What other cars - Sports Saloons

[Mochachino]

haha ok, kinda like the what car should I buy thread.

I'm looking at a new car to replace the Integra.

Ive gone through a phase of wanting an Evo5, but my budget only caters for the lower price band of Evo5's. 4's are out of the question.

I have no decided to get a cheaper car for the time being, budget up to 3.5k I dont really want to spend anything more than that.

I want something that has a 0-60 of under 8 seconds. Preferably a larger engine that is more relaxed for my commute of duel carriageways and also 4 door.

Ive got a couple of specifics some you might think are abit meaningless:

2002 onwards as I find this catches most newer shape models, anything older and they look dated imo
Leather Interior or half leather
Under 100k
4 Door Saloon or Coupe
2.2L or higher
Silver or Black
Not Vauxhall, Ford or Rover
Manual

To give you an idea of what I've been looking at:

BMW M sport Coupe 325's E46's
Honda Accord 2003 Type S (Love these)
328I Sport E36 abit of an exception to a few specifics, but they kinda retain a certain style I like.

So going off these pointers, what other cars do you think are out there that are available.

Thank you in advance.

[Nik_L]

Accord Type R?? Or would you prefer the newer shape like listed??

[smiith]

Leon Cupra R? Always like them.. Stage 2 or 3 would have decent power..

[Nik_L]

Saab 9-3 Aero 2.0t??

[Mochachino]

Accord Type R?? Or would you prefer the newer shape like listed??

Yeh Accord Type Rs are highly appealing for what they are, but their appearance doesn't really turn me on lole, prefer the newer shape Accords.

Leon Cupra R? Always like them.. Stage 2 or 3 would have decent power..

They're nice cars, but I would rather a saloon or coupe.

Saab 9-3 Aero 2.0t??

Good shout.
I like these but the interior for me lets it down, the dash reminds me of a caravan. Also heard of problems with these cars.

Im quite particular, and im finding it hard to think of anything else :(

[TomT]

Citroën Saxo VTS.

[Nik_L]

The Accord Type S does look like alot of car for not much money.

The Saab dosn't really have much issue's tbh, cracked bulkheads i think are the main problems. Parts can be cheap as they are just a Vectra underneath, but in no way do they drive like a Vectra. Old man had 1 and it was trouble free, and an awesome all round car. Can see what you mean about the dash, shit load of buttons.

What about an M3 Evo saloon??

[Tommo87]

Accord Type-R is a winner as it fits all criteria.

Or a newer shape Type-S with the K24 would be nice and these have a shed load of aftermarket support too, and lots of power to be had just from K-pro + Type-R head.

[GolfJay]

Lexus IS200? Or even the Toyota Altezza version.

[Mochachino]

The Accord Type S does look like alot of car for not much money.

The Saab dosn't really have much issue's tbh, cracked bulkheads i think are the main problems. Parts can be cheap as they are just a Vectra underneath, but in no way do they drive like a Vectra. Old man had 1 and it was trouble free, and an awesome all round car. Can see what you mean about the dash, shit load of buttons.

What about an M3 Evo saloon??

didnt know they were vectras underneath! Yeh I was looing into them a few months ago, cracked bulkhead which wasnt too bad but there was something that was quite costly. Might reconsider them.

M3 Evo crossed my mind,cheap to buy, but expensive to maintain.

Accord Type-R is a winner as it fits all criteria.

Or a newer shape Type-S with the K24 would be nice and these have a shed load of aftermarket support too, and lots of power to be had just from K-pro + Type-R head.

Talk to me about the K24 please, as in some options for power etc. I know they have a nice chassis. Might focus on these more so.

Citroën Saxo VTS.

Heard these are quite rare and FDM imports?

Lexus IS200? Or even the Toyota Altezza version.

Will check these out! Thanks, forgot about them. Heard theyre also expensive when they go wrong though, cant be more so than Honda?

[smiith]

Will check these out! Thanks, forgot about them. Heard theyre also expensive when they go wrong though, cant be more so than Honda?

Alot of parts are toyota IIRC? So won't be all that much, unless you are looking for salvage parts, where someone could i suppose push a price up, since there wont be that many in scrappers..

[vtectransplant]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4145837.htm

Ticks all your requests??

[Nik_L]

If you like something with a bit poke, forget the IS200. Good, smooth cars, but without the Aero kit and wheels, they look a bit dated. Altezza RS200 is a good shout, 220bhp from the Beams engine. Sadly they go for a pretty penny.

[Mochachino]

Alot of parts are toyota IIRC? So won't be all that much, unless you are looking for salvage parts, where someone could i suppose push a price up, since there wont be that many in scrappers..

I guess, might have just been a rumour I heard! Or just out of date internet info lol

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4145837.htm

Ticks all your requests??

Fuck me! Thats hell of alot of car, its perfect, BUT swap everything it has into a better looking car such as a nissan micra and id have it. theyre so ugly, I think the lower model 5's look better, just dont really catch my eye though which is a shame!

If you like something with a bit poke, forget the IS200. Good, smooth cars, but without the Aero kit and wheels, they look a bit dated. Altezza RS200 is a good shout, 220bhp from the Beams engine. Sadly they go for a pretty penny.

Not even heard of them lol which have a search

[GolfJay]

I guess, might have just been a rumour I heard! Or just out of date internet info lol



Fuck me! Thats hell of alot of car, its perfect, BUT swap everything it has into a better looking car such as a nissan micra and id have it. theyre so ugly, I think the lower model 5's look better, just dont really catch my eye though which is a shame!



