Anyone feel knakered all the time?

[iVTR]

I'm hardly a lazy cunt, I feel tired all the time though.

Does anyone else? .. Is it normal :geek:

:y:

[Cam]

I get it alot but thats because i work night shift i guess lol

[Scott-jarvis]

I Do, Do 10 hours a Day 5 Days a Week, Then Gym 4 Times a Week, and I have a MInd that Never stops going, Possible Anxiety Problems.

[McGuire86]

Lack of sleep, dehydration and shit diet will be why.

[W343NNA]

does this also come with feavers and or huge heqdaches and migranes ? if so then no how you feel im currently the talk of confusion amoungst doctors been i. hospital with it tooo still none the wiser

[VTR_Bass87]

Hmmm I seem to find this a lot in women lately, girls I know don't come out like they used to! their excuse is they are too tired... Personally I blame 50 shades.

[Liamm]

Even on my days off work I'll be asleep for half the afternoon because I'm tired. My eyelid has been twitching for nearly 3 weeks now aswell, happens quite a few times during the day, dunno if thats fatiuge(sp) or stress, or both.

I slept for 3 hours yesterday afternoon and still went to bed at midnight and slept through to 9am and if I go sit on the sofa now I can garauntee in 10 minutes I'll be gone.

[huricane]

i felt tired all time i went doctors and it was lack of iron so now i take multi vit

[P_Connor]

I'm almost the opposite, can't seem to unwind in the evening just have too much get up and go. Hence the cannot sleep thread a while ago.

[iVTR]

Well fuck me sideways it's not just me aha

I have a good diet and I drink a lot of water, usually sleep for 8 hours too.

Weird.

:y:

[greyjasper51]

Yeah when i have a slow day at work... Like today ive done something im up and awake ready to take on the world!! Lol also for me depends on how hot i get when i sleep... If i get too hot when im asleep im bolluxed...

[McGuire86]

Well fuck me sideways it's not just me aha

I have a good diet and I drink a lot of water, usually sleep for 8 hours too.

Weird.

:y:

How much pure water do you drink daily ? And what is a 'good diet' ?

[iVTR]

How much pure water do you drink daily ? And what is a 'good diet' ?

Honestly, probably too much that it is unhealthy for me.

I always have a drink next to me and am sipping away.

I'd estimate probably about 3 - 3.5 litres of pure water a day.

Diet, 3 bowls of shredded wheats in the morning semi skimmed milk

Lunch, sainsburys meal deal - Sandwich (Slightly bad..) fruit and apple juice

Dinner, always something wholesome and not packet meal shite.

(Pasta bakes, chilli ect)

I eat a fair bit too.

[jones91]

I'm always constantly tired, I work 10 hours a day during the week and work sat mornings, spend 1 1/2 hours in the gym 5 times a week, sleep about 5 hours a night and only drink pure water if I'm in the gym, and on top of that have other things to deal with e.g working on the car...... no wonder I'm always fucked lol

[McGuire86]

Honestly, probably too much that it is unhealthy for me.

I always have a drink next to me and am sipping away.

I'd estimate probably about 3 - 3.5 litres of pure water a day.

Diet, 3 bowls of shredded wheats in the morning semi skimmed milk

Lunch, sainsburys meal deal - Sandwich (Slightly bad..) fruit and apple juice

Dinner, always something wholesome and not packet meal shite.

(Pasta bakes, chilli ect)

I eat a fair bit too.

3litres aint that much, I drink a gallon a day. You should aim for 7-8 pints. That diet aint great either, not enough complex carbohydrates. Take in more veg aswell.
Also take in more vitamins and minerals. Iron and magnesium are best for energy along with vitamin B.

I'm always constantly tired, I work 10 hours a day during the week and work sat mornings, spend 1 1/2 hours in the gym 5 times a week, sleep about 5 hours a night and only drink pure water if I'm in the gym, and on top of that have other things to deal with e.g working on the car...... now infer I'm always fucked lol

5 hours is no way near enough sleep. You should aim for 8 minimum. Why do you need to gym 5 times a week anyway ? You are probably overtraining.

