RenaultSport Meganes

[Jamie]

What's the catch? I mean why are they sooo cheap if they're meant to be so good?

I've been looking and the adverts aren't even for shitters either HPI clear low ish milleage... for under 5k!


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[Ryan]

Same as alot of cars the arse falls out of the market.

Heck even mini cooper S can be had for naff all now compared to what you were looking at even 2 years ago.

[ed-bradley]

Depreciation?

RS's tend to depreciate alot,compared to others.
They're just cheap and cheerful, fast hatches. Same with the Clio.

Never really heard any bad stories about them tbh.

[Jamie]

Same as alot of cars the arse falls out of the market.

Heck even mini cooper S can be had for naff all now compared to what you were looking at even 2 years ago.

True, but the Cooper S's are 2002 plates ect with high milleage, these are 04+ with 40-60k lol

I was just wondering if they had issues or anything really, I could sell my 206 and buy one, and I'm guessing they would be a better all rounder and tenability is better!

Depreciation?

RS's tend to depreciate alot,compared to others.
They're just cheap and cheerful, fast hatches. Same with the Clio.

Never really heard any bad stories about them tbh.

Yeah I mean I was just wondering as above, if they have any problems because thats alot of car for the money! bet they weren't cheap new!

[Tony]

I've often thought the same. I guess big repair bills (turbo etc) from ragged examples put people off. Not sure what tax bracket they're in?

Was the Megane the model that you had to remove the inner part of the arch/wing to change the headlight bulb? That was £160-200 iirc from Watchdog lol.

[manta]

I've often thought the same. I guess big repair bills (turbo etc) from ragged examples put people off. Not sure what tax bracket they're in?

Was the Megane the model that you had to remove the inner part of the arch/wing to change the headlight bulb? That was £160-200 iirc from Watchdog lol.

they are easy imo.

halfords ftw

[JackCopley]

I've always loved these, interesting as i've never thought to look at the price of one thought they would be way too expensive

[vtectransplant]

Most people nowadays want cheap tax, good fuel and cheap insurance. the market isnt as big as it was so the cars that we as petrol heads want, are undesirable for most.

Look at Clios for example. It is more expensive for a 1.5dci 04 plate than a 17/82

[MiniGibbo]

No one wants a mrs with a fat arse so why would you want a car with a fat arse...

[JoshB]

The pre-2005 models were a bit shit apparently. Had a lot of problems and handling's dodgy. After 2005 they all got the cup chassis.

Have a read through Parkers review, I'm sure it mentions it in there.

[leeroybrown]

You eitther need a cup pack'd 225 or a trophy.

Don't go for the above model, they were a weak hot hatch.

Loads of things changed, brake servo, suspension and steering.

Can easily pick a cup or even a trophy up now for 5k Jamie pal.

[blackie_2k5]

And for the most part they at riddled with problems :p

Widow regulators, steering racks, a piece of plastic on the steering which brakes, some of the Ecu's fry on the older ones etc

Renaults are known for many electrical issues in a lot of their cars

[JackCopley]

No one wants a mrs with a fat arse so why would you want a car with a fat arse...

I wouldnt turn J-Lo down ;) haha

[leeroybrown]

And for the most part they at riddled with problems :p

Widow regulators, steering racks, a piece of plastic on the steering which brakes, some of the Ecu's fry on the older ones etc

Renaults are known for many electrical issues in a lot of their cars

Window regs go on 08 cars, not just the older models.

Plastic was changed to metal on the trophy/cup.

Never once seen a ecu fry on a older model and I owned one

It's normally the hubs, not the racks

[devilsadvocate]

Ugly as fuck imo but each to their own.

[blackie_2k5]

My mate dom, and one his mates dumped an ecu, richies megane had three new racks

It does happen

[leeroybrown]

Does, doesn't mean its a common problem.

Richie's isnt a sport

[blackie_2k5]

I wouldn't have a new Renault tbh

Kev an John at work both have/had a scenic on 04 and 55 plates

John got rid of his after handbrake, abs sensors, tyre pressure sensors fucked

Kevs wipers have fucked, window reg, handbrake, speedo... He's trying to sell his

[leeroybrown]

Window reg was my only issue and a CV clip

Might I add R26 was voted one of the best all time hot hatches, won EVO and Autocar best hot hatch also.