Not even heard of them lol which have a search


The Altezza is an imported Lexus IS200. Abit more poke and they look a lot better!

[Mochachino]

The Altezza is an imported Lexus IS200. Abit more poke and they look a lot better!

They all seem to be automatic too? The IS200s look alright actually, I wonder if you can get after market lights to get rid of the lexus lights :p

[JamesR]

93 2.0t or the Aeros are absolutely awesome.

Dads got one and it's had no issues, thing pulls like a train, looks good standard but even better with some subtle mods. Can be remapped for a decent gain too :)

I think the interior is pretty good, heated seats are great and the thing feels like your sat in a fighter jet with the night panel on green lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Quickening/shka005.jpg - Left hand drive version but I think it looks cool as fcuk

[Nik_L]

You can get covers for the IS200 which goes over the rear lights. Colour coded they look alot better.

[e8_pqck]

My old celica GT-Four ST205.

Fast, reliable, looks awesome, handles great, 4WD, cheap to buy.

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/e8_pack/P7050030.jpg

[DAMSK11]

1.1 saxo :y:

[TomT]

Heard these are quite rare and FDM imports?


Yeah but you get scene points for it.

P.s IS200's don't do 60 in under 8 seconds do they?

Seem nice though, did like them when a friend was looking at them but they don't seem all that quick considering pretty bad mpg.

[Giraffe]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201227477591586/



End your search right there. Fits absolutely everything you've asked for. Except colour, thought it was black at first glance...

[iluminusbutterfly]

get another e46

[headless]

Opinions always devided on these..but I quite like them :Y:
(colour of this is gash..look alot nicer in pretty much any other colour. Yellow, Red, and Silver I like.)

Mg ZS 180

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h338/gregmorse1/car2_zpsfff2d406.jpg


http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h338/gregmorse1/car_zpsadd79344.jpg

Edit: Just noticed you don't want a rover...Fail.

[Mochachino]

93 2.0t or the Aeros are absolutely awesome.

Dads got one and it's had no issues, thing pulls like a train, looks good standard but even better with some subtle mods. Can be remapped for a decent gain too :)

I think the interior is pretty good, heated seats are great and the thing feels like your sat in a fighter jet with the night panel on green lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Quickening/shka005.jpg - Left hand drive version but I think it looks cool as fcuk

Im no convinced :( Really like them from the outside, just not the inside.

My old celica GT-Four ST205.

Fast, reliable, looks awesome, handles great, 4WD, cheap to buy.

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/e8_pack/P7050030.jpg

Not so keen, imo it looks abit dated, thats the problem with jap I think.

Yeah but you get scene points for it.

P.s IS200's don't do 60 in under 8 seconds do they?

Seem nice though, did like them when a friend was looking at them but they don't seem all that quick considering pretty bad mpg.

Yeh thats something else I heard about poor MPG. IS200 out of the Q I think.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201227477591586/



End your search right there. Fits absolutely everything you've asked for. Except colour, thought it was black at first glance...

Decent car, just not so keen on the appearance. Like with the Accord, theres a model which is to the same spec of the Type S but it doesn't have the extra kit, and I wont even consider that model due to its looks despite it being the same engine, interior etc. Same with the BMWs, it has to be an M sport. They just have that bit extra.

This car might end up being long term too depending on what it is.

get another e46

Possible! Had a phone call back from a dealer just a minute a go asking for my reg to give me a value on my car. This 325 is VERY well priced, might even put it straight back up for sale.

[GolfJay]

Its an.MG ;)

[headless]

Octavia VRS?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201232481033055/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/price-to/4000/maximum-age/up_to_10_years_old/model/octavia/make/skoda/onesearchad/used/postcode/lu79hy/keywords/vrs/page/1/radius/1500?logcode=p

Interiors are lovely..
http://pictures2.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=2113135378&width=80&height=60

(Not sure if i'm allowed these links..if not someone can remove them :y:)

[Giraffe]

Fair enough, I quite like the looks of the S60's, prefer the look of the S80's though.

[0rang3peel]

fits none of your criteria but get one of these

http://www.bestautophoto.com/images/volvo-850-t5-01.jpg

[headless]

fits none of your criteria but get one of these
[/IMG]

The 2.5 T's are Rapido.

[0rang3peel]

The 2.5 T's are Rapido.

yup and can be made insane.

super cool car tbh, cheap as shit too

[Jazz]

Accord Type-R is a winner as it fits all criteria.

.

Yes to this.

Excellent car, especially for the money they fetch nowadays.

A decent alternative to the Teg, less revs and more torque, but still very revvy lol.

My new FN2 can't hold a candle to my old ATR, such an accomplished piece of engineering.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jazz_360/type-r3.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jazz_360/ATR4.jpg

[Bedford126]

Toyota aristo mate.
http://www.japanesesportcars.com/galleries/data/media/65/aristo_fabulous_1.jpg

enuff said everything you want in one car.

[rey]

What about one of these:

Click me (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4098925.htm)

[DUFC]

Lexus IS 300

[AlexB]

what about a mark 1 octy vrs

will easily find what you want in one of those
just not a massively fun car to drive but does the job very well

[deano_123]

300ZX or MR2 turbo

i look forward to your next thread where you'll be looking for advice for insurance 'cos its all so expensive

[Andy_K]

Mondeo st tdci or st220? Early ones can be had within budget, especially the 220.

[Tommo87]

The k24 makes decent power as standard.

Apparently with the head swap you get about 30% more torque through the range which is IMO well worth it.