[Ella_P]

I'm always constantly tired, I work 10 hours a day during the week and work sat mornings, spend 1 1/2 hours in the gym 5 times a week, sleep about 5 hours a night and only drink pure water if I'm in the gym, and on top of that have other things to deal with e.g working on the car...... now infer I'm always fucked lol

You need to slow down, or you'll burn yourself out!

Are you training different muscle groups on your 5x a week gym sessions? You run a massive risk of injury training that often if you're doing the same stuff.

OP. I'd recommend a really good multivitamin like sanotegen gold.

[e8_pqck]

I used to get tired on shifts

Now im back on days its better

If i stop training at the gym for any length of time i cant sleep.

I also feel better now im eating three squares a day, used to be a bit hap-hazard.

[iVTR]

3litres aint that much, I drink a gallon a day. You should aim for 7-8 pints. That diet aint great either, not enough complex carbohydrates. Take in more veg aswell.
Also take in more vitamins and minerals. Iron and magnesium are best for energy along with vitamin B.


Forgot to add, there is always a serving of veg with my meals lol :)

But thanks for the information, I'll try to go for more vitamins and minerals then!

On a side note.. are those one a day vitamin things any good?

[jones91]

You need to slow down, or you'll burn yourself out!

Are you training different muscle groups on your 5x a week gym sessions? You run a massive risk of injury training that often if you're doing the same stuff.

OP. I'd recommend a really good multivitamin like sanotegen gold.
No I specify a different muscle group each day e.g
Day 1 - shoulders and stomach
Day 2 - back
Day 3 - chest
Day 4 - legs
Day 5 - arms
And have a couple of days rest a week

And McGuire I try to get more than 5 hours sleep a night, but have sleep problems which stop me sleeping properly on a regular basis

[McGuire86]

Forgot to add, there is always a serving of veg with my meals lol :)

But thanks for the information, I'll try to go for more vitamins and minerals then!

On a side note.. are those one a day vitamin things any good?

Yes they are better than nothing but you get what you pay for, try and look for a good multivit that has a high serving of Vitamin B12 iron and magnesium.

No I specify a different muscle group each day e.g
Day 1 - shoulders and stomach
Day 2 - back
Day 3 - chest
Day 4 - legs
Day 5 - arms
And have a couple of days rest a week

And McGuire I try to get more than 5 hours sleep a night, but have sleep problems which stop me sleeping properly on a regular basis

No need to do a 5 day split, you shouldn't be training more than 3 days in a row anyway (especially if you're a natty), so 5 days straight is doing more harm than good. Especially with 5 hours sleep, you're over training and not having enough time to recover.

If I was you I would change to a 3 day split, mon-wed-fri. More is not better.

[iSlayeR]

Honestly, probably too much that it is unhealthy for me.

I always have a drink next to me and am sipping away.

I'd estimate probably about 3 - 3.5 litres of pure water a day.

Diet, 3 bowls of shredded wheats in the morning semi skimmed milk

Lunch, sainsburys meal deal - Sandwich (Slightly bad..) fruit and apple juice

Dinner, always something wholesome and not packet meal shite.

(Pasta bakes, chilli ect)

I eat a fair bit too.


Are you eating enough veg? I went to the doctors and they said i wasn't eating enough veg, also depression causes tiredness

[jones91]

Yes they are better than nothing but you get what you pay for, try and look for a good multivit that has a high serving of Vitamin B12 iron and magnesium.



No need to do a 5 day split, you shouldn't be training more than 3 days in a row anyway (especially if you're a natty), so 5 days straight is doing more harm than good. Especially with 5 hours sleep, you're over training and not having enough time to recover.

If I was you I would change to a 3 day split, mon-wed-fri. More is not better.
Yeah I agree that 5 days a week is probably a bit too much, I never train 5 days in a row though, most weeks il do a mon, tues, thurs, fri, sat split so I have a bit of rest during the week, but I've been doing 5 day weeks for over two years now and got good results from it, so now I always feel that if I don't spend atleast an hour on a muscle then I'm not getting anywhere

[McGuire86]

Yeah I agree that 5 days a week is probably a bit too much, I never train 5 days in a row though, most weeks il do a mon, tues, thurs, fri, sat split so I have a bit of rest during the week, but I've been doing 5 day weeks for over two years now and got good results from it, so now I always feel that if I don't spend atleast an hour on a muscle then I'm not getting anywhere

Well if you've been doing it for 2 years then even more reason to change. Ideally you should follow a set routine for anywhere between 8-16 weeks. It's all about shocking the muscles and taking them places they're not comfortable with.

