Drink driving

[matt_vtr_15a]

Over the weekend one of my mates got pulled over at around 11pm and was found over the limit... She blew a 55 when back at the police station which is 20 over the limit...

She is due in court next monday, and wants me to go with her as she is shitting herself!

I'm seeing her later to have a catch up and just want to put her at ease, does anybody have any idea of what fine/points she will get?

She is pleading guilty and doesn't have a solicitor so we are going to try n make some sort of plea statement for her to follow... Any idea on what the right and wrong things to say are?

She doesn't earn a great deal, and has no previous driving convictions etc so that will be mentioned amongst other things!

Any input will be appreciated!!

Thanks matt

[BertieG]

it will almost certainly be a ban. no way around it

[Cam]

Good fuck her hope she gets banned.

[saxowebby]

A ban and nothing less and maybe a community order, She should be locked up, COMPLETE TWAT i hate drink drivers after one killed a mate of mine.

[Prickle]

Before the bandwagon of do's and dont's. Is she fit? and let us know how it goes.

[Pitbull69]

Good fuck her hope she gets banned.

This really...

[McGuire86]

She will get a 12 month ban minimum, drink driving is automatically 12 months. Probably some points and maybe a fine.
In the past if you agreed to a drink driving awareness course for a fee around £100 they would reduce your ban by 30% so if she's banned for 12months she will get 9months by doing the course..

[Giraffe]

Ha yeah, a ban no doubt.

[Jamie5709]

Drunk drivers should be permanently banned from road use. You can argue it all you want, but its so easy to not notice someone when you are driving normally; but when you're not thinking straight then it makes it so much easier to instantly kill someone. Rant over.

[Jay_T87]

Its gotta be a ban and then any of or a mixture of points/fine/time in the slammer(could be suspended)/community service.

self inflicted and no sympathy im afraid.

[baker556]

Tell her to say in court that without her license she won't be able to get to work etc and that without work or money she has nothing to live for. Srs i've heard someone plead this before the sentence wasn't as bad as expected.

[Manu]

Add 2 tubes of lube on the shopping list. One for now, and one for the insurance bill when she's allowed to drive again.

has no previous driving convictions etc so that will be mentioned amongst other things!

You mean, she never got caught before ;)

[BertieG]

Tell her to say in court that without her license she won't be able to get to work etc and that without work or money she has nothing to live for. Srs i've heard someone plead this before the sentence wasn't as bad as expected.

this often doesnt work, as she would have known the risk beforehand and commited the crime anyway

[Holty]

shouldnt of been a stupid fooker, people like that tear familys apart! bit soppy i know but its true

[matt_vtr_15a]

I'm against drink driving don't get me wrong theres no excuse but please keep on topic as 'fuck her' etc isn't really helpful though valid from certain peoples perspectives!

She's already having a hard time from her family about it, it was a daft mistake fortunately there was no accident etc and nobody hurt but she will pay the price for her actions

she had a glass of wine whilst watching the football, and when she got dropped off home realised she was locked out with no battery left on her phone! .. And therefore drove somewhere she knew she could stay for the night

[Jay_]

pics of said girl?

[Manu]

she had a glass of wine whilst watching the football, and when she got dropped off home realised she was locked out with no battery left on her phone! .. And therefore drove somewhere she knew she could stay for the night

a glass? Lol, considering what she blew that must have been a pint. A glass of wine over a period of 90 minutes shouldn't come up as a 55. I always check for my keys, wallet and phone before I leave my house, and also before I leave from anywhere else. Simple habit.


Back on topic: ban, fine, drink drive course, community service, insurance price hike.

[baker556]

this often doesnt work, as she would have known the risk beforehand and commited the crime anyway

i've heard different.

[Pieface]

Give her this statement:

"I wusn't drunk bruv, I was bossin da roads nd tha popo cramped my style, you gimme a sentence nd il shank ya and ya family"


Will get her let off.

[MiniGibbo]

Ban without a doubt and in my opinion not a lot enough ban.. she should be banned for life and stoned to death..


Bandwagons.

[matt_vtr_15a]

Give her this statement:

"I wusn't drunk bruv, I was bossin da roads nd tha popo cramped my style, you gimme a sentence nd il shank ya and ya family"


Will get her let off.

Drink driving doesn't make somebody a chav lol! She's a classy gal! Shes expecting the worse anyway, ban and test retake is in her mind! She had keys bur she lives with her nan! And she left her keys in the door which meant she was locked out! Probably best to prepare for the worse!

[saladdodger]

Over the weekend one of my mates got pulled over at around 11pm and was found over the limit... She blew a 55 when back at the police station which is 20 over the limit...

She is due in court next monday, and wants me to go with her as she is shitting herself!

I'm seeing her later to have a catch up and just want to put her at ease, does anybody have any idea of what fine/points she will get?

She is pleading guilty and doesn't have a solicitor so we are going to try n make some sort of plea statement for her to follow... Any idea on what the right and wrong things to say are?

She doesn't earn a great deal, and has no previous driving convictions etc so that will be mentioned amongst other things!

Any input will be appreciated!!

Thanks matt

What is she looking for, sympathy.

Ban her - which i believe she will get, totally unacceptable, people know how much they've had.