[Tommo87]

What about one of these:

Click me (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4098925.htm)

Titles say "mint condition" yet advert says parking sensors not working, bubbling around key hole on boot, scuffed wheels...how the fuck is that mint condition.

[MuZiZZle]

I had a B4RSK, 2.0, twin turbo, 4wd, 0-60 in 5.5 and 170mph, insurance was a third of a wrx/evo?

They are SUPER cheap now!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/B4s/CIMG7200.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/B4s/CIMG7196.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/B4s/CIMG7195.jpg

[rey]

Haha I didn't look at specifics, just picked the first one!

[Tommo87]

Yes to this.

Excellent car, especially for the money they fetch nowadays.

A decent alternative to the Teg, less revs and more torque, but still very revvy lol.

My new FN2 can't hold a candle to my old ATR, such an accomplished piece of engineering.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jazz_360/type-r3.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jazz_360/ATR4.jpg

Listen to this man, he knows his stuff lol.

Plus a top example of an ATR will set you back probably no more than £3k, in fact I know of a genuine minter up for £2800 just had plenty of work done and he is selling as he wants a Landy to go off-roading with his mates.

They are also no slower than a DC2 in any area or so it has been said, apparently Leob took one around a track and posted a better time than he managed in the DC2. I know when I get another I'll be goin the OEM spoiler delete option just for the stealth.

[Giraffe]

Despoilered ATR's look amazing IMO. Are they really that good to drive though? Seem a little thirsty for what they are, if the figures are a good guide. 34mpg on a run? sub 30's mixed driving? How comfy are they to sit in?

[0rang3peel]

I love ATR's!

always get so overlooked.

does anyone have any examples of 'well' modified ones, it's hard imagining them in any other guise

[AdamB]

I love Accord Type S's. my best mate has one and its a decent car.
He has put some 30mm lowering springs on and spaced out the rear wheels.
It looks good
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn193/buffery001/816DBE23-907B-4052-8752-64E077009F4B-468-00000019E914C8EB_zps9bce9ff6.jpg

[Tommo87]

Despoilered ATR's look amazing IMO. Are they really that good to drive though? Seem a little thirsty for what they are, if the figures are a good guide. 34mpg on a run? sub 30's mixed driving? How comfy are they to sit in?

The figures are wrong, I got 40ish at least on a motorway and around town 32ish so not bad on fuel.

Yeah a bloke I know runs one with a G23 in it and its an animal, he runs in the VTEC challenge.

As for comfort the seats are so adjustable and comfy its untrue, did Liverpool to Edinburgh and back to Blackburn and was comfy all the way with no numbness or back pain plus I enjoyed every minute even on the motorway and especially on the A and B roads.

[Giraffe]

Was gonna say, the figures looked to be making it out to be a devil on fuel. I'd be seriously considering buying a standard one and despoilering it for the price they are. I was just a bit concerned that the seats would be over firm and a bit odd shaped. I like the look of "normal" seats... Only thing that's ever put me off them!

[Tommo87]

Really? The seats are much comfier than the EP3,DC5,DC2 or EK9 seats which all make me ache and feel too tight on me and I'm relatively skinny yet the ATR seats felt amazing for a factory recaro seats, wider and comfier yet still mega supportive with adjustable leg supports and an inflatable back support means comfort for everyone.

Genuinely I'll put myself on the line and say that the ATR is one of (if not) the best all round performance saloons on the market for the prices they fetch and punch well above their weight.

[Nik_L]

Any pictures of the ATR without the spoiler?? I just can't seem to picture it looking good. IMO, the high rise spoiler is what makes the car. Otherwise it would just look like a lowly SE or the likes.

[Giraffe]

Really? The seats are much comfier than the EP3,DC5,DC2 or EK9 seats which all make me ache and feel too tight on me and I'm relatively skinny yet the ATR seats felt amazing for a factory recaro seats, wider and comfier yet still mega supportive with adjustable leg supports and an inflatable back support means comfort for everyone.

Genuinely I'll put myself on the line and say that the ATR is one of (if not) the best all round performance saloons on the market for the prices they fetch and punch well above their weight.

I drive a Volvo... I've not driven a Honda yet, or anything with proper sport seats for that matter! I'm not massive, but definitely not skinny, so those seats do look intimidating. I'm used to driving around in an armchair. Only comparison I can think of is either an MG ZR's seats or a Clio 172. Both seats in those cars felt very restrictive around my back and sides and I didn't really fit too well in them, always had the same worry about any cars with sporty seats really!

[Tommo87]

Ask Jazz his view on the seats too as he has had lots of Honda Type-Rs with the range of seats and I reckon he'll say the ATR was comfiest.

[Giraffe]

Any pictures of the ATR without the spoiler?? I just can't seem to picture it looking good. IMO, the high rise spoiler is what makes the car. Otherwise it would just look like a lowly SE or the likes.

http://pictures2.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=2143523752

One on Autotrader at the moment

[rey]

Really? The seats are much comfier than the EP3,DC5,DC2 or EK9 seats which all make me ache and feel too tight on me and I'm relatively skinny yet the ATR seats felt amazing for a factory recaro seats, wider and comfier yet still mega supportive with adjustable leg supports and an inflatable back support means comfort for everyone.

Genuinely I'll put myself on the line and say that the ATR is one of (if not) the best all round performance saloons on the market for the prices they fetch and punch well above their weight.

The seats look the same as the Premier Recaro's? Bar the inflatable lumbar support, which I wish the Prem' trendlines came with!

[Ashleyp]

You've posted a few of these threads man.