But that's another discussion. Regarding to tiredness you're doing too much with too little rest and sleep. Try switching to a 3 day or even a 4 day split for 6 weeks and see how you are after. It's only 6 weeks of your life so wont hurt.

[Saxologist]

Could be a STD.

Syphilis:
Signs and symptoms of secondary syphilis may begin two to 10 weeks after the chancre appears, and may include:

Rash marked by red or reddish-brown, penny-sized sores over any area of your body, including your palms and soles
Fever
Fatigue and a vague feeling of discomfort
Soreness and aching



/thread

[SaxoWM]

Low test???

[iVTR]

Right, so we all have STD's. :homme:


StephanieeLouise?

[16vdady]

Go to ur doctor and have blood test for diabetes. I used to be knackered all the time and that was why.

[stevo67]

Talking to my doc the other day & I asked her about these vitamin supplements,she told me that if you eat the correct foods then you don`t need them.

[Carl-h]

I'm always bloody tired these days. I have been for a while to be honest. My work is pretty hard to be fair. 9.5 hour shifts with around 5-10 minute break and start at 4 am or earlier with lots of graft and a very hot environment. I average about 6 hours sleep I can't get anymore without being an anti social bastard and going to bed at 7 lol. Gonna try some vitamins I think.

[Ella_P]

Talking to my doc the other day & I asked her about these vitamin supplements,she told me that if you eat the correct foods then you don`t need them.

Do most people eat the correct foods though? You might think you have a 'healthy' diet, but how many people get 5 pieces of fruit or veg (preferably veg) a day?

I always feel a lot more energetic when I'm on multivitamins, and my doctor actually recommended them. But perhaps this is because I'm female and it's bloody hard to replenish all the iron you lose regularly... (pun intended)

[Aaron]

go doctors, get a blood test to check your "thyroid".......

[iVTR]

go doctors, get a blood test to check your "thyroid".......

My mum has this :dweeb:

Well, underactive one anyway.

[Aaron]

answers your question then.


go get a blood test, just be careful, if you are only slightly underactive- ideally dont go on the pills as they arent brilliant. but do work.

[Florry]

iVTR - I'm a newbie, so hope you don't mind me commenting. I may not know much about Saxos, but I do (like to think) I know about ill health. TATT (Tired all the time) or CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) are recognised medical conditions. I don't think you're a sufferer though. Here's the link, see what you think - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TATT

You could go to your GP and get the full range of checks on your bloods - this would pick up on pretty much everything that has been referred to and some others that have not.

That said, I wonder if you're being too hard on yourself, I wish I had half your energy. Sounds to me like you might benefit from some down time to appreciate the benefit of all your training etc.

Thanks.

Paul

[Carlvtr88]

Do u smoke mate. Can be a major factor. also if your diet is shite.

[L33h]

Ive felt nackard all week but i think its cos i stopped smoking on monday lol.

All the stress has tired me out haha

[jw1325]

If you're drinking / eating a lot of sugary stuff and always feel tired and sluggish, get checked for diabetes / pernicious anaemia.

i have border line pernicious anaemia. A can of redbull is enough to put me into a coma like sleep for a good 12 hours.

CFS is a load of croc.

[iVTR]

iVTR - I'm a newbie, so hope you don't mind me commenting. I may not know much about Saxos, but I do (like to think) I know about ill health. TATT (Tired all the time) or CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) are recognised medical conditions. I don't think you're a sufferer though. Here's the link, see what you think - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TATT

You could go to your GP and get the full range of checks on your bloods - this would pick up on pretty much everything that has been referred to and some others that have not.

That said, I wonder if you're being too hard on yourself, I wish I had half your energy. Sounds to me like you might benefit from some down time to appreciate the benefit of all your training etc.

Thanks.

