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Saxologist
19th July 2012, 16:21
I passed my driving test on the 14th May 2011, and on the 29th Sept 2011, I recieved 3 points and a £60 ban.

I'm currently employed by a company which requires me to drive frequently, and today I went past a mobile camera in a 70 limit at 82mph (on the clocks)

I'm waiting to see if I get a ban because speedo would make it more like 76mph, and allowence of 77mph.


If I'm banned from driving, for how long would it be? Would I have to retake my test?


Thanks for the help

0rang3peel
19th July 2012, 16:22
Funnily enough I got caught doing exactly 82 mph in a 70

I got offered a speed awareness course or 3 pts and a fine.

you may get lucky

Carl-h
19th July 2012, 16:23
Don't quote me bit I don't think it's a ban as such, just have to take an extended re-test?

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 16:26
Don't quote me bit I don't think it's a ban as such, just have to take an extended re-test?

Too late :y:

I told my work and they said If I get banned from driving then I lose my job, but thats why I'm in such a confused state as I don't understand the rules

VexxedVTS
19th July 2012, 16:29
Don't quote me bit I don't think it's a ban as such, just have to take an extended re-test?

I thought you took the extended retest after you were banned

Barry123
19th July 2012, 16:31
Too late :y:

I told my work and they said If I get banned from driving then I lose my job, but thats why I'm in such a confused state as I don't understand the rules

Just going to wait and see, but it very much depends on the constabulary... where were you caught?

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 16:35
A21 near sevenoaks.

I just thought a van is 60 limit on an A road, hopefully they dont notice as its frontal.

edit: Is a citroen Berlingo classed as a van with a MWL of 2 tons?

Ryan
19th July 2012, 16:42
A21 near sevenoaks.

I just thought a van is 60 limit on an A road, hopefully they dont notice as its frontal.

edit: Is a citroen Berlingo classed as a van with a MWL of 2 tons?

Going from hildenborough/sevenoaks turn off in the direction of westerham? They often have one sitting there just on a left hand bend where a layby is.

rey
19th July 2012, 16:46
You would lose your license for 6 points within 2 years of taking your test.

You could be back driving within two - three weeks of having your license revoked.

You wouldn't get a ban

danny-vts
19th July 2012, 16:46
I thought you took the extended retest after you were banned

correct :y:

OP: can quite possibly see you will get banned, you're only allowed 6 pts in 1st 3 years of driving or however long it is.

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 16:50
Going from hildenborough/sevenoaks turn off in the direction of westerham? They often have one sitting there just on a left hand bend where a layby is.

Yep, thats the one that got me, was in the left hand lane, got overtaken just before it, and saw the man rage in the car infront, just after the lane goes from 3 to 2

L33h
19th July 2012, 16:52
Naughty boy!

And yes a van is a 60 on dual carriageway.

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 16:53
You would lose your license for 6 points within 2 years of taking your test.

You could be back driving within two - three weeks of having your license revoked.

You wouldn't get a ban

But would I still have points? How'd that work as I have over the limit

So theory and practical again?

Or just apply for another practical and take a big insurance up straight after the ban has passed?

correct :y:

OP: can quite possibly see you will get banned, you're only allowed 6 pts in 1st 3 years of driving or however long it is.

But for how long for?
And I know about the 6pts in 2 years I thought, thats why I thought i'd get banned until the 2nd anniversay (june 2013) then I could retake and have 6 points with the limit of 12?

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 16:55
Naughty boy!

And yes a van is a 60 on dual carriageway.

Its a fast road, and a citoen berlingo load weight isnt over 2 tonnes, so i'm not too sure.

A lambo is over 2 tons, thats not classed as a van/ HGV?

rey
19th July 2012, 16:57
Theory and practical again iirc and yes you'd still have points.

If you get points, try and take it to court to get a larger fine/keep your license

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 17:00
Theory and practical again iirc and yes you'd still have points.

If you get points, try and take it to court to get a larger fine/keep your license

Well I'd have nothing to lose, but I have no idea what arguement to say.


A berlingo is 1350kg curb weight
1945kg gross weight

so is it classed as a: (including car derived vans up to 2 tonnes maximum laden weight - see note below) (70 limit)

If your van has a maximum laden weight (Gross Vehicle Weight) of over 2 tonnes (2000kg) then you are restricted to lower speed limits on single carriageways and dual-carriageways

rey
19th July 2012, 17:10
It's not over, sp the lower limits shouldn't apply

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 17:30
So its a 70 for berlingo

danny-vts
19th July 2012, 17:30
you're guarenteed points between 3 and 6 pts, either way you will lose your license, for how long only a judge can say

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 17:31
So, if I got my full 6 points within the 2 years, what will happen afterwards?

rey
19th July 2012, 17:40
Your license will be revoked.

You will have to resit your tests.

You will probably lose your job, as you have no license.

blackie_2k5
19th July 2012, 17:46
Yeah as said unless your lucky you'll lose it

I was lucky

You may be able to claim that your job is in jeopardy and poss go to court.. Didn't work for the polish lad at work though

Also, unless your van is a car derived van.. Eg fiesta van... Astra van, then your limit on a dual carriageway is 60mph...70 on a motorway. (I drive a van for a living). But chances are you'll probs just get done for breaking the car speed limit if it was a mobile van

Lewis1600
19th July 2012, 18:05
6 points in 2 the first 2 years of driving. Lose your licence.

