Race PREPPING SAXO

[DavidTaylor]

Ok well as i cant post in the track/motorsport section until my account matures i thought i would post here an update of my cars progress as stated in my last thread that everyone got there knickers in a twist about :D so pics below will tell the story.

Original Look of car
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165650590160281&set=a.111037552288252.8027.100001460224826&type=3&theater

Now moddifications

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165650590160281&set=a.111037552288252.8027.100001460224826&type=3&theater

Back to standard

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=395223513869653&set=a.365039666888038.84030.100001460224826&type=3&theater

Roof has now been welded with 2mm steel (roof warped after weld) :(

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=397754596949878&set=a.365039666888038.84030.100001460224826&type=3&theater

Car stripped out and race seat being prepared to be welded in.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=397754483616556&set=a.365039666888038.84030.100001460224826&type=3&theater

Now if any of you wish to help that stays near Dundee or Knockhill i organised alot of trackdays would be good if some of you can meet up and have abit of banter :D

Thanks

David

[Manu]

wrong section http://www.saxperience.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=19

then

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as stated in my last thread that everyone got there knickers in a twist about

what last thread?

[DavidTaylor]

It got deleted because there was bullying and lots of swearing going on lol

[Mr_X]

probably wouldnt link to facebook tbh.

Fair play for staying here :y:

[DavidTaylor]

how not it wont let me upload pics

[Pitbull69]

Go to photo bucket and upload all pics there, then copy them img codes from each one and put them on here, your Facebook links don't work

[DavidTaylor]

Does image shack work and thanks for letting me know that Pitbull

[Pitbull69]

yes image shack will work, but I find with image shack every now and then it deletes pictures or they become unavailable at times..

[devilsadvocate]

Use imageshack or photobucket, there is even an app to do it straight from a smartphone.

Also, there's a progress thread section for these.

[Mr_X]

image shack is shite imo photobucket is far better

[Manu]

It got deleted because there was bullying and lots of swearing going on lol

Hahaha, welcome to saxperience. Since you're new, I'll break it down for you: abuse on these forums is never addressed properly or dealt with, the mods will just delete. On here, there's lots of e-warriors with the IQ of a lettuce but I'm sure you have noticed already.

For the record:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oerjrse6NwY

[DavidTaylor]

2nd time lucky :D Ok well as i cant post in the track/motorsport section until my account matures i thought i would post here an update of my cars progress as stated in my last thread that everyone got there knickers in a twist about so pics below will tell the story.

Original Look of car

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1461/21631716565059016028118.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-21

Now moddifications

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5334/23026716811844658016213.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-21

Back to standard

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7940/stanz.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-21

Roof has now been welded with 2mm steel (roof warped after weld)

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/7727/31162439775459694987878.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-21

Car stripped out and race seat being prepared to be welded in.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4025/saxoseat.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-21

Now if any of you wish to help that stays near Dundee or Knockhill i organised alot of trackdays would be good if some of you can meet up and have abit of banter

Thanks

David

[DavidTaylor]

Hahaha, welcome to saxperience. Since you're new, I'll break it down for you: abuse on these forums is never addressed properly or dealt with, the mods will just delete. On here, there's lots of e-warriors with the IQ of a lettuce but I'm sure you have noticed already.

For the record:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oerjrse6NwY

Yup there little children that sit behind a keyboard giving it large.

I did ask admin to delete it as it started to get personal

[Manu]

Avoid posting in the evenings, that's when all the drunktards, crack, pot and roid heads come back in force. Mornings are usually very quiet as all the culprits are still nursing their mutual hangovers.

[DavidTaylor]

Avoid posting in the evenings, that's when all the drunktards, crack, pot and roid heads come back in force. Mornings are usually very quiet as all the culprits are still nursing their mutual hangovers.

PMSL ok back to the subject hahaha! :)

[Manu]

Sorry heheh. Nice car, thank fuck you got rid of the barry look.

[DavidTaylor]

Sorry heheh. Nice car, thank fuck you got rid of the barry look.

LOL needed to buy new skirts and door panels as the old one's were shagged with tigerseal with the bodykit LOL

[Manu]

typical, these kits are cheap fiberglass shite. They'll crack under wind pressure.

[DavidTaylor]

typical, these kits are cheap fiberglass shite. They'll crack under wind pressure.


Yea even bad when there tigersealed to plastic pannels. LOL

[Prickle]

Well its a start. LOL.

[slimwiltaz]

good luck with this :y:

[DavidTaylor]

Thanks Slim :D

[D1zzyman]

im surprised you even came back on here after the last thread, good luck with prepping your saxo :y:

[DavidTaylor]

im surprised you even came back on here after the last thread, good luck with prepping your saxo :y:

Thanks Dizzy im not that easily offended and i don't give up easily either. :)

[saxova]

Glad you took the kit off!

good luck with the project.. spend your 10k wisely l0l0l

[jayline]

good luck with this! get a spec up of what you want to have done mate! interested in what your going for!

