292Bhp Chevvy

[Brettles1986]

Please don't hate me

Needed a cheap car and this came up:

http://www.caranddriving.com/images/used/large/chevkalossport%202005.jpg

Paid £1925 for it.

The car is immaculate.

06 Plate (so car in pic is not my actual car but is the same colour)
59,000 Miles
Full service history

Has full leather, Aircon, Cup holders etc.

Old Japanese technology therefore seemes worth the punt and other than the fact that it is slow as shit I really like it.

Plans:

40mm Lowering kit
Upgrade lighting to LED and brighter headlight (Osram nightbreakers)
Wheels to go anthracite (Possibly)
Clear side repeater lenses
Upgrade standard speakers


Cue abuse!

[Prickle]

Dat Chevy





I think

[Brettles1986]

Tis indeed, the plan is to keep it (fingers crossed) until my loan finishes which will then allow me to look for something better.

I have to be honest though, it surprised me on its features for such a low end motor.

[Liamjrhodes]

You say you needed a cheap car but paid near on 2 grand, thats not a cheap car haha

[Brettles1986]

You say you needed a cheap car but paid near on 2 grand, thats not a cheap car haha

Cheap in terms of running and maintenance costs I mean (the fact that it is a hell of a lot younger than any of my previous cars leads me to believe it will be more reliable *fingers crossed*), £2000 isn't exactly bank breaking but neither is it a feeble amount.

[JoeHindle]

Oh sweet Jesus Brett, what have you done...

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2, to piss Chr15 off.

[Prickle]

You say you needed a cheap car but paid near on 2 grand, thats not a cheap car haha

Yeah exactly. He should of bought old vag. Vag is reliable they said.

[LSOfreak]

You say you needed a cheap car but paid near on 2 grand, thats not a cheap car haha

thats a very good point lol
for a cheap motor id get a £500 106 diesel tbh! for which you would have already saved £1500 on the price of the car

[Brettles1986]

Yeah exactly. He should of bought old vag. Vag is reliable they said.

They are reliable but they hold their value well, i.e a MK4 Golf TDI in good condition on around 100K will still cost in the region of £2K

Oh sweet Jesus Brett, what have you done...

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2, to piss Chr15 off.

I agree that my street rep has taken a hit, having said that I drive it to work and back only, any other time I walk as everything is close by.

Only time will tell if it has actually been a reliable car.

[Giraffe]

I don't understand. You've posted a picture of a Chevrolet Kalos by mistake I think mate.

[Brettles1986]

Yeah exactly. He should of bought old vag. Vag is reliable they said.

I don't understand. You've posted a picture of a Chevrolet Kalos by mistake I think mate.

Oh shit yeah ...

Im being serious, bring on the banter, i'm game!

[Giraffe]

Oh shit yeah ...

Im being serious, bring on the banter, i'm game!

There's no banter to be had mate, I'm just disappointed. Hopefully it will do what you want it to, that's all there is really to be said. Not what I'd have chosen, but each to their own.

[Brettles1986]

There's no banter to be had mate, I'm just disappointed. Hopefully it will do what you want it to, that's all there is really to be said. Not what I'd have chosen, but each to their own.

I put it down to getting old and boring around 40 years early!

[Ross]

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6982/shitthread.jpg

[Prickle]

What wheels ect go on these?

[Brettles1986]

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6982/shitthread.jpg

Haven't you got a job to do?

What wheels ect go on these?

Not a clue right now, it didn't even enter my mind at time of purchase as it has the wheels in the picture already.

In an ideal world I would have it dumped on coilies with some BBS RS's and a touch of negative camber.

On a side note I just bought some of this for it:

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[Giraffe]

I put it down to getting old and boring around 40 years early!

So you buy a Volvo, or a Jag... Not a Chevrolet!

As for modifying it... Don't, just don't.

[Brettles1986]

So you buy a Volvo, or a Jag... Not a Chevrolet!

As for modifying it... Don't, just don't.

I don't want to be paying through the arse for insurance but I see your point.

To address the Chevrolet comment also, Chevrolet is a rebranded Daewoo for the British market, with Daewoo being Japanese and Japanese cars being reliable, i'm hoping this proves to be a wise purchase.

[knight-22]

Oh jesus, your actually modifying it? Do you really want to attract attention to it..