Go have some test drives, see what you like / can afford, and make a purchase.

Or, buy a saxo :)

[Mochachino]

I had a B4RSK, 2.0, twin turbo, 4wd, 0-60 in 5.5 and 170mph, insurance was a third of a wrx/evo?

They are SUPER cheap now!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/B4s/CIMG7200.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/B4s/CIMG7196.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/B4s/CIMG7195.jpg


Great suggestion! didnt know about these and these are on my list now. Really like these!

You've posted a few of these threads man.

Go have some test drives, see what you like / can afford, and make a purchase.

Or, buy a saxo :)

I know, I go through phases, I think I have made 2 of these threads now though. This time I'm definitely selling up.

So the list is now:

Subaru Legazy B4 RSK
Honda Accord Type S
BMW 325 M Sport Coupe E46

[Jazz]

Despoilered ATR's look amazing IMO. Are they really that good to drive though? Seem a little thirsty for what they are, if the figures are a good guide. 34mpg on a run? sub 30's mixed driving? How comfy are they to sit in?

Ask Jazz his view on the seats too as he has had lots of Honda Type-Rs with the range of seats and I reckon he'll say the ATR was comfiest.

I will say that indeed.

Brilliantly supportive Recaro seats, decent enough ride quality and a general feeling of great stability whatever the situation.

I'm actually going to say the chassis is more talented than either of the Civics I subsequently owned.

The organic steering feel of the ATR is possibly the finest I've felt in any car to date, and I've driven many, many quick motors. I almost cry when I remember that steering feel.

Test drove a new Focus ST while I owned the ATR and neither me nor the salesman could undersand why I was so completely dissapointed.

I'd buy my old one back tomorrow if I could.

EDIT- of the above, B4 RSK Legacy for sure, like those :y:

[hard_corejoeboy]

BMW 328i The E36 shape...

[MuZiZZle]

Mocha, the insurance on a B4 is amazingly cheap, plus they are 4wd for the winter, I had a manual, most of them are tiptronic.

I gave mine death for 5 years and nothing went wrong with it?

Check out the blitzen one

[MuZiZZle]

From a best motoring DVD

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/battle.jpg

[Tommo87]

From a best motoring DVD

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/battle.jpg

This to me just shows how good the ATR actually is, it's the only FWD car there, the cheapest to buy, only a NA 4-pot and holding its own against the 4wd boost fed leggy and Bavarias finest even beating my favourite M-car.

[Mochachino]

Mocha, the insurance on a B4 is amazingly cheap, plus they are 4wd for the winter, I had a manual, most of them are tiptronic.

I gave mine death for 5 years and nothing went wrong with it?

Check out the blitzen one

Yeh im aware of the blitzen one, I thought that was the only decent model of the legacy though! Posted one on here earlier this year, love them. Way out of my budget though this time round.

[ed-bradley]

E39 5 Series?

http://pistonheads.com/sales/4119391.htm

[Mochachino]

E39 5 Series?

http://pistonheads.com/sales/4119391.htm

Its automatic, all the manuals are either very high miles or have dirty cream cracked leathers with wooden trim or not the sports :(

[DUFC]

http://sociallady.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/130_0701_11_z2001_lexus_is300right_side_view.jpg

[MuZiZZle]

Yeh im aware of the blitzen one, I thought that was the only decent model of the legacy though! Posted one on here earlier this year, love them. Way out of my budget though this time round.

Even the GTB estate ones are 280bhp twin turbo monsters

The blitzen was just bumpers and wheels, oh and a jazzy spoiler!

Let's import you something?

I've brought 3 cars over :p

[f13sta]

Volvo s40 r.
Same engine as the focus rs but 4wd and quick as hell and most wouldn't expect it.

[Mochachino]

Volvo s40 r.
Same engine as the focus rs but 4wd and quick as hell and most wouldn't expect it.

I forgot to put give or take a few hundred, not give or take 6 thousand £ lol

[makaveli144]

Alfa 156 v6

http://www.italiancar.com.au/images/Alfa156V6Manual_Engine_01_lg.jpg

[Chr15]

Peugeot 405 MI-16

My 1.8 was awesome!

[hard_corejoeboy]

Its not what you drive BUT how you drive it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEE2phm9yuA&feature=g-all-u

[Bedford126]

Its not what you drive BUT how you drive it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEE2phm9yuA&feature=g-all-u

Great words from a Twingo owner. That's like a bloke with a tiny cock saying its not the size its the way I use it.

[hard_corejoeboy]

Or its like saying i may have raped your mum but i still smashed her back doors in!

Either way the end point is still the same so who cares?

[23carragold]

.............

[rey]

Its not what you drive BUT how you drive it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEE2phm9yuA&feature=g-all-u

Will you just get it into your head that not everyone gives a fuck about how quickly a car that has been played with can lap the ring.

I literally want to die reading your drivel.

[0rang3peel]

Its not what you drive BUT how you drive it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEE2phm9yuA&feature=g-all-u

why are you such a tosser?

[hard_corejoeboy]

Woah! Well thats the little boy responses i expected.

I forget a driver doesnt make the car its how much hp you have down the seafront...

I was merely showing a video to back up how good a 328i could be for the op

Get a life lizards. Smoke less crack or whatever you 18 year olds do nowadays...

[23carragold]

..............

[0rang3peel]

You really are as thick as you are moronic.

EVERY single enthusiast worth their salt knows it's about the driving skill and not the car...you shout from the fucking tree tops about this as if you've magically found out this principle from your own arse hole that you lick so much.