[Gandi699]

Inferno is a nice colour on those but I'd get an F1, especially in that purpley colour

[baker556]

Been wanting one of these for a while, at first you do think there ugly then you really start to like them. Everyone underestimates them because of that reason, there not only quick and handle well but alot come with many extras. Cruise control, auto wipers, auto lights, xenons, climate control, recaros Brembos, diff etc. There also much bigger than a normal hatch which makes it look abit more grown up.

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Best of all 0-60mph 6.1secs with a top speed of 141mph 225bhp can easily be remapped to 270bhp and then onto 300bhp. With great handling its a proper drivers car!

[baker556]

Someone is selling one on here with only 23k on the clock !

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5917047#post5917047

[jimmyboy]

Buy my v6 instead :)

[leeroybrown]

Blue one is 225 F1....no diff

[rey]

I would never have one for the same reason I wouldn't have a Clio, Renault are far too unreliable.

I wouldn't trust the electrics not to shit themselves at every opportunity like renaults seem to do regularly.

[BertieG]

i cant believe citroen owners are slagging off renault for their reliability

[baker556]

I would never have one for the same reason I wouldn't have a Clio, Renault are far too unreliable.

I wouldn't trust the electrics not to shit themselves at every opportunity like renaults seem to do regularly.

Mostly the older ones, every car has their faults. Just for the driving experience i would own one.

[Gandi699]

i cant believe citroen owners are slagging off renault for their reliability

exactly!

[rey]

I don't own a Citroen, they're equally as dodgy when it comes to electrics.

Wouldn't touch either anymore.

[leeroybrown]

i cant believe citroen owners are slagging off renault for their reliability

Exactly

I have owned 4 RS models and not once had any electrical issue, except 1 window reg, which Reno paid 75% of the bill.

[mtpagey]

I don't own a Citroen, they're equally as dodgy when it comes to electrics.

Wouldn't touch either anymore.

If you dont buy a shed there's a good chance it wont be unreliable. Any car can have its own issues depending on how its driven/serviced/cared for/looked after or just pure damn luck.

Wouldn't be the first time ive seen an '11 plate beemer or merc for example with its bonnet up and hazards on at the side of the road

[Jamie]

So there is an underlying reason they're soo cheap, the older ones like to throw paddy's and are shite without cup suspension ect?

That kinda makes me think they're probably quite unreliable because my friend had one I used to travel to work in every day and that was an auto and was riddled with problems, I was hoping the 225's were different!

Hmm I wouldn't want to spend more than 5k on one or I'd go back to an ST (can have my old one back off me ma') or buy something else like a Mini/ Z4 or 5 series! Random selection I know! lol.

I'll have a think, It's not for now but I was weighing up my options before my 180 goes to high mileage it's just at 42k.

[leeroybrown]

Jamie - Ran mine for 14 months, never let me down once pal.

[baker556]

Srs Jamie i doubt you will get a cooper s, Z4 or 5 series 05-06 plate with less than 40k miles for less than 5k. Might aswel buy the Ford back.

There cheap because they do not hold their value as best as there german rivals, bmws, minis etc. High petroleum premium and tax do not do it any favours along with servicing which is not cheap on sports models. Plus alot of people think there ugly however they are a drivers car.

Thought about a clio sport 197/200 they look pretty swish.

[Jamie]

Jamie - Ran mine for 14 months, never let me down once pal.

Cool, I just really don't want to end up with something that's going to end up costing me a bomb to maintain and with my track record on luck (constant barrage of shit luck not just with cars) I'm not sure if it's worth taking the chance,

I'm taking it there is an owners club? any linkies for the best one, might do some research :)

I really like the idea of these and I thought they all handled well and were pretty much problem free as I've never heard any of the stuff in this thread before,

[Jamie]

Srs Jamie i doubt you will get a cooper s, Z4 or 5 series 05-06 plate with less than 40k miles for less than 5k. Might aswel buy the Ford back.