I feel bad for you mate, pm me your address and i'll buy these for you.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50-Brown-Kraft-Paper-Large-Food-Takeaway-Carrier-Bags-11-50-x-10-x-5-50-/320789545692?pt=UK_Packaging_Materials&hash=item4ab08c02dc

[LSOfreak]

i'd save for a decent car to mod tbh
dont waste any more money on it, it was already an expensive car to start with :D

[Giraffe]

I don't want to be paying through the arse for insurance but I see your point.

To address the Chevrolet comment also, Chevrolet is a rebranded Daewoo for the British market, with Daewoo being Japanese and Japanese cars being reliable, i'm hoping this proves to be a wise purchase.

Yeah I guess. I'd have gone for a Toyota Celica myself. Dunno what insurance would be like though...

[Brettles1986]

Yeah I guess. I'd have gone for a Toyota Celica myself. Dunno what insurance would be like though...

Another advantage to having this is that my sister is a named driver on it so that she can drive it with her having accidents and being a relatively inexperienced driver ... it's only a 1.4 and whole 93bhp

[Giraffe]

One of the girls here has one. She's never complained of any problems so who knows. As long as it gets from A to B I guess that's what counts.

[Brettles1986]

One of the girls here has one. She's never complained of any problems so who knows. As long as it gets from A to B I guess that's what counts.

Exactly, although it doesn't stop the abuse.

So far i've been told I drive a Chavrolet and asked when I'm returning my hire car lol.

[Prickle]

Another advantage to having this is that my sister is a named driver on it so that she can drive it with her having accidents and being a relatively inexperienced driver ... it's only a 1.4 and whole 93bhp

Rolls out more bhp then a 1.4 saxo and its only few bhp short of a vtr.


Burnnnnnnnnnn

[Brettles1986]

Rolls out more bhp then a 1.4 saxo and its only few bhp short of a vtr.


Burnnnnnnnnnn

Utter beast, I know ;)

[JoeHindle]

Utter shite, I know ;)

We know Brett, you made a mistake...

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[Aly]

thats a very good point lol
for a cheap motor id get a £500 106 diesel tbh! for which you would have already saved £1500 on the price of the car

yeah this is what I did and I love it!

[Brettles1986]

We know Brett, you made a mistake...

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Oh really! I'll let the picture do the talking ;)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/09/ysanuva3.jpg

yeah this is what I did and I love it!

You're ginger, no-one cares ;)

[JoeHindle]

Oh really! I'll let the picture do the talking ;)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/09/ysanuva3.jpg


Low blow :(
I paid £500 and wrote it off, and its still going strong ;) you paid £1500 more for something not even my granddad would drive

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[Brettles1986]

Low blow :(
I paid £500 and wrote it off, and its still going strong ;) you paid £1500 more for something not even my granddad would drive

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Fair shout, now where did I put my flat cap?

[Giraffe]

Fair shout, now where did I put my flat cap?

Next to your pipe and slippers.

[MuZiZZle]

I'd get some "accident repair center" stickers made for it and pretend it's a courtesy car

[Brettles1986]

I'd get some "accident repair center" stickers made for it and pretend it's a courtesy car

Your contribution took a while, I was expecting you to pipe up within minutes of the thread being made.

[MuZiZZle]

Your contribution took a while, I was expecting you to pipe up within minutes of the thread being made.

Fair play to you, at least you're being sensible.

It's why I have a dullseries BMW

[Brettles1986]

Fair play to you, at least you're being sensible.

It's why I have a dullseries BMW

No white writing, this time it's you that has changed.

[baker556]

Not sure if srs.

[Brettles1986]

Not sure if srs.

100%, would do the custard test but I have none.

[Prickle]

I seen 2 whilst out not long ago. I nearly waved and shouted Bret.

[Brettles1986]

I seen 2 whilst out not long ago. I nearly waved and shouted Bret.

I'm the one driving at 20MPH everywhere and kangaroo'ing across junctions.

It's Brett

[Giraffe]

Still better than a Micra though... amirite?

Also, lower than a standard VTS?

[Bedford126]

Good luck doing any work on it at all mate. I had one in before Christmas and had to employ a midget to get his hands in places that your hand shouldn't go.

[MuZiZZle]

100%, would do the custard test but I have none.

tiny penis test?

[Prickle]

Still better than a Micra though... amirite?

Also, lower than a standard VTS?

Heh heh, Dave!

That fishing line caught my eye. ;)

[Brettles1986]

Good luck doing any work on it at all mate. I had one in before Christmas and had to employ a midget to get his hands in places that your hand shouldn't go.

Tbh I don't do alot of mechanical work anyway and I have child like hands anyway (makes masturbation all that more pleasurable)

Anything I should look out for?

tiny penis test?