Paul

No, I don't smoke, never have never will :)

And thanks for the information, I'll check it out in the morning (Sleep now ha ha)


:y:

[motocrossjord]

Im tired most of the time tbh, unless im doing something that i enjoy/interesting! But it's just down to lack of sleep for me.

But i live by " you have enough time to sleep when your dead "

there's 24 hours in a day, i believe 4 are for sleep, 10 are for work, 10 are for fun! :)

[McGuire86]

Im tired most of the time tbh, unless im doing something that i enjoy/interesting! But it's just down to lack of sleep for me.

But i live by " you have enough time to sleep when your dead "

there's 24 hours in a day, i believe 4 are for sleep, 10 are for work, 10 are for fun! :)

You'll be heading to an early grave then

[iVTR]

lol.. 4 hours sleep. I'd be fucked.

[Mr_P]

You'll be heading to an early grave then

But he'll be going there happy!:drink:

[McGuire86]

But he'll be going there happy!:drink:

Tired and fucked everyday ? More likely to be exposed to illness's due to sleep deprivation ? Yeah over the moon with happiness :y:

[Jay_]

Tired and fucked everyday ? More likely to be exposed to illness's due to sleep deprivation ? Yeah over the moon with happiness :y:

I'm sorry we don't all live the perfect lifestyle.... :homme:

[McGuire86]

I'm sorry we don't all live the perfect lifestyle.... :homme:

Fuck you talking about ? Was just giving out advice not underlining the 'perfect lifestyle' as you so put it.

It doesn't take a doctor to work out 4 hours sleep a night is going to eventually result in problems.

[Jay_]

Fuck you talking about ? Was just giving out advice not underlining the 'perfect lifestyle' as you so put it.

It doesn't take a doctor to work out 4 hours sleep a night is going to eventually result in problems.

:hug:.

[motocrossjord]

You'll be heading to an early grave then

Not really? I only really struggle waking up, then the first hour is a serious mind game of staying awake, after that im fine.

Even say i die @ 40, most people sleep 8 hours + a day, so i will actually end up of living more of a life than the average person who lives till 70 odd, lol.

I just hate the idea of wasting 1 third of my life on sleep! Life's to be lived, imo.

[motocrossjord]

lol.. 4 hours sleep. I'd be fucked.


Everyone say's that, but seriously, i honestly only sleep for a max of 4 hours a day.

Everyone 10-14 days i will have what i call my " lazy day " where i catch up on some ZZZZ's and have a good 6/7 hour sleep.

I struggled at first, but very quickly got used to having less sleep. I think like most things its mind over matter!

[Ryanoo]

Me. I eat alot of fruit and drink fruit juice. My piss is usually clear...I rarely drink alcohol and don't exercise that much 2/3 times a week.

I'd be dead in a week if I had 4 hours sleep a day. Not sure if you're human.. :p

[iVTR]

Everyone say's that, but seriously, i honestly only sleep for a max of 4 hours a day.

Everyone 10-14 days i will have what i call my " lazy day " where i catch up on some ZZZZ's and have a good 6/7 hour sleep.

I struggled at first, but very quickly got used to having less sleep. I think like most things its mind over matter!

Crazy mate, it's common knowledge that less sleep is bad for you. More prone to getting shit aswell.

Whatever makes you tick though :y:

.. Be awesome if we didn't have to sleep. Could just play xbox all night. :homme:

[Cal]

CFS is a load of croc.I've had CFS/Myalgic Encephalomyetis just over a year... I wish it was a load of 'croc'.

For a guy that loves sport/used to compete at international level - it's devastating.

[enthrone]

Everyone say's that, but seriously, i honestly only sleep for a max of 4 hours a day.

Everyone 10-14 days i will have what i call my " lazy day " where i catch up on some ZZZZ's and have a good 6/7 hour sleep.

I struggled at first, but very quickly got used to having less sleep. I think like most things its mind over matter!

I used to work nights and days, slept about 4 hours a day solid for 2 years your body gets used to it easily. however you feel like shit.

changed job and now my body feels shit unless i sleep 8+ :homme:

[Mr_P]

Tired and fucked everyday ? More likely to be exposed to illness's due to sleep deprivation ? Yeah over the moon with happiness :y:

Like has already been said, people get used to what they do.