Youll have to re-sit your test. And just hope you dont get a ban.

You wont get the speeding course as its not your first time.

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 18:29
I heard it didnt have to be your first offence?

It was a mobile camera, so it is a bit hazey.

I was thinking of either getting a train and jogging/ cycling 5 miles, and getting an office job, which would mean i'd be doing about 60 hour weeks, but get paid for 40.

Or apply to mcdonalds again and walk 5 minutes down the road at work and get paid for 40 hours.

I'm really not sure which would be better.

cyne
19th July 2012, 18:36
I heard it didnt have to be your first offence?

It was a mobile camera, so it is a bit hazey.

I was thinking of either getting a train and jogging/ cycling 5 miles, and getting an office job, which would mean i'd be doing about 60 hour weeks, but get paid for 40.

Or apply to mcdonalds again and walk 5 minutes down the road at work and get paid for 40 hours.

I'm really not sure which would be better.

Well I would wait to see what you get first before you decide to quit the job you currently have...

You might get lucky and not get anything.

Sam
19th July 2012, 18:36
I heard it didnt have to be your first offence?

It was a mobile camera, so it is a bit hazey.

I was thinking of either getting a train and jogging/ cycling 5 miles, and getting an office job, which would mean i'd be doing about 60 hour weeks, but get paid for 40.

Or apply to mcdonalds again and walk 5 minutes down the road at work and get paid for 40 hours.

I'm really not sure which would be better.

Just wait and see what happens, it will be a long 14days wait for you though.

Hopefully you have learnt your lesson (that you should have learnt the first time!)

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 18:44
I'd rather be prepared for any outcome really, as I'd want to get back to working as soon as possible, having just moved out, can't really afford to care where.

At my current position i'm logging 200 hours a month and getting paid £1k before tax (920 afterwards)

So my dad who works in the same company suggested I leave and just work 160 hours in the month and get paid the same.


I think it has a lot to do about comfort zones. I feel a job is a job, and money is money. I'd have money saved from insurance, and selling my car as well.

Even if nothing happens i'd have thought about leaving, so it's just a kick in the direction


Also, I go on holiday on tuesday, and the vans are leased by the company so it'd go through them first. But when I get back they'll either call me in to decide my fate, or nothing

Sam
19th July 2012, 18:57
So you would rather leave a job/company that could turn into a career, to work in McDonalds?

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 19:00
To which I'd be a manager again, and possibly go higher?

Or stay in a company getting same pay grade, and no pay raise opportunity until i'm fully trained in 3-5 years?

Sam
19th July 2012, 19:11
To which I'd be a manager again, and possibly go higher?

Or stay in a company getting same pay grade, and no pay raise opportunity until i'm fully trained in 3-5 years?

I would rather beg for money than work in Mcdonalds tbh but each to there own.

L33h
19th July 2012, 19:23
I would rather beg for money than work in Mcdonalds tbh but each to there own.

So would i

blackie_2k5
19th July 2012, 19:31
you WILL get your license revoked

im the only person i now that didnt..but i put that down only being about 6 weeks away from being passed two years when i got a further 3 points.. the other 3 i had already were from before i passed my test so this may have played a small part

but as said..its not hazy..your not allowed an awareness course if youve already got points..have to have a clear license to get offered it (although it seems diff districts can work diff ways)

saxowebby
19th July 2012, 19:36
not banned just lose your license and have to do an extended retest.

Chris_O
19th July 2012, 19:40
Going from hildenborough/sevenoaks turn off in the direction of westerham? They often have one sitting there just on a left hand bend where a layby is.

Go past there on a regular basis, the amount of people that must get caught by it is unreal

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 19:45
not banned just lose your license and have to do an extended retest.

Lose it for how long?


Go past there on a regular basis, the amount of people that must get caught by it is unreal

I know, I do it daily, and first time been up there. I know people bomb it because it goes 3-2 lanes, and its a nice hill...

Must have raked it in today *prays it had no film in*

blackie_2k5
19th July 2012, 19:51
could sit it again the next day if wanted

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 20:01
Oh, so its a length of time stated?

Do i still have points afterwards?

How much is it?

Insurance go up etc?

Sorry for flooding you, I did look it up, but I couldnt get my head around it

saxowebby
19th July 2012, 20:05
you will lose your license have to reapply for a provisional and re do your test again, insurance will go up quite a bit aswell.

there are some cases where people have had a 28 day ban and kept their licenses its all what the court feel like on the day tbh

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 20:06
you will lose your license have to reapply for a provisional and re do your test again, insurance will go up quite a bit aswell.

there are some cases where people have had a 28 day ban and kept their licenses its all what the court feel like on the day tbh

I have to go to court? Whaaa?

So after the ban I could literally reapply the next week etc?

blackie_2k5
19th July 2012, 20:15
you wont get banned

theyll just take your license away..at which point you have to re sit as a beginner

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 20:18
And have a fresh license again? But more insurance as i'd been disqualified?

and have 6 points again?