Can't bend it 5 fold

[Giraffe]

Heh heh, Dave!

That fishing line caught my eye. ;)

Thought you'd bite, that was a lot of bait!

[baker556]

Surely a saxo would have been better and at a grand cheaper, i would have gone for the sax just for the fun factor.

[Brettles1986]

Surely a saxo would have been better and at a grand cheaper, i would have gone for the sax just for the fun factor.

But unreliable and difficult to find a decent example. I pissed away no end of money on mine when I had it.

[Bedford126]

Tbh I don't do alot of mechanical work anyway and I have child like hands anyway (makes masturbation all that more pleasurable)

Why because its like a small child is wanking you off Dude you are sick fucker.....

Yeah the heater matrix will clog up Needs filling with brick acid to unblock it.
The heater matrix feed and return hose will split. That's about it really.

Also what engine and mileage?

[Brettles1986]

Why because its like a small child is wanking you off Dude you are sick fucker.....

Yeah the heater matrix will clog up Needs filling with brick acid to unblock it.
The heater matrix feed and return hose will split. That's about it really.

Also what engine and mileage?

Dude, you're the one thinking that not me I believe you may be the sick fucker.

Cheers though.

[Bedford126]

Dude, you're the one thinking that not me I believe you may be the sick fucker.

Cheers though.

You said you like the small child like hands because its more pleasurable....

What engine is it mate the 3 cylinder 800cc ish engines suffer from head gasket failure at around 60-80k

[Brettles1986]

You said you like the small child like hands because its more pleasurable....

What engine is it mate the 3 cylinder 800cc ish engines suffer from head gasket failure at around 60-80k

I was referring to them being soft and not abused of course.

It's the sport so it's a 1.4 16v, had cambelt and water pump done in November which was another of the factors surrounding why I bought it.

[Bedford126]

I was referring to them being soft and not abused of course.

I want proof of them been soft and small and add to the pleasure or not true.

Sounds a pretty good deal, Slam it on its arse imo. Never seen it done so will look real different.

[Prickle]

You said you like the small child like hands because its more pleasurable....


I was referring to them being soft and not abused of course.



:zainy:

[Brettles1986]

Only just saw these posts

Oh jesus, your actually modifying it? Do you really want to attract attention to it..

I feel bad for you mate, pm me your address and i'll buy these for you.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50-Brown-Kraft-Paper-Large-Food-Takeaway-Carrier-Bags-11-50-x-10-x-5-50-/320789545692?pt=UK_Packaging_Materials&hash=item4ab08c02dc

I feel no shame in driving it, I'm getting old and not shying away from the fact. I find bags for life from ASDA (which I have plent of) more effective.

i'd save for a decent car to mod tbh
dont waste any more money on it, it was already an expensive car to start with :D

I'm not looking to go mad with it, subtle mods like a tad more lowering and then very minor details, refer to my original post.

[Brettles1986]

I want proof of them been soft and small and add to the pleasure or not true.

Sounds a pretty good deal, Slam it on its arse imo. Never seen it done so will look real different.

Someone who is open minded about it, there's a first for everything.

Seriously though I genuinely like the look of the car and would choose this (evidently) over any flat arch Saxo.

[Bedford126]

Someone who is open minded about it, there's a first for everything.

Seriously though I genuinely like the look of the car and would choose this (evidently) over any flat arch Saxo.

Tbh I think that the small cars such as the k-cars in japan (what these are based on ) are the way forward. Can look epic if done right.

[Giraffe]

Tbh I think that the small cars such as the k-cars in japan (what these are based on ) are the way forward. Can look epic if done right.

You realise this is a Kalos and not a Matiz? The Kalos isn't that small from what I've seen (car size, not room to work)

[Brettles1986]

You realise this is a Kalos and not a Matiz? The Kalos isn't that small from what I've seen (car size, not room to work)

Inside it's like a tardis and is surprisingly roomy

[Bedford126]

You realise this is a Kalos and not a Matiz? The Kalos isn't that small from what I've seen (car size, not room to work)

Yeah I realise mate they still came with the 800cc engine and shocking working room. If it was a Matiz I wouldn't give it the time of day.

[Giraffe]

Yeah I realise mate they still came with the 800cc engine and shocking working room. If it was a Matiz I wouldn't give it the time of day.

Oh god, did they really come with the 800cc engine? Haha.

The Matiz is cool enough... Our Dad bought one for some reason, used to potter to the shops and back in it. I had the misfortune of having to drive it to college when my car broke down.