There cheap because they do not hold their value as best as there german rivals, bmws, minis etc. High petroleum premium and tax do not do it any favours along with servicing which is not cheap on sports models. Plus alot of people think there ugly however they are a drivers car.

Thought about a clio sport 197/200 they look pretty swish.

Aye but I'd up my price for them because I see them as worth it being BMW's ect lol

Ford would cost me about 7k off me ma' I reckon since I have her a Monumental discount when I sold it her lol!

[baker556]

Best forum is meganesport.net iirc.

[Jamie]

Best forum is meganesport.net iirc.

I'll take a browse! danke'

[rey]

If you dont buy a shed there's a good chance it wont be unreliable. Any car can have its own issues depending on how its driven/serviced/cared for/looked after or just pure damn luck.

Wouldn't be the first time ive seen an '11 plate beemer or merc for example with its bonnet up and hazards on at the side of the road

You can never guarantee your not going to buy a shitter though.

You can look at everything, it's all perfect, give it a month and its fucked.

It happens.

[leeroybrown]

Cool, I just really don't want to end up with something that's going to end up costing me a bomb to maintain and with my track record on luck (constant barrage of shit luck not just with cars) I'm not sure if it's worth taking the chance,

I'm taking it there is an owners club? any linkies for the best one, might do some research :)

I really like the idea of these and I thought they all handled well and were pretty much problem free as I've never heard any of the stuff in this thread before,

Listen to the bloke who's owned and worked on one pal, not the haters.

If you need any info let me know, I lost count how much megane bollocks I actually know lol

[baker556]

You can never guarantee your not going to buy a shitter though.

You can look at everything, it's all perfect, give it a month and its fucked.

It happens.

This, its down to pure luck unless you know the owner how its been treated etc.

In your case matt i don't blame you for buying the ctr off your bro you know history etc this would be my way if it could be done.

[VTR-Chris]

back end of these are fuckin gash

[Jamie]

Listen to the bloke who's owned and worked on one pal, not the haters.

If you need any info let me know, I lost count how much megane bollocks I actually know lol

Thanks Lee, I'm going to have a nose on the forum, I'll be in touch if I decide it's worthwhile :)

[leeroybrown]

No bother! IF you go for a non cup megane, I'll hunt you down and shoot you

:-)

[rey]

This, its down to pure luck unless you know the owner how its been treated etc.

In your case matt i don't blame you for buying the ctr off your bro you know history etc this would be my way if it could be done.

Exactly, I got lucky with my VTR, it was mint.

My VTS looked mint, drove fine on the test drive, was an utter nail.

[blackie_2k5]

Jamie - Ran mine for 14 months, never let me down once pal.

Not exactly true now is it? You've text me several times from the stealers waiting room

Wasn't the reason you sold it because you spent over 2k in 14 months fixing/maintaining it????

Yours was a low miler from a good background

And yours hadn't even done 70k and the seats were collapsing!?

[Jamie]

No bother! IF you go for a non cup megane, I'll hunt you down and shoot you

:-)

Lol are they that bad?

Not exactly true now is it? You've text me several times from the stealers waiting room

Wasn't the reason you sold it because you spent over 2k in 14 months fixing/maintaining it????

Yours was a low miler from a good background

And yours hadn't even done 70k and the seats were collapsing!?

2k in 14 months? :panic:

Confused.com

So you did have problems?

Probably end up with my old ST back @ this rate & bolt all my old mods back on which I still have lol! 300 BHP yo!

[rey]

Just go with your old ST Jamie.

It was mint, and will be far more reliable than the RenSport

[Gandi699]

The cupped R26 will show it a clean pair of heels in the bends though

[blackie_2k5]

Your but your not gonna get much of an r26 for 5k :p

[leeroybrown]

Not exactly true now is it? You've text me several times from the stealers waiting room

Wasn't the reason you sold it because you spent over 2k in 14 months fixing/maintaining it????

Yours was a low miler from a good background

And yours hadn't even done 70k and the seats were collapsing!?


