ITB appreciation thread

[dannygti]

Cumon then guys post up some bids of throttle bodies at their best :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo-TVyMdEgo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[MR_N]

Why has this thread not been done before?

Sonny's 'old' engine. 156 bhp 8v FTW

http://youtu.be/l5MlVvlE9AE

http://youtu.be/ARpIUuRo5XI


Mk2 Escorts with Millington Engine's
http://youtu.be/5BBdv7QL7YY

Clio 182
http://youtu.be/P7WTDFS4POA

350Z
http://youtu.be/9X0WMeaZufo

Clio 172
http://youtu.be/TOqF026xXqI

Integra
http://youtu.be/Ol5fL1ZPh_k
http://youtu.be/0Ehq4Bt9aXo

196 Bhp 106
http://youtu.be/OhnzhYBnW_s

106 Rallye
http://youtu.be/v9T9gVbhapU

In memory of Toad
http://youtu.be/TKGKETVpklk
http://youtu.be/YABDwATNq0A


Bic's 106 with sequential box
http://youtu.be/dXkrvuRer1s


Clio 172
http://youtu.be/GlIFwNcc7Rw

[MR_N]

We need pics too ;)

[W103_A5H]

See this picture on Facebook, possibly the most beautiful engine I have ever seen!

http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy344/custom_madness/beautifulengine.jpg

[woodysVTR]

Me!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pa-b-9Pnz8

[qrty]

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/drqrty/9e7112f0.jpg

Warbbbb! :homme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Ut3B6cmig

[Bobo0907]

Them N/A yb's are epic! Imo I prefer them to the turbo yb's

[Dom]

See this picture on Facebook, possibly the most beautiful engine I have ever seen!

http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy344/custom_madness/beautifulengine.jpg

Oi, no posting porn on this site.

That's stupidly sexy.

[Liam_]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhPleblqqw8&t=3m53s

[Heftydanielson]

This sexy NSX engine. :D

http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/869/ITB_interesting2.jpg
http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/869/ITB_interesting1.jpg

[joe333]

What thats is crazyyy!

[W103_A5H]

Oi, no posting porn on this site.

That's stupidly sexy.

Please don't report my post :oops:

I want to see what the rest of the car looks like if that is waht the engine looks like!

[Penn]

What happened to Toad? His 106 was fucking unreal.

[Yates]

Went to Dubai split the one oh six

[titchster]

I want to see what the rest of the car looks like if that is waht the engine looks like!

Be careful what you wish for.

http://www.crazuknights.com/2008/10/golden-trumpets.html

Build:
http://ht-archive.org/showthread.php?t=1937091


Much love.

[Beaniemoo]

I may as well get in on this thread too.
Here are 3 of ours!

My Rallye in its first incarnation

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/moo0484/24eb94c4.jpg

My brothers Clio

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/moo0484/ec363fa5.jpg

Any my old Saxo

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/moo0484/Moos%20AWESOME%20saxo/IMG_0540.jpg

[JamesR]

This sexy NSX engine. :D

http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/869/ITB_interesting1.jpg

Is that Nitrous straight into open ITB trumpet :fcuk::fcuk::fcuk::fcuk:

[AlexB]

Is that Nitrous straight into open ITB trumpet :fcuk::fcuk::fcuk::fcuk:

no there the fuel injectors i believe

[Beaniemoo]

They are stand off fuel injectors

[AlexB]

What happened to Toad? His 106 was fucking unreal.

engine ended up in my car after a management and bodies setup change

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx238/penis4000/th_video-2011-03-26-11-18-45.jpg (http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx238/penis4000/?action=view&current=video-2011-03-26-11-18-45.mp4)

i do chavvy things like this with it

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c190/lostsoullea/the%20nana/th_1c3d3902.jpg (http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c190/lostsoullea/the%20nana/?action=view&current=1c3d3902.mp4)

and i did do this

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx238/penis4000/th_IMG_0027.jpg (http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx238/penis4000/?action=view&current=IMG_0027.mp4)

lovely noises

[Ryan]

Is that Nitrous straight into open ITB trumpet :fcuk::fcuk::fcuk::fcuk:

Clearly injectors not nos.