Some people naturally don't sleep for long periods. Your body adjusts, yes. It might well be doing you harm, you don't know. You don't know when the individual rests during their time awake, to make up for their lack of long sleep.

I work around a lot of people and know that a lot of them are perfectly happy with 4 hours kip a night. They come to work and you can't keep them still. They'll happily do 7, 16hr shifts with only 4 hours kip between them. Then be back to work on Monday for their normal shift without ever needing anymore sleep.

One bloke in particular is an absolute fucking lunatic, he's in his 50's, lives life to the full and won't stop when he's in work. kips 4 hours a night. Happiest and probably the most energetic bloke I've ever met.

I also know people who miss work consistently due to not getting up in the morning, even if they spend the entire day in bed.


I know what you're saying with the lack of sleep, but it doesn't apply to everyone.

[iVTR]

Like has already been said, people get used to what they do.

Some people naturally don't sleep for long periods. Your body adjusts, yes. It might well be doing you harm, you don't know. You don't know when the individual rests during their time awake, to make up for their lack of long sleep.

I work around a lot of people and know that a lot of them are perfectly happy with 4 hours kip a night. They come to work and you can't keep them still. They'll happily do 7, 16hr shifts with only 4 hours kip between them. Then be back to work on Monday for their normal shift without ever needing anymore sleep.

One bloke in particular is an absolute fucking lunatic, he's in his 50's, lives life to the full and won't stop when he's in work. kips 4 hours a night. Happiest and probably the most energetic bloke I've ever met.

I also know people who miss work consistently due to not getting up in the morning, even if they spend the entire day in bed.


I know what you're saying with the lack of sleep, but it doesn't apply to everyone.

I see what you are saying, however, just because he seems happy and energetic does not mean he is.

And even if he is, 4 hours sleep a night - surely his body cant be getting enough rest.

Madness!

I'm off to bed.:y:

[Prickle]

Not really but i do during my 4 12 shifts per week.

1 shift i go to bed @ 11pm and get up at 5am.
2 shift i go to bed @ 11pm and get up a 5am >crippled but press on as i crossover to night shift.

3rd shift i go to bed @ 1am to 12:30pm. then i go to bed at 6:30am til 12:30pm
4th shift i go to bed 6:30am til 12:30 pm

1st day off i go to bed at 6:30am from my nightshift and get up a 10:30am. i wake up feeling abit crap but it wears off.

I recover for 3 days and repeat..

[motocrossjord]

Me. I eat alot of fruit and drink fruit juice. My piss is usually clear...I rarely drink alcohol and don't exercise that much 2/3 times a week.

I'd be dead in a week if I had 4 hours sleep a day. Not sure if you're human.. :p

Maybe i should go to the Doc's? my piss changes daily! lmao.

Haha i don't think im human, how ever i am yet to find my " super power "

[motocrossjord]

I used to work nights and days, slept about 4 hours a day solid for 2 years your body gets used to it easily. however you feel like shit.

changed job and now my body feels shit unless i sleep 8+ :homme:

Happy to agree with you on that mate.

I Feel like complete utter dog shite most the time.. but im in a good routine atm and wont change until i have too i guess! Or until i win some £££££££ and i can sleep 10 hours a day!

[motocrossjord]

Like has already been said, people get used to what they do.

Some people naturally don't sleep for long periods. Your body adjusts, yes. It might well be doing you harm, you don't know. You don't know when the individual rests during their time awake, to make up for their lack of long sleep.

I work around a lot of people and know that a lot of them are perfectly happy with 4 hours kip a night. They come to work and you can't keep them still. They'll happily do 7, 16hr shifts with only 4 hours kip between them. Then be back to work on Monday for their normal shift without ever needing anymore sleep.

One bloke in particular is an absolute fucking lunatic, he's in his 50's, lives life to the full and won't stop when he's in work. kips 4 hours a night. Happiest and probably the most energetic bloke I've ever met.

I also know people who miss work consistently due to not getting up in the morning, even if they spend the entire day in bed.


I know what you're saying with the lack of sleep, but it doesn't apply to everyone.

Could not have put it better my self MR_P.