Obama won - four more years

[xscottxx]

Not sure who has been following the elections but I'm happy that Obama has won, Romney seems like a lunatic and there's no way I'd want him running a country.

What are your thoughts?

[blackie_2k5]

My thoughts are more on the subject of why this couldn't go in the other thread

[shell-vt]

gutted:(

[Mr_P]

My thoughts are more on the subject of why this couldn't go in the other thread

My thoughts are why try this sort of discussion on sax-p? Half the users can't spell politics let alone understand them. Trollololol

[hellonpluto]

moar ov dis

http://lolimage.com/img/ups/64694628421332104404.jpeg

[xscottxx]

hadn't seen another thread! feel free to delete/lock this

[Brettles1986]

It's America ... who cares.

[Mochachino]

It's America ... who cares.

Because it effects us too. Or was this sarcasm otherwise it backs up mr_p lol

[Brettles1986]

Because it effects us too. Or was this sarcasm otherwise it backs up mr_p lol

It wasn't sarcasm, could someone explain how it effects us in any major form. I will then admit to being naive if this is the case.

[welshpug]

they are, albeit a declining, a major power in the world, shame china gets pretty much nothing at all coverage wise, they're the biggest growing power in the world.

Any fuckups economy wise over there has a big impact here, ford is massive over there but struggling, they're cutting back massively in the UK, no Transit vans produced in the uk any more, stuff like that.

[Jay_]

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad350/jay-young1991/obamalol.jpg

[D1zzyman]

It wasn't sarcasm, could someone explain how it effects us in any major form. I will then admit to being naive if this is the case.

i think in an indirect way it affects the whole world. example (military power)

[Ryan]

It wasn't sarcasm, could someone explain how it effects us in any major form. I will then admit to being naive if this is the case.

Just look at how the global economy is effected by the American economy. If the American economy crashes massively you can pretty much guarentee ours will follow.

[TomT]

Thought i'd share this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9xWAAH6j7k&feature=plcp) since I found it amusing

[Oli_K]

Thought i'd share this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9xWAAH6j7k&feature=plcp) since I found it amusing

i liked this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7hRKSRkyfs

and this haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkL8KOBS2g

[christoph]

LOL at the pathetic people crying because romney lost, seriously need to get a grip.

As for the actual thing as a whole, really don't get why people over here at getting so worked up about it. . . whatever happens we/you have no input on the whole thing. Need to chill the fuck out!

[Oli_K]

LOL at the pathetic people crying because romney lost, seriously need to get a grip.

As for the actual thing as a whole, really don't get why people over here at getting so worked up about it. . . whatever happens we/you have no input on the whole thing. Need to chill the fuck out!

all the more reason to worry about it!

[christoph]

all the more reason to worry about it!

Why? You can't do anything about who wins. So why waste your life worrying! seriously. . get a life.

[Ryan]

Why? You can't do anything about who wins. So why waste your life worrying! seriously. . get a life.

Sme people take interest in the world around them.

Others bury their heads in the sand.....

[McGuire86]

Preferred Obama to win, one of Romney's main objectives was to go to war with Iran. That would of fucked us over big time, paying out extremely too much how it is with Afghanistan and previously Iraq.

Obama isn't what he makes out to be though, he made alot of promises that he couldn't keep. Tbf though the previous Congress was majorly Republican so anytime he wanted to do anything the Senate blocked him. However, now the Democrats have slightly the upper hand in the Congress, he may be able to make progress with his plans. This term we will see what he's really all about.

[Oli_K]

Why? You can't do anything about who wins. So why waste your life worrying! seriously. . get a life.

no you cant and no i wouldnt want anyone to waste their life worrying about it, however i do understand how american economy/government has an affect over here so personally im happy with the outcome

[blackie_2k5]

It's all about the economy

[D1zzyman]

its a domino effect

[christoph]

Sme people take interest in the world around them.

Others bury their heads in the sand.....

No some people just don't have anything better to do than argue over meaningless contexts.

All rather sad really.

[McGuire86]

No some people just don't have anything better to do than argue over meaningless contexts.

All rather sad really.

Ignorance is bliss.

[christoph]

Ignorance is bliss.

That may be so. But i'm not the one stressing over pointless things that are out of my power. So really who are the real saddo's?. . the ones getting on with there lives fighting and expressing there opinions on issues that they can ACTAULLY influence i:e the UK election. or people constantly prowling over issues that they can do diddly squat about. i:e an election in another country with which they have no say on the outcome.