You genuinely cannot seem to interpret the annoyance of people on here towards you for the aforementioned reason. Either that or you have skin as dense as your brain.

yep. nailed it.

:y:

[CHIP]

Joey still chats shit? Nothings changed then lol.

Danny, sort yourself out lad, i can't keep up! :P

[Jay_]

Can someone just ban captain knob head?

Keep the teggy Danny :y:

I went in a police ACR as a kiddo and it was just awesome :y: But I was like 12 so anything fast was awesome back then...

[hard_corejoeboy]

Whatever david guetta lol

[Ashleyp]

repost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3D0Z9_Dy08

Hard_coreblowjob has got some bare sick drivin' skillz tho init.

[DreamEater]

Saab 9-3 Aero 2.0t??

Yeh Accord Type Rs are highly appealing for what they are, but their appearance doesn't really turn me on lole, prefer the newer shape Accords.



They're nice cars, but I would rather a saloon or coupe.



Good shout.
I like these but the interior for me lets it down, the dash reminds me of a caravan. Also heard of problems with these cars.

Im quite particular, and im finding it hard to think of anything else :(

I have a 07 1.9TiD, it has the new chrome gm dash with the dials and not buttons, also the SID has been moved from under the windscreen to the dials, looks much smarter.

And in the 20k I've had mine since feb it's had 2 new tyres.

[Jay_]

Whatever david guetta lol

IT'S NOT THE SINGER IT'S THE SONG. Shut up.
repost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3D0Z9_Dy08

Hard_coreblowjob has got some bare sick drivin' skillz tho init.

Exit speed looks considerably slower than entry. Not that the entry speed was quick....

[hard_corejoeboy]

repost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3D0Z9_Dy08

Hard_coreblowjob has got some bare sick drivin' skillz tho init.

You are basing me having a laugh getting the wheel of a krappy 1.4 106 a foot off the ground as my sick skillz lol?

[Carl-h]

You are basing me having a laugh getting the wheel of a krappy 1.4 106 a foot off the ground as my sick skillz lol?

Foot off the ground? Hahaha

[hard_corejoeboy]

Two words freeze frame.

[rey]

^^ One word: twat

[Bound]

Two words freeze frame.

^^ One word: twat

Oooh charades!

Okay, one word (portmanteau), 11 letters, a title of a forum for dickheads. Go.

[Prickle]

Exit speed looks considerably slower than entry. Not that the entry speed was quick....

Cant find a picture for this post. FML.

needs one though.

[0rang3peel]

Oooh charades!

Okay, one word (portmanteau), 11 letters, a title of a forum for dickheads. Go.

saxperience.

my turn - 15 letters,

"The miserable life of a failed race car driver using a strut brace and bilstein b8s"

[MuZiZZle]

http://i.imgur.com/wU68X.jpg

[rey]

saxperience.

my turn - 15 letters,

"The miserable life of a failed race car driver using a strut brace and bilstein b8s"

Hardcorefuckwit?

[0rang3peel]

Hardcorefuckwit?

10 points.

ps I hit the apex on my way to work this morning, it was so sweet.

[hard_corejoeboy]

http://i.imgur.com/wU68X.jpg

This is why you fail.

Your about a million frames too early...but then prematureness is probably something you are used to lizardlips.

[Jay_]

This is why you fail.

Your about a million frames too early...but then prematureness is probably something you are used to lizardlips.

That rear wheel did not once leave the floor. fact.

[hard_corejoeboy]

False you can clearly see it about a foot off the floor before it disappears behind the roundabout...not that it matters. I was just having a play in my missus' car.

[Randyransford91]

9-3 Areo ;)

[MuZiZZle]

This is why you fail.

Your about a million frames too early...but then prematureness is probably something you are used to lizardlips.

really, I think you missed the point of my post :homme:

[rey]

False you can clearly see it about a foot off the floor before it disappears behind the roundabout...not that it matters. I was just having a play in my missus' car.

If you call that a foot then you must claim to have a yard long shlong.

[MuZiZZle]

http://i.imgur.com/MYoXA.jpg

[hard_corejoeboy]

If you call that a foot then you must claim to have a yard long shlong.

Im really going to take a screenshot of thos later? Really?

Its as much off the ground as the wheel is tall. So 14" rim about a foot?

[MuZiZZle]

Im really going to take a screenshot of thos later? Really?

Its as much off the ground as the wheel is tall. So 14" rim about a foot?


I was going along with this for the banter up til now, but what was the video actually about? you got a load of flack for it, was it you hooning or actually showing "mad skill0rZez" ?

[23carragold]

.............

[rey]

I was going along with this for the banter up til now, but what was the video actually about? you got a load of flack for it, was it you hooning or actually showing "mad skill0rZez" ?

The latter from what I remember.

[rey]

Im really going to take a screenshot of thos later? Really?

Its as much off the ground as the wheel is tall. So 14" rim about a foot?

Also I've just watched it again. Several times.

If that wheel leaves the floor at any point, it's barely an inch.

No where near the height of a wheel.

[Jay_]

Also I've just watched it again. Several times.

If that wheel leaves the floor at any point, it's barely an inch.

No where near the height of a wheel.

:y: This man is correct. I actually don't think it even gets anywhere near an inch off the floor. I don't think it leaves the floor full stop.

[hard_corejoeboy]

I was just having a laugh. I think my point was that fun can be had in any car...

I wont bother getting a freeze frame later as it wont make a blind bit of difference you'll just say the air was made of bricks...