[slimwiltaz]

Thanks Slim :D
hey, no probs
good luck with this! get a spec up of what you want to have done mate! interested in what your going for!

+1 to this, any performance done yet?

[greyjasper51]

Would be there to help but live in essex and iys a fu*%ing lot of work aint it.... I know im doing the same atm... As i sit here de stressing from bonnet pins im building mine now cage is comming next week have a look at my progress thread if you need help...

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[DavidTaylor]

Would be there to help but live in essex and iys a fu*%ing lot of work aint it.... I know im doing the same atm... As i sit here de stressing from bonnet pins im building mine now cage is comming next week have a look at my progress thread if you need help...

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Cheers guys to all above that have commented yea engine mods will be done at the end still got cage and suspension to do i am at knockhill on the 19th august hoping to speak to Shane Lynch of Prestige Wrap & Customs (Ex Boyzone) so hope i have a fruitful day its also a track day so will test my car out while i'm there :D

[Mr_X]

Are you still looking at competitive races? or just track days for time being?

[DavidTaylor]

Needing some one to design a helmet and professionally spray it for me any ideas also? :S

[Mochachino]

What races are you preparing your car for?

[DavidTaylor]

Building it to class a 750 stockhatch but in the meantime it will be used to test on trackdays. :)

[DavidTaylor]

Every1 decided to go quite! :)

[dondan]

They are probably just rising up to the surface in the sea of bullshit to get a breath :).

[DavidTaylor]

They are probably just rising up to the surface in the sea of bullshit to get a breath :).

HAHAHA yea need sum irn bru after this weekend. :)

[DavidTaylor]

Picking car up today so will post a link to a video on youtube as im going to create an account to do a step by step video diary :)

[DavidTaylor]

Picking car up today so will post a link to a video on youtube as im going to create an account to do a step by step video diary :)


Chinese STARTER BUTTON :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VMIckFu6cQ&feature=youtu.be

[Lewis1600]

Cheers guys to all above that have commented yea engine mods will be done at the end still got cage and suspension to do i am at knockhill on the 19th august hoping to speak to Shane Lynch of Prestige Wrap & Customs (Ex Boyzone) so hope i have a fruitful day its also a track day so will test my car out while i'm there :D

Didnt know Shane lynch was doing that.

I thought he just drove for Japspeed.

P.s I thought the bodykit was off?

[DavidTaylor]

Didnt know Shane lynch was doing that.

I thought he just drove for Japspeed.

P.s I thought the bodykit was off?

It is off lol this vid was taken before i removed that last part the front bumper lol and Shane is doing a demo drift at Knockhill on the 19th

Thanks

[DavidTaylor]

add me on f.b to keep up2date with all going on's

http://www.facebook.com/david.piggot

[greyjasper51]

add me on f.b to keep up2date with all going on's

http://www.facebook.com/david.piggot

Why dont you post it in the progress area?
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[DavidTaylor]

Why dont you post it in the progress area? Spam away in general chat and play games thatll get your post count up then knock yourself out :-)

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I will just bide my time :D

[MuZiZZle]

Nightmare about the roof, I'd just get a non sunroof skin put on dude!

Also I'd bin the starter button, if anything you want the ability to kill the electrics, not something with the ability to start things!

[DavidTaylor]

Nightmare about the roof, I'd just get a non sunroof skin put on dude!

Also I'd bin the starter button, if anything you want the ability to kill the electrics, not something with the ability to start things!

LOL it wont start without the key anyway!

[MuZiZZle]

LOL it wont start without the key anyway!


but when you're upside down on track with fuel pouring into the inside of the car, I think they'd be happier with a kill switch, rather than a random chinese start button? :y:

[DavidTaylor]

but when you're upside down on track with fuel pouring into the inside of the car, I think they'd be happier with a kill switch, rather than a random chinese start button? :y:

LOL i wont be on my roof i can asure you. :D

[MuZiZZle]

LOL i wont be on my roof i can asure you. :D

If there's no risk of roofing it, you're not trying hard enough!

seriously though, I'd take it straight out and put a kill switch in, wont you have to anyway for the regs?

[greyjasper51]

Yeah FIA approved kill switch for battery, ignition and fuel pump...

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[Jungle]

here we go, greatest driver the world has ever seen Yo

[KamRacing]

Nightmare about the roof, I'd just get a non sunroof skin put on dude!

Also I'd bin the starter button, if anything you want the ability to kill the electrics, not something with the ability to start things!

You would need to have both. Nothing wrong with an electronic version of a kill switch but it will be on the outside of the car so marshalls can get to it.

[greyjasper51]

You would need to have both. Nothing wrong with an electronic version of a kill switch but it will be on the outside of the car so marshalls can get to it.

Generally a pull cord attatched to the kill inside of the car mate, same as the fire extinguisher

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[Ross]

LOL i wont be on my roof i can asure you. :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/2475604672_bb439f2a8b.jpg

Silly noobs. Colin McRae and Nicky Grist... You show em boss!