[JamesR]

They are stand off fuel injectors

Cool, what's the advantage of these? Suppose you could attach nitrous injectors to the same rail if that's the case?

[Jay_]

that a straight shot of NoS!

too much F&F?

[Ryan]

Cool, what's the advantage of these? Suppose you could attach nitrous injectors to the same rail if that's the case?

Nos and fuel in the same rail...

No.

[W103_A5H]

Be careful what you wish for.

http://www.crazuknights.com/2008/10/golden-trumpets.html

Build:
http://ht-archive.org/showthread.php?t=1937091


Much love.

Or in this case be thankful for what you wish for :D I think I love you now :oops: Ty!

[Frankay]

Amazing DC5

[Tom5190]

Meh some work stuff:

302 N/A 205
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MdwWSJHgU

206 N/A 106
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ouZTC6tL2E

284 N/A 205
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=licn3cuT9mc

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/TJW5190/Cars%202/123.jpg

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/TJW5190/Cars%202/124.jpg

[Saxovch22]

http://image.modified.com/f/17357434/0611sscp_opera_performance_honda_s2000_f20c_indivi dual_throttle_bodies_z.jpg

http://image.automotive.com/f/features/8438812+pheader/0801_impp_01_z+individual_throttle_bodies+itb_setu p.jpg

http://motormavens.com/emAlbum/albums/Antonio%20Alvendia/Events/Nisei%20Showoff%202009/IMG_7975_ITB_toda_honda_copy.jpg

[JamesR]

Nos and fuel in the same rail...

No.

But when you have nitrous is there not a solenoid that provides fuel and one the nitrous? So why wouldn't that work :wacko:

[Ryan]

spray patterns + the risk of nos being kept in the fuel rail when you dont want it there

[Carl-h]

An I missing something massive or are none of these bodies running filters? Can't be a good thing surely?

[titchster]

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/AntonioAlvendia/Feature%20Cars/PeterBrusa%20PitCrew%20Miata/MG_4017%20copy.jpg
http://www.thebluepotato.net/engine/fingerz/nofilters2.JPG
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh2010/April2010/CarFeatures/scotts_na6/IMG_0213.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvd63Nt1jg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsI4K_0NT_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc9xfuJeK9I

[jpsaxo]

DannyGti driving my car & old engine through the tunnels on the way to the ring in 2008!

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/th_NurburgringTBtunnelmadness.jpg (http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/?action=view&current=NurburgringTBtunnelmadness.mp4)

[Dave_P]

Check out my you tube vids for 9000rpm of ITB excellence. :y:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Dave106Rallye

[vtectransplant]

Check out my you tube vids for 9000rpm of ITB excellence. :y:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Dave106Rallye

Watched it a couple of times already but still an awesome watch! :y:

[dannygti]

Haha Josh good old times :)
How times have changed ;)

[yr51ocw]

Cool, what's the advantage of these?

Increased fuel atomisation, more complete mixture homo-geniality, and lower charge temperatures all leading to increased performance and emissions (if the spray and penetration aim is correct). The downside being transient response is affected.

It is usual to run two sets of injectors, one close to the valve and on further up the inlet tract, the further one away being used at high load/speed condition only and the one near the valve being used at low speed/load conditions to ensure good response and low wall wetting at low air mass flow.

[Heftydanielson]

http://images.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0611_13_z+1985_toyota_corolla_gts+engine_view. jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Dino%20Dalle%20Carbonare/20V-AE86/20V-AE86-07.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Dino%20Dalle%20Carbonare/20V-AE86/20V-AE86-08.jpg
http://image.hondatuningmagazine.com/f/9415547/htup_0804_09_z+the_performance_racing_industry_pri _show+kinsler_injection_itb_kit_for_honda_k_series _f_series_motors_and_others.jpg
http://vip.karelia.ru/files/120_14_717.jpg

[MiniGibbo]

An I missing something massive or are none of these bodies running filters? Can't be a good thing surely?