Still remember slip streaming one of those big industrial drain cleaner lorries on an approach to a dual carriage way... As soon as the roads split, I went for it, 40mph, foot flat to the floor then BOOM, side winds. Safe to say I had to pull back in behind said lorry. Felt like killing myself.

[LSOfreak]

well you must be doing something right to manage 4 pages in one day for a progress thread lol

[Brettles1986]

well you must be doing something right to manage 4 pages in one day for a progress thread lol

Or wrong :detective:

[blackie_2k5]

i cant get past it either.. why not buy a £400 car and pay £1600 off your loan..thus paying it off probs well over a year sooner?

[vts-dave]

Well good luck modifying it in anyway as parts aren't easiest to come by. My work used to be a Chevrolet dealer and I've worked and still work on these I hate them they are shockingly bad on fuel.

So plasticky inside its horrible I don't know why you bought it tbh plenty other cheaper reliable cars out there.

Depreciation is unreal on these aswell expect to get nowhere near your money back on it aswell.

Have you hit the redline in any gear yet? Be prepared if you do.

Each to there own though good luck with it. As for wheels it has same stud pattern as vauxhall just different offsets

[Bedford126]

My work used to be a Chevrolet dealer and I've worked and still work on these.


You unlucky bloke. I really feel for you.

[vts-dave]

I said used to be haha only Landrover dealer now and I'm Landrover tech so I only work on these things once a month if that

[rick_VTR]

should have got a proton tbh

get a 05 plate gen 2 for that kind of money

protons have got to be the worst cars for depreciation. but excellent solid motors!

[Brettles1986]

Well good luck modifying it in anyway as parts aren't easiest to come by. My work used to be a Chevrolet dealer and I've worked and still work on these I hate them they are shockingly bad on fuel.

So plasticky inside its horrible I don't know why you bought it tbh plenty other cheaper reliable cars out there.

Depreciation is unreal on these aswell expect to get nowhere near your money back on it aswell.

Have you hit the redline in any gear yet? Be prepared if you do.

Each to there own though good luck with it. As for wheels it has same stud pattern as vauxhall just different offsets

If I'm honest I don't think it needs much other than lowering a tad more than it already is, as stated I dont plan on doing anything remotely major to it.

I agree with the dash and as for redlining it, I'm too old for that shit now, it's a commuter not a racer and I bought it with my eyes wide open to that fact.

[Jizanthapus]

I just wrote out 2 paragraphs of pure hate, but I deleted it as I thought I was having a terrible nightmare.

[Aly]

Oh really! I'll let the picture do the talking ;)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/09/ysanuva3.jpg



You're ginger, no-one cares ;)

shut up you welsh prick, you bought a shit car and you expected people to say yeah its nice, enjoy modifying your daewoo you knob head

[JoeHindle]

shut up you welsh prick, you bought a shit car and you expected people to say yeah its nice, enjoy modifying your daewoo you knob head

Not sure, but I think I sense some bad vibes in this thread..

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[Aly]

Not sure, but I think I sense some bad vibes in this thread..

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you're a clever lad joe :homme:

[JoeHindle]

you're a clever lad joe :homme:

My mummy says I'm speshul :homme: :panic:
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[Aly]

My mummy says I'm speshul :homme: :panic:
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:fcuk:

Sent from my pc.

[JoeHindle]

:fcuk:

Sent from my pc.

Hurhur, he posted about my sig on my wall, so customised it just for him..

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[Aly]

Hurhur, he posted about my sig on my wall, so customised it just for him..

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lol where is he not seen him around for a while

[JoeHindle]

lol where is he not seen him around for a while

He blew up the Alfa and died. Then a dragon came and shit on his mangled carcass, then he got run over by hardcoreblowjob who laughed because he didn't have B8s

Cool story. Etc...
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/10/buja3uza.jpg

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[Brettles1986]

shut up you welsh prick, you bought a shit car and you expected people to say yeah its nice, enjoy modifying your daewoo you knob head

You're ginger! Need I say more?

Already said that I don't want to do much to it, if you actually had a brain cell under that warm glow on your head you would perhaps of read what I said.

As for expecting people to say its nice it's you that is talking shit, once again. I don't anticipate many people liking it but thought now is the time to get the banter out of the way.

[Aly]

He blew up the Alfa and died. Then a dragon came and shit on his mangled carcass, then he got run over by hardcoreblowjob who laughed because he didn't have B8s

Cool story. Etc...
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/10/buja3uza.jpg

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hahaha ;)

You're ginger! Need I say more?