[MuZiZZle]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/2475604672_bb439f2a8b.jpg

Silly noobs. Colin McRae and Nicky Grist... You show em boss!

I bet that landed on its wheels man!

[Ross]

I bet that landed on its wheels man!

With Colin driving, he'd probably be able to drive it on it's roof anyway :D

[DavidTaylor]

Guys i know i have to have kill switches im getting there with the build here is the car back
with roof done and seat welded into position.I will check about a skin for roof further down the line.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/680/tiptop.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-23

[moxy89]

high five to the shittest seat on the market

[greyjasper51]

What cage you going for? What ecu you going for? What suspension you going for?

I love how your getting so many different comments from different people in your thread... Lol

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[DavidTaylor]

high five to the shittest seat on the market

Shittest seat how is that its a towel over a band new sparco seat you moron.

[DavidTaylor]

What cage you going for? What ecu you going for? What suspension you going for?

I love how your getting so many different comments from different people in your thread... Lol

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Ta Technicks (Suspension Coilovers)
OMP 6point (Cage)
Dont know about ECU yet.

[MuZiZZle]

Ta Technicks (Suspension Coilovers)
OMP 6point (Cage)
Dont know about ECU yet.

Dude, is that the £199 suspension from eBay?!?

[stokesy]

Didn't mean to click 'thanks' stupid iPhone!!
Get up a spec list, well what it'll be at when you've finished

[jones91]

Don't go for ta technix suspension, they are practically the worst suspension on the market

[moxy89]

Shittest seat how is that its a towel over a band new sparco seat you moron.

can see this is going to be a shite build, not being funny if you go to use it properly you wouldnt be using a sparco sprint bucket that is £100, there awful. TA suspension that will handle well, good luck your come last and your all out that shit seat and your suspension will fall off.

kthanxbai

[DavidTaylor]

Dude, is that the £199 suspension from eBay?!?

No! Mate

[DavidTaylor]

can see this is going to be a shite build, not being funny if you go to use it properly you wouldnt be using a sparco sprint bucket that is £100, there awful. TA suspension that will handle well, good luck your come last and your all out that shit seat and your suspension will fall off.

kthanxbai


Do 1 don't need your critisasm

[MuZiZZle]

No! Mate

Are you sure?

Check eBay, they're supposed to be very bouncy on light cars

Personally I'd not even drive round the doors on them, let alone track on them

[DavidTaylor]

Are you sure?

Check eBay, they're supposed to be very bouncy on light cars

Personally I'd not even drive round the doors on them, let alone track on them

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/selection-of-brand-new-coilovers-306-xsara-bora-golf-toledojetta-leon-passat-a4-audi-saxo/96217717

[MuZiZZle]

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/selection-of-brand-new-coilovers-306-xsara-bora-golf-toledojetta-leon-passat-a4-audi-saxo/96217717

Sweet lord dude, please don't track on them!!!

I appreciate you seem to be doing it on a budget, but use good parts!

Get a premium membership and get into the sales section! Bargains to be had

Check alanpones thread for doing it on the cheap

[Lewis1600]

Dude, is that the £199 suspension from eBay?!?

''No! mate'', its the £190 suspension from gumtree..

Get it right!

sarcy btw....=)

[DavidTaylor]

Sweet lord dude, please don't track on them!!!

I appreciate you seem to be doing it on a budget, but use good parts!

Get a premium membership and get into the sales section! Bargains to be had

Check alanpones thread for doing it on the cheap

Send me the link to his thread please.

Thanks

[DavidTaylor]

''No! mate'', its the £190 suspension from gumtree..

Get it right!

sarcy btw....=)

LOL that made me laugh! D:

[Dave_P]

Building it to class a 750 stockhatch but in the meantime it will be used to test on trackdays. :)

Are you intending competing in the stock hatch series then?

Have you looked into the costs involved in competing in an English based race series?

Its not cheap i'll tell ya!

[Mochachino]

Is anyone else thinking this is another one of those chav 'track look' cars to be used at retail park cruises? Please prove me wrong.

[DavidTaylor]

Is anyone else thinking this is another one of those chav 'track look' cars to be used at retail park cruises? Please prove me wrong.

Excuse me!

[DavidTaylor]

Are you intending competing in the stock hatch series then?

Have you looked into the costs involved in competing in an English based race series?

Its not cheap i'll tell ya!

Yes i am looking around the 15k -20k mark just to have a competitive build.

[Mochachino]

Yes i am looking around the 15k -20k mark just to have a competitive build.

On the actual car? :S yet you bought £180 ebay specials coilovers.

I don't think you have actually looked into this have you.

[Dave_P]

Yes i am looking around the 15k -20k mark just to have a competitive build.

It wont cost that much to build a stock hatch!

If you intend competing in the s/h series i'd suggest you buy an existing car it'll save you a fortune.

[Mochachino]

It wont cost that much to build a stock hatch!