No it's not, they're sucking in no end of sand and grit amongst anything and everything else..

Don't see it in other car scenes as much as most people have comman sence and run air boxes..

[Carl-h]

No it's not, they're sucking in no end of sand and grit amongst anything and everything else..

Don't see it in other car scenes as much as most people have comman sence and run air boxes..

So they actually run them just as they are in the photos? Fuck that! One above has filters on it. Must be mad to spend all that money and risk it like that :/

[MiniGibbo]

You can buy socks which some people claim to use between shows etc etc..

I wouldn't do it personally.

[Ryan]

So they actually run them just as they are in the photos? Fuck that! One above has filters on it. Must be mad to spend all that money and risk it like that :/

Socks sap power, saxo engine bays having decent inlet length and good filtration isnt that easy.

Many engines have run a long time perfectly fine with open trumpets.

[Carl-h]

How much power do the socks sap? Say it was 5hp I'd happily loose that to save my engine and just take em off for the track or something when you want the power? Has anyone read many stories of engine failures due to not running filters?

[titchster]

S'all good taking them off for track, but what if you stick it in the gravel? That's gonna do more harm than any tiny bits of grit that might work their way into the trumpets on the road (not saying that won't do any damage, but, ya get what I mean...)

[Ryan]

How much power do the socks sap? Say it was 5hp I'd happily loose that to save my engine and just take em off for the track or something when you want the power? Has anyone read many stories of engine failures due to not running filters?

As I said many engines have run with no filtration for years with no issues.

My engine fitting socks the thing didn't even want to idle anymore. They were soon sold on.

[MiniGibbo]

Socks also quiten the intake noise.

I'd get a proper air box if it was my engine Ryan given the time and effort gone into your engine.

[Carl-h]

I had a little look into it last night and it seems the best kind of filter is one that fits across all the bodies. That way there's lots of surface area so doesn't loose as much power but they do look shit in comparison lol. I wouldn't dream of even starting my car without a filter but maybe I'm just paranoid lol.

[jage]

ATpower i think make one with ITg or its just ITG that a lot of people use

[MiniGibbo]

ATpower i think make one with ITg or its just ITG that a lot of people use

Yeah saxomuffin has the set up on his vtr and I think it's great kit.

[woodysVTR]

I have socks on most of the time, it does lower noise, but it's still ludicrously loud.

I have them off on dry, sunny days.

[Ryan]

Socks also quiten the intake noise.

I'd get a proper air box if it was my engine Ryan given the time and effort gone into your engine.

I have a carbon air box here, which I'm trying to modify to reduce the Db for drive by on some tracks. However as said the saxo engine bay and my long inlet tract means its not a simple job.

[MiniGibbo]

Cut the scuttle out dude :homme:

[Ryan]

Cut the scuttle out dude :homme:

Can't have a long inlet tract with the scuttle there anyway ;)

[MR_N]

I know sonny used to run an itg fliter on his 8v with sandys bodies and it was spaced for zero power loss. Dont ask my how though.

[jpsaxo]

Can't have a long inlet tract with the scuttle there anyway ;)

You can... JUST!

[Ryan]

You can... JUST!

If you are not running Dth it's alot easier to change the runner angle to aid things. Thankfully I picked up the air box which was meant to work ok with my set up.

Could be worse though I could have AT powers and run them right at the brake bar lol..

[AlexB]

the problem i have with socks is this

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx238/penis4000/DSC03700.jpg

3 of my 4 looked like that
they were zip tied on to stop them movint with a nice air gap as they need
the suction and fact they restrict air meant they got sucked down the trumpet ant the butterlfy ripped them open

i run unflitered as i cant fit anything else in with how mine aim
tempted to try and get a higher aimed manifold made to allow me to get an airbox on there

[Dave_P]

You can... JUST!