Would I keep my NCB?

23carragold
19th July 2012, 20:20
............

blackie_2k5
19th July 2012, 20:21
your ins will probs be void as your license is gone.

youll still have 6 points

your ins MAY go up but im not 100% on that as its not actually a ban

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 20:21
So i'd be starting from scratch again?

*sigh*

How long would it be till I dont have to declare it?


Thanks Blackie, but how has me being banned effecting my NCB?

When I can cancel my insurance at anytime, and it hasnt caused me to lose it

blackie_2k5
19th July 2012, 20:22
So i'd be starting from scratch again?

*sigh*

How long would it be till I dont have to declare it?

yes..thats why they do it lol

and long as your points last..its not actually a ban..so 4 years plus the extra year that for no reason you still have to declare

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 20:24
Great. lol.

As before I edited my post, how does being disqualified make me lose my ncb?

rey
19th July 2012, 21:18
You keep any NCB as far as I know

And your insurance will go up with 6 points, costs me around £130 extra for 3.

blackie_2k5
19th July 2012, 21:21
Great. lol.

As before I edited my post, how does being disqualified make me lose my ncb?

something to do with not having a valid license to retain them on..if you have an old NCB proof letter laying about..read it..itl will out line details of them :y:

pretty sure then DVLA inform the insurers now when your license is pulled

so if nothing else..youll lose your current year..same as if you canceled your policy early

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 21:26
I'm only a month into this years insurance, so I'd keep last years? How long would the ban be likely to be disqualified for? Typically

rey
19th July 2012, 21:34
You won't be banned.
Your license will be revoked.

L33h
19th July 2012, 21:36
If you do get banned then you're fucked. you'll have to pay the cancellation fee on your insurance which wont be cheap

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 21:46
So how long can it be revoked for?

rey
19th July 2012, 21:49
As long as it takes you to resit the test.

Took my brother 2 weeks.

blackie_2k5
19th July 2012, 21:50
you dont get banned lol

its been said about 20 times

youll just have your license revoked and have to re sit your test again..at any point you would like

Saxologist
19th July 2012, 22:04
Oh that's not to bad then, thanks for your help guys.


Just have to brute it

jones91
19th July 2012, 22:09
May even get offered the speed awareness course yet, and that would mean no ban and less worrying :y:

DreamEater
19th July 2012, 22:21
*Subscribed*

Can't wait to see how badly you'll get fucked :D

danny-vts
20th July 2012, 00:40
May even get offered the speed awareness course yet, and that would mean no ban and less worrying :y:

he wont, hes been done for speeding before.

manic
20th July 2012, 03:50
Is your van sign written.
if not then go to a local market and get some numberplates made with some thing written under the reg and with a logo at the start. tjen put some magic trees on the mirror and a move your tax disk and get a viserbly different tax holder .
then clam its not you and it must have been cloned
trust me this works :-)

Manic

Cam
20th July 2012, 04:02
Should not have been doing 82 anyway, they have speed camera signs up so you are awear they can be there.

Being you need your lisence for your job and already got 3 points, then doing 82 in a 70 does not sound like you need/want your job that much anyway.

Prickle
20th July 2012, 05:37
Get a satnav that shows and beeps when cameras are around :D

ideal..

jones91
20th July 2012, 05:51
he wont, hes been done for speeding before.
Even if youve been caught speeding before, if he hasn't done the course before, then there's a chance he can still be offered it

Lewis1600
20th July 2012, 07:08
My mate got caught speeding, doing 112mph in a 70mph zone,

He was 17 and only passed his test 7-8 months.

He got a £200 fine and 30 ban, and got his licence back straight after.

He has no points.

P.s over 100mph is 6 points.

rey
20th July 2012, 08:19
Slightly different scenario.

He was doing 30mph+ over the limit, not 12/22mph over depending on which limit he was supposed to be following.

danny-vts
20th July 2012, 11:11
OP: i will let you know what could happen, my court case is getting heard next week for speeding last year (they took 5 months to send me court papers), was doing 93 in a 70 and iv pleaded with them not to ban me as i need license for work but to give me a higher fine.

Piggie
20th July 2012, 11:16
OP: i will let you know what could happen, my court case is getting heard next week for speeding last year (they took 5 months to send me court papers), was doing 93 in a 70 and iv pleaded with them not to ban me as i need license for work but to give me a higher fine.

Been there already.

I got caught twice in two years. Second time i ignored the letter, so got summons for 'failing to identify a driver' and speeding. Should have got 7 points on my licence (would have totalled 13 then) then lost it and had retake test.

Blagged it saying i moved out any never saw the NIP (Notice of intended prosecution) so they dropped the first charge.

Told them i live alone and would lose my job then my house if i lost my licence.

Got 150 quidish fine ( cant remeber exactly) and a 2 week ban.

Laughing :D

matt_vtr_15a
20th July 2012, 11:20
I was in a similar situation...


Got my license revoked a couple of months after getting my license so I bought a moped (I had passed my cbt prior to this)

Rode a moped until I could re-apply for a driving test (i think it took a couple of weeks or so to get my provisional license back)

Took the first available driving test (it wasn't extended)

Passed it and sold the ped and carried on as normal...