[MuZiZZle]

http://i.imgur.com/Ja155.jpg

[Prickle]

hahahaahah

[hard_corejoeboy]

Lmao!

ET style y0!

But seriously its quite easy to get the wheel up at slow speeds on that roundabout...

[wadoryu]

Muzizzle you legend!!

Tbf I think it does actually leave the ground

But probably due to lack of skill, and acting like a bit of a dick on a roundabout.

[Jamie]

Why do you do it to yourself Joe?

lol.

[MuZiZZle]

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/animetoshi/hcec_zps1ab7a701.jpg

dooo deeee, do doo dooo dooo deeee

[Tommo87]

You shouldn't argue with idiots, they bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

[Bound]

http://i.imgur.com/Ja155.jpg

hahahaha

[Carl-h]

I really wanna see this screenshot. Not because it proves anything, other than hardcore_blowjob to be an idiot when it never appears.

[hard_corejoeboy]

Tbh i have better things and do andbim on a smartphone now not a laptop. Just freeze it before it disappears behind the roundabout just before i exit. Its cleary a foot off the ground at that poinr

[Jay_]

Tbh i have better things and do andbim on a smartphone now not a laptop. Just freeze it before it disappears behind the roundabout just before i exit. Its cleary a foot off the ground at that poinr

show me this screen shot. please. I beg you.

[hard_corejoeboy]

Im at work on a phone. ...

[Mochachino]

I was just having a laugh. I think my point was that fun can be had in any car...

Or was your point not saying that you could control a car even a 1.1 or whatever it was because I recall you saying in one thread how on this particular roundabout you raced someone round it and they prperly understeered, but because you are an amazing driver you didnt understeer around it.

Also as for saying its your misses car, I also remember you saying it was your car.

:S

[Jay_]

Or was your point not saying that you could control a car even a 1.1 or whatever it was because I recall you saying in one thread how on this particular roundabout you raced someone round it and they prperly understeered, but because you are an amazing driver you didnt understeer around it.

Also as for saying its your misses car, I also remember you saying it was your car.

:S

So after all this very helpful info, what car you getting?

[Mochachino]

Unfortunately i had to sell it for a ridiculous some of money to get this:

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy135/alig_90/269945_10150303690913619_592778618_9137425_1442688 _n.jpg

as i have a 40 mile round trip to work and a baby on the way so wasn't really practical with buckets etc



So its a 1997 Peugeot 106 XR 1.4



Came with 51,000 miles and FSH and bought for £700

Currently insuring it for £650 fully comp with personal accident and breakdown cover

Tax is £130 a year



So initial thoughts:

It has TINY wheels (skinny 13" tyres LOL) so its epic in the wet hahaha lift off oversteer FTW!

Its not that slow really feels a tiddly bit slower than my old VTR but feels a lot gruntier low down than the VTS did.

Grandad interior needs sorting with rallye or gti items.

Currently getting around 55-60mpg which is brilliant!

Anyways so far i have added S2 Rallye decals and sprayed the wheel trim covers bianca white purely to give it a bit more colour and less old manish.

Future plans are to pull the black wrap krap off the pillars and doors and replace it with carbon fibre wrap.



Really trying to shake the itch to 16v it and whack on some decent suspension making it a real 5 door wolf in sheep's clothing hopefully i should do as its just a cheap DD.



Any comments/suggestions welcome!

Why are you going to so much effort with your 'misses' car?

What fucking ever! Unfortunately google does not have that roundabout on their maps.

What you can't see is how the roundabout goes back on itself at the exit.

I guarantee you 100% if you tried to do that faster in that car you would undeersteer hard off into the kerb on the other side like an awful lot of people have.

This is why most people take that roundabout at about 10mph.

Watch the video again. Watch where i turn in and the back wheel comes about half a foot off the floor

Bear in mind its a completey standard 106 with 13 inch wheels and ridiculous tyres. There is no way round that roundabout faster in that car.

I think you are probably one of those people that say

'yeah we went round a roundabout in my mates scooby at 70mph'

Bollocks ENTERING a roundabout at 70mph and then understeering to 10mph doesn't mean you went round at 70

doesnt sound like just having alaugh to me.

And Jay Honda Accord Type S, going to get a DC5 LSD fitted to the gearbox, decent sound system, decent tyres, mugen spoiler and possibly some recaro's thats what id like to do, if it happens. But yeh Accord Type S. Got a few people interested in the Integra now.

[hard_corejoeboy]

It was my car....briefly.

[rey]

So, briefly, it was amazing?

[Cal]

I'm eating Wheat Crunchies...

I like Wheat Crunchies.

[hard_corejoeboy]

So, briefly, it was amazing?

I've had fun in every vehicle i've ever driven so yes it was :D

[MuZiZZle]

I've had fun in every vehicle i've ever driven so yes it was :D

Being molested by your uncle in a twingo is not exactly what we're on about

[Jay_]

I'm eating Wheat Crunchies...

I like Wheat Crunchies.

The bus I'm on has wi-fi.

Actual wi-fi. Its crazy.

sent from my laptop on a bus.

[Mochachino]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ksGMmf3BgQ

[Mochachino]

Being molested by your uncle in a twingo is not exactly what we're on about

hahahahaha, giving you a rep for that.

[Prickle]

The bus I'm on has wi-fi.

Actual wi-fi. Its crazy.

sent from my laptop on a bus.

That sounds Krazy. Like.