If you intend competing in the s/h series i'd suggest you buy an existing car it'll save you a fortune.

haha stock hatch he could probably build a car for about £3k

Suppose you need alot of replacement ebay special coilovers though, so that would take up a large budget.

Edit: £5k ish realistically.

[DavidTaylor]

It wont cost that much to build a stock hatch!

If you intend competing in the s/h series i'd suggest you buy an existing car it'll save you a fortune.


In total about 15k with car build and entrance fees!

[DavidTaylor]

haha stock hatch he could probably build a car for about £3k

Suppose you need alot of replacement ebay special coilovers though, so that would take up a large budget.

Edit: £5k ish realistically.


Mate why dont you go buy a vtr instead you have a shitty 1.1 so dont cry to me about what i have and dont have no one has said i have bought these coilovers i was just thinking about it now piss off you e-warrior

[Dave_P]

Do yourself a favour...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4070131.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3978855.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3962055.htm

If you decide travelling to England every few weeks a bit steep you could try doing Scottish speed events. (sprints & hillclimbs)

Your nearest event would probably be Doune hillclimb. (see my sig)

[Mochachino]

Mate why dont you go buy a vtr instead you have a shitty 1.1 so dont cry to me about what i have and dont have no one has said i have bought these coilovers i was just thinking about it now piss off you e-warrior

My '1.1' will walk all over your VTR :y:

I'm really confused with everything though.

You said you are budgeting 15k on JUST a competitive build, then when questions its £15k with entrance fees etc.

You are were looking at ebay special coilovers too.

Also you get pissy over tiny things that aint even pissy worthy, if you are doing this properly I dont think you would take this attitude towards people and instead laugh at them doubting you.

[DavidTaylor]

My '1.1' will walk all over your VTR :y:

I'm really confused with everything though.

You said you are budgeting 15k on JUST a competitive build, then when questions its £15k with entrance fees etc.

You are were looking at ebay special coilovers too.

Also you get pissy over tiny things that aint even pissy worthy, if you are doing this properly I dont think you would take this attitude towards people and instead laugh at them doubting you.

:afro::y::panic::n::wall::boxing:

[Gandi699]

That white XSi looks like a right bargain.

[MuZiZZle]

Mate why dont you go buy a vtr instead you have a shitty 1.1 so dont cry to me about what i have and dont have no one has said i have bought these coilovers i was just thinking about it now piss off you e-warrior

In your face Mocha!

His VTR would be all over your 1.1, but probably not your Type R Integra, and I'm 50/50 on your huge merc!

You got schooled son!

[Ross]

Do yourself a favour...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3978855.htm

This is an epic spec for the money. Job done.

[greyjasper51]

Stock hatches can cost 15k to build to be fair... But alot higher spec than that... Ledas all round custom cages weld the cage in... Thats abot 3k including vat and it just adds up... Mine aint gonna be that and before anyone says about buying one i dont have the initial outlay on 5k to hand... And i know what my one will be about not a hidden jem like the shells twisted of engines on its last legs... Plus want to build it, enjoy doing it :-)

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[Jungle]

hahahahahahahaha keep it up pal. Why don't you just chop your springs? Save yourself £200 and do the same job!

[MuZiZZle]

This is an epic spec for the money. Job done.


Christ, what a bargain

[DavidTaylor]

hahahahahahahaha keep it up pal. Why don't you just chop your springs? Save yourself £200 and do the same job!

its cool im not in any hurry i will take my time.

[greyjasper51]

Dont forget march is the first race and theres alotta work to be done mate... Youll be supprised!!

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[Dano]

I havent read most of these threads started by david, but fair play to him, all i see is him trying to build a car, do a few races, and learn something new along the way, and as the most part, he seems to take the banter on the chin, of course he will snap back now again coz all hes getting is abuse.

so he gets a few bits wrong, people are quick enough to jump on him and call him names, without suggestions on how it will actually help him

no wonder people get pissed off with saxp

Dave p has done the best option and find cars ready built for sale!!

I hope this works out for the best, i have no knowledge in motorsport, and very basic mechanical know-how.. but id love to learn sometime and would be happy to lend a hand if i was ever local to you

Good luck anyways :y:

[greyjasper51]

I havent read most of these threads started by david, but fair play to him, all i see is him trying to build a car, do a few races, and learn something new along the way, and as the most part, he seems to take the banter on the chin, of course he will snap back now again coz all hes getting is abuse.

so he gets a few bits wrong, people are quick enough to jump on him and call him names, without suggestions on how it will actually help him

no wonder people get pissed off with saxp

Dave p has done the best option and find cars ready built for sale!!

I hope this works out for the best, i have no knowledge in motorsport, and very basic mechanical know-how.. but id love to learn sometime and would be happy to lend a hand if i was ever local to you

Good luck anyways :y:

Correct yeah, i shouldnt say this but hes getting alot of... Erm... Press on this and a few threads down mines got nothing... DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN START HATING...