So I've passed my test 1st time twice... I'm dead fucking good!

And then got done for speeding a couple of weeks later, thought fuck this i'm not replying and havn't heard anything since in over 4 years...

I assume now though you may get off with a speed awareness course considering the scenario you are in...

Piggie
20th July 2012, 11:24
I was in a similar situation...


Got my license revoked a couple of months after getting my license so I bought a moped (I had passed my cbt prior to this)

Rode a moped until I could re-apply for a driving test (i think it took a couple of weeks or so to get my provisional license back)

Took the first available driving test (it wasn't extended)

Passed it and sold the ped and carried on as normal...

So I've passed my test 1st time twice... I'm dead fucking good!

And then got done for speeding a couple of weeks later, thought fuck this i'm not replying and havn't heard anything since in over 4 years...
I assume now though you may get off with a speed awareness course considering the scenario you are in...

I thought id got past the 6 month date they get to find you.

Got my letter one day before.

The day after could have sent it back with a picture of my ass onit and there would have been nothing they could have done lol

Manu
20th July 2012, 11:25
Get a satnav that shows and beeps when cameras are around :D

ideal..

Get a satnav that beeps when you go faster than the speed limit, and forget about the speed traps. Ideal, and safer.

Told them i live alone and would lose my job then my house if i lost my licence.

Funny how having a job and a house allows you to be above the law. No trains/buses/taxis/pushbike shops in your area?

danny-vts
20th July 2012, 11:26
Been there already.

I got caught twice in two years. Second time i ignored the letter, so got summons for 'failing to identify a driver' and speeding. Should have got 7 points on my licence (would have totalled 13 then) then lost it and had retake test.

Blagged it saying i moved out any never saw the NIP (Notice of intended prosecution) so they dropped the first charge.

Told them i live alone and would lose my job then my house if i lost my licence.

Got 150 quidish fine ( cant remeber exactly) and a 2 week ban.

Laughing :D

i ignored the 2nd one too until they sent the damn court papers 5 months later lol.
told them aswell that no licence means no house etc, so hopefully they take it all into consideration and just give me 3pts and a higher fine or a 28 day ban (can get away with that, but any longer im screwed)

Piggie
20th July 2012, 11:33
Get a satnav that beeps when you go faster than the speed limit, and forget about the speed traps. Ideal, and safer.



Funny how having a job and a house allows you to be above the law. No trains/buses/taxis/pushbike shops in your area?

All of the above. Unfortunately when my job involves me driving to and from sites all day, there all pointless just like your post.

I dont think im above the law. Id have taken whatever punishment i got. However i made a mistake, hardly fair to lose my career and home over it....

matt_vtr_15a
20th July 2012, 11:34
Get a satnav that beeps when you go faster than the speed limit, and forget about the speed traps. Ideal, and safer.



Funny how having a job and a house allows you to be above the law. No trains/buses/taxis/pushbike shops in your area?

Hardly suitable if you have to travel for meetings etc quite often...

My cousin got caught doing 122mph down a really steep hill (I'm sure the speed limit was 40)


He should have lost his license but somehow his boss saved him in court saying he would lose his job and he got 11 points and a hefty fine which he paid in installments...

It's the best way to save your license...

Afterall they don't want to make people jobless.

Manu
20th July 2012, 11:56
Yeah apparently they'd rather slap reckless drivers on the hand and take the risk of having someone killed.

122 in a 40 should be a ban for life, no ifs no buts m'lord. He could then buy a moped for all I care, no risk of going over 40 and being a public liability after that.

Hardly suitable if you have to travel for meetings etc quite often...

Tough shit. Wait until a friend or relative of yours gets killed by one of these idiots, maybe you won't care so much about the suitability of it all.

matt_vtr_15a
20th July 2012, 12:28
Yeah apparently they'd rather slap reckless drivers on the hand and take the risk of having someone killed.

122 in a 40 should be a ban for life, no ifs no buts m'lord. He could then buy a moped for all I care, no risk of going over 40 and being a public liability after that.



Tough shit. Wait until a friend or relative of yours gets killed by one of these idiots, maybe you won't care so much about the suitability of it all.

122 in a 40 is a joke and I agree...

But in cases where it's a few miles an hour over the limit, i don't see the point in risking someones job, give them the maximum points without them being banned so they can't do it again and slap them with a fan...


If they get caught again then they lose their license..simple...


Never sped in your life then? Thought not...

Prickle
20th July 2012, 12:38
Get a satnav that beeps when you go faster than the speed limit, and forget about the speed traps. Ideal, and safer.?

Mine beeps if you go over the limit, beeps if theres a camera about and it shows on the maps the ones that do work.

Lol i was on a road coming past haggerston castle last weekend a 60mph, just cruising and i hear a BRWAAAAP *pause BRAAAPP. easily doing over 80mph. Its only a Saxo and pug convertable racing trololol. My satnav beeps as theres a camera just upfront they both slow down right before the line *flash flash* oosh ya beast. :cool:

I was, get a satnav sannn' oh and enjoy that letter you will get in the post! :D

Saxologist
20th July 2012, 13:28
Thanks for all the replies and personal happenings.