[Mochachino]

that shit cray

[Gabbastard]

buy this (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201237484874076/sort/default/usedcars/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/model/156/make/alfa_romeo/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/g839lh/radius/1500?logcode=p)

[Jazz]

buy this (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201237484874076/sort/default/usedcars/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/model/156/make/alfa_romeo/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/g839lh/radius/1500?logcode=p)

Mate had one.

Loved it at first but it leaked oil all over the road and melted its engine within 6 months of ownership. Now he has a 320d lol.

Sexy to look at and sound lush, but there is a reason why they are so cheap.

Moch- type s, good choice.

[Gabbastard]

my mates had one for four years, nothings gone wrong with it :) high maintenance costs,but he's just come from a red badge honda lol

[Jay_]

That sounds Krazy. Like.

that shit cray

It was.

[Mochachino]

http://img684.yfrog.com/img684/3342/3670033175ba3e50d57b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/bornahustla/IMG_1902.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4952873315_81e46348fe_o.jpg

[rey]

The first white one is pr-oppa gangnam style

[Ashleyp]

They look bloody awful.

Looks like who ever's designed it tried too hard to make a nice sleek luxury car look agressive. the end result is, it doesnt look agressive, or sleek - just shit.

[Mochachino]

I much prefer the euro r to any of them.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/3144052723_947c5ac732.jpg

[Jay_T87]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201237484555155/sort/default/usedcars/price-to/3000/model/skyline/make/nissan/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/radius/1500/quicksearch/true/postcode/rg291qt?logcode=p

This ticks all boxes apart from the age bracket.. and the prefable 4 door choice.

[hard_corejoeboy]

Yuck thats pig ugly!

[Lewis1600]

Perfect!! http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mitsubishi/galant/rear-vr4-1999/714600

Just the age is a bit lower, but they dont seem to change the looks on the newer ones..

2.5 twin turbo, 4 door, leathers, quick, jap, £3.5k..

[Prickle]

Yuck thats pig ugly!

Not sure if Twingo owner is srs.

:drink:

[Jazz]

Perfect!! http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mitsubishi/galant/rear-vr4-1999/714600

Just the age is a bit lower, but they dont seem to change the looks on the newer ones..

2.5 twin turbo, 4 door, leathers, quick, jap, £3.5k..

LOVE the Gallant VR4s!

One of the lost breed of rare Jap saloons that offered serious power in a subtle saloon shell.

[Mochachino]

Perfect!! http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mitsubishi/galant/rear-vr4-1999/714600

Just the age is a bit lower, but they dont seem to change the looks on the newer ones..

2.5 twin turbo, 4 door, leathers, quick, jap, £3.5k..

Ive been looking at them and saw that particular one the other day. Just not keen on the red leather or the wooden steering wheel stolen from a sunken ship

[Jay_T87]

Not sure if Twingo owner is srs.

:drink:

i know.. i love the skyline, too bad i cant afford to run one!

[Jay_]

I like em! If you actually make it look like one of those pics! :y:

[Mochachino]

Nah it wont do Jay, most it will look like one of them is these wheels:

http://site.icbmotorsport.com/Mugen/USDM_2008_Mugen_Civic_Si_GP_Gunmetal_Wheels_1.jpg

Might not even do that yet.

[Jay_T87]

Those wheels would look epic on there.. So less performance or cheaper running costs? or just not the right car?

[Mochachino]

Those wheels would look epic on there.. So less performance or cheaper running costs? or just not the right car?

Just not so keen on skylines mates, unless its the R34. Not so keen on any of the others :(

I like the idea of the sports saloon providing enough power to overtake easily on duel carriageways and maintain a pace, but also have more room, 5 doors, comforts etc. Looking forward to it. Love the look of the Accord too.

[Jay_T87]

Just not so keen on skylines mates, unless its the R34. Not so keen on any of the others :(

I like the idea of the sports saloon providing enough power to overtake easily on duel carriageways and maintain a pace, but also have more room, 5 doors, comforts etc. Looking forward to it. Love the look of the Accord too.

Ok, fair doos.. Well again ignoring your age bracket, what about something like this (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201238485520425/sort/default/usedcars/price-to/4000/model/s4/make/audi/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/rg291qt/page/1/radius/1500?logcode=p)?

A lot of car for the price..

[Mochachino]

Not really feeling that either, just looks so dated! Something that happens far too easily with Audi's imo

[Jay_T87]

Not really feeling that either, just looks so dated! Something that happens far too easily with Audi's imo

Hmmm.. Your a hard man to please!! Ill have another think, its helping pass the time at work quite well :)

[hard_corejoeboy]

Not sure if Twingo owner is srs.

:drink:

Erm...its vile. Like really ugly. Only nice ones are r34 gtr's standardvthat is.

[Lewis1600]

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mitsubishi/evo-iv--vi/mitsubishi-evo-v/703425 - 2003, 2.0 turbo, 4 door, nice interior, looks awesome, quick..

[hard_corejoeboy]

Oh god i couldnt live with that reg!

Bloke down the road has one...always fixing it lol

[Lewis1600]

My mate has one, never had any trouble, just wear and tear stuff..

[rey]

Servicing on evo's is insane, puts me off of them instantly.

[Mochachino]

They're not too bad really, depends how many miles you do, only costly thing is the transmission servicing.

Im settled on an Accord, spotted a bargain too.

[rey]

I'm doing enough miles that it'd have to be serviced 3-4 times a year at least.

No chance. Driven a 6, which was nice, but not enough to make me want one.

Edit: just used the running cost calculator, circa 8k a year to run for me haha

[Tommo87]

Evo servicing is silly and if the YAW control goes you may as well scrap it.