Ever seen the after math for real of a drink diver, you dont want to.

[Prickle]

pics of said girl?

I think Matt missed my post too Jay.

[Jay_]

I think Matt missed my post too Jay.

may he will get it this time...

[Carl-h]

She's lying if she told you one glass of wine and blew 55 if you ask me. Yeah so she wasn't planning on driving, I imagine most drink drivers don't plan on killing someone but it happens. She fucked up and has to deal with the consequences.

[tobomoto]

tbh she'll probably just get a ban, some points and a fine. imo they should cut up her licence. you try seeing a good mate knocked off his motorbike and killed in front of you by somone so drunk they werent sober until a day and a half later and then tried denying it while still in the cell. zero tolerance ftw.

[jones91]

It will probably be a two year ban, £200 fine if she pleads guilty and then maybe points and community service on top

[Mike-VTR]

If she blew 55 at the station she must have blown over twice the limit at the side of the road. In which case fuck her, but unfortunately she'll be back on the road in twelve months which is a shame.

[jayline]

get her to flash the judge maybe he will let her off! but seriously ban her as she was lucky to of not caused an accident and tbh shes an idiot for not having her keys or charging her phone!!!

[logic_guy]

Add 2 tubes of lube on the shopping list. One for now, and one for the insurance bill when she's allowed to drive again.



You mean, she never got caught before ;)

I see what you did there.

Tell her to use the YOLO excuse. When the Judge says "Your Banned" shout out "like a boss"

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for her.

[TomSaxoFurio]

Good fuck her hope she gets banned.


+1

stupid bitch

[daveymac]

Ban. Future Insurance wil be fucked also

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[medz_vtrturbo]

Ban. Future Insurance wil be fucked also

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if she was stupid enough to drive after drinking then she would probably be stupid enough to.drive without insurance

[smiith]

No matter what, its a 12 month ban, no ifs, no buts.. Shouldnt be made to do a test again, will just have to send off to get her license back at the end of the 12 months, and prepare to be raped, or not even touched by most insurance companys!

If you are insisting on writing a letter, get a few character references from reputable people, this will help no end, doing that is what drew the line with me getting a suspended sentence, and not prison.. People like business owners and that kind of thing.. Saying its not the kind of thing she would do.. With headed paper, or contact details, plus stating who they are, and what they do, and the relationship with her.. Obviously not family..

Next, if she is writing a letter, let them know how remorseful she is, how it was the biggest mistake she has made, and it was under exceptional circumstances, and how she wishes she could have used better judgement to not have done it.. Also how shaken she is, to have broken the law unknowingly, as its a 1st offence of any kind..

[gdex2008]

pretty simple. Cut the bullshit "needed to go somewhere etc" and be honest about the facts. Every drink driver has a sob story...its like fucking X factor. Face facts shes gonna be without a car for a year at least and get used to walking or cycling. Driving is dangerous enough with the plethora of arseholes on the road without adding any extra dangers to proceedings. DONE

[smiith]

pretty simple. Cut the bullshit "needed to go somewhere etc" and be honest about the facts. Every drink driver has a sob story...its like fucking X factor. Face facts shes gonna be without a car for a year at least and get used to walking or cycling. Driving is dangerous enough with the plethora of arseholes on the road without adding any extra dangers to proceedings. DONE

I'm sure matt will thank you for the useful input. Drivers in York are horrendous, fact.

[Tontsy]

Give her this statement:

"I wusn't drunk bruv, I was bossin da roads nd tha popo cramped my style, you gimme a sentence nd il shank ya and ya family"


Will get her let off.

i f'lold

[gdex2008]

I'm sure matt will thank you for the useful input. Drivers in York are horrendous, fact.

I cant possibly deny that. And it may not have been useful advice but its the long and short of it

[Tontsy]

seriously though, i hope she gets banned and a hefty fine! a sentence would be better!

but she is stupid enough to drink and drive, she will no doubt just not tell her insurance company that it happened and try her luck again!

people who get caught doing silly things that could take lives (drink drive / phone / speeding / cutting corners / jumping lights etc etc) should be made to stand up infront of school kids and explain why they thought it was acceptable to do such a thing.

a local primary school has joined forces with its local cop shop and at lunch time they will pull over speeders outside teh school and make them go into the playground and apologise.
its big lols!

[smiith]

seriously though, i hope she gets banned and a hefty fine! a sentence would be better!

but she is stupid enough to drink and drive, she will no doubt just not tell her insurance company that it happened and try her luck again!

people who get caught doing silly things that could take lives (drink drive / phone / speeding / cutting corners / jumping lights etc etc) should be made to stand up infront of school kids and explain why they thought it was acceptable to do such a thing.

a local primary school has joined forces with its local cop shop and at lunch time they will pull over speeders outside teh school and make them go into the playground and apologise.
its big lols!

Untill you get paedo's belting past at 60 for giggles!

[LeeM]

Just a ban and fine, no points and no retest. It'll be 12 months and 50% of a weeks wages.

[Manu]

Also how shaken she is, to have broken the law unknowingly,

That would sound a bit rich, as in "Sorry your honour, I didn't know it was illegal to drink and drive. My lack of knowledge obviously affected my better judgement, and I resent deeply about it."