Already said that I don't want to do much to it, if you actually had a brain cell under that warm glow on your head you would perhaps of read what I said.

As for expecting people to say its nice it's you that is talking shit, once again. I don't anticipate many people liking it but thought now is the time to get the banter out of the way.

well you've already said that so find something else? your profile says you're 26 but i find that hard to believe
dont expect serious replies when you go around the forum trying to wind people up, i.e me

[rey]

shut up you welsh prick, you bought a shit car and you expected people to say yeah its nice, enjoy modifying your daewoo you knob head

You bite so hard, every time.

[Aly]

You bite so hard, every time.

i dont im just feeling angry today, must be my time of the month

[rey]

I dunno dude, it might just be I'm stalking your posts or something, you seem very uptight.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/966485248/hF70E1C95/

[Brettles1986]

i dont im just feeling angry today, must be my time of the month

Or you could just feel left out because of the monstrosity that resides on your head, not being treated as an equal must get to you at times

[Chr15]

better than a shitty silver mk4 golf i guess

[JacobLongman993]

Its a cheep run about that cost £750 more than my 135bhp vts...hmmmm

[Giraffe]

Its a cheep run about that cost £750 more than my 135bhp vts...hmmmm

That would be a relevant post, if he hadn't already had a VTS and was buying it for power. He's not though, so post is irrelevant. Not to mention Aly is experiencing ginger rage at the realisation he's a prick with nothing intelligent, funny or decent to say...

[Brettles1986]

If I wanted a 135bhp VTS then I would have bought one, evidently I didn't therefore I bought something (A) More economical (B) More reliable

On a side note, who added the tag? :detective:

[Prickle]

What can you buy these? google images dont really bring any modified ones up??

http://www.aveoforum.com/forum/attachments/f85/5276-aveos-swift-wave-kalos-barina-wheels~-pics-only~-aveo5-jpg

Chevrolet Kalos Japán tuning Kipufogó - YouTube

[Brettles1986]

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/Brettles1986/Beast_zps8b5792e3.jpg

A shite photoshop ;)

[LSOfreak]

that looks horrendous lol ^

[Prickle]

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w512/Brettles1986/Beast_zps8b5792e3.jpg

A shite photoshop ;)

tis a shite one indeed. Try again. or give me a cope and ill do it.

that looks horrendous lol ^

Which one?

[Brettles1986]

I did it on GIMP as I don't currently have photoshop and I didnt have a clue what I was doing

[LSOfreak]

tis a shite one indeed. Try again. or give me a cope and ill do it.



Which one?

the silver one, might just be the terrible photoshop attempt lol or wheels which dont suit the car

im trying to picture it in my head really low on some cambered dished wheels... might work :S not without alot of money thrown at it though

[Prickle]

the silver one, might just be the terrible photoshop attempt lol or wheels which dont suit the car

im trying to picture it in my head really low on some cambered dished wheels... might work :S not without alot of money thrown at it though

I dont think either work.

Leave it as a grafters car, Bret.

[Brettles1986]

TBH I think it will be staying as it is, keep putting the money I save on fuel, insurance, tax etc to the side and after 3 years get myself something better.

[Chr15]

You won't keep this 3 years lol

[Gandi699]

all the negatives about quality, image, reliability aside but sorry nearly £2000 for a 6 year old pacific rim car?

[Brettles1986]

You won't keep this 3 years lol

Unless it dies or I come into money then I beg to differ

all the negatives about quality, image, reliability aside but sorry nearly £2000 for a 6 year old pacific rim car?

You what?

[Gandi699]

seems steep to me

[Brettles1986]

59k on the clock and a brilliant service history including cambelt and water pump change 2 months ago, still steep?

[josh11490]

Should've kept the vts lol

[Brettles1986]

Should've kept the vts lol

I'm not 18 anymore ;) within reason I don't care what I drive

[josh11490]

I'm not 18 anymore ;) within reason I don't care what I drive

You wish you were still 18 though ;).

Off topic and I cba to go on Facebook cos my signal in work is shit and I can't use the pc, do you think it would be worth organising a saxo/106/clio meet around Cwmbran/aberdare way?

[Prickle]

I'm not 18 anymore ;)

lol, im rolling 23 soon. :panic:

age makes no diff.

[Brettles1986]

lol, im rolling 23 soon. :panic:

age makes no diff.

I beg to differ when adding other responsibilities, I want a house I actually own at some point before I hit 30 or at least a tidy sum in the bank.