[Carl-h]

When I looked into evo's the servicing isn't actuall that bad. Isn't it just oil changes every 6k or so? Obviously mounts up at a main dealer but I change the oil in whatever car I have every 6k anyway. Okay there might be 'box or diff oils too but they're not difficult. My bike has an oil change and valve adjustment every 150 miles hahaha

[rey]

Every 4.5k/6months

Oils (engine & ayc), filters.

Then plugs, brake fluid & gearbox oil every fourth service.

Belts every 45k.

[Carl-h]

Every 4.5k/6months

Oils (engine & ayc), filters.

Then plugs, brake fluid & gearbox oil every fourth service.

Belts every 45k.

I think for the car your getting that isn't bad at all! Obviously if your doing 30k per year it's a bad idea but if like me you do 10-12 maybe it's not too bad at all really. Depends who's doing it and how much it's costing I suppose.

Only thing stopping me from having one is the insurance. I'd sell my bike car and a kidney and still work my balls off and save like fuck if I could insure one for under 1k. As it is I'm not paying 4k a year on insurance haha.

[rey]

My 21 year old mate is insured for not much over £1k.

Also, going by how much petrol his gets through I'd be looking at around a £5k fuel bill.

Nay chance.

[Carl-h]

Wish I could get insurance like that! I'm 21 too. What sort of miles do you cover? Probably cost me a fair bit in fuel but I wouldn't mind in an evo haha! Literally my dream car alongside an R35 GTR

[rey]

My average for the last 4 years has been 15-18kish.

That's only going to go up in the near future, will be diesel time when that happens.

[Carl-h]

Yeah that's a fair few miles for an evo. Ideal scenario is to have one as a second car but I've got my bike as a toy and do hardly any miles at all on it. Never seem to find the time. Would be the same with a fun car, and why not have a caterham then?

[Jazz]

The servicing costs of an Evo is what made me buy an Impreza STi instead a couple years ago, otherwise my heart was set on an Evo 6 GSR UK spec. Just running it as a daily would be painful, service intervals were tiny and genuine parts cost a lot.

[Mochachino]

Sold the Integra now :( and on the look out for a Honda Accord Type S :)

[Jazz]

I'm sure you'll find a nice one.

A mate has a 2.4 Exec with the same engine, it's an absolutely lovely car.

[Mochachino]

I'm sure you'll find a nice one.

A mate has a 2.4 Exec with the same engine, it's an absolutely lovely car.

Yah, just waiting on the balance to be paid off on mine then im off to view one that I have had my eye on. There are 2 possible cars on the market at the moment. Hopefully their descriptions are accurate!

Got a few plans for it:

Evo 8 Enkei Wheels
Decent Tyres
Yellow Stuff pads
EBC Black discs
BC Coilovers
De-chrome
Double Din HU
8" sub
Component door speakers
Hopefully some recaro recliners
LSD

[Tommo87]

LSD

Things do usually seem better with the addition of LSD.

Good luck finding your new car, hope you get what you want. Btw just have a look at the Mugen catalogue as to what is available for these.

[Mochachino]

Things do usually seem better with the addition of LSD.

Good luck finding your new car, hope you get what you want. Btw just have a look at the Mugen catalogue as to what is available for these.

haha ;) LSdiff

Mugens nice just expensive.

Mugen Grill and rear spoiler look smart. Aswell as their body kit, it almost looks like a high spec OEM model which is good, not an in your face obvious body kit.

[deano_123]

if you take a serious look at evo ownership you will be surprised at the running costs, my 600 bhp 8 got better mpg than my old SC'd EP3

dont get sucked in by the whole philosophy that they are tempermental and require a specialist to change oils, on top of that they're worth bollock all these days anyway

[Tommo87]

Mugen Grill and rear spoiler look smart. Aswell as their body kit, it almost looks like a high spec OEM model which is good, not an in your face obvious body kit.

That be the point of the Mugen stuff for these motors, they seem to have gone for an almost OEM+ to it, yes it is expensive but the fit and finish is always top quality.

[Mochachino]

if you take a serious look at evo ownership you will be surprised at the running costs, my 600 bhp 8 got better mpg than my old SC'd EP3

dont get sucked in by the whole philosophy that they are tempermental and require a specialist to change oils, on top of that they're worth bollock all these days anyway

Agreed, I dont think its as bad as people make out, just the transmission is a higher cost to maintain really.

That be the point of the Mugen stuff for these motors, they seem to have gone for an almost OEM+ to it, yes it is expensive but the fit and finish is always top quality.

Yeh it looks spot on, will be looking at some parts from them.

Just waiting for the balance to be paid on mine then go to view one, just phoned them again and they're holding onto it for me.

[Tommo87]

Let me know what it's like, as I've had these in mind for a while but never knew anyone with one.

[Mochachino]

Will do mate!

[deano_123]

Agreed, I dont think its as bad as people make out, just the transmission is a higher cost to maintain really.


what makes you think the transmission is a higher cost to maintain? yes clutches are expensive, i think my last triple plate set me back around 1600 but i ran a 6 speed box and standard rear diff for over a year without a problem. i did hear many stories of them detonating at over 500 bhp but i didnt have an issue and when i did drive the thing it got death

from my experience of building and running a high spec one i'd say they are a strong all round car and with the correct maintenance and respect they are no more troublesome than any daily beater

[Mochachino]

As in servicing them more regulary and parts cost if anything goes wrong like you just said. Also I know a few people that have built a few Evos and know them inside out that have said that.