[Prickle]

Just a ban and fine, no points and no retest. It'll be 12 months and 50% of a weeks wages.

Whens your ban up?

[smiith]

That would sound a bit rich, as in "Sorry your honour, I didn't know it was illegal to drink and drive. My lack of knowledge obviously affected my better judgement."

Ever been to court?

Making out like she thought she would be well below, having only one glass, and not using her better judgement will do the world of good with 90% of judges. They HAVE to take it into consideration.

[Tontsy]

Ever been to court?

Making out like she thought she would be well below, having only one glass, and not using her better judgement will do the world of good with 90% of judges. They HAVE to take it into consideration.

they HAVE to appear to take it into consideration . . . they can ignore what they want. who knows what goes on in their head.

[Manu]

Ever been to court?

Making out like she thought she would be well below, having only one glass, and not using her better judgement will do the world of good with 90% of judges. They HAVE to take it into consideration.

Nope, never been to court. But I know for a fact that one wine of glass won't score 55 down the nick. Or was it a pint?

[Saxologist]

So she couldn't have knocked on her neighbours door and used their phone? Or walked to the place?

She made decisions that she thought was the best route. Why wasnt her door key attached to her car key like 99% of us? Why didn't she sleep in her car for a few hours?


This story obviously has a flaw, the women was clearly drunk. A 55 is not a glass and she is lying to you saying it is.

[piranhamatt]

just one glass?

http://drvino.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/bigwineglass.jpg

[Prickle]

Nobody not drove hungover in this thread? Not even after a car show aka TRAX or FCS? ;)

:detective:

#saints

[iVTR]

Not only will she get banned, try getting an insurance quote after being convicted. I heard it's a good 5 grand more.

If someone asked me to go to court with them for that I'd laugh in their face.

[smiith]

they HAVE to appear to take it into consideration . . . they can ignore what they want. who knows what goes on in their head.

Yeh well obviously, they can ignore it, but they have to make out as if they have... Every crime, has a crime code, and there a book full of the code's and punishment for each crime.. They have to stick within some set guidelines of punishment for each crime.. So with letters and such, they are more likely to go to the lower end of the scale, rather than the higher..

Nope, never been to court. But I know for a fact that one wine of glass won't score 55 down the nick. Or was it a pint?

Depends how soon she drove after the drink, how big of a glass it was, I'v had a glass of wine before that was a fiver, and it had half a bottle in a big wine glass.. How much she had eaten that day, how long ago she had eaten, if there was drink in the system from last night.. Alot of factors.

I have been to court, so i know how it all works, and i know 1st hand, giving your plea, and making out you feel really bad, and remorseful, makes alot of difference, like i said, kept me out of prison, in the judges own words.

[stevo67]

Maybe this girl would like to see the photos I was shown when growing up,of people that had been killed due to drink driving(father was a fireman)One of the guys I went to school with I can still remember my father`s words when he came home & told me about cutting this lad out of a wrecked car.

[smiith]

Nobody not drove hungover in this thread?

:detective:

#saints

99% of this forum have never been over any speed limit, driven the morning after, or done anything against the law ever in their lives..

[Tontsy]

Nobody not drove hungover in this thread? Not even after a car show aka TRAX or FCS? ;)

:detective:

#saints


nope.
nope.
and
nope.

dont drive and drive.
wont drink then drive the morning after.

went to work a few years back, first job of the day was to carry out some work a 911.
drove it about 2 meteres and realised i was still pretty fucked!

rest of the day off, winning.

[McGuire86]

Shit surprised the bandwagon hasn't broken down from overloading.

You know if you go out and get smashed on a Friday or Saturday then you're more than likely still over the limit come Monday morning...

[saladdodger]

Nobody not drove hungover in this thread? Not even after a car show aka TRAX or FCS? ;)

:detective:

#saints

not the point, the point is her. you act like its nothing.

[Prickle]

99% of this forum have never been over any speed limit, driven the morning after, or done anything against the law ever in their lives..

Shit surprised the bandwagon hasn't broken down from overloading.

You know if you go out and get smashed on a Friday or Saturday then you're more than likely still over the limit come Monday morning...

I dont think they count that tbh.

we've all done it, it happens daily. Makes me giggle like a peado reading some posts.

not the point, the point is her. you act like its nothing.

Its a point though br0

[saladdodger]

yes shhhhhhhhh hahahahaaa

[Manu]

Depends how soon she drove after the drink, how big of a glass it was, I'v had a glass of wine before that was a fiver, and it had half a bottle in a big wine glass.. How much she had eaten that day, how long ago she had eaten, if there was drink in the system from last night.. Alot of factors.

How about including the time factor since she supposedly had it while watching some football on TV. 90 minutes plus the time to get a lift back plus the time to get nicked. Yeah, it must have been a big glass while she weights 60 pounds and had no food since the day before.

I don't care about the circumstances tbh, she took a gamble with taking the decision of driving under influence and lost that evening. Tough shit. Then taking your car keys instead of your house keys while getting a lift is borderline dumb


99% of this forum have never been over any speed limit, driven the morning after, or done anything against the law ever in their lives..

