Running

[Tc24]

So Sax-P, I went running for the first time tonight. A bit out of the ordinary for me, but fancied a change from swimming/cycling.

I usually ride or swim about 3 times a week and can comfortably do either for a fair while (usually 1hr to 1hr 30) but running...? I did about 25 minutes with some intermittent walking and came back sweating buckets feeling like I was about to die.

I'm not a complete fat fuck, so I don't see why it's so difficult. Does anyone have any tips as to how I can maintain a good running pace without the deathy feel?

[JamesR]

It's all in your head :)

It's strange to explain but when I focus on how out of breath I feel and how tired I'm getting and my legs hurting I stop after a mile or so. But if I start thinking about other things I can happily keep going for 5 miles or more without even getting out of breath.

What sort of pace are you running at too? Only other thing I can suggest is you build upto it slowly by going at a jogging pace, and MAKE SURE you're breathing properly, if you're not your muscles arn't getting the oxygen they need and you're doomed lol

[Ryan]

Running is harder on the body in terms of loading, you also use different muscles in different ways.

Doing it for the first time the body will adapt over a period of time like any training.

[mangojace]

So Sax-P, I went running for the first time tonight. A bit out of the ordinary for me, but fancied a change from swimming/cycling.

I usually ride or swim about 3 times a week and can comfortably do either for a fair while (usually 1hr to 1hr 30) but running...? I did about 25 minutes with some intermittent walking and came back sweating buckets feeling like I was about to die.

I'm not a complete fat fuck, so I don't see why it's so difficult. Does anyone have any tips as to how I can maintain a good running pace without the deathy feel?

Run with music, makes you more relaxed :) When i started running aboout a year and a half ago. I could only run about a mile and i would be out of breathe. Now i dont even sweat until a few miles into it and thats running up hills.

[Giraffe]

Look in to getting a good breathing rhythm, it's important I think

[Tc24]

It's all in your head :)

It's strange to explain but when I focus on how out of breath I feel and how tired I'm getting and my legs hurting I stop after a mile or so. But if I start thinking about other things I can happily keep going for 5 miles or more without even getting out of breath.

What sort of pace are you running at too? Only other thing I can suggest is you build upto it slowly by going at a jogging pace, and MAKE SURE you're breathing properly, if you're not your muscles arn't getting the oxygen they need and you're doomed lol

I'll get thinking while running then to take my mind off it :) 9 minute miles roughly.

Running is harder on the body in terms of loading, you also use different muscles in different ways.

Doing it for the first time the body will adapt over a period of time like any training.

So it'll get better with time...?

Run with music, makes you more relaxed :) When i started running aboout a year and a half ago. I could only run about a mile and i would be out of breathe. Now i dont even sweat until a few miles into it and thats running up hills.

Plugged my headphones in, otherwise wouldn't have even managed to run as far as I did! How often did you run over the last year to get to that stage?

Look in to getting a good breathing rhythm, it's important I think

Breathing seems to be the answer... I didn't really pay any attention to it this time. Will see if I can regulate it a bit better next time I run.

[Leooo]

Different forms of cardio.

I would bet money the next run you will be able to do 3 x the distance or duration, it builds up as fast as it goes.

I'd stick to swimming though, running is actually pretty bad for your joints

[Ryan]

I'd stick to swimming though, running is actually pretty bad for your joints

Totally depends on how you run though.

The loading isnt that bad if the person runs on the correct ground in the right shoes and doesnt run like a spaz

[Leooo]

Totally depends on how you run though.

The loading isnt that bad if the person runs on the correct ground in the right shoes and doesnt run like a spaz

I agree but for the most part I see people on the wrong ground in the wrong shoes and very much like a spaz. ie; down the side of a busy road

[McGuire86]

I agree but for the most part I see people on the wrong ground in the wrong shoes and very much like a spaz. ie; down the side of a busy road

Shoes, terrain etc is bullshit. Of course it will help to run on softer ground when starting off to help strength your tendons, ligaments and muscles. But when they are developed enough then it doesn't really matter.

The human body is designed to run bare foot, for miles everyday. We have just become too soft. I've had the same pair of basic Asics running trainers which were £40 for about 5 years now and run weekly in them in all conditions and my joints are fine.

[Leooo]

Shoes, terrain etc is bullshit. Of course it will help to run on softer ground when starting off to help strength your tendons, ligaments and muscles. But when they are developed enough then it doesn't really matter.

The human body is designed to run bare foot, for miles everyday. We have just become too soft. I've had the same pair of basic Asics running trainers which were £40 for about 5 years now and run weekly in them in all conditions and my joints are fine.

The human body also evolved since then, look at the difference in the spine. It is terrible for your knees if you are a hardcore runner.. for the average joe they need not worry. I just wouldn't choose it over say skipping, swimming or riding

[nicole_]

The human body also evolved since then, look at the difference in the spine. It is terrible for your knees if you are a hardcore runner.. for the average joe they need not worry. I just wouldn't choose it over say skipping, swimming or riding

slightly off topic, but my shins are in absolute agony when i run, does this mean im running like a spaz? lol :sad:

[McGuire86]

The human body also evolved since then, look at the difference in the spine. It is terrible for your knees if you are a hardcore runner.. for the average joe they need not worry. I just wouldn't choose it over say skipping, swimming or riding

That's not an evolution then is it, that's going backwards. And again I don't believe that. Your body will adapt, it's what it's designed to do. It's been proven that humans run better in bare feet anyway than fancy shoes. It's just like wearing a belt whilst lifting, it's ok for some movements but wearing it all the time will just weaken areas.

I smashed my kneecap into 9 pieces about 8 years ago and I've been running for about 6 years, my joints and knees are just fine.

[Ashleyp]

slightly off topic, but my shins are in absolute agony when i run, does this mean im running like a spaz? lol :sad:

I used to get that all the time after basketball matches.

Stretching more / better before helped it, and it doesn't hurt much nowadays.

I guess the impact created by running is the cause, but stretching my legs / ankles more seemed to work.

[haz_pro]

slightly off topic, but my shins are in absolute agony when i run, does this mean im running like a spaz? lol :sad:

Have you had your gaite (sp?) analysed.

[Ryan]

Shoes, terrain etc is bullshit. Of course it will help to run on softer ground when starting off to help strength your tendons, ligaments and muscles. But when they are developed enough then it doesn't really matter.

The human body is designed to run bare foot, for miles everyday. We have just become too soft. I've had the same pair of basic Asics running trainers which were £40 for about 5 years now and run weekly in them in all conditions and my joints are fine.

It's not all bullshit, it's all relative loading. The same reason why you have plyometric sessions often calculated on foot strikes.

Some people generally do have alot more problems with the harder surfaces, remember that back when the 'humans ran barefooted' this wasn't on man made surfaces.

The speed of a session also comes into account,/biomechanics etc... Bla bla la..

Back to the op, yes the body will get used to it. I used to train as a full time athlete however I took a long time off and when I decided to run again I struggled to run over a mile. In the last week this has risen to over 4miles at what is also an increased pace.

[Ryan]

I used to get that all the time after basketball matches.

Stretching more / better before helped it, and it doesn't hurt much nowadays.

I guess the impact created by running is the cause, but stretching my legs / ankles more seemed to work.

Most people bang on about 'shin splints' when infact all it is is tightens of the tissue on the front of the shin.

A simple technique to loosen this up is to do a hold and release of the tissue whilst flexing the foot.

[rorz_vts]

Best way to tell if it's shin splints is if you run your thumb up the inside part of your shin bone (fib iirc) if it hurts like fick then it'll be shin splints. I got injured in the army and now I have permanent shin splits and it bloody sucks as I can't do any impact sports/training of any sort, if I do I can't walk for a week or 2

[Giraffe]

Still surprised nobody has mentioned the OP's breathing technique...

OP, as you said you'd try and "regulate" it etc, I suggest you do some reading in to some breathing patterns. I THINK, don't hold me to it, but just out on a run, breathe in over 3 steps and out over 2, and try and keep that rhythm going. Worked for me anyway, I'd never run at all in my life and still managed 5k on that, and I'm a fat fucker.

[JamesR]

Still surprised nobody has mentioned the OP's breathing technique...

OP, as you said you'd try and "regulate" it etc, I suggest you do some reading in to some breathing patterns. I THINK, don't hold me to it, but just out on a run, breathe in over 3 steps and out over 2, and try and keep that rhythm going. Worked for me anyway, I'd never run at all in my life and still managed 5k on that, and I'm a fat fucker.

I did?

[Giraffe]

I did?

Well screw me sideways, yes, yes you did. Didn't read the last paragraph of your post!

[JamesR]

Well screw me sideways, yes, yes you did. Didn't read the last paragraph of your post!

Silly boy :homme:

[mangojace]

Shoes, terrain etc is bullshit. Of course it will help to run on softer ground when starting off to help strength your tendons, ligaments and muscles. But when they are developed enough then it doesn't really matter.

The human body is designed to run bare foot, for miles everyday. We have just become too soft. I've had the same pair of basic Asics running trainers which were £40 for about 5 years now and run weekly in them in all conditions and my joints are fine.

I havent had any pain in my legs from running 10 miles on tarmac or running up the hills. Barefoot running is best altho i run in asics right now. Altho years ago people wernt running on tarmac were they. Its alot different.

Plugged my headphones in, otherwise wouldn't have even managed to run as far as I did! How often did you run over the last year to get to that stage?


I was normally running 5 days a week, as when i am not running im doing S+C sessions/Boxing.