Dave have you been to any of the meetings? Im next at donny come along if you can and well have a chat... Cant be fairer than that...

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[KamRacing]

Follow daves advice. Sell this car and buy a stock hatch already made. They are cheap for the spec you get and will be 5-10 seconds a lap faster than a car with TA Technics coilovers. TA Technics are cheap arse road suspension. They are not designed for the track, are heavy, softly spung and unable to take the abuse a dedicated race car will dish out. You will be running yoko ao48's or similar and will have so much bodyroll you will have to back off on corners while competitors are nailing it round. Go too fast and you will end up on two wheels or on your roof.

Sometimes you have to step back and look at the long term goal and financial cost. Those cars are a bargain. Add up what you will spend and then look at what these have fitted and you will see these are a better base to work from.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4070131.htm

Thats my favourite. Look how many spare tyres you get! Its going to be a well setup car and fast out the box. It gets you driving quicker too as well as saving you a small fortune.
Not everyone gets it right first time but be prepared to swallow your pride and change the plan. I'll hold my hands up and admit even I've done it. I changed plan and spent a few seasons karting instead of building an expensive car.

[Ross]

these have fitted and you will see these are a better base to work from.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4070131.htm

Thats my favourite. Look how many spare tyres you get! Its going to be a well setup car and fast out the box. It gets you driving quicker too as well as saving you a small fortune.
I'm pleased we agree - my favourite too! Such a lot for the money. Probably sold already mind you...

Even though it's a road car, I've changed my mind and spec so many times it's unreal - it only costs in time and money - both of which you have in short supply! Do it once, do it right :)

[DavidTaylor]

[QUOTE=Dano_vT;6035562]I havent read most of these threads started by david, but fair play to him, all i see is him trying to build a car, do a few races, and learn something new along the way, and as the most part, he seems to take the banter on the chin, of course he will snap back now again coz all hes getting is abuse.

so he gets a few bits wrong, people are quick enough to jump on him and call him names, without suggestions on how it will actually help him

no wonder people get pissed off with saxp

Dave p has done the best option and find cars ready built for sale!!

I hope this works out for the best, i have no knowledge in motorsport, and very basic mechanical know-how.. but id love to learn sometime and would be happy to lend a hand if i was ever local to you

Good luck anyways :y:[/QUOTE

VERY TRUE THERE BUT IF I HAD THE CASH ON HAND I WOULDN'T THINK TWICE ABOUT BUYING A READY PREPPED CAR THATS WHY I AM DOING THIS PIECE BY PIECE

THANKS

[DavidTaylor]

follow daves advice. Sell this car and buy a stock hatch already made. They are cheap for the spec you get and will be 5-10 seconds a lap faster than a car with ta technics coilovers. Ta technics are cheap arse road suspension. They are not designed for the track, are heavy, softly spung and unable to take the abuse a dedicated race car will dish out. You will be running yoko ao48's or similar and will have so much bodyroll you will have to back off on corners while competitors are nailing it round. Go too fast and you will end up on two wheels or on your roof.

Sometimes you have to step back and look at the long term goal and financial cost. Those cars are a bargain. Add up what you will spend and then look at what these have fitted and you will see these are a better base to work from.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4070131.htm

thats my favourite. Look how many spare tyres you get! Its going to be a well setup car and fast out the box. It gets you driving quicker too as well as saving you a small fortune.
Not everyone gets it right first time but be prepared to swallow your pride and change the plan. I'll hold my hands up and admit even i've done it. I changed plan and spent a few seasons karting instead of building an expensive car.

yea i totally understand but i dont have £3499 to hand or else i would have done this as i stated in my last thread im looking for a job to help fund this and some local people i know to lend a hand just need to speak to the right people and get this done :)

[Sam]

VERY TRUE THERE BUT IF I HAD THE CASH ON HAND I WOULDN'T THINK TWICE ABOUT BUYING A READY PREPPED CAR THATS WHY I AM DOING THIS PIECE BY PIECE

THANKS

yea i totally understand but i dont have £3499 to hand or else i would have done this as i stated in my last thread im looking for a job to help fund this and some local people i know to lend a hand just need to speak to the right people and get this done :)

Good luck with the build, but im 99% sure you said in another thread (Gen Chat) that you had 10k Sponsorship? Or was that just BS?

[Dave_P]

I think you might be better doing something closer to home b4 you contemplate competing in an English based series, SMRC class C or D is for cars up to 1600cc...

That might be worth a look first?

If you do have £10k sponsorship buy one of the cars mentioned previously, do your ARDS & hit the track!

[DavidTaylor]

I think you might be better doing something closer to home b4 you contemplate competing in an English based series, SMRC class C or D is for cars up to 1600cc...

That might be worth a look first?

If you do have £10k sponsorship buy one of the cars mentioned previously, do your ARDS & hit the track!

I will keep you all posted i only came on here to see if peeps want to help build this and possibly start a team.