I head a word with my head of personel and told him how it was, he said if its a matter of a few months then I can get picked up, if several (when I'm more trained) they'll need to look into my employment.

He said cross the bridge when I could to it, if I can get a course, I'll do it obviously (haven't done one before) and if its revoked for a few weeks I'll send off and wait for my applications and they should come when I'm able to retake.

Would there be the option of paying more of a fine? Or would I need to go to court to contest it? My boss has said he'd go to the court himself and say I'd lose my job and liability.

But doing crazy speeds is just silly, and sods law, the one time I think 'yeah, I can get there without a sat nav' I drift up on speed and get snapped.

Not much to do now but sit back and see what happens, I've applied for other jobs, and looked into travelling, I'd need to get an hours train to Marden, then make my own way to Goudhurst. Or hitch a ride with engineers from maidstone/ rainham or get a lift from my dad who works in the same company

matt_vtr_15a
20th July 2012, 13:38
Thanks for all the replies and personal happenings.

I head a word with my head of personel and told him how it was, he said if its a matter of a few months then I can get picked up, if several (when I'm more trained) they'll need to look into my employment.

He said cross the bridge when I could to it, if I can get a course, I'll do it obviously (haven't done one before) and if its revoked for a few weeks I'll send off and wait for my applications and they should come when I'm able to retake.

Would there be the option of paying more of a fine? Or would I need to go to court to contest it? My boss has said he'd go to the court himself and say I'd lose my job and liability.

But doing crazy speeds is just silly, and sods law, the one time I think 'yeah, I can get there without a sat nav' I drift up on speed and get snapped.

Not much to do now but sit back and see what happens, I've applied for other jobs, and looked into travelling, I'd need to get an hours train to Marden, then make my own way to Goudhurst. Or hitch a ride with engineers from maidstone/ rainham or get a lift from my dad who works in the same company

I honestly wouldn't worry about it, I'm sure you'll get the option to do a course if not just call up the contact number on the fine and tell them your situation...

They may or may not let you off as it's only revoking your license which is more of a pain in the arse than anything else..so you wont be off the road for long anyway

rey
20th July 2012, 13:53
You've gone far too into this.

Applying for jobs etc, you'd need to contest it to go to court aswell.

saxplee
20th July 2012, 13:58
just wait and see what happenes

saxplee
20th July 2012, 13:58
just wait and see what happenes mgith get lucky

blackie_2k5
20th July 2012, 13:58
OP: i will let you know what could happen, my court case is getting heard next week for speeding last year (they took 5 months to send me court papers), was doing 93 in a 70 and iv pleaded with them not to ban me as i need license for work but to give me a higher fine.

That's shear unlucky mate

I got caught doing 96 in a 70 and got 3 points and a £60 fine

blackie_2k5
20th July 2012, 14:02
Hardly suitable if you have to travel for meetings etc quite often...

My cousin got caught doing 122mph down a really steep hill (I'm sure the speed limit was 40)


He should have lost his license but somehow his boss saved him in court saying he would lose his job and he got 11 points and a hefty fine which he paid in installments...

It's the best way to save your license...

Afterall they don't want to make people jobless.


Being banned and losing your license within two years are diff things

I don't know anyone that's contested and been able to keep it, they do this because they say under two years experience your still not a safe driver... So more then anyone shouldn't be speeding

Piggie
20th July 2012, 14:26
Being banned and losing your license within two years are diff things

I don't know anyone that's contested and been able to keep it, they do this because they say under two years experience your still not a safe driver... So more then anyone shouldn't be speeding

I did......................

Only realised now when you said that how lucky i was really.

Prickle
20th July 2012, 14:30
You've gone far too into this.

Applying for jobs etc, you'd need to contest it to go to court aswell.

I think hes calling it 'quits'

noob.

VexxedVTS
20th July 2012, 15:47
So you haven't even recieved any form of notification and you've told your employer and looking for jobs?

I thought you could always go back to good old mcd's?

Saxologist
20th July 2012, 22:07
The van is on lease so my company would get asked who was responsible, then it would proceed that way.

I go on holiday tuesday so if it comes it will be while I'm away, so better they know about it.

If I have options I'll take them, getting revoked will be last option, but court etc could have me banned for longer so I heard?

blackie_2k5
20th July 2012, 22:14
I did......................

Only realised now when you said that how lucky i was really.

you got revoked within 2 years or banned?

if you did..your the first ive even heard of mate..one of the lads at my work even got knocked back..and theyd fucked his up

he was polish and had a license near ten years..but had only had an english license about 18 months

and totted up 6 points.. he nearly lost his job...and his polish/english licnese..and bike license over it

jones91
20th July 2012, 22:14
Tell your company not to disclose who is responsible, they get done, you pay your company's fine and then you still have a driving license, even though you might be a few quid down lol

It might not work, but it's worth a go if it saves your job :y:

blackie_2k5
20th July 2012, 22:16
Tell your company not to disclose who is responsible, they get done, you pay your company's fine and then you still have a driving license, even though you might be a few quid down lol

