Hows this for a 1/4 mile in a VTR?

[shaggers_saxvtr]

16.8 seconds
82.25mph top speed...
??
Was at USC at Santa Pod!

[Ry_B]

What mods?

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Pipercross open induction kit, Janspeed backbox, De-cat, short ratio gearbox (either VTS or 1.1 box), 15" alloys, lowered 45mm on the front and 35 on the back...

[Yates]

im sure Alex (cammedvtr) is faster than that

[shaggers_saxvtr]

ok, but mine is relatively standard though and has a restrictive centre section with is much smaller than the VTR one too.

Also hes called cammed VTR - has he got cams then, manifold...etc??! As mine like i said is relatively standard...

[Ry_B]

The 1.1 gearbox has shorter ratios than the VTR? But it's the same as the VTS gearbox? :S

[Yates]

ah thought you were saying you seen a car do that at santa pod and you thought it was fast, sorry!

decent time, did you stall like angelvtr did at fcs?!

[shaggers_saxvtr]

The 1.1 gearbox has shorter ratios than the VTR? But it's the same as the VTS gearbox? :S

Dont think VTS and 1.1 boxes can be the same as my car will rev limit if I go over 125 as the ratios are so short!

[shaggers_saxvtr]

ah thought you were saying you seen a car do that at santa pod and you thought it was fast, sorry!

decent time, did you stall like angelvtr did at fcs?!
Lol sorry mate, didnt explain myself properly!
No, I meant i did it in my car!
Nope, didnt stall at all had some really good reaction times, 0.2...and think but will check my paper that one was 0.09!

[VTSKris]

1.1 box and VTS aint the same. The 1.1 is the closer ratio of the 2, my mate just put 1 in his vts.

[Ry_B]

Oh fair enough lol. Can it cope with the power alright considering it came from a 1.1 with 60ish bhp?

[shaggers_saxvtr]

1.1 box and VTS aint the same. The 1.1 is the closer ratio of the 2, my mate just put 1 in his vts.

Thought so, thanks for verifying this mate!

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Oh fair enough lol. Can it cope with the power alright considering it came from a 1.1 with 60ish bhp?

Yes it seems to, think the boxes are all the same strength anyway.

[bullit]

i saw you there didnt see you run.

[GT3]

1.1 is not that much different ratio wise to a VTR, The VTS box is a lot closer thats for sure.

[bullit]

vts and 1.1 are same apart from final drive

[Ry_B]

Which has the best final drive then?

[GT3]

vts and 1.1 are same apart from final drive

According to my Haynes, 1.1 is same as VTR apart from final drive.

[hesslevtr]

i got 16.4 with bmc and cat back piper with it striped well just rear seats out also was wet and muddy tyres

im sure i can get faster in dry and have a 4-1 manifold

alex got a 16.1 his is open filter but moved behind headlight and had headlight removed, 4-2-1 manifold de cat magnex back box and cam and headwork

[shaggers_saxvtr]

i saw you there didnt see you run.

Oh right, when did you see me?

[shaggers_saxvtr]

According to my Haynes, 1.1 is same as VTR apart from final drive.
Ratios are definitely different now:
When i had my VTR gearbox rough speed per gear was as follows:
2nd 58
3rd 90ish
4th 110
5th 125+ easily

NOW it is approx:
2nd 53
3rd 80-85
4th 100ish
5th 125 and thats at 6,000rpm, it would go more but 5th gear is not long enough

[shaggers_saxvtr]

i got 16.4 with bmc and cat back piper with it striped well just rear seats out also was wet and muddy tyres

im sure i can get faster in dry and have a 4-1 manifold

alex got a 16.1 his is open filter but moved behind headlight and had headlight removed, 4-2-1 manifold de cat magnex back box and cam and headwork
Not bad at all!
I did my 16.8 with 2 subs in the boot, all interior (Nothing stripped out apart from front grill - but doubt that did much!), pipercross filter (old style open type) 15" alloys, 1.1/vts box, janspeed backbox and de-cat. But due to my vtr centre section blowing I have got a restictive pipe which is much thinner than standard now, oh and was carying my spare wheel! To come: Straight through centre section and 4-1 manifold...(Did my time on friday when it was wetter)

[GT3]

Sounds like a VTS box to me.