[Ross]

So what's the crack with your sponsorship David? How's the financial side of things? You getting £10k of parts from the sponsor or cash or...?

[Jungle]

yea i totally understand but i dont have £3499 to hand or else i would have done this as i stated in my last thread im looking for a job to help fund this and some local people i know to lend a hand just need to speak to the right people and get this done :)

So your budget is 20k but you can't afford to spend 3.5k on a car. This is like when someone goes on dragons den and doesn't know their own numbers!

[MuZiZZle]

Motorsport is not a poor mans game to be honest David, when I worked for the NHS , the regional IT director raced a 924 in some sort of league and it cost him too much money.

[Dave_P]

Most of my £ goes on diesel for going to & from events... anyone want to sponsor me? :hug:

Currently 8th o/a in the MSA Leaders hillclimb c'ship and leading my class (C2).

http://www.britishhillclimb.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Leaders-Entrants-points-table-2012.pdf

[DavidTaylor]

Ok still going off thread and talking about previouse thread but never mind see you guys on track "sometime"! :)

[DavidTaylor]

Also guys if you can be helpful where the hell to i find a video on how to remove rear axle or would anyone politly give me the pointers i know there is 4 bolts to be removed and that it should be piss easy to do just wondering if i can do it?

Cheers

[Ross]

Yes it's piss easy. Get a mate to help and ideally a 4 post ramp.

[Fatboi168]

Also guys if you can be helpful where the hell to i find a video on how to remove rear axle or would anyone politly give me the pointers i know there is 4 bolts to be removed and that it should be piss easy to do just wondering if i can do it?

Cheers

Easy mate put on ramp or axle stands, take handbrake cable out bottom, (both sides), loosen all 4 bolts(i put 2 spare tyres under hubs) take bolts out and let drop into tyres rather simple tbh

[Dave_P]

You forgot to mention the brake pipes...

[MuZiZZle]

What are you wanting to do to the axle?

change it?
refurb it?
do the bushes?

[Fatboi168]

You forgot to mention the brake pipes...

Indeed i did, there are 2 brake pipes on passanger side above the radious arm both 11mm sized spanner if i recall

[DavidTaylor]

its cool guys brand new axle on its way to me :D and just bought these bad boys :D


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400307831768?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

[AndySAXO]

its cool guys brand new axle on its way to me :D and just bought these bad boys :D


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400307831768?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

i wouldnt use these on a road car let alone a race car.

[Prickle]

I would of saved abit more and went with gaz coilovers or something. Its what il be doing anyway.

I dont think ive read anything good about the ones in that link.

[MuZiZZle]

How strange, if you type "saxo upside down" into google images, it brings up this:

http://ats.midnightrock.eu/img/a_rockers_guide_to_the_galaxy_.jpg

Hrmmmmmmmm

[RyanSaxo]

can't tell if the previous post with a link to ebay special coilovers for a race car is trolling?

(cba to read the full thread but assumed he knew a little bit about suspension etc)

[MuZiZZle]

can't tell if the previous post with a link to ebay special coilovers for a race car is trolling?

(cba to read the full thread but assumed he knew a little bit about suspension etc)

sadly not dude, he seems to basically be doing everything on the super cheap, then complaining when we tell him not to do it on the cheap!

[Ross]

its cool guys brand new axle on its way to me :D and just bought these bad boys :D


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400307831768?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

David, you've repeatedly been told (after requesting advice) to save up a little longer, and buy quality products. You've been told this by experienced owners, race drivers, and performance component suppliers.

Now you've ignored all that advice and bought the cheapest nastiest set of ebay crap you can find - contrary to all the advice you received. I just don't understand what it is you're trying to achieve... :wall:

[Dave_P]

I have to agree with Ross.

David, your going about this all wrong and wasting your hard earned money.

[MuZiZZle]

I have to agree with Ross.

David, your going about this all wrong and wasting your hard earned money.

exactly, some B8s are up for sale for £225 in the sales section!!!

[Dave_P]

B8's are no use for circuit racing either... its a whole new ballpark.

Think Leda/Peugeot sport/AST/Ohlins etc.

David, if you were serious about doing stockhatch you'd be buying one of the cars previously mentioned on Pistonheads, not buying cheap crap off ebay that's not fit for purpose.

Out of curiosity how old are you?

[Sam]

Out of curiosity how old are you?

His profile says 28.

Those pistonhead links have some bargins! ive never really looked in that section of pistonheads classified before. There are some really nice cars for not alot of money :)

[KamRacing]

and a half decent set of AST will cost £1300. Nearly half the price of those race cars! Stock Hatch cars usually get fitted with strong oversize front coilovers which are welded to a cut down hub. These are vastly stronger due to larger shafts, and more consistent due to larger oil capacity.

The OP has gone and bought standard road springs in a coilover form. Totally inappropriate for racing. This might at best turn into a race inspired road car, but if the rest of the build is done with the cheapest 'performance' parts then its ultimately going to fail massively as a race car.