Once it was in the stealers and that was for CV clip and then again for brake line recall

The rest was wear and tear, brakes etc have to be replaced.

It started every time, never let me down once and it still runs today, cant really say that about your saxo now can you.

Most of the RS seats are shit, they dont have enough padding in, wasn't a major issue for me

Jamie - Bits are not that cheap, but you forget all that when you drive one

[Jamie]

The cupped R26 will show it a clean pair of heels in the bends though

I had a play with a yellow one before through some really nice driving roads there wasn't hardly anything between us, I was following which is easier but there wasn't as much in it vs a stock ST as I would have thought going by what people say!

Or maybe I'm just the ultimate driver vs a shit Megane driver lol, anywho my ST was 300 bhp in the end so it would take a modded Megane to show that up and on the straights the ST was immense!


Just go with your old ST Jamie.

It was mint, and will be far more reliable than the RenSport

Thanks mate, probably will end up that way tbh after reading some of the stuff in this thread, I don't want to take the risk of spending money on a car that has quite a few common problems by the looks of it.

I know all it's history from day one too.


Your but your not gonna get much of an r26 for 5k :p

I defo won't get the ST for near that but I'd sooner pay the extra 2k on my old ST than on a Megane, if you could buy a decent Megane for 5k I'd buy one but this threads kinda put me off,

Not many people are really defending them like I expected tbh

Once it was in the stealers and that was for CV clip and then again for brake line recall

The rest was wear and tear, brakes etc have to be replaced.

It started every time, never let me down once and it still runs today, cant really say that about your saxo now can you.

Most of the RS seats are shit, they dont have enough padding in, wasn't a major issue for me

Jamie - Bits are not that cheap, but you forget all that when you drive one

I'll defo test drive one before I go back to the ST if I can get one for around the 5k mark to see if that can win me over because if I can avoid paying the 7k for my old car back for something as good (if they aren't as problematic as thread suggests, it's obviously a non brainer)

I have some thinking to do it would seem lol

[Gabbastard]

Brother had one for a few years, only things he had wrong with it were: window regulators chucked it once; and the tyre pressure sensor on the front left went twice for some reason. Apart from that it was fine.

[baker556]

Jamie you couldn't get away from a van in your 206 gti your no ultimate driver :zainy:

Srs you owned the st for long time your mum has it, its given you no issues so just buy it back.

[daz_zz_er]

Because Renault Meganes are shit, mechanical wise

[baker556]

Because Renault Meganes are shit, mechanical wise

Not sure if srs.

Think there renowned for their mechanical engineering and development with FWD drive cars, quickest hatch round the nurburgring.

I'm sure your compact is quicker :S

[blackie_2k5]

Lol at being reliable lee

In one year my car dropped a valve and needed an axle replacing, total about £400 to fix


In 14 months your car needed
Cambelt
Cv clip
Brake line recall
Window regulator fucked
Electric mirrors fucked
Seat collapsed
Needed two tyres at a cost of near £300 iirc
Needed rears discs that cost £350... Then had to be fitted
A service at fuck knows what price
It wanted front discs and pads when you sold it.. I'd be frightened to ask how much

And that just what u can remember you twisting about!!

If you add everything ever bought for the Saxo including buying it, it wouldn't come to what you paid for the megane, and it's had:

New drop links x2 pairs
New suspension
New lower arms
New axle
New rebuilt engine
Turbo conversion
New predator
New rear lights
Second hand morrettes
New brake lines
New front grill
Alloys I bought new for old Saxo
Brembo calipers
New pads all round
New discs all round
New head unit
Suspension was rebuilt when fitted so new strut tops etc

Just off the top of my head

That car would want for nothing for a long time, your new brake discs pads and fitting for the rear would cost more then my Saxo needed to stay on the road... And more then itsneeded in maintenance and repairs for the last year

I know where my money would rather be tbh

I could blow that Saxo up twice a year and it would still cost you
More to keep the megane if it just needed a service

[leeroybrown]

Lol at being reliable lee

In one year my car dropped a valve and needed an axle replacing, total about £400 to fix


In 14 months your car needed
Cambelt
Cv clip
Brake line recall
Window regulator fucked
Electric mirrors fucked
Seat collapsed
Needed two tyres at a cost of near £300 iirc
Needed rears discs that cost £350... Then had to be fitted
A service at fuck knows what price
It wanted front discs and pads when you sold it.. I'd be frightened to ask how much

And that just what u can remember you twisting about!!