It might not work, but it's worth a go if it saves your job :y:

do what i would

pay someone to take the points you work with :D

jones91
20th July 2012, 22:22
do what i would

pay someone to take the points you work with :D
Yeah I suppose that would work, but I can't imagine that being a cheap option lol.... especially when your workmates know if you don't pay them top whack, you would lose your job :n:

blackie_2k5
20th July 2012, 22:31
£60 fine and lose your job...and get raped for 4 years on your insurance..

or £300 pay off...plus pay the fine..£360 total...all forgotten about :P

jones91
20th July 2012, 22:49
That's an absolute bargain giving him £300 to take your blame on the speeding :y:...... though that blokes insurance would of probably gone up by £300 for taking your points :p

blackie_2k5
20th July 2012, 22:53
ive not done it yet..but it was on the cards ahah

money talks mate...some ppl see £300 in their hand as an excellent idea

im now down to 3 points as of last month so its all sweet now :)

jones91
20th July 2012, 23:06
If I ever got to that situation I would probably do exactly the same thing, but id imagine I would be paying a hell of a lot more than £300 for one of my work mates to take the points lol

Hopefully il never get into that situation, but I'm also on 3 points and a bald tyre on my licence, and it's easier said than done not getting any more points when you spend all day everyday driving a van, and get a hell of a lot of work dumped on you with fuck all time to do it in :n:

Prickle
20th July 2012, 23:18
do what i would

pay someone to take the points you work with :D

A lad did that when i was at college lol. He paid some £100 to take his 3 points.

TROLOLOL. Loop hole much :zainy:

blackie_2k5
20th July 2012, 23:20
yeah i drive for a living..hence needing to ditch the points

always someone who needs the money mate..use it to your advantage ;)

i work with some desperate fuckers ahahahahah

iVTR
20th July 2012, 23:21
A lad did that when i was at college lol. He paid some £100 to take his 3 points.

TROLOLOL. Loop hole much :zainy:

£100? What a fucking twat that accepted that.

I bet his renewal was at least £200 more !

Prickle
20th July 2012, 23:24
£100? What a fucking twat that accepted that.

I bet his renewal was at least £200 more !

I think so yeah. Well a dosy twat did didnt he lolol. Talking 5yrs ago now :fcuk:

Didnt think it was that long ago..

jones91
20th July 2012, 23:32
yeah i drive for a living..hence needing to ditch the points

always someone who needs the money mate..use it to your advantage ;)

i work with some desperate fuckers ahahahahah
Sadly mate I don't work with any desperate fuckers that would take £300 to take 3 points :( I work with the type of opportunist that would milk the fact that I need a license and would probably dish out a months wages :n:

Looks like I need to move to a company that is full of desperate skint fuckers that always need a spare bob or two haha :)

Ross
21st July 2012, 07:56
P.s over 100mph is 6 points.

Not always.

Mr_X
21st July 2012, 08:22
Would your parents not take the points for you?

L33h
21st July 2012, 11:19
Would your parents not take the points for you?

in a works van? haha

my mam had to take points for me when i passed haha

Zander123
22nd July 2012, 00:06
get some one in your work or a friend there must be someone to take the points for 300 quid there will be someone in your work with nil points a lot of people will take thouse points for cash mate

Mr_X
6th August 2012, 19:32
Soooo, what happened??

Saxologist
6th August 2012, 22:45
Right, funnily enough I haven't been active on here for a while as been on holiday and moved house.

I went to my Head of Personnel and asked him if he could ring Citroen and ask if they'd received anything, which they had. Now waiting for the police to write to my company then to me personally so will be about 3 weeks (ish)

I'm hoping it'll just be a course, otherwise I'll get revoked, which means I need to start from scratch again. Do i keep my no claims? Or as its a 'new' liscense I'll start from scratch and just say on insurance I've been revoked. But I haven't had any accidents or gotten any bad habits (except speeding) so I should hopefully have no problem passing again. So at maximum I'll be without driving for 2-3 months (hoping I snatch a cancellation) which my company has already said is tolerable as I'm still training and don't need to go by myself, otherwise they'd effectively losing money, be one of them sit down talks I'd think.


I can't ask anyone to take them as I've only worked there 3 months and that's illegal and get all involved in deep shit.


Also, on my phone so I have this bracket I couldn't delete >)

DreamEater
6th August 2012, 23:13
Right, funnily enough I haven't been active on here for a while as been on holiday and moved house.

I went to my Head of Personnel and asked him if he could ring Citroen and ask if they'd received anything, which they had. Now waiting for the police to write to my company then to me personally so will be about 3 weeks (ish)

I'm hoping it'll just be a course, otherwise I'll get revoked, which means I need to start from scratch again. Do i keep my no claims? Or as its a 'new' liscense I'll start from scratch and just say on insurance I've been revoked. But I haven't had any accidents or gotten any bad habits (except speeding) so I should hopefully have no problem passing again. So at maximum I'll be without driving for 2-3 months (hoping I snatch a cancellation) which my company has already said is tolerable as I'm still training and don't need to go by myself, otherwise they'd effectively losing money, be one of them sit down talks I'd think.


I can't ask anyone to take them as I've only worked there 3 months and that's illegal and get all involved in deep shit.


Also, on my phone so I have this bracket I couldn't delete >)

Are Citroen not invoicing you a million pounds to forward the letter on?