Personally I would stop the build. Sell the car, get yourself a job (as you mention you dont have one) and then save up for a ready built car.
Long term you will financially be better off and may even have enough to go racing. You still have to factor getting a race licence, clothing, helmet, club fees, race fees, tow car and trailer etc etc

[DavidTaylor]

and a half decent set of AST will cost £1300. Nearly half the price of those race cars! Stock Hatch cars usually get fitted with strong oversize front coilovers which are welded to a cut down hub. These are vastly stronger due to larger shafts, and more consistent due to larger oil capacity.

The OP has gone and bought standard road springs in a coilover form. Totally inappropriate for racing. This might at best turn into a race inspired road car, but if the rest of the build is done with the cheapest 'performance' parts then its ultimately going to fail massively as a race car.

Personally I would stop the build. Sell the car, get yourself a job (as you mention you dont have one) and then save up for a ready built car.
Long term you will financially be better off and may even have enough to go racing. You still have to factor getting a race licence, clothing, helmet, club fees, race fees, tow car and trailer etc etc

Thanks KAM RACING

Guys words mean alot if anything i need physical help all stuff i have purchased are fia approved so its all ok i really dont care for my first outing what stuff i have on the car other than it goes and i get some experience your all quick to just i have this i have that.

Maby come watch me sometime then you will see im not BSiing you.

And KAM RACING I DID SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND YOU HAVE NOT REPLYED.

[KamRacing]

not seen an email from you. Drop me a pm :D

[DavidTaylor]

not seen an email from you. Drop me a pm :D

If your the company KAM RACING i emailed you my spec and proposal.

Thanks

[iluminusbutterfly]

please tell me when you are going on your first track day, i will happily come on track to watch this failure unveil infront of my eyes (no way im going to be overtaking for two reasons 1. the shear ability of a saxo with a badly welded roof skin and ebay coilovers will dick on my bm 2. no way i want that behind me, you might ram into me with your "skillz")

[DavidTaylor]

please tell me when you are going on your first track day, i will happily come on track to watch this failure unveil infront of my eyes (no way im going to be overtaking for two reasons 1. the shear ability of a saxo with a badly welded roof skin and ebay coilovers will dick on my bm 2. no way i want that behind me, you might ram into me with your "skillz")

Ok i will go for the 2nd option.

[DavidTaylor]

please tell me when you are going on your first track day, i will happily come on track to watch this failure unveil infront of my eyes (no way im going to be overtaking for two reasons 1. the shear ability of a saxo with a badly welded roof skin and ebay coilovers will dick on my bm 2. no way i want that behind me, you might ram into me with your "skillz")

Knockhill 19th august be there and watch your jaw drop!

[MuZiZZle]

Knockhill 19th august be there and watch your jaw drop!

I may actually be up in mine ;p

[Dave_P]

I'm racing at Shelsley that weekend. :(

[MuZiZZle]

I'm racing at Shelsley that weekend. :(

You'd only get humiliated !

[Dave_P]

You'd only get humiliated !

:oops:

[Jungle]

hahahahahahahahaha I ill make sure mine is on the road again by 19th August so I can go and piss all over you. People have tried to help and you have ignored them. You are not a racing driver, you don't have a clue and I would be surprised if that car ever makes a full lap round Knockhill.

Cut the bullshit and grow up.

[Dave_P]

Its not like David is 17-18, he's old enough to know better. :ponder:

[Gandi699]

I'm racing at Shelsley that weekend. :(

Might pop to watch that!

[DavidTaylor]

I just wish you would shut the F**K up and do1 fella i know what im doing im not asking for help on that stuff on the car im asking for help at races and i will choose what i listen to as people always lead me up the garden path.

And to those that do come to watch thank you and come say hello.

David

[iluminusbutterfly]

Knockhill 19th august be there and watch your jaw drop!

I thought you were just trying to coherse Shane (yes btw I am first name basis, my good mate Danny used to drift in the team with him) into driving for you, I can ask him tomorrow if you like if he wants to give up professional competition drifting to drive a little French car built with eBay specials? but that's beside the point, if your actually on track then I very much doubt my jaw would drop unless you are on about me being gobsmacked at what your are defining as a race car?

[Dave_P]

I just wish you would shut the F**K up and do1 fella i know what im doing

I hope this comment isn't aimed at me...

It's clear to all you don't have a clue what your doing.

[Lewis1600]

David Taylor is a funny guy.. :D


Please make some video's of your outings at the track..

[MuZiZZle]

It's clear to all you don't have a clue what your doing.

my keyboard is now full of nescafe!

[Jungle]

I hope this comment isn't aimed at me...

It's clear to all you don't have a clue what your doing.

Think it might have been for me? Who knows!

I just wish you would shut the F**K up and do1 fella i know what im doing im not asking for help on that stuff on the car im asking for help at races and i will choose what i listen to as people always lead me up the garden path.

And to those that do come to watch thank you and come say hello.

