Speed limits: 40mph plan for country roads

[Mr_X]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18840110

They will be reminding us to blink next, anyway, i hope it doesnt happen.

[blackie_2k5]

probs wont happen

bad enough gettin stuck behind wagons doing 40 lol

[Mr_X]

probs wont happen

bad enough gettin stuck behind wagons doing 40 lol

LOL yeah, I want to call bullshit, there have been lots of NSL roads which have been lowered to 40 recently :(

[blackie_2k5]

i haven t read the article so if it points out what im about to say then please forgive me lol

but i think its in aim of dropping the young driver death rate on country roads etc

so it stands a good chance....but the impact on business and traffic would be huge..so im not sure itll happen

maybe some of the more urban nsl roads may drop..as alot are when getting closer to towns etc..but who knows

[AXracing]

If this law is passed it will just make more people brake the law. I see it already as around where I live it was all 60. Most people did within 60. Now we have lots of 40 and even some 30 and 20 zones. Now i see people speed all the time. It ends up with the 12mile drive in to the local town I can do almost as quick on my push bike as i can in my car. Though this may be more to do with all the traffic lights they have added as well.

[Mochachino]

How will it reduce young deaths on country roads though. The deaths are not due to them sticking to the 60mph limit, but because they are exceeding or not driving to the road conditions or the actual road. Reducing the speed limit wont make young drivers think oh I better slow down. They will still break the speed limit and it wont make them consider how they are driving more so than before when the limit was 60mph.

They blame accidents on speeding, but I can only see this increasing deaths and accidents. People getting frustrated behind 40mph drivers then overtaking and taking risks to get past, resulting in an accident which would have been avoided if the driver wasnt sticking to the slow 40mph limit.

Also the government will loose out on fuel tax as people wont be using as much fuel lol

[rob_s]

They have just reduced the road down to the village I live in to a 40 from 50 before that it was a national about 5/6 years ago

Dunno why because there hasn't Been any bad accidents for years,the last one was a farmer pulling out of a field with a trailer on I think someone hit the side of the trailer and tipped the tractor over but that wasn't stricly down to speed if someone pulls out on you and your doing 10 mph you can still hit them

I can see it coming in over the next few years tbh

[harry289]

How will it reduce young deaths on country roads though. The deaths are not due to them sticking to the 60mph limit, but because they are exceeding or not driving to the road conditions or the actual road. Reducing the speed limit wont make young drivers think oh I better slow down. They will still break the speed limit and it wont make them consider how they are driving more so than before when the limit was 60mph.

They blame accidents on speeding, but I can only see this increasing deaths and accidents. People getting frustrated behind 40mph drivers then overtaking and taking risks to get past, resulting in an accident which would have been avoided if the driver wasnt sticking to the slow 40mph limit.

Also the government will loose out on fuel tax as people wont be using as much fuel lol

This!

Won't really need a 5th gear either...lol VTEC will certainly not be needed :P

Yet again another stupid idea made up to try reduce deaths. Its driving with no respect or thought of other road users which causes accidents and deaths.

Just drive with consideration and to the road conditions to reduce the risk of wrecking people's and their family's lives.

[MiniGibbo]

I would literally die inside if that happened..

205 would go straight up for sell too as thats the only use i own it for lol.....

[blackie_2k5]

your totally right danny

its all down to speeders

think the perception they hold is..that most ppl speed a certain amount over any given limit..eg 80-85 in a 70 etc

and are hoping that dropping it to 40 will deter them doing say 80 in a 40 rather then 80 in a 60

so have less chance of them binning it

it wont work...as generally if theyre speeding they dont give a fuck..but i can see the logic in their thinking

[bmxbannanas]

its juststupid , how much freedom have we lost since 2000 , they closed the flappit , they increased inshurance prices and now this , the tw*ts

[Ryanoo]

The reduction should be considered by councils on roads with "many bends or junctions", the Department for Transport (DfT) says in draft guidance.

Thought that said 'Daft' then...

This is ridiculous, first it's raising limits now it's lowering them, they have nothing better to do, all it is is to make them look like their busy...

[pugway92]

stupid idea at this rate with traffic lights at every junction you will get to your destination faster by walking.

[iVTR]

They can suck my balls :y:

No one will do it, and those that do, will be overtaken.

Just means when the feds set up their pathetic lasers around corners we will get done for 2 times the limit rather than 0.5...