[Ryan]

No some people just don't have anything better to do than argue over meaningless contexts.

All rather sad really.

All I see is you wanting to argue and insult whilst theres an adult discussion going on....

Oh the irony...

[christoph]

All I see is you wanting to argue and insult whilst theres an adult discussion going on....

Oh the irony...

Seriously mate get off your high horse. . . just because someone else has an opinion that becomes an issue for you i take it? Fine almighty sir. I'll leave you boys to talking complete bullshit :y:

[Ryan]

Seriously mate get off your high horse. . . just because someone else has an opinion that becomes an issue for you i take it? Fine almighty sir. I'll leave you boys to talking complete bullshit :y:

There's having an opinion and throwing out insults for the sake of it...

Make of that what you want.

[Ashleyp]

No some people just don't have anything better to do than argue over meaningless contexts.

All rather sad really.

You're doing the exact same thing on the internet.

Hyporicy I tell thee!

[christoph]

You're doing the exact same thing on the internet.

Hyporicy I tell thee!

Ignorance is bliss.

What he said ^^

[McGuire86]

That may be so. But i'm not the one stressing over pointless things that are out of my power. So really who are the real saddo's?. . the ones getting on with there lives fighting and expressing there opinions on issues that they can ACTAULLY influence i:e the UK election. or people constantly prowling over issues that they can do diddly squat about. i:e an election in another country with which they have no say on the outcome.

No one is stressing, people are just giving their opinions on the matter. If anyone is stressing then it's you over the fact their is a discussion going on about something you do not care about.

And it is not pointless, if it was the election in Luxembourg or the election in Peru then that may be pointless to you. However the decisions made by the Americans will more than likely have some effect on your life, even if you are not aware of it.

Sure you can turn a blind eye and say I don't give a fuck, but it opens your eyes abit to have an understanding on what's going on around you.

[Jazz]

Glad Obama won, lesser of two evils.

Romney would have been bad. Persuing war with Iran is a stupid notion entirely, especially given the current state of Iraq/Afghanistan and the economic consequences on top.

[D1zzyman]

just to add lols http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1yh8JfEbgA&feature=g-u-u#

[Ashleyp]

I feel that I should say, Romney is a prick, but because of the way the system for getting a bill passed in the US works, it'd have been pretty hard for him to do all the things he had in his mandate.

nevertheless, I'm glad Obama won. I watched his speach live, it was unreal. He's a charismatic man for sure.

Republicans were never going to win, basing their policies on racism just doesn't cut it in the modern world.

Democrats had their strategy much more in tow with what people care about. As the first black president of the US [Bill Gates] once said; "it's the economy, stupid".

[Rogue_Shadow]

Still love this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1aBaX9GPSaQ#t=33s)

[christoph]

No one is stressing, people are just giving their opinions on the matter. If anyone is stressing then it's you over the fact their is a discussion going on about something you do not care about.

And it is not pointless, if it was the election in Luxembourg or the election in Peru then that may be pointless to you. However the decisions made by the Americans will more than likely have some effect on your life, even if you are not aware of it.

Sure you can turn a blind eye and say I don't give a fuck, but it opens your eyes abit to have an understanding on what's going on around you.

You can't even grasp what i'm typing so i have no time for you.

Your discussing something you have no power against. Regardless of how it effects us! Learn to read perhaps?

[Oli_K]

You can't even grasp what i'm typing so i have no time for you.

Your discussing something you have no power against. Regardless of how it effects us! Learn to read perhaps?

but we aren't asking for the vote, we are just taking an interest in what the result was

[Ryan]

but we aren't asking for the vote, we are just taking an interest in what the result was

Just ignore him. Anyone with that much anger towards a subject generally does so because they do not understand it :zainy:

[McGuire86]

You can't even grasp what i'm typing so i have time for you.

Your discussing something you have no power against. Regardless of how it effects us! Learn to read perhaps?

You have time for me ? Nice to know.

Do you have power over everything you discuss in life ? Do you even understand the meaning of a discussion ? Why are you so irate over people voicing their opinions regarding a huge event ?

I'm fully aware I have no influence over the American presidential elections. I also have no power over professional football teams, I guess I should stop discussing the weekends games on a Monday morning at work ? I really don't understand your logic.

[Ashleyp]

You can't even grasp what i'm typing so i have no time for you.

Your discussing something you have no power against. Regardless of how it effects us! Learn to read perhaps?

learn y0 language before telling others to learn. Init.