Last company I worked for charged £75 admin fees, as they claimed the lease company charged them that to forward on speeding fines and parking tickets. Cunts.

rey
7th August 2012, 06:41
It won't take 3 months to resit. Your within two years so your theory should still be valid.

Just get a cancellation. Should take 2 weeks tops.

Saxovch22
7th August 2012, 06:55
It won't take 3 months to resit. Your within two years so your theory should still be valid.

Just get a cancellation. Should take 2 weeks tops.

No he needs to resit BOTH tests....
I've been there done that

Have to pay for another provisional aswell which is shocking!
Iirc I got my provisional in April did my theory start of May and then repassed my test on the 3rd Of June

rey
7th August 2012, 07:03
Hrmm, Im sure when my brother did it his theory was in date?

Either way, it can be done within two weeks.

Saxologist
7th August 2012, 15:24
I need to wait for them to revoke it first before sending off for a new one as they can take a while to come through, once I have provisional my work will let me use my unclaimed holiday to take my tests whenever

sam_16v
7th August 2012, 15:30
if they revoke your licence you will have to do theory plus d test again i got 9 points within 2 years and had to retake both but when i got my licence back it was still valid from first time i passed so you wont be a new driver :y:

Giraffe
7th August 2012, 15:34
if they revoke your licence you will have to do theory plus d test again i got 9 points within 2 years and had to retake both but when i got my licence back it was still valid from first time i passed so you wont be a new driver :y:

What's a D test?

sam_16v
7th August 2012, 15:41
driving test :homme:

Giraffe
7th August 2012, 15:59
driving test :homme:

Of course it is

Ross
7th August 2012, 17:50
Of course it is

In the words of Clarkson, "I don't see it as a test. More as a confirmation of my excellence."

Saxologist
7th August 2012, 18:26
If it gets revoked, and I pass the tests again, do I still have the 6 points? Do I start the 2 years probation again?

I heard even when you pass you have to be supervised?

Can someone tell me everything what'll happen and what I need to do?

Regards

Ross
7th August 2012, 19:01
Whoops. Thought it was the other thread. Ignore me!

Saxologist
7th August 2012, 19:12
Whoops. Thought it was the other thread. Ignore me!

I've just subbed and read the email and thought, oh dear christ. lol

*heart attack*

Ross
7th August 2012, 19:14
Lol sorry buddy! The other guy is in a far worse situation than you !

Saxologist
7th August 2012, 19:15
Well, thats alright then, nice to know someone is in a worse prediciment then me, any comments for this thread? :)

Saxologist
9th August 2012, 20:03
Update: Today at work I got called into the head of personnels office to which he showed me the letter from the police, saying I'd been snapped doing 72mph on the A21. With the form was a page about the speed awareness course.

I didn't get this before so guess I wasn't eligable, would me having my licence under 2 years, 3 points already and being so little over make it me elligable?

L33h
9th August 2012, 20:10
Was it the form where you have to say if it was you or not?

I would have thought youd have to admit it was you and theyd send a fine / course offer to your door not work?

And I'm sure it doesnt matter how long youve had your licence

rey
9th August 2012, 20:14
It's because you're so little over!

Take the course, best option by far.

rey
9th August 2012, 20:15
Über gash double post

Saxologist
9th August 2012, 20:16
It was the one from the police asking to name the driver.

It went to citroen then to my work
And it went to work because its a fleet vechile, we're all insured to drive any vechile. So no 'named driver'

L33h
9th August 2012, 20:18
Yea same as my work. Youll have to admit it was you then you might get a offer of a course at your house.

Saxologist
14th August 2012, 18:57
Any other views?

blackie_2k5
14th August 2012, 19:02
pay someone to take them...give them £300 and offer to pay the fine

youll have your license revoked....you wont be eligible for the course if your under 2 years and have 3 points

blackie_2k5
14th August 2012, 19:02
itll still work out cheaper for you

edit...saying that, they wont even get the points if the course is there..just you wont get the course

Saxologist
14th August 2012, 19:09
My details have already been sent off. So I cant get the course as I'm still in my "probational" period?

http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-369768.html?

Ryanoo
14th August 2012, 20:35
My mate got caught speeding in his driving lesson 34 in a 30 lol... He got sent on the course for it, said he just sat in a room nearly falling asleep for the duration of it.

lwigmore
14th August 2012, 23:38
My details have already been sent off. So I cant get the course as I'm still in my "probational" period?

http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-369768.html?

what the hell do corsa owners know anyway?

blackie_2k5
15th August 2012, 07:50
Afaik you get twice you lose license

May have changed since they introduced the speed awareness, but I wouldn't hold your breath, will depend on how much of a cock the person who deals with it is

Keep us updated as id like to know the outcome

Saxologist
24th August 2012, 17:07
Today I have recieved the NIP addressed to me, which included another of the 'Speed Awareness course' pages, they know it was me, they are asking me to confirm.

It says:
The offence fits the criteria which would normally qualify for the offer of the speed awareness course, places are limited and must act quickly. If I was the driver I should return the form without delay. Drivers attending will not recieve points etc

This is not a formal offer of a course, but merely advising you that if the driver is identified quickly an offer would normally be made. Formal offers will not be made if there is a delay in identifying the driver.

If you were the driver at the time of this alleged offence and would like to go on the course instead of recieving a fine and penalty points, you are advised to act quickly


So... Does this mean i'll get the course?

logic_guy
24th August 2012, 17:28
It looks like their offering the course to you, but also saying you shouldn't get your hopes up.

DreamEater
24th August 2012, 17:30
Today I have recieved the NIP addressed to me, which included another of the 'Speed Awareness course' pages, they know it was me, they are asking me to confirm.

It says:
The offence fits the criteria which would normally qualify for the offer of the speed awareness course, places are limited and must act quickly. If I was the driver I should return the form without delay. Drivers attending will not recieve points etc

This is not a formal offer of a course, but merely advising you that if the driver is identified quickly an offer would normally be made. Formal offers will not be made if there is a delay in identifying the driver.

If you were the driver at the time of this alleged offence and would like to go on the course instead of recieving a fine and penalty points, you are advised to act quickly


So... Does this mean i'll get the course?

Read the letter again.

It says you won't get the course if you spend your life asking questions on a forum, but, if you act quickly like the form says a few times, you /might/ get the course.

You took a risk speeding, so take a risk in sending it back fast. Royal Mail 1st Class Recorded, or special delivery before 9am.

Saxologist
24th August 2012, 17:37
Read the letter again.

It says you won't get the course if you spend your life asking questions on a forum, but, if you act quickly like the form says a few times, you /might/ get the course.

You took a risk speeding, so take a risk in sending it back fast. Royal Mail 1st Class Recorded, or special delivery before 9am.

Post office is shut, and if posted tomorrow, no post on sundays, so would be monday the earliest

logic_guy
24th August 2012, 17:39
Post office is shut, and if posted tomorrow, no post on sundays, so would be monday the earliest

Bank Holiday y0

Edit. Go to the post office 8am tomorrow morning and get it sent the Same day.

DreamEater
24th August 2012, 17:39
Post office is shut, and if posted tomorrow, no post on sundays, so would be monday the earliest

But if you posted it tomorrow it would go through the system and most likely arrive Monday.

Pull your finger out and do it, or else you could be fucked over financially for ages!

Saxologist
7th September 2012, 18:37
Just got another letter from the Police, I got the speed awareness course!

logic_guy
7th September 2012, 18:39
I just dialled a number but there wasn't a answer the other end. What do I do?

Saxologist
7th September 2012, 18:39
Keep in contact more often?

DUFC
7th September 2012, 18:42
Lucky mate, im in same situation, i have 6 points, passed my test last year, one more point iv to resit.

logic_guy
7th September 2012, 18:43
Not necessary the answer. I don't like the lady on the Answer phone.

iVTR
7th September 2012, 19:20
Lucky mate, im in same situation, i have 6 points, passed my test last year, one more point iv to resit.

I thought 6 points was it?

6 points in the first 2 years and that's it , your done for.

Not 7 points is it :/

?

blackie_2k5
7th September 2012, 19:23
lucky <person>!!


i was just thinking of this the other day!

Chris_
7th September 2012, 19:30
If you get 6 points in the first 2 years of driving you get banned.

Rogue_Shadow
7th September 2012, 19:56
Lucky SOB :y:

Next time your driving along, in a 30 zone and you see your needle just below 34 ...
Think of this thread and how lucky you were :A:
Bet you were bricking it opening that envelope :fcuk:

DUFC
7th September 2012, 21:55
I thought 6 points was it?

6 points in the first 2 years and that's it , your done for.

Not 7 points is it :/

?

If you get 6 points in the first 2 years of driving you get banned.

I got them on a provisional, therefore it carrys on to a full licence.

Chris_
7th September 2012, 23:24
I got them on a provisional, therefore it carrys on to a full licence.

Yeah, that's true. Didn't see that you mentioned that.

Manu
8th September 2012, 06:09
I just dialled a number but there wasn't a answer the other end. What do I do?

call during office hours duh

Terryvtr1
8th September 2012, 08:11
i was told if then van has no back windows its restricted to 50mph on any type or road but dont hold me to it

Saxologist
8th September 2012, 15:41
An angel must be smiling down at me tbh

I was at work at the time and my flatmate had said it had arrived, I got him to open it and tell me the outcome. The location for the course is at an all girls school (sixth form) so shouldnt be a bad day out.

I've learnt my speeding lesson, as I was touching cloth all the time I was not knowing. If I bop over, I usually react and slow down now.

MuZiZZle
8th September 2012, 16:45
I drive with my tomtom on now

It makes an annoying bing if I speed

DUFC
8th September 2012, 16:46
tbh iv went past camera vans convinced that iv been over the limit. but never heard a thing. in Scotland they don't offer speed awareness courses. so I think there's a bit of leniency. As I have never heard of anyone getting done with being 10 mph or under the speed limit up here. but in England its the norm

Saxologist
9th September 2012, 09:36
I was 12mph over, did 72 in a van (restricted to 60 on an A road)

DeanAngell1234
9th September 2012, 10:55
Glad you got on the course mate, would have been crap if you lost your job!