It isn't the members trial last time I checked. And if it was you're painting everyone with the same brush, using an imaginary opposite extreme, made up figure to try and make a point generated by your own narrow views. 99% of people don't become criminals as soon as they get behind the wheel.

[Martnos]

From experience from 11 years ago she will get a 12 month ban and at least £300 fine

[Gareth_R]

1) no way on this merry earth did she only drink 1 glass

2) she should have slept in her car. Clearly she thought 'I'll risk it' an it bit her on the ass

3) definite ban

4) the only set sentence reduction is a third off for an early guilty plea. Yes judges are told what certain mitigating factors and aggravating factors they can take into account, and might even be given examples like 'first offence less than 1.5 times the limit no accident is 12month ban' HOWEVER only they decide what weight to give to what she says. If I were a judge and she came in telling me 'it was only a glass of wine m'lud' I'd consider her a liar and give her a longer ban.

5) I know someone in a similar situation, got an 18 month ban and £500 in fines and costs

[Martnos]

Also tell her not to worry its only magistrates court she'll be in the court room for about 5 mins confirm its her, hear the police evidence, plead guilty, get told the length of van and fine.

[Gareth_R]

Ha no, the magistrates will want her to tell them what the fuck she was thinking

[LeeM]

Whens your ban up?

10 months left, won't be driving for a couple of years after it anyway. Combination of moving to Liverpool city centre and the conviction on my licence adds 2 grand to my insurance quotes and I was only just over the limit at 42.

[Pitbull69]

she shouldnt of even slept in the car, my mate was banned for sleeping in car whilst over the limit, the police said he was in control of a vehicle, they had to wake him up,

[Manu]

she shouldnt of even slept in the car, my mate was banned for sleeping in car whilst over the limit, the police said he was in control of a vehicle, they had to wake him up,

Leave the keys in the boot.

[Gareth_R]

Or sleep on the back seat

[Pitbull69]

his keys was "supposedly" in his bag, I dont agree with drink driving at all, but surely if your asleep police should use there heads and realise you aint going anywhere..

[Manu]

^^^ A part of this has to do with prevention, they can't spend all night there making sure he ain't gonna drive away. Also If they check for a warm bonnet and find one, you're toast.

[iVTR]

Until you wake up and have the munchies?

Agreed it's a fucking stupid rule if your asleep and the keys are in the dashboard or whatever but welcome to the nanny state we call ENGLAND :D

[Manu]

Until you wake up and have the munchies?

Agreed it's a fucking stupid rule if your asleep and the keys are in the dashboard or whatever but welcome to the nanny state we call ENGLAND :D


Don't get yourself in a situation where you have to sleep drunk in your car then. Nanny state should prevent deaths caused by drink driving as much as they possibly can. If that involves removing drunk people from inside their vehicle then I'm perfectly fine with that.

I have also been once involved in a situation where a drunktard was parked in the street against someone's front door with the music blaring out and a bottle of jack in his right hand. Me and the neighbours all came out as one to remove his keys, the bottle and prevent some potential drama. The guy got arrested and charged, as far as I am concerned that was the right thing to do. We didn't wait to see if he would fall asleep.

[Saxologist]

I dont understand why she didnt ask to borrow her neighbours phone...

[McGuire86]

She should of just stood on a street corner, then she could of had a roof over her head, some money and an ass full of jizz.

[smiith]

How about including the time factor since she supposedly had it while watching some football on TV. 90 minutes plus the time to get a lift back plus the time to get nicked. Yeah, it must have been a big glass while she weights 60 pounds and had no food since the day before.

I don't care about the circumstances tbh, she took a gamble with taking the decision of driving under influence and lost that evening. Tough shit. Then taking your car keys instead of your house keys while getting a lift is borderline dumb




It isn't the members trial last time I checked. And if it was you're painting everyone with the same brush, using an imaginary opposite extreme, made up figure to try and make a point generated by your own narrow views. 99% of people don't become criminals as soon as they get behind the wheel.

No, they don't, but they all break the speed limit, which is breaking the law. No person who has been driving has ever not gone over the limit, can't be helped at times with overtakes..

You're all making out like she is the worst person on earth, 55 isnt exactly high.. People blow in the 100's daily.. Not narrow minded at all really is it, if anything, its you, you don't know any of her circumstances.. Maybe she lived out in the sticks where she had no option but to drive somewhere, maybe she had just eaten, so was under the impression she would be under the limit.

But im sure you have never driven hungover..

Did matt ask you for your opinion of her? Or have i missed something? He asked for advice for court, not a slagging match over what you think of one of his friends, who has made a mistake in her life, obviously something you have never done.

[smiith]

Or sleep on the back seat

Leave the keys in the boot.

Neither of these work, nor does leaving the key ontop of the tyre, if its near the car, they look at it asif you could pick them up and drive whenever you feel like it..

[Manu]

No, they don't, but they all break the speed limit, which is breaking the law. No person who has been driving has ever not gone over the limit, can't be helped at times with overtakes..

You're all making out like she is the worst person on earth, 55 isnt exactly high.. People blow in the 100's daily.. Not narrow minded at all really is it, if anything, its you, you don't know any of her circumstances.. Maybe she lived out in the sticks where she had no option but to drive somewhere, maybe she had just eaten, so was under the impression she would be under the limit.