[Jazz]

Your discussing something you have no power against. Regardless of how it effects us!

Highly amusing observation :clapping:

[christoph]

Just ignore him. Anyone with that much anger towards a subject generally does so because they do not understand it :zainy:

I studied government and politics for 2 years whilst at college so i know more than most whats politics is all about and effects it has. Thought it was all bollocks then and still do now. Either way not exactly hard to understand it.

Once again though, people turning someone else's OPINION into something bigger to make them look better. Really?


You have time for me ? Nice to know.

Do you have power over everything you discuss in life ? Do you even understand the meaning of a discussion ? Why are you so irate over people voicing their opinions regarding a huge event ?

I'm fully aware I have no influence over the American presidential elections. I also have no power over professional football teams, I guess I should stop discussing the weekends games on a Monday morning at work ? I really don't understand your logic.

Simple typo don't get your hopes up.

Of course you do, massive things like buying a new car. . ro what your going to have for dinner. and once again, because someone elses opinion is different to yours, you label it something else.

And if you talk about what the manager should do and why a player isn't good enough for a team and all that lame bollocks. But talking about how good the game was etc etc then yes thats just discussing the game.

[christoph]

Enter the bandwagon lol

[Ashleyp]

I studied government and politics for 2 years whilst at college so i know more than most whats politics is all about and effects it has. Thought it was all bollocks then and still do now. Either way not exactly hard to understand it.

Once again though, people turning someone else's OPINION into something bigger to make them look better. Really?




Simple typo don't get your hopes up.

Of course you do, massive things like buying a new car. . ro what your going to have for dinner. and once again, because someone elses opinion is different to yours, you label it something else.

And if you talk about what the manager should do and why a player isn't good enough for a team and all that lame bollocks. But talking about how good the game was etc etc then yes thats just discussing the game.


There's a difference between having an opinion, and being incorrect.

You fall into the latter, and judging by the vast majority of your posts across the forum, you're nowhere near the educated man you claim to be.

[Jazz]

But talking about how good the game was etc etc then yes thats just discussing the game.

That is just discussing the game, this is just discussing the election. What is the difference?

During the discussion of the game, you will more than likely discuss the good points and bad points of key players, yes? Same with discussing the elections here.

There is much to discuss in this world which we have no power over. It still affects us in various different ways.

Or if you prefer we can all just sit tight be totally oblivious to what goes on in the world around us, and use our hollow heads for storing nuts for the winter.

[christoph]

There's a difference between having an opinion, and being incorrect.

You fall into the latter, and judging by the vast majority of your posts across the forum, you're nowhere near the educated man you claim to be.

WTF are you talking about. You can have an opinion even if its wrong can't you? and you reckon i'm uneducated! God help us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

Have a read dumbarse.

[Ryan]

An educated man rarely dishes out insults in a discussion......

Food for thought?

For those wanting to discuss the election, many are claiming poor man management again being a key reason for the loss. Irrespective of the frontman being Romney, key states were lost from what was seen as an easy win thanks to bad pr on the back of silly campaigns.

The big money invested this time round seemed to have been spent very unwisely, somethingim sure the investors will not be happy about.

[McGuire86]

Choosing what you're having for dinner is a 'massive thing' is it ? I would say the price of what you're paying for it, is more important. And who ultimately raises the prices of food ? The World's leading nations.
Buying a new car you say? So you will take into account the prices of petrol, and what massive event in the past 10 years has had a serious effect on oil prices ?

What did you do whilst studying politics ? Sleep ? You don't really have much of an idea on what you're talking about.

People have every right to discuss what effects them in life and like it or not the decisions made by America will have an input on your life. So like I said previously, it's better to take an interest in the world you live in than turn a blind eye. If everyone did that then we might aswell just be cattle.

[Jazz]

Irrespective of the frontman being Romney, key states were lost from what was seen as an easy win thanks to bad pr on the back of silly campaigns.

The big money invested this time round seemed to have been spent very unwisely, somethingim sure the investors will not be happy about.

Fair point, although fair to say the so-called bad PR and silly campaigns would have been viewed as political genius had he won?

I'm just not convinced Romney could see the bigger picture, and thankfully the US public could see that. A trigger-happy foreign policy is the last thing the USA or indeed the world needs right now. Obama has played his cards close to his chest in that regard and it's worked to his advantage, and rightly so.

[christoph]

An educated man rarely dishes out insults in a discussion......

