View Full Version : Seeing someone key your car? The legal way.
Aaron
13th December 2012, 13:18
For example.
Your just about to walk out your door and you see a random key your car.
What do you do? (only legal options)
MuZiZZle
13th December 2012, 13:19
citizens arrest, take that motherfucker down
Giraffe
13th December 2012, 13:21
citizens arrest, take that motherfucker down
This...
Aaron
13th December 2012, 13:22
Hes running, you catch up with him.....
what is adequate force to take him down? rugby charge?
then how do you keep him there till mr plod arrives......
Alanapone
13th December 2012, 13:23
citizens arrest, take that motherfucker down
+1... This is all you can do to be honest. Everyone should know how to carry out a citizens arrest. I don't but am going to find out!
Obviously, you can't rugby tackle the peep, but it would be handy to know how and what legal things you need to know and comply with to save yourself from prosecution for wrongfully arrest/ false imprisonment.
dondan
13th December 2012, 13:23
I'd take him down and ring the law.
Played no.8 for years, don't care how big they are they're going to the deck.
Jizanthapus
13th December 2012, 13:23
Is this actually happening now or something?
MuZiZZle
13th December 2012, 13:24
Hes running, you catch up with him.....
what is adequate force to take him down? rugby charge?
then how do you keep him there till mr plod arrives......
as much as it takes, but not more?
then pin him?
dondan
13th December 2012, 13:24
I'm licensed to carry and use handcuffs if I feel the need to, that would help the situation if I actually did carry them.
Giraffe
13th December 2012, 13:24
Hes running, you catch up with him.....
what is adequate force to take him down? rugby charge?
then how do you keep him there till mr plod arrives......
Kick the legs out or yeah, just grab the fucker and bring him down. To hold him, choke the bastard until they just accept it.
Giraffe
13th December 2012, 13:25
Is this actually happening now or something?
I doubt he's: -
a) running after someone and managing to post or
b) caught someone and posting on saxp asking for advice on how to keep said person pinned down...
Dave_P
13th December 2012, 13:25
Kick his legs while he's running and watch him crash & burn.
MuZiZZle
13th December 2012, 13:27
Such an arrest can only be made if it does not appear reasonably practicable for a police constable to make the arrest instead, and if the person making the arrest has reasonable grounds to believe that such an arrest is necessary to prevent the person being arrested from: (a) causing physical injury to himself or any other person; (b) suffering physical injury; (c) causing loss of or damage to property; or (d) making off before a constable can assume responsibility for him.
Anyone attempting such an arrest should also inform the subject of what is being done doing as soon as is reasonably possible, explaining the reason for arresting them, and what offence it is believed that they have committed. Anyone carrying out an arrest can only use reasonable force when arresting the person in question. This is a matter of degree, obviously.
Just use your loaf really?
Tom5190
13th December 2012, 13:29
I doubt he's: -
a) running after someone and managing to post or
b) caught someone and posting on saxp asking for advice on how to keep said person pinned down...
Lmao it would be funny though if he was mid chase updating sax-p for advise
Giraffe
13th December 2012, 13:33
Lmao it would be funny though if he was mid chase updating sax-p for advise
Daft thing is, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
josh11490
13th December 2012, 13:34
I doubt he's: -
a) running after someone and managing to post or
b) caught someone and posting on saxp asking for advice on how to keep said person pinned down...
Or this has happened, he's caught the guy, kicked the shit out of him, got do e for kicking the shit into the guy who keyed car and is now asking what he should've done.
Aaron
13th December 2012, 13:39
+1... This is all you can do to be honest. Everyone should know how to carry out a citizens arrest. I don't but am going to find out!
Obviously, you can't rugby tackle the peep, but it would be handy to know how and what legal things you need to know and comply with to save yourself from prosecution for wrongfully arrest/ false imprisonment.
as above^
only reason, just would be good to know.
Some of the comments though haha:y:
Tom5190
13th December 2012, 13:48
Daft thing is, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Haha will be asking for short cuts through his town in a minute and advise on how to run after falling over a fence
matt_vtr_15a
13th December 2012, 13:50
Just take them down with reasonable force and say, 'you're nicked son, whatever you say may be given in evidence so shut the fuck up'!!
I saw a citizens arrest about 3 week ago actually...
some chav twat on his £50 dual suspension bike pedling thru a town like a maniac and ploughed straight into an old woman and floored her...
It was quite busy so in an instant crowd formed and guy grabbed the chav and made him sit on the floor, the police came and cuffed him and chucked him in the back of the car whilst the paramedic tended to the old woman...
Happened right outside costa coffee so it was quite a good day for people watching :y:
Just use your head, if someone keys your car and you want to get legal run after them, catch them and use reasonable force to restrain them!!
Just try not to cut, bruise them etc as if it's their word against yours the scumbags normally come out victorious these days!!
I'd personally baseball bat the jelous little prick!! As he will get fuck all punishment from the legal system...
Bean
13th December 2012, 13:54
Tbh if I caught someone keying my car, I would be taking no legal action! I'd chop the cunts fingers off even if it meant I was to see the long arm of the lawwwww
Bean
13th December 2012, 13:56
Or i would take him down like the cop does on 21 jump street!!
Ryancoyle
13th December 2012, 14:00
Punch him on the back of the head:boxing: when the police come just say he fell;)
matt_vtr_15a
13th December 2012, 14:04
Punch him on the back of the head:boxing: when the police come just say he fell;)
Probably do more harm to your knuckles than the other guy... I'm forever smashing back of my head on shit... it's like concrete now!!
Repeatedly smash the back of his head into the kerb or something could work though.... or just kerb stomp like American History X
However I must warn you that when the police turn up they may not quite see it as a citizens arrest...
http://paperspaceships.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/The-curb-stomp.jpg
Chris_
13th December 2012, 14:12
knock the fucker out lol
m4tt274
13th December 2012, 14:17
hes not going to ring the police and say 'i keyed this car so he punched me boohoo' just knock him the f**k out! you would be surprised how powerful you will be if your in a rage!
LSOfreak
13th December 2012, 14:41
just do enough to show him whose boss lol
wicked-vtr
13th December 2012, 17:49
Begin carrying zip ties for just such a situation. Get him to the floor then zip tie his wrists to his ankles lol.
Ashleyp
13th December 2012, 17:52
key their face... with an axe.
PS: nice use of the face to the kerb pic Matt. such a quality film that!
lukebeard
13th December 2012, 17:53
1inch plastic waste pipe up his ass, feed up some nice rusty barb wire through the pipe. pull the pipe out and watch the fucker dance as you pull him to the cop shop lol
Ashleyp
13th December 2012, 17:54
1inch plastic waste pipe up his ass, feed up some nice rusty barb wire through the pipe. pull the pipe out and watch the fucker dance as you pull him to the cop shop lol
Sounds kinda gay...
knight-22
13th December 2012, 17:54
Tbh if I caught someone keying my car, I would be taking no legal action! I'd chop the cunts fingers off
Easier said than done..
matt_vtr_15a
13th December 2012, 17:56
key their face... with an axe.
PS: nice use of the face to the kerb pic Matt. such a quality film that!
I must watch it again, great film :y:
lukebeard
13th December 2012, 17:56
Sounds kinda gay...
only if it gives you a hard on.
12u55
13th December 2012, 18:10
You can claim self defence, if you want to punch him if... if... 'you were iminent danger/fear for your personal safety'. Say he was using the key as a weapon and you had to dis-arm. The popo won't do much, you might get 15 quid if the courts do him/her.
Better just flooring them, then raid their wallet, then get where they live off their liscence, then kick them on their way.
Saxoladlesta
13th December 2012, 18:29
I'm licensed to carry and use handcuffs if I feel the need to, that would help the situation if I actually did carry them.
What job do you do?
Edit: pretty much correct what people have been saying on here. You can do a citizens arrest for 4 reasons.
To prevent someone making off before a PC resumes responsibility.
To prevent someone causing loss or damage to property
To prevent someone suffering physical injury
To prevent a person causing injury to themselves or others
If you're going to sit on someone just make sure they can breathe properly otherwise they could suffer from positional asphyxia
Prickle
13th December 2012, 18:51
Well they wouldnt do it again put it that way.
So many lifeless pricks around, they all need dealing with.
clarkey1269
13th December 2012, 20:54
catch him, sit on him, tell him if he moves you will bum him...
timmyu
13th December 2012, 22:35
Sorry but I'd just kick the shit out of them,unless they of cause they were bigger /harder than me them I would consider the legal alternative :panic:
L33h
13th December 2012, 23:07
Id put him in my boot and drive as far as i could be bothered..... You can guess the rest
Lukus-vtr
14th December 2012, 00:08
I know someone who performed a 'Citizen's arrest' and had this person pinned down whilst on the phone to the police. Apparently the police told him he had to get off him until the police arrived. By which time he was long gone.
106gavlar
14th December 2012, 00:25
Legal citizens arrest, illegal smack the shit out of him!
blackie_2k5
14th December 2012, 00:29
in all fairness i wouldnt give a toss about a legal way
it wasnt legal when he keyed it..so he wont be bothered how legal you are when you run him over yeah?
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