But im sure you have never driven hungover..

Did matt ask you for your opinion of her? Or have i missed something? He asked for advice for court, not a slagging match over what you think of one of his friends, who has made a mistake in her life, obviously something you have never done.

Shouldn't drink and drive, period. And I couldn't care less about those daily people who score a 100, that's not an excuse to make 55 acceptable. The circumstances are, she chanced it and lost. Tough shit.

And no I never drove drunk or hungover. Besides not being my trial here, I don't think that's any of your business since you're in no position whatsoever to improvise yourself as my own personal judge, who's either going to call me a road offender or a liar. Or even tell me what to post, what not to post... And I quote:

Any input will be appreciated!!

His words, not mine, so I accordingly gave my input. Whether it pleases you or not, quite frankly: I don't give a flying fuck. A drink driver got his/her license taken away? Good news, safer roads, yay. Or maybe I should have said awwww poor darling hope she gets away with it...

[Spanky]

after reading all the replys to this thread i think most of you have had a glass or two of wine tonight lol

Manu wins though - "one wine of glass wont score 55 down the nick"

i did lol!!

[DreamEater]

I'm seeing her later to have a catch up and just want to put her at ease, does anybody have any idea of what fine/points she will get?



Get a sympathy fuck!

[brianS]

Also tell her not to worry its only magistrates court she'll be in the court room for about 5 mins confirm its her, hear the police evidence, plead guilty, get told the length of van and fine.

At least someone knows it's a magistrate court,
All this talk of judges was making me wonder if someone had been murdered

[Stephanielouise_x]

Idiot, Shouldnt drink drive. End of.

[matt_vtr_15a]

Cheers smith and other useful posts, everyone else as i already said your opinion is fine but not really required..

I'm against drink driving, not done it myself knowingly but after heavy sessions the following day i've drove n not thought about it... Different circumstances however..

In regards to askin the neighbours she lives with her nan, all the neighbours are of similar age and literally in bed at sunset! She'd give someone a heart attack banging on there door late at night (for old people its late anyway)


She will get the punishment in which the law states she deserves.. Thanks for the useful input!

I also dare bet 75% of people slagging her off have drove when they probably shouldnt have!

If i was her in her position i'd of done the same! Sitting in her car all night in an area that is known to be a bit rough or walk about half hour with no phone in case of emergency!

If i was a young female id definately get myself somewhere safe for the night, if i felt perfectly fine ( which she says she did)

She only got pulled due to a cracked back light which was blinding an officer, he then realised she was being extremely sheepish!

She may have drank more but it was over a prolonged period and she had eaten... But trust me it wasnt a great deal, i know her n she's practically stone cold sober after a bottle!

Anyway thanks for the input, not looking at a debate on what she deserves.. She was over the limit so the law will decide that not saxo enthusiasts...

[Cam]

Smith just wants a shag iirc :homme:

[Gareth_R]

At least someone knows it's a magistrate court,
All this talk of judges was making me wonder if someone had been murdered

Unless she gets a district judge sitting in the mags. Pretty common

[devilsadvocate]

Likely outcome:

12 month ban
Very expensive insurance for the next 5 years

55 is fairly over the limit and that's after the drive to the police station so could have even been double before her decision to drive. Alcohol affects people differently, some people can drink more than others before they are over the limit. I reckon a bottle of beer could put some people over the limit!

Personally I simply do not drink if I know I will be driving, what's the point if the risk element is still there for the sake of one drink?

[m3wood]

i dont agree with the if you have your keys on you law that its an intent to drive because my mate got done as he got drunk and realised he was too drunk to ride his bike home so he simply pushed it up the hill on the path home only to be stopped and to be charged with drink riding. now i think thats harsh as he was trying to do the right thing.

[Cal]

So many bandwagon saintards in this thread... a lot of the high horse enthusiasts will be offenders whether they realise it or not. Cringe.

9/10 people will have drink driven without even realising they have done. After a decent night on the lash most people will still be well over after 24 hours.

A lot of people think food/water sobers you up faster. It doesn't, it actually slows down the rate which your body processes the alcohol.

Ignorance isn't an excuse, people should be educated on it when taking their test.

I suppose everyone on here bought a Saxo for their practicality and build quality too...

[hellonpluto]

i hope she gets the death sentence

[Gareth_R]

9/10 people will have drink driven without even realising they have done.

FLOL and where did you get that stat from?!

There's 2 bandwagons in this thread, both just as bad.

[Cal]

FLOL and where did you get that stat from?!

There's 2 bandwagons in this thread, both just as bad.Not a stat. Just my opinion.

[23carragold]

............

[leeroybrown]

Should all get down to Halfords and buy those little breathalyses thingys – Only a couple of quid – Safe way of checking if your over the limit then.

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[23carragold]

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[McGuire86]

Should all get down to Halfords and buy those little breathalyses thingys – Only a couple of quid – Safe way of checking if your over the limit then.

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Just have another pint, alot easier to know you're over the limit then :drink:

[Gareth_R]

People who drive after a night out don't particularly have the same "mens rea" for the act, as Cal said, unwittingly they drive without realising that they technically are still over the limit.

MR in both cases is recklessness, and both as bad as each other IMO

[smiith]

I'm not on a bandwagon, I just hate how everyone on here, jumps on having a go at someone when they make a mistake.. End of the day, its a mistake, People have bigger tolerances to others, i can drink a bottle of vodka, then go out in town on the lash all night.. Some people have 3 cans of larger, and are on their arse..

No one knows her full circumstances, and 90% of people on here will have driven the day after going out for a few ales, and not even thought about it.. Im sure 50% will have thought in the morning "nah il be fine, only a quick drive, i wont get stopped" and done it anyway, in the back of your mind knowingly doing it..

End of the day, drink drivings wrong, but Matt asked if someone could give advise for court, not tell him what he already knew about drink driving.

Oh, and its confirmed, Manu is a bell end, who is sat on a horse with stilts, who has obviously never ever broken any law, and likes to live in that little dream world where he believes that.

[Mr_P]

Lolz at the angry pitch fork bearing mob.

Im sure the replies to the one lunatic one ice pick video were more welcoming.

Although I am not in anyway condoning what she has done is in anyway correct. People can learn from their mistakes, following a punishment. So ban her for life and have a dead warthog shoved up her bum for now and eternity really isn't necessary.


And as far as the law about drink driving when sleeping in your car, the trail to prosecution has changed recently. In the past, you had to prove you weren't going to drive the car. Now, the police have to prove you were going to drive the car.

[Jay_]

I like beer.

[MuZiZZle]

where are the pics of her boobies and hairy lady parts?

this thread is fucking useless!

no woman should ever be mentioned without being accompanied by parts of her norks and growler, possibly her face!

meh

[MuZiZZle]

where are the pics of her boobies and hairy lady parts?

this thread is fucking useless!

no woman should ever be mentioned without being accompanied by parts of her norks and growler, possibly her face!

meh

[saxolove]

Good fuck her hope she gets banned.

exactly. her own fault! putting peoples lives at risk like that, discusting.

[23carragold]

..........

[auds]

lol what sort of plea statement....sorry office but I was drunk, I won't do it again.....until the next time I'm drunk ha, let her be shitting it, learn to take responsiblity for her 'own' actions, grow the fuck up I say!

[matt_vtr_15a]

lol what sort of plea statement....sorry office but I was drunk, I won't do it again.....until the next time I'm drunk ha, let her be shitting it, learn to take responsiblity for her 'own' actions, grow the fuck up I say!

you make a plea statement as part of the process...

so grow the fuck up and know what you're talking about before you pipe up with a useless post...


As said, cheers for the USEFUL posts regarding my initial question...the rest of you who decided to provide no input except your opinion on somebody you know nothing about except for a mistake they made can go fuck yourselves San Diego...

[Giraffe]

chillllllllllllll winston

[P_Connor]

I'm pretty sure Auds is like 40 or something......

Anyway. There are two views firstly like others have said one less potentially 'dangerous' driver off the roads, secondly it was a mistake and we learn by these mistakes. I think it will be a community service sentence. I say this because where I used to work in a charity shop we were sent people by courts for roughly a few months until they had dealt their time.

Now with me being the nosey cunt that I am I asked them, and the majority easily were for drink driving. But that's my thoughts.

[Tontsy]

you make a plea statement as part of the process...

so grow the fuck up and know what you're talking about before you pipe up with a useless post...


As said, cheers for the USEFUL posts regarding my initial question...the rest of you who decided to provide no input except your opinion on somebody you know nothing about except for a mistake they made can go fuck yourselves San Diego...

pipe down.
your mate, who you clearly want to try and get your leg over with, was in the wrong. she was pissed and drove.

she blew a 55 at the station? so what the fuck was she blowing at the side of the road (giggidy) she didnt just have one glass, accept the facts!
you and your childish and stupid little girl-friend are foolish, you so even more for beliving that she only had a single glass and was fine.

why do people beleive they can commit an offence and then beg their way out?
shoot the cunt in the head.


in the local news today, some taxi driver was caught 3 times speeding in a 30,IN THE SAME NIGHT! his excuse was "i didnt know it was a 30" it used to be a 40. there are no signs saying 30... well duh, highway code says anything without a speed sign treat as a 30. oh and he obviously missed the three signs stating 30! and cameras which caught him.

i didnt try blagging my way out when i lost my license!

[LeeM]

To blow 55 she would have had about 5 units of alcohol left in her system, that's over half a bottle so allowing time to drink it, drive home, get caught and get to the station I'd bet my bank balance on her having the full bottle.

[matt_vtr_15a]

pipe down.
your mate, who you clearly want to try and get your leg over with, was in the wrong. she was pissed and drove.

she blew a 55 at the station? so what the fuck was she blowing at the side of the road (giggidy) she didnt just have one glass, accept the facts!
you and your childish and stupid little girl-friend are foolish, you so even more for beliving that she only had a single glass and was fine.

why do people beleive they can commit an offence and then beg their way out?
shoot the cunt in the head.


in the local news today, some taxi driver was caught 3 times speeding in a 30,IN THE SAME NIGHT! his excuse was "i didnt know it was a 30" it used to be a 40. there are no signs saying 30... well duh, highway code says anything without a speed sign treat as a 30. oh and he obviously missed the three signs stating 30! and cameras which caught him.

i didnt try blagging my way out when i lost my license!

I did go on to say in a future post she had more than a glass of wine, she told me on the phone whilst her mum was with her.. and then told me what she had actually drunk afterwards as she didn't want her mum to know she had drunk more...

How is she trying to blag her way out of it? After looking at the general process of what happens it seems you should make a plea statement so that you explain the situation and then your circumstances etc can be catered for...

Not to try and blag out of it at all, she is totally prepared to lose her license, she just wants to prevent further action such as a hefty fine and community service as she already works quite a lot of hours a week!

You lost your license? How does that make you any different then, you must of been driving in a manor which endangered others?

But you took the punishment and lost your license, which she is accepting and not trying to make excuses for..

The whole part of her plea will be to accept her punishment but bear in mind she earns very little and couldn't pay any hefty fines immediately etc...

Don't get me wrong I don't condone drink driving at all, but I've made mistakes and possibly drove over the limit without knowing such as the morning after a heavy night...

I dare bet many others have also done this and convinced themselves they are ok when actually they are not... but this is a forum known for its careful drivers...

[Jay_]

i didnt try blagging my way out when i lost my license!

when did this happen? :n:

[matt_vtr_15a]

12 month ban but reduced to 9 months if she attends a course..

& £300 fine which she can pay in monthly installments of £70

not as harsh as I expected if honest...

[Prickle]

Ban to re-take her test or just untill then? then carry on as le normale'

[matt_vtr_15a]

Ban to re-take her test or just untill then? then carry on as le normale'

carry on as normal after the 9 month period, expected her to have to do an extended driving test tbh!

[Prickle]

carry on as normal after the 9 month period, expected her to have to do an extended driving test tbh!

Not bad going at all!

Plenty of time to save for a new motor! :cool:

[devilsadvocate]

12 month ban but reduced to 9 months if she attends a course..

& £300 fine which she can pay in monthly installments of £70

not as harsh as I expected if honest...

Plus mega expensive insurance for the next 5 years, even with a vajajay.....

[danny-vts]

forgive me if im wrong, but don't you have to pay for that course??
my mate got banned years ago for drink driving and had to pay to go on it to reduce his ban.

[moxy89]

drink driving stay on the lisence for 10 years now

[matt_vtr_15a]

forgive me if im wrong, but don't you have to pay for that course??
my mate got banned years ago for drink driving and had to pay to go on it to reduce his ban.

yeah, she's not doing it though.

She has cancelled her insurance and sold her car, she doesn't particularly need a car so she will just wait till her insurance isn't a rip off...

I would say that the insurance helps keep previous drink drivers off the road a bit longer due to the excessive cost which can only be a good thing!!

[danny-vts]

drink driving stay on the lisence for 10 years now

ouch!!
would rather pedal everywhere for 10 years than pay cripling prices for insurance .

[saxova]

forgive me if im wrong, but don't you have to pay for that course??
my mate got banned years ago for drink driving and had to pay to go on it to reduce his ban.

Yeah you have to pay - £165 iirc!

drink driving stay on the lisence for 10 years now

ouch!!
would rather pedal everywhere for 10 years than pay cripling prices for insurance .

Only have to declare drink driving to insurance for 5 years though.

Before drink driving I was paying £572 a year insurance,

After drink driving I'm paying £1280 a year, So yeah - doubled it. Still not too bad.

[VTR-Chris-VTR]

im on a ban atm for drink driving......yes im a twat but i dont care what people think of me, it was a human error we all make mistakes

i blew 41 at the station, if i blew 40 they was gonna let me walk free cos they give u a leeway cos the machine aint 100% right....only way to get a 100% true reading is by doing a blood test..........i did a urine test aswell cos i blew under 50 which was optional.......but i ended up with a 12month ban, reduced to 9 months cos i did the course and a £200 fine

but the course is very interesting, the stats actually say 3500-4000 ppl are killed on the road each year, but only 400-600 is down to drink driving, so thats say something in my eyes, not saying its right to drink drive, but its not right to call ppl that has made that mistake a twat tbh.

but ive paying my punishment for it now and i aint gonna do it again :y:

[hellonpluto]

can you excersie like fuck in the paddy wagon whilst being carted to the station to sweat out the alcohol?

[JoshFurioBrookes]

can you excersie like fuck in the paddy wagon whilst being carted to the station to sweat out the alcohol?

Wouldn't that reduce the rate of the break down of alcohol? I thought it was better to do nothing so more blood goes to liver so the enzymes do whatever they do quicker. (Basic knowledge so I could be wrong).

[Peter_D]

Matt ignore all these fairys lad, i take my hat off to your friend it takes balls to jump in the car when you've had a drink, fair play to her for doing it :)

No one got hurt, she was just unlucky to be caught.. Blowing 55 she can't of even been that drunk at all, they should get rid of that system and just adopt the olden days way where if you can't walk in a straight line or see how many fingers he's holding up, then you're pissed and should be escorted home to your bed :y:

[matt_vtr_15a]

PETER :hug:

where you been mate?

[Prickle]

Hes been bumming Farcry 2!

[Peter_D]

lolz ^ Ive been working in Orkney been away 2 weeks at a time then home for a weekend...finished there now though and i'm currently getting my weeks Easter holiday.. Hows the car lookin pal?

[matt_vtr_15a]

lolz ^ Ive been working in Orkney been away 2 weeks at a time then home for a weekend...finished there now though and i'm currently getting my weeks Easter holiday.. Hows the car lookin pal?

Good man, glad you're busy!


I've got loads of bits and bobs bought for it in my mates garage pal!!

But we are always working on his car at the moment as it is a damn site more exciting than mine aha!

Got suspension, lights, exhaust, spacers and other bits and bobs... they just need putting on! Half tempted to sell all the bits though to a mate and get rid of the car!

I can afford to get something a bit more outrageous now I am fully qualified and don't have to travel so much for work :y:

So I could sell everything up and getting something a little older but a lot faster maybe...

How is your current horse and cart? x

[Peter_D]

Hmm what car have ya got in mind? Remember just cos it's faster doesn't mean itll be any cooler or nicer to own...the Clio will look tidy with all the bits you had planned for it, i remember discussing it all with ya haha.. Mines sound aye just the same as it was really but lookin cleaner and with refurbed wheels...just gonna keep it now, not gonna spend any more on it, got a meeting tomorrow for getting a mortgage for a house :d

[matt_vtr_15a]

Hmm what car have ya got in mind? Remember just cos it's faster doesn't mean itll be any cooler or nicer to own...the Clio will look tidy with all the bits you had planned for it, i remember discussing it all with ya haha.. Mines sound aye just the same as it was really but lookin cleaner and with refurbed wheels...just gonna keep it now, not gonna spend any more on it, got a meeting tomorrow for getting a mortgage for a house :d

I was thinking a mint s14a, as my best mate has got soo many spare parts for them and he knows them like the back of his hand...

ORRR

Evo 5 remapped and just use the anti-lag every morning in the city centre to scare the shit out of everyone! or a newer more reliable Evo but I've not really looked into them...In no major rush though

Service costs just scare the shit outta me, but I can car share to reduce my mileage !!

I might put all the parts on my car and see if I want to keep it for a little while!

Just need more power and some rear wheel / 4 wheel drive

[saladdodger]

If she posts some naked pic i'll take the points :D

[matt_vtr_15a]

If she posts some naked pic i'll take the points :D

she could have 1 leg, 1 eye and ginger hair for all you know. She hasn't but she could have..

[Viper]

I see what you did there.

Tell her to use the YOLO excuse. When the Judge says "Your Banned" shout out "like a boss"

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for her.

*you're

[saladdodger]

she could have 1 leg, 1 eye and ginger hair for all you know. She hasn't but she could have..

she already sounds better than i thought

[Yamaha318]

seriously though, i hope she gets banned and a hefty fine! a sentence would be better!

but she is stupid enough to drink and drive, she will no doubt just not tell her insurance company that it happened and try her luck again!

people who get caught doing silly things that could take lives (drink drive / phone / speeding / cutting corners / jumping lights etc etc) should be made to stand up infront of school kids and explain why they thought it was acceptable to do such a thing.

a local primary school has joined forces with its local cop shop and at lunch time they will pull over speeders outside teh school and make them go into the playground and apologise.
its big lols!

Mum got pulled last week at the local primary school doing 36 in a 30, had a young lad ask "how many of my class mates will you have to run over and kill before you stop speeding?" that's fucked up.

[wicked-vtr]

Mum got pulled last week at the local primary school doing 36 in a 30, had a young lad ask "how many of my class mates will you have to run over and kill before you stop speeding?" that's fucked up.

Depends how big her car is and how fat the kids are, a really fat kid would slow you down more than a skinny one

[Viper]

Mum got pulled last week at the local primary school doing 36 in a 30, had a young lad ask "how many of my class mates will you have to run over and kill before you stop speeding?" that's fucked up.

I hope she replied with "how many of you retards will get run over before you stop running into the road?"

[Gareth_R]

That kid is a legend. Who speeds outside a school?!?!

[Martnos]

carry on as normal after the 9 month period, expected her to have to do an extended driving test tbh!

She won't have to retake her test that happens when you lose your lisence through the accumulation of point since you get no points for drink driving no retake normally anyway

[matt_vtr_15a]

She won't have to retake her test that happens when you lose your license through the accumulation of point since you get no points for drink driving no retake normally anyway

She doesn't have to retake, we expected she would but she doesn't...


In regards to the speeding outside a school, it is fucked up!

People never speed outside a school when the kids are outside the school premises and there are too many cars to do so anyway, therefore when you do speed past the school all the kids should be safely inside the classrooms..

If you do run one over it's fair punishment for being a truenting little twat!!

[Ryanoo]

I drunke and drove once about a month after getting my car, had a 'race' with my mate, police came off a dual-carriage way as we went onto it and they followed us, at this point I realised how stupid I was, not only for personal loss money/fines/etc and the fact I was probably 3 times over the limit. But for the things that 'could' happen, other persons deaths etc albeit it was 3am on a Sunday night so no one was about but since that I Have never/will never ever drink drive again, it's not worth it, nowadays I'll drive somewhere and if I drink I'll get a taxi/bus home and pickup my car the following afternoon, the consequences are too great.