If you add everything ever bought for the Saxo including buying it, it wouldn't come to what you paid for the megane, and it's had:

New drop links x2 pairs
New suspension
New lower arms
New axle
New rebuilt engine
Turbo conversion
New predator
New rear lights
Second hand morrettes
New brake lines
New front grill
Alloys I bought new for old Saxo
Brembo calipers
New pads all round
New discs all round
New head unit
Suspension was rebuilt when fitted so new strut tops etc

Just off the top of my head

That car would want for nothing for a long time, your new brake discs pads and fitting for the rear would cost more then my Saxo needed to stay on the road... And more then itsneeded in maintenance and repairs for the last year

I know where my money would rather be tbh

I could blow that Saxo up twice a year and it would still cost you
More to keep the megane if it just needed a service

To correct your mistakes again

The car was cheap and backed up with a load of history, both front and rear brakes were replaced with the best units there was , along with 4 brand new tyres, no cheap shit and all brand new parts.

Difference is Andrew it was my money and I'll choose how I spend it. I do things right and proper, it's the best bits for me or nowt!

Problem with you is that because something isn't cheap it's classed as shit and even though you say you can get it cheaper, you can't. And might I add you want a megane if am not mistaken!

Car never ever let me down, never came out with oil pissing out from the wheels, didn't struggle to sit in traffic for more then 2 mins!

When you move up into the world of a decent, clean nice car you'll spend the extra making sure it had the best of the best!

[Jazz]

Probably end up with my old ST back @ this rate & bolt all my old mods back on which I still have lol! 300 BHP yo!

Yes, do that Jamie!

Your old ST is much better, unless you go for a R26 etc. These Megs are apparantly even more fragile than the clios lol.

[blackie_2k5]

Leeroy your so far up your own arse it's unreal you know

Sorry pal but my car has had brand new next to everything!!

Never once has it struggled to sit in traffic

And a cv boot popping off was the cause of the grease at the wheels

Seem to remember both the megane and clio have lost a cv clip for the boot!!

I never said it wasn't your money, but don't go telling ppl that renaults are the best thing since sliced bread, they handle well and that's about as far as it goes, utter shit

They're no better built then any other, the parts are expensive and the electrics are abismal

You spend your money where ever you want, as I will, but dont twist at me about my car being this and your car being that

My car has never let me down yet, few
Minor probs none of which we're expensive, none of which I've ever not been able to start or drive the car, and it's never had to go to a garage for repair!!

As for moving up, I buy cars I want because I want them... With my own money, not borrowed money, not to go "look at me"

As I'm not an asw

[Jazz]

Leeroy you've been told!!! :P

lol

[leeroybrown]

Leeroy your so far up your own arse it's unreal you know

Sorry pal but my car has had brand new next to everything!!

Never once has it struggled to sit in traffic

And a cv boot popping off was the cause of the grease at the wheels

Seem to remember both the megane and clio have lost a cv clip for the boot!!

I never said it wasn't your money, but don't go telling ppl that renaults are the best thing since sliced bread, they handle well and that's about as far as it goes, utter shit

They're no better built then any other, the parts are expensive and the electrics are abismal

You spend your money where ever you want, as I will, but dont twist at me about my car being this and your car being that

My car has never let me down yet, few
Minor probs none of which we're expensive, none of which I've ever not been able to start or drive the car, and it's never had to go to a garage for repair!!

Your are the BIGGEST fucking liar I know. You complained all the time cos it was getting to hot sititng in traffic.

Don't tarnish all RS's with dodgy electric's because they aint, megane may have 1 or 2 issue's, but its NO different to any other car with issues.

When you own something more then a Saxo then your qualified to have an opinion, but until then there is only 2 opinions - mine and the wrong one!