My daughter is not going to be any cheaper as she grows older therefore a car that is cheap to run is becoming more and more essential.

[Gandi699]

why not go the bangernomics route then?

[Brettles1986]

You wish you were still 18 though ;).

Off topic and I cba to go on Facebook cos my signal in work is shit and I can't use the pc, do you think it would be worth organising a saxo/106/clio meet around Cwmbran/aberdare way?

Cwmbran and Aberdare are like 45 miles apart mate.

I won't be attending any unless I get myself a cheap project tbh, not many people turn up anyway so you are best off joining someone over the bridge.

[Brettles1986]

why not go the bangernomics route then?

False economy, I buy a cheap saxo for say £1000, not going to find that low a mileage one for starters which inevitably will need more than just maintenance work done to it over the period of 3 years.

Unless of course I buy something like a 306HDI which again are rare as shit to find a decent one (well that is within a reasonable travelling distance from where I live)

[Jizanthapus]

59k on the clock and a brilliant service history including cambelt and water pump change 2 months ago, still steep?

Yes, very steep. Considering that in a year or 2 it will be worth about £50.

You wanted a reliable car so you bought a Chevrolet! :fcuk:

I want something roomy, reliable and practical.....Hmmmm...Yes I will buy a City Rover.

[Gandi699]

False economy, I buy a cheap saxo for say £1000, not going to find that low a mileage one for starters which inevitably will need more than just maintenance work done to it over the period of 3 years.

Unless of course I buy something like a 306HDI which again are rare as shit to find a decent one (well that is within a reasonable travelling distance from where I live)

But with bangernomics you just chuck it when something major breaks?

[Prickle]

False economy, I buy a cheap saxo for say £1000, not going to find that low a mileage one for starters which inevitably will need more than just maintenance work done to it over the period of 3 years.

Unless of course I buy something like a 306HDI which again are rare as shit to find a decent one (well that is within a reasonable travelling distance from where I live)

Not really. my cheap Saxo has been reliable for 13 months.

been low milages on here for less then 1k Bret. Black one on here with 30k iirc. you're just poor at searching ;)

[Giraffe]

I'd have bought a decent passat for around the 1k mark and just left it at that.

My old one needed 1 shock in all it's life with me, which I can't remember the cost, but it wasn't a lot. I got it on 179k I think, gave it to my brother on 200k and it was running strong, right up until someone rear ended it, upon which it suffered next to no damage, but was written off due to it's age etc. He got £550 for it off the insurance, as well as the £250 off the person he sold it to when it was Cat C.

Cost me £700, and I got 50+ mpg out of it without fail. It was in a state like, bit of a shed in looks, but reliable. Only the boot lock worked, so had to open/lock from there, the boot was fiddly, but it was solid. Hell, I even knocked part of a low wall down reversing, no damage to the car!

Each to their own though, as I've said.

Not really. my cheap Saxo has been reliable for 13 months.

been low milages on here for less then 1k Bret. Black one on here with 30k iirc. you're just poor at searching ;)

Except for anything other than 0 - 60 and maybe the "handling" for when you feel like driving like a tit, it's a shit car, no doubt. They drive shit, they're small, they're noisy, badly built, badly equipped and definitely not a car I'd be putting a child in. Not to mention that low mileage means pretty much fuck all, even more so when you're talking about Saxos...

[Aly]

False economy, I buy a cheap saxo for say £1000, not going to find that low a mileage one for starters which inevitably will need more than just maintenance work done to it over the period of 3 years.

Unless of course I buy something like a 306HDI which again are rare as shit to find a decent one (well that is within a reasonable travelling distance from where I live)

Yeah but why does the mileage matter anyway?
I nearly bought a mint Wicked red VTS off here, was 96k but if anything needs replacing it's cheap to fix.

On my 1.0 I replaced both bottom arms that were £80 changed the gearbox that cost me £40 did brakes and other stuff.

Most people who stick with french cars as cheap run abouts is usually because they're handy with the spanner and know the parts are cheap, my 106 diesel only cost me £200, I've replaced a few things and parts are cheap and easy to replace, the only thing you got to make sure is to buy a rust free one because then you're really pissing into the wind.

I'd rather buy a higher mileage Saxo/106 than a reasonable mileage korean thing because the issues are unknown and parts could be expensive.

Also I see that my 106 over time pays for itself so anything I replace doesn't end up costing me anything.

[Prickle]

Except for anything other than 0 - 60 and maybe the "handling" for when you feel like driving like a tit, it's a shit car, no doubt. They drive shit, they're small, they're noisy, badly built, badly equipped and definitely not a car I'd be putting a child in. Not to mention that low mileage means pretty much fuck all, even more so when you're talking about Saxos...