Food for thought?

For those wanting to discuss the election, many are claiming poor man management again being a key reason for the loss. Irrespective of the frontman being Romney, key states were lost from what was seen as an easy win thanks to bad pr on the back of silly campaigns.

The big money invested this time round seemed to have been spent very unwisely, somethingim sure the investors will not be happy about.

Theres only so much stupid i can read tbf.

Choosing what you're having for dinner is a 'massive thing' is it ? I would say the price of what you're paying for it, is more important. And who ultimately raises the prices of food ? The World's leading nations.
Buying a new car you say? So you will take into account the prices of petrol, and what massive event in the past 10 years has had a serious effect on oil prices ?

What did you do whilst studying politics ? Sleep ? You don't really have much of an idea on what you're talking about.

People have every right to discuss what effects them in life and like it or not the decisions made by America will have an input on your life. So like I said previously, it's better to take an interest in the world you live in than turn a blind eye. If everyone did that then we might aswell just be cattle.

If thats what you think about before buying food or a car then you really really really need to lighten up. If not and your just trust being awkward for the hell of it. Then well that speaks volumes.

[Jazz]

Theres only so much stupid i can read tbf.
.

Then kindly find a new thread?

Some of us would prefer to engage in a mildly productive conversation in this particular thread.

Many thanks.

[McGuire86]

I'm making a point about having an understanding about the bigger picture. Something you clearly don't understand.

[Oli_K]

so much for the debate on Obama winning and Romney losing.

threads of this nature never last long

ibtl.

[D1zzyman]

some people need to chill the fcuk out. :panic:

[McGuire86]

I think the way Obama handled the Hurricane situation gave him a few extra votes.

[Jazz]

so much for the debate on Obama winning and Romney losing.

threads of this nature never last long

ibtl.

It shouldn't be ibtl.

One single member is expressing a distaste for the thread topic. Hence he needs to find a new thread he can make a more positive contribution to.

The rest of us should be able to talk about world issues in peace lol.

McGuire- he handled it very well and he knew all eyes were on him. Fair play, it was the responsible thing.

[Ryan]

I think the way Obama handled the Hurricane situation gave him a few extra votes.

Couldnt have happened at a more crucial time for either man. Any political gain perceived to have been taken by either man would have been royally torn into by the opposition.

The thread also shouldn't need a lock, if someone wants to just kick up a fuss and try to get it locked they will be prevented from posting for a while...

[Oli_K]

some people need to chill the fcuk out. :panic:

One person

It shouldn't be ibtl.

One single member is expressing a distaste for the thread topic. Hence he needs to find a new thread he can make a more positive contribution to.

The rest of us should be able to talk about world issues in peace lol.

McGuire- he handled it very well and he knew all eyes were on him. Fair play, it was the responsible thing.

True, im just being mystic meg.

[christoph]

Then kindly find a new thread?

Some of us would prefer to engage in a mildly productive conversation in this particular thread.

Many thanks.

Well if people wanted a "midly productive conversation" as you boldly put it. Then what was wrong with people leaving my opinion as my opinion and moving on. Instead of basically trying to turn round a say out right that i'm wrong therefore i'm the bad guy.

I'm making a point about having an understanding about the bigger picture. Something you clearly don't understand.

"i live my life a quarter mile at a time" Hate to have to quote FAF but its true. I live a happy care free life and don't burden my days worrying about meaningless stuff. Sometime not seeing the "bigger picture" lets you enjoy life more than most. Sitting and worrying about things that you can't control is near pointless.


Have your "lets all pretend to be big grown up people and dispute any views not adjacent to ours" fed up of this shit now anyway.

[Jazz]

LOL at the pathetic people crying because romney lost, seriously need to get a grip.

As for the actual thing as a whole, really don't get why people over here at getting so worked up about it. . . whatever happens we/you have no input on the whole thing. Need to chill the fuck out!

Why? You can't do anything about who wins. So why waste your life worrying! seriously. . get a life.

I'm not about to get into a debate with you as quite frankly I don't have the time or patience, but the above posts are what you first put into the thread.

Telling people to "chill the fuck out" and "Get a grip" is not just sharing opinion, it's being provocative for the sake of it.

You've expressed your opinion clearly enough. Now just relax and let others talk more enthusiastically about it.

[McGuire86]

"i live my life a quarter mile at a time" Hate to have to quote FAF but its true. I live a happy care free life and don't burden my days worrying about meaningless stuff. Sometime not seeing the "bigger picture" lets you enjoy life more than most. Sitting and worrying about things that you can't control is near pointless.