David

I wish you would stop talking out your arse. You don't know what your doing. Some people on here know ALOT about racing and you are ignoring them. I know a little bit about racing at a club level, which I can guarantee is a hell of a lot more than you.

[saxova]

As said before, op hasn't got all the light's turned on.

I've seen this type before.. They think they're great at whatever they do, even though people tell them they're shit. They still believe they're brilliant at it..

You know like the type on Britain's got talent etc.

'asking for help at races' - your going to a trackday mate. There is no racing. There is no prize. There is no need for a team. You still have standard 8v's. You have the shittest suspension going. You thought a primered body kit made your saxo a race car.

Maybe one of those point's will get through.. But no doubt he will still think he's in a race series or some shit.

[Dave_P]

Please make some video's of your outings at the track..

I 2nd that.

[Ross]

I just wish you would shut the F**K up and do1 fella i know what im doing im not asking for help on that stuff on the car im asking for help at races and i will choose what i listen to as people always lead me up the garden path.

And to those that do come to watch thank you and come say hello.

David

Before you bought the cheap suspension, you asked my opinion. I don't race, but have limited knowledge (enough to advise on the basics). I said "avoid at all costs". In fact, what I said was:


David William Taylor-Piggot
here what do you think of this do you think 180 is legit for a coilover kit?

23 JulyRoss Dagley-Cleworth
for a shit ebay one, yeah
raceland or some crap

23 JulyDavid William Taylor-Piggot
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/selection-of-brand-new-coilovers-306-xsara-bora-golf-toledojetta-leon-passat-a4-audi-saxo/96217717
legit or off back of lorry?

23 JulyRoss Dagley-Cleworth
gonna be shite
raceland i bet ya
avoid
unless you just want to go low and don't care about the handling


But you went ahead and bought them. Then posted here. Mate, you know I'm not taking the piss out of you - quite the opposite. I've tried to help. But when you ignore the advice given, it's hard to sustain an interest in protecting you from your own actions... :(

[RyanSaxo]

Before you bought the cheap suspension, you asked my opinion. I don't race, but have limited knowledge (enough to advise on the basics). I said "avoid at all costs". In fact, what I said was:



But you went ahead and bought them. Then posted here. Mate, you know I'm not taking the piss out of you - quite the opposite. I've tried to help. But when you ignore the advice given, it's hard to sustain an interest in protecting you from your own actions... :(

That's a point well made - I think you're one of the most valuable members on this site. Whenever I'm searching for information more often than not I come across a really useful, well laid out and informative post from you that answers all questions. I've never seen you take the piss really, so new members like this guy should listen to what you have to say and not ignore the advice and then come back throwing insults around when people say he's an idiot. It's frustrating to watch.

For OP - I'd sell the suspension straight away my friend, you'd be better off running on standard springs and dampers than those coilovers imo. Mainly because I would trust the standard stuff to be stronger than cheapo ebay specials, especially when it fails mid corner and you end up hitting something your repair bill will outweigh the saving you think you have made now.

There's a load of information on this forum, I've learnt quite a bit by searching, typically the older stuff when members weren't trolling all the time is the most useful. But a large number of people have done what you're doing. Look at alanpone's progress thread, he built a good track car with a £1k budget. Have a look at the products he chose to use and take a similar route. I know he asked for a lot of advice and was very selective on what he bought.

But honestly, have you ever driven a car with really cheap coilovers on? They're awful mate, honestly.

[KamRacing]

If your the company KAM RACING i emailed you my spec and proposal.

Thanks

you will have to resend it. I get rather a lot of email and a quick scan over the last week brings up nothing. Its not in my junk folder either.
salesteam@@@kamracing dot co dot uk

[Alanapone]

Okay ladies and gentlemen. I've had a quick scan through this thread and here's my thinking.

David, I appreciate your high levels of enthusiasm and drive to see this project through. Unfortunately, I now have to agree with most of the guys who's advice you have ignored. This website holds millions of pages of information that is easily found by using the sites search function. Even quick searches would have given you links or details of all the regulations and specs required for the event's you wish to race in as well as honest reviews from people who have actually used the type of equipment you need to be fitting to your car.

I suggest that before making more posts you spend as much time researching on here as you have seen first hand on two occasions now, what members of this (and other) sites will be like wen you ignore their years of experience.

You are not the first and will not be the last person to come on here with the sort of ideas you have and you need to look into the costs and requirements that are involved with getting into motorsport at any level.

For the reasons I have given, I am going to lock this thread for a week. I will then delete it and when David has figured things out properly, you can start another thread. As I said previously. I would use this week to do some SERIOUS research about what you want to do.

As for the rest of you. Thanks to everyone for offering David your advice. I would have liked some of you to have PM'd me about this though considering that some were involved with the previous thread and surely knew what this was going to turn into.

Hopefully, David will return inn a few weeks with a more focused and open minded approach to this idea and hopefully we can see an exciting and prospering "team" grow from it.