I know milage means "fuck all" mines on 81k. Just saying in reply to him about milage.

Its not a car i'd put a child in but people do because its all they can afford. I cant imagine that Kalos will be much better then a Saxo in a crash.

[Jizanthapus]

I picked up my Saxo diesel last month for £350, 86k miles, t+t, same owner 12 years. I've done a good 3,000 miles so far and it hasn't missed a beat!
Will do me a full week to work and back on about £10-15 of diesel. That's cheap motoring.

You just got to find the right one, and make sure you check it thoroughly. Not saying you would want a Saxo D for 3 years, or to carry a child in - but as someone else has said you could get a Passat for half what you paid for the Chev, or even an A4 or mk3 Golf tdi. All of which I can imagine are much, much more reliable cars.

[Giraffe]

I know milage means "fuck all" mines on 81k. Just saying in reply to him about milage.

Its not a car i'd put a child in but people do because its all they can afford. I cant imagine that Kalos will be much better then a Saxo in a crash.

I'd probably be inclined to agree with this point.

Like I say though, if it had been me in his situation, I'd have taken Gandi's route of bangernomics. It's pretty much what I've done since I passed my test, and it's always worked. Worst car I ever bought was a Vectra for £2.4k. Utter shit. Next most expensive car was the Saxo for £1.3k, other than that, most I've spent is £800, and those cars were definitely the best ones I've bought, being the BMW, a Rover 25, Passat and the Volvo.

[LSOfreak]

its just the logic of trying to save money by spending £2k on a car, i can't quite get my head around :S


reminds me of the time one of my friends wanted to save money, so took out a loan to buy a £10k fiesta diesel! it's ok though, becuase its a diesel and he'll save money :homme: lol

[Brettles1986]

I'm bored of justifying my choice of purchasing such a car tbh I have already re-iterated multiple times that it is cheap to run and as far as I can see ... reliable. You are all overlooking the fact that to insure this it has cost me £450 which is likely to be a saving on a furio (in fact a £400 saving on my old vts) or similar due to them being constantly written off.

The bangeromics theory is fine until you look at doing it potentially over 3 years, even if you go through just 2 cars in that time costing £800 each then straight away that is £1600 and I paid £1900 for a car that could potentially last longer.

As for them not being any better safety wise than a saxo, this has airbags on both drivers and passenger side aswell as in the seats and has a higher NCAP rating than a Saxo.

[mattknight1984]

Horrendous - what have you done? Literally hundreds of better choices for 2k. Almost guarantee you won't still have that in a years time.

Hateful little car.

[Jizanthapus]

Insurance on my diesel is £450! And £800 is a bit much for a bangernomics car. Say £500, so if you went through 2 it would cost you a grand = £950 saving!

:)

Plus lol at autocorrect on the word bangernomics

[Brettles1986]

Horrendous - what have you done? Literally hundreds of better choices for 2k. Almost guarantee you won't still have that in a years time.

Hateful little car.

You will be surprised how little there is for that budget, I was looking for weeks and it was a Corsa C or a bloody Clio and I didn't want either.

Hateful little car, what a ridiculous thing to say, how can a car be hateful you fool.

[mattknight1984]

A car that you hate every time you see it, and drive it. A car that destroys a bit of your soul every time you use it. That's how!

[Brettles1986]

A car that you hate every time you see it, and drive it. A car that destroys a bit of your soul every time you use it. That's how!

So it's you that is hateful then, you have hateful thoughts towards that car, you need to think before you type.

It's each to their own, I actually quite like the way it looks and would personally choose one over a 1.1 Saxo or a 1.5d

[mattknight1984]

Yes I do hate them. I've never come across anyone that doesn't, other than you. Comparing it to a flatarch saxo is hardly a positive thing - they are equally as bad but mainly due to their age, 90s design cheap French shite.

Agree to disagree on this one. Your previous golf gti was pretty tidy that's all, amazed that you went from that to this.

[Brettles1986]

Some crazy changes going on here.

1) It's been washed
2) Original car mats ordered

I know what you're thinking "this guy is going all out".

[Bedford126]

I feel all faint mate those are some truly 1 off mods.

[Ross]

Sponge or mitt? Don't hold us in suspense.

[Brettles1986]

Sponge or mitt? Don't hold us in suspense.