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Sounds like a VTS box to me.
Possibly mate, but dunno as 5th gear isnt long and i know my car can do over 125 but just not with that box...! :S

[bullit]

you might have been leaving or parked, cant remember, was about 1-2oclock. ive a silver saxo with black wheels

[GT3]

Possibly mate, but dunno as 5th gear isnt long and i know my car can do over 125 but just not with that box...! :S

Remember a VTS has a higher rev limiter that is why it won't bounce off the limiter until about 135 ish but with a VTS box on a VTR it will hit the limiter at a lower speed.

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Remember a VTS has a higher rev limiter that is why it won't bounce off the limiter until about 135 ish but with a VTS box on a VTR it will hit the limiter at a lower speed.

Waheeyyyyy!! Now it all makes sense, I totaly hadnt thought about that, nice one matey, Legend!
So it must be a VTS box I have, right, next mods now include re-map and superchip after all other work is done such as cams, mainfold etc...:)

[Ry_B]

:)

But still, which box will provide the best acceleration in a VTR?

[hesslevtr]

1.3 rallye i think was the discussion on ssc

[Karl]

I thought a superchip was a remap? x

[Ry_B]

A superchip is in a way but they're not too good as they are designed for all cars so can't be accustomed to your needs. A remap is customised to your specific car.

[GT3]

Waheeyyyyy!! Now it all makes sense, I totaly hadnt thought about that, nice one matey, Legend!
So it must be a VTS box I have, right, next mods now include re-map and superchip after all other work is done such as cams, mainfold etc...:)

Don't bother with a superchip, get manifold, cams + remap by chipwizards. In that order :) You won't be dissapointed. :)

[mattwesty]

my rallye which was 1.6 8v, completely standard ran 15.7

[fredjudd]

my rallye which was 1.6 8v, completely standard ran 15.7

What the hell!? My standard VTR ran 17.1... got a timing slip for that?

[SteVTR]

What the hell!? My standard VTR ran 17.1... got a timing slip for that?

dont rallyes have abit more power than a vtr and arent they lighter than a vtr and have a closer ratio gearbox?

that would explain why its quicker

[bullit]

gearbox and lighter yeah. 15.7 is abought right or just after

[fredjudd]

shit the bed, I thought the engines and lay out of the cars were identical only the rallye was a little lighter, sorry if I seemed snobby in my previous post I was uninformed (as usual) so take no notice )

[SteVTR]

shit the bed, I thought the engines and lay out of the cars were identical only the rallye was a little lighter, sorry if I seemed snobby in my previous post I was uninformed (as usual) so take no notice )

haha i learnt that the hard way,i came across a rallye on a back road oneday when i had my vtr and it left me for shit they are nippy little buggers for what they are

[bullit]

my mates cammed one ran 15.1 at the weekend.no remap either. goes to show

[fredjudd]

I think I might sell the saxo to buy a rallye....

[shaggers_saxvtr]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/shaggers_saxvtr/vtsibeat.jpg

Above is the VTS i raced I beat him but only just. This was my best run as well and my timing was as follows that is on my timing slip..

Reaction: +.286
60ft: 2.422
330ft: 6.963
1/8 ET: 10.809
1.8 mph: 64.27
1000 ET: 14.005
1/4 ET: 16.885
1/4 mph: 82.25

The VTS did a 16.905 at 79.61mph

Yes thats right I got a 16 second VTR :D LOL (Lightly modded)


TAlking of 106 RALLYES, Ive been looking at a couple, and pretty tempted but just not sure about the white... only 500 made werent there?

[SteVTR]

aye there werent many made and there arent many of them left now theres a white one for sale on here rallye slags i think seen it at a cruise last month its a tidy little example

[bullit]

there blue aswell

[SteVTR]

theres red and black aswell isnt there?