See you in the gym car park 7.30, obviously you'll be in the turbo its so realiable:homme:

[leeroybrown]

Leeroy you've been told!!! :P

lol

I won't listen, hardly means out to me.

[blackie_2k5]

Turbo over heated in traffic when I first turbo'd it, as at that point it never had a filter so it sucked hot air of the manifold, fitted filter and cold air feed, job done

As for your blinkered bollox as per...

Yawn..

Edit- never once complained about it.. I think the liar is a pot calling a kettle black, never mind.. I've said my piece and now I'm done :y:

[leeroybrown]

Still a liar which ever way you put it!

Hurry up as well!

[blackie_2k5]

There's only one liar in this thread pal, and it ain't me

14 months with no problems :fcuk:

Bye hinny xxx

[iVTR]

Love the new 2012 ones, white with black wheels trim please! :)

[Chr15]

leeroy in a sax-p argument? never seen that before!

[titchster]

Mate had a Cup, AFAIK, never had any huge issues with it, a few dodgy wiring issues, airbag light would flash every now and again, and the dash lights were temperamental, but nothing that was of actual concern. Was mapped/FMIC/lowering springs etc, and got given full death regularly, covered countless 1/4 mile runs, did track days etc.


He loved it that much over the last 3/4 years he's had it, he's just moved onto an R26.

[Jamie]

Yes, do that Jamie!

Your old ST is much better, unless you go for a R26 etc. These Megs are apparantly even more fragile than the clios lol.

Yeah this threads certainly confused me lol

Plus the handling on the ST isn't that bad I have had many motoring memories in that car at speeds on country roads I've never felt the confidence in any other.

Plan plan plan!

Mothers going to love me, she wants the new Impreza STI saloon anyways so could work out!

[adamm]

Lol at the haters on the Megane. There top of there class!

Reliability wise is touch and go really and you cant say all meganes are crap because one had a few issues, my parents just spent 2k fixing a fault on there BMW and that's a 57 plate diesel!! Doesn't mean to say there all crap though does it?

[Jazz]

Reliability wise is touch and go really and you cant say all meganes are crap because one had a few issues, my parents just spent 2k fixing a fault on there BMW and that's a 57 plate diesel!! Doesn't mean to say there all crap though does it?

Had a look at the customer satifaction surverys lately? Not good news for Renault..

http://www.lovepetrol.com/images/1/jdpower.jpg

Renault Megane 87 out of 104, and Renault as a whole came 22 out of 27 manufacturers.

Thats only 2010, go back a decade and by and large the results are pretty much the same- shite.

[blackie_2k5]

The cleaner at work has been raving about her laguna this morning again as well :D

04 plate and thats does what it wants aswel

She's having trouble with the ESP now, light won't go off,

Shes had lots of trouble the ABS as well, she's only had the car 8 months, trying to sue the garage that sold her it, they've had it more then she has since purchase

EDIT- tbf my old meg coupe had no issues in the 18 months/20k I had it, bought 1 owner from 55k, sold on 75k, everything worked, even air con was mint

Only thing I had bother with was engine mounts and exhaust rubbers

[adamm]

And whats your point? there's plenty out there that are going solid.

Maybe not the best reliability by modern standards but still look at the price to performance of them.

Buy a well maintained one and it should all be sweet. I wouldn't let reliability put me off too much I mean come on this is a saxo forum after all lol!

[Ashleyp]

I know several people that have owned RS' over the past 2 years or more, they've all sold up, or want to sell... 'nuff said.

I like them though, never driven one and don't think i ever will, things i'd rather have for the dollars - but if i was in the market for a FWD hot hatch in that price range, it'd be the R26 and ST that get my attention.

[stupotvtr]

Loved my 182 but always had some sort of niggling problem, as soon as you fixed one another popped up but nothing major. Stupid stuff like abs, tcs lights came on abs and tcs still worked after a few days the lights just went out problem solved. Temprimental pre tensioner clip put the air bag lights on but went off again after a while, same with fuel light. Was a great car to drive though!