:(

[blackie_2k5]

They can suck my balls :y:

No one will do it, and those that do, will be overtaken.

Just means when the feds set up their pathetic lasers around corners we will get done for 2 times the limit rather than 0.5...

:(

rather you then me :homme:

im hoping for a clean license for the first time ever

1 more year and im point free :D

i have less confidence then you that it will ever happen...would be nice to get license without points though lol

[saladdodger]

Some country roads need to be 40mph but not all

[Manu]

I can picture old people in micras doing 22 mph. Oh wait, they're doing that already.

Some roads needs a 40 limit, but it won't stop the odd cunt who decided to go fast regardless.

[EwynSaxo]

They can suck my balls :y:

No one will do it, and those that do, will be overtaken.

Just means when the feds set up their pathetic lasers around corners we will get done for 2 times the limit rather than 0.5...

:(

Well the speed limit is there for a reason im.all for this, hopefully all the wanker drivers will get banned first week this happens

[Barry123]

They're only going to put it where it's really twisty. Tbh you'd be doing no more than 50 on those parts anyway. The rest of the rural roads wil still be 60.

[monka]

fucking stupid idea,

this and all the traffic lights they putting up everywhere almost mean its quicker to walk everywhere. lol

good example, is anyone from southampton, if they have seen the school being built in lordshill, they have put 2 light controlled crossings in, yet just 50 yards away from both sets, is a tunnel under the road.

[Jazz]

It is totally retarded, and it will certainly be ignored by most drivers.

I drive on twisty country lanes for work and doing 40 feels like you're going nowhere.

[Jizanthapus]

What crap this is, who is going to be sitting around on country lanes waiting for people to break the 40mph speed limit

I live out on country roads, and see police maybe once every 2-4weeks when driving around

Dont think this will happen tbh.

[Mochachino]

Whats the speed limit of a single track country road the sort where you have to pull over to let a car past? Isn't that 60mph too?

[Jizanthapus]

Whats the speed limit of a single track country road the sort where you have to pull over to let a car past? Isn't that 60mph too?

Yep they are 60mph too

[bmxbannanas]

they will be putting speed cameras in trees next :(

[Jizanthapus]

they will be putting speed cameras in trees next :(

Ha, but if they do, no ones going to see you cut it down in the countryside (at night obv)
;)

[Cam]

they will be putting speed cameras in trees next :(

Not far off it in my area there is speed cameras down hills and along the a2 behinde a wall!
When the Police speed trap they hide behinde tree's allys and wall and jump out on you.

Anyway i agree with 40mph in the lanes i use them for work daily and have nearly had a few bad crashes due to people over taking doing 70-80mph around blind bends.

[Daz_Kez]

Anyway i agree with 40mph in the lanes i use them for work daily and have nearly had a few bad crashes due to people over taking doing 70-80mph around blind bends.

Yes but realistically that's not due to the speed limit is it? That's due to drivers being utter retards and asking to die.
From what I can tell lowering the speed from 60 to 40 when people feel comfortable doing 80 round a blind bend won't slow them down.. It will have to be something call death! Or at least the ban stick. :-)

[hard_corejoeboy]

Teach the 'young people' what understeer and oversteer is and job done!

[MiniGibbo]

Teach the 'young people' what understeer and oversteer is and job done!

shame noone will teach you ehh...

[Carl-h]

Why can't people be trusted to drive within the conditions? 30's round school I agree with or through town centres and what not, but at 4am they're nonsense.

Single track NSL roads, I can't comfortably get up to 60 on most of them. It's a limit not a target, I may only do 20mph through some sections. Would dropping the limit to 40 make any difference at all? No. Even 40 would be too fast in places.

There attention needs to be focused on educating drivers. Only problem with that is you don't get stacks of money from it like a speed camera...

[Mr_P]

You gotta love sax-p.

As soon as speed limits come into it, people are always defending them, or fighting them.

About 3 years ago, a stretch of nsl single carriageway by my house, got dropped to a 40mph limit. And you know what, I still drive exactly the same speed down it now, as I did then. I still slow down for the 30mph built up zone in the middle, just as I did before.

I drive up north a lot and take two main routes. The motorway route, and the "straight through Wales, over the mountains, via the countryside route"

The latter is the quicker, shorter, quieter route. I pass lots of little small villages on my way, and slow right down for them. As soon as I pass a NSL sign, I go for it. I know the only thing I'm likely to hit is a fucking sheep.

I've done the motorway route several times. Infact, one time, I reset the trip computer and when I got home, my average speed..........Yes, my AVERAGE speed, was just over 70MPH.

I hadn't killed anyone, not even a fucking pigeon. But it still took me longer than the straight route over the mountains.


Coincidentally, I haven't killed even a badger going over the mountains either.......


BUT!

This is sax-p. And nobody here speeds, because it's deadly.

Or, it's more to the fact, that the vast majority of users on here nowadays, are incapable of knowing when is the right time to press the peddle under their right foot and when it's not.

[Jamie]

Already happened to some really long country roads near me!

[Andy_K]

Think Derbyshire have already done it. Most of the good roads across the tops of the dales are now a 40 limit. Destroyed the good driving roads.

[DeanAngell1234]

In the Isle of Man they have no speedlimits outside of town. Yet there accident rate is less than ours

[MiniGibbo]

:PIn the Isle of Man they have no speedlimits outside of town. Yet there accident rate is less than ours

That's because the island is abou as big as tesco's


And even without limits most people sit at 40/50 anyway..

[Mochachino]

Yep they are 60mph too

Surely they just mean these single track roads then? On corners on single tracks or blind bits I only do about 10mph lol

I think tractors should go about 60mph then people dont have to take risks to overtake them

[Prickle]

If that happens...

:(

[yorkie]

theres afew 40mph country road near york no houses or out down them lol

[hard_corejoeboy]

You gotta love sax-p.

As soon as speed limits come into it, people are always defending them, or fighting them.

About 3 years ago, a stretch of nsl single carriageway by my house, got dropped to a 40mph limit. And you know what, I still drive exactly the same speed down it now, as I did then. I still slow down for the 30mph built up zone in the middle, just as I did before.

I drive up north a lot and take two main routes. The motorway route, and the "straight through Wales, over the mountains, via the countryside route"

The latter is the quicker, shorter, quieter route. I pass lots of little small villages on my way, and slow right down for them. As soon as I pass a NSL sign, I go for it. I know the only thing I'm likely to hit is a fucking sheep.

I've done the motorway route several times. Infact, one time, I reset the trip computer and when I got home, my average speed..........Yes, my AVERAGE speed, was just over 70MPH.

I hadn't killed anyone, not even a fucking pigeon. But it still took me longer than the straight route over the mountains.


Coincidentally, I haven't killed even a badger going over the mountains either.......


BUT!

This is sax-p. And nobody here speeds, because it's deadly.

Or, it's more to the fact, that the vast majority of users on here nowadays, are incapable of knowing when is the right time to press the peddle under their right foot and when it's not.

Agreed.

Here's some foos for thought.

If im cycling and going on a good enough downhill you can reach 50 mph quite happily but you can't get done for speeding. So does everyone agree with the law now then?

Common sense prevails I'm sure if I was trusted with the lives of 8 men and shitloads of guns and ammo and trusted not to murder every dirty raghead i came across I'm sure I can decide whether its safe to speed ir not haha

[0rang3peel]

It makes sense in loads of areas, around me over 30 and you'd be in a bush if you didn't know the roads.

They should put the motorway limit up though to 80 imo.

[L33h]

Its fucking bollocks. why dont they teach people to drive properly in the first place.

[yorkie]

If im cycling and going on a good enough downhill you can reach 50 mph quite happily but you can't get done for speeding. So does everyone agree with the law now then?



wrong u can....

[hard_corejoeboy]

Nope..they don't have a speedo so they shouldn't be allowed to do you. DOn't know whether thats changed now?

[hard_corejoeboy]

It makes sense in loads of areas, around me over 30 and you'd be in a bush if you didn't know the roads.

They should put the motorway limit up though to 80 imo.

Oh of course its common sense. I remember being 22ish and pushing it a bit far at times but it was purely down to me learning to drive and because i hadn't (same as everyone else) been taught to a decent enough standard

[12u55]

I'm against the idea. Some of the roads i do in cheshire, are a good few km of straight asphalt. Easily hit 60 in a few seconds. It's common sense in a rural area there could be a horse, or group of school kids looking for Bambi.
However, i don't see this happening. The roads are in worse condition....