[bullit]

mrk 1s yeah

[cammedvtr]

Hesslevtr is right i ran a 16.1 three times.lol.

I did run with 16" wheels and the air temp was 33degrees. I have some steel 14" wheels now and with the tyre profile there just about 15" so im hopeing with these and a little cooler weather i can run a late 15.

This was the first time ive ever ran my car down the quarter and my reaction times were about 0.8 (dont ask me what i was doing on the line lol).

There was a standard mk2 vtr just with the back seats out and he was running 16.4's all day long.

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Hesslevtr is right i ran a 16.1 three times.lol.

I did run with 16" wheels and the air temp was 33degrees. I have some steel 14" wheels now and with the tyre profile there just about 15" so im hopeing with these and a little cooler weather i can run a late 15.

This was the first time ive ever ran my car down the quarter and my reaction times were about 0.8 (dont ask me what i was doing on the line lol).

There was a standard mk2 vtr just with the back seats out and he was running 16.4's all day long.

Nice time but then again you are cammed as well..
And for a standard VTR (although 8 bhp more than mine) 16.4 is VERY good.

[harrisvtrkid1]

When your doing these 1/4 miles... where are you changin gear??

1-
2-
3-
4-
5-

Please say in revs and mph


Thanks

[fredjudd]

Changing at 6k each time. lol cant remember the speeds, you dont get into 5th on 1/4 mile in a saxo

[hesslevtr]

you idealy ned to find out when peak power is in your car

vtr is usually just before redline

[harrisvtrkid1]

Dont it slow you down if you change over 5500rpm because you arent gaining power in that gear???

Im not to good with 1/4 miles

[shaggers_saxvtr]

Peak power gear change is 5800 for a vtr my friend ;)

[cammedvtr]

well it all depends on your mods to be honest mate, think mine were as follows roughly:

1st:35mhp
2nd:62mph
3rd:85mhp (defo terminal time)

hope this helps mate...

[Imfromwales]

i dont have a clue...what do ratios have anything to do with speed?
sorry for thread hijack as well shaggers lol!!

[Pickles]

i ran a 16.2 @ 83mph in my vtr with just a peco back box and ram air induction kit:D

[samcook]

what will a vts run the quarter mile in?

[shaggers_saxvtr]

i ran a 16.2 @ 83mph in my vtr with just a peco back box and ram air induction kit:D

Very impressive buddy!

My downfall is on induction I need to get an enclosed as my open pipercross gets soo hot!! Also on the day I had a leaky radiator that we had to fix with radweld until I got home!

[shaggers_saxvtr]

i dont have a clue...what do ratios have anything to do with speed?
sorry for thread hijack as well shaggers lol!!
Thats ok matey!
Basically depending on the gearbox ratios in each gear you will get different speeds, for example my standard vtr box used to get me nearly 110 in 4th gear now with the vts box i have I can only get around 100 or just under, in 2nd gear I used to get approx 58mph but now only around 53....basically the ratios can either be longer or shorter in each gear - a 1.1 has very short ratios wheres a VTR has much longer ratios/longer gears. A VTS doesnt have a very long 1st gear, 2nd is however longer and this is where a VTS really seems to pull, if Im right the VTS ratios are shorter than the VTR ones apart from 5th gear in a VTS is longer?
Basically, depending upon the ratios in the gearbox in the car, the speed you reach before changing will be drifferent.....quick explanation...hope it helps you if not ask again!

[shaggers_saxvtr]

what will a vts run the quarter mile in?
The ones I saw that were good ran it in mid to late 15s, some that idnt start as well were running in the 16s but ones that were perhaps cammed etc were running low 15s, one chap I know of with a huge list of mods done to his VTS including limited slip diff etc claims to have run it in 14.8 and that is very good!!

[SteVTR]

didnt daffys vts san remo run a 14.7?

i'm sure there was a thread about it the otherday