Have your "lets all pretend to be big grown up people and dispute any views not adjacent to ours" fed up of this shit now anyway.

For fuck sake, we are not sitting worrying, we are having a discussion. Do you know the difference ? You can have an opinion but refusing to learn just shows how ignorant you are. If you think the U.S. election is 'meaningless well you have a lot to learn don't you.
And quoting a shitty film to conclude your input says it all really. Educating morons is like pissing in the wind. I'm done with discussing it to you.

[imDan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkL8KOBS2g

ahaha love it.

[kcsaxo]

Gla he won tb, he seems to be the only politician who answers questions directly as apposed to the usual BS such as:

Well figures show that....
in answer to your questions let me first point to....
we must compare this with....

Always tring to redirect the answer to something that is completely unrelated. I hate politics and every a-hole that is associated with it. Always promising the world but does nothing once elected, or makes things worse.

[Bound]

You can't even grasp what i'm typing so i have no time for you.

Your discussing something you have no power against. Regardless of how it effects us! Learn to read perhaps?

So?

Because we can't influence something we shouldn't discuss it?

That's utterly ignorant and moronic.

[Bound]

Well if people wanted a "midly productive conversation" as you boldly put it. Then what was wrong with people leaving my opinion as my opinion and moving on. Instead of basically trying to turn round a say out right that i'm wrong therefore i'm the bad guy.



"i live my life a quarter mile at a time" Hate to have to quote FAF but its true. I live a happy care free life and don't burden my days worrying about meaningless stuff. Sometime not seeing the "bigger picture" lets you enjoy life more than most. Sitting and worrying about things that you can't control is near pointless.


Have your "lets all pretend to be big grown up people and dispute any views not adjacent to ours" fed up of this shit now anyway.

In this post I'm going to discuss this assertion. It reminds me of 'YOLO'. You may think you live your life 'a quarter mile at a time', but you don't, otherwise you would make senselessly irrational decisions (such as posting drivel on saxperience :detective:). However no one really does live like that as it's impractical at best and at worst, destructive, dangerous and harmful. I'm going to call you as being quite young and naive, as you've mentioned your A-level government and politics qualification it says to me this could still be fresh in your mind and not too long ago, of course this is all conjecture and I could be wrong about you personally. That's actually not important.

What you said about not worrying about the bigger picture, and ignorance often being bliss, I actually envy that ignorance, a part of me wishes I could live like that. Unless you're going to orchestrate change on a grand scale what's the point of discussing it is effectively your argument. While it's sad that most people lack the means or motivation for change, I do think your attitude of placing "what car to buy" and "what you're having for dinner" above global social, political and economic issues is perhaps slightly self centred and arrogant, I'm not saying "lend a thought to those starving Ethopians who are going hungry instead" as that does them no good either. I'm just saying compassion is a good thing, and you'd do well to realise that, even if you can't make a change it doesn't mean your blasé attitude should stink.

2c

[christoph]

So?

Because we can't influence something we shouldn't discuss it?

That's utterly ignorant and moronic.

Dude this was like 2 days ago. . move on.

[christoph]

In this post I'm going to discuss this assertion. It reminds me of 'YOLO'. You may think you live your life 'a quarter mile at a time', but you don't, otherwise you would make senselessly irrational decisions (such as posting drivel on saxperience :detective:). However no one really does live like that as it's impractical at best and at worst, destructive, dangerous and harmful. I'm going to call you as being quite young and naive, as you've mentioned your A-level government and politics qualification it says to me this could still be fresh in your mind and not too long ago, of course this is all conjecture and I could be wrong about you personally. That's actually not important.

What you said about not worrying about the bigger picture, and ignorance often being bliss, I actually envy that ignorance, a part of me wishes I could live like that. Unless you're going to orchestrate change on a grand scale what's the point of discussing it is effectively your argument. While it's sad that most people lack the means or motivation for change, I do think your attitude of placing "what car to buy" and "what you're having for dinner" above global social, political and economic issues is perhaps slightly self centred and arrogant, I'm not saying "lend a thought to those starving Ethopians who are going hungry instead" as that does them no good either. I'm just saying compassion is a good thing, and you'd do well to realise that, even if you can't make a change it doesn't mean your blasé attitude should stink.

2c

Hope after all that you feel better. Thanks for the input.

[Ryan]

Good to have mr bound back :D