Thats depends on how long you want/need, my trumpets go through my bulkhead. :A:

Old pics but you get the jist...

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m433/16v_rallye/05072008001.jpg

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m433/16v_rallye/05072008.jpg

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m433/16v_rallye/DSC00017.jpg

They're even longer now. :D

[blackie_2k5]

As I said many engines have run with no filtration for years with no issues.

My engine fitting socks the thing didn't even want to idle anymore. They were soon sold on.

my turbo doesnt run a filter..just runs a direct cold air feed with some fine..strong steel mesh(to stop stones and stuff)..direct from the head light to the turbo :homme:

done 5k so far fine

call me daft but its my car..and having ran with filter and without..i think id choose without tbh....the difference is unbelieveable


EDIT- sure i read somewhere by sandy that had he'd never had an engine die from eating a stone or grit with no filtration..but had seen several suffer from ingesting socks or pieces of filter :p

dont quote me on that though as it may not have been him(pretty sure it was though)

[stupotvtr]

Thats depends on how long you want/need, my trumpets go through my bulkhead. :A:

Old pics but you get the jist...

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m433/16v_rallye/05072008001.jpg

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m433/16v_rallye/05072008.jpg

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m433/16v_rallye/DSC00017.jpg

They're even longer now. :D

Insane set up mate!

[Sandy309]

EDIT- sure i read somewhere by sandy that had he'd never had an engine die from eating a stone or grit with no filtration..but had seen several suffer from ingesting socks or pieces of filter :p

dont quote me on that though as it may not have been him(pretty sure it was though)

Correct, ingesting bits of the filter or in the case of the socks, bore washing due to the massive air restriction single trumpet socks create, they can often spoil the fuelling by 20%. I'm not saying you shouldn't run filters... you should... but really it ought to be a proper bar type filter (ie ITG JC40 as we use on the GSXR kits when requested) or ideally a K&N panel like Dave has above, which really means an airbox and airboxes need to be designed very carefully or they rob the engine of the benefits of pulse tuning, if it's evident.
I'm planning an airbox design, but until i've tested it to the point where it loses no power over open induction, I won't be using it.

[jpsaxo]

If you are not running Dth it's alot easier to change the runner angle to aid things. Thankfully I picked up the air box which was meant to work ok with my set up.

Could be worse though I could have AT powers and run them right at the brake bar lol..

Lol. The shortest ones that sandy runs on his race engine (that dont loose power or torque compared to longer ones) will only just fit in without modifying the scuttle, however there's not really any space left for a filter hence why I've had my scuttle moved back slightly to make room :)

[MR_N]

Woo i can post in here now:
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee173/thwaites04/2ea670a8.jpg

[MR_N]

Look what im bumping up!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/9428384422_55b2ea7825_b.jpg

[jpsaxo]

8v - Meh! :P

[AlexB]

Wheres that itb tunnel video in germany gone.... haha :P

[MR_N]

Load that shit up

[AlexB]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4LEZIrJunQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

:D
BwaaaaaaaaaaarrrpapapBANG

[jeffchiz]

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo16/jeffchiz/fs.jpg
first day i had mine running un mapped :)
Saxo VTS + Jenvey's - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61MD5WI5M7M)

[Bobo0907]

In process... Sam, what length are your trumpets? I think mine may be a bit long!

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy112/Bob0907/S2%20Rallye/IMG_1310.jpg (http://s783.photobucket.com/user/Bob0907/media/S2%20Rallye/IMG_1310.jpg.html)

[jpsaxo]

Nice TB's :D

Oh go on then ;)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/EB50B35E-E47C-4D8D-A6FC-D0B097CCB5D2-11556-000008DD26EA07AF.jpg