Brillo pad

I may even give you a reason to put your cock in your hand and take a pic soon (of the car not me)

[Brettles1986]

Would love these in anthracite

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Axe-EX8-Alloy-Wheels-Euro-Concave-Rims-4x100-4x108-4x114-5x100-5x114-15x8-ET30-/00/s/OTE2WDE2MDA=/$(KGrHqZHJFUFDyn+ojm5BQ-sd9(Ts!~~60_12.JPG

[Brettles1986]

its a daewoo with a american muscle badge

Congratulations, post count doesn't increase here, find somewhere else to spam.

[SnakeVTR]

:homme:Congratulations, post count doesn't increase here, find somewhere else to spam.

You may aswell allow spam tbh.....you already have 7 pages anyway. Regarding the car, atleast you will get a decent fuel economy :afro:

[Brettles1986]

I wouldn't say it's all spam tbh, a lot of established members with reasonable arguements

[SnakeVTR]

I suppose so, looking at the car i actually think youd get away with lowering and some nice alloys. I dont think it will look as bad as people are imagining :fcuk:

[Brettles1986]

Cheers mate, Yeah I think it has potential, I would love to do it but think I would prefer the money in my account

[SnakeVTR]

Yeah i get what your saying, any car can easily become a money pit. It seems worth it at the time but when it come's to selling you never get it back :homme:

[josh11490]

Deck it on those alloys and I think it would pull it off tbh.

[Brettles1986]

Wheels aren't the problem tbh, lowering is though

[josh11490]

Just cut the springs like the cool kids, or be even cooler and take the springs out?

[Brettles1986]

Just cut the springs like the cool kids, or be even cooler and take the springs out?

or heat them to extreme measures, compress them then rapidly cool them ;)

[Bedford126]

or heat them to extreme measures, compress them then rapidly cool them ;)

Get me your chassis number mate and ill have a word with the lad who gets my springs for me they wont be a name but i have fitted hundreds of sets and never had a problem with them.

[josh11490]

or heat them to extreme measures, compress them then rapidly cool them ;)

Make your car cool and deck it on nice alloys!
What does it go like compared to your vts?

[Brettles1986]

Make your car cool and deck it on nice alloys!
What does it go like compared to your vts?

Compared to a VTS it is nothing, slow as fuck until hits about 3.5K revs, I don't bother going near that often though.

[josh11490]

Compared to a VTS it is nothing, slow as fuck until hits about 3.5K revs, I don't bother going near that often though.

Yeah :/ should get a vts/gti as a weekend toy, I was looking at selling up for a gti, but can't insure one :/.

[Brettles1986]

Horrendous - what have you done? Literally hundreds of better choices for 2k. Almost guarantee you won't still have that in a years time.

Hateful little car.

6 Months and enjoying it without a single problem, which is more than I can say for any of my old French tins.

MOT end of the month and it's probably the only one I have ever felt confident about.

Bumparoo also

[Brettles1986]

Oh and a pic of the actual car on my drive.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5280/96480910151975894929616.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/96480910151975894929616.jpg/)

[mattknight1984]

My eyes are burning! But if it makes practical sense for you then fair enough.

[Prickle]

It needs some different alloys, a little lower (my car works lwigmore) tidy exhaust out the back. i'd go for a japcan personally ;)

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/673754157/alloy_wheels_of_ENKEI.jpg_220x220.jpg

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/374041169/RG-2F-100-Good-Quality-Aluminum-font-b-alloy-b-font-font-b-wheel-b-font.jpg_250x250.jpg

ect something "Jap"

[blackie_2k5]

Light smoke in the windows, little lows and some nice rims (option 2 from Jonjee) I think would set it right off tbh

[Sophia_Bush]

a big fat snail

[KieranHopkins]

With the right mods, you could silence a few people here.

[Brettles1986]

With the right mods, you could silence a few people here.

There's no silencing some of them!

Mods are a no go ATM but maybe later on in the year. Lowering is a ball ache though as they do 40mm springs the lowest.

[KieranHopkins]

*cough* angle grinder *cough*

[Prickle]

*cough No *cough

He carries his daughter around in it and its dangerous.

[KieranHopkins]

Fair point..

[Brettles1986]

MOT'd last Friday with no advisories.

Hopefully it's a sign of good things to come.

Been considering mods but can't help thinking that I would be opening a can of worms that I could do without. Cars don't like to be modified in my experience.

[GolfJay]

Man up. 40mm lowering springs cost what, £60? While it won't look "low", it will look a lot better.

Replica wheels can be picked up for a couple of hundred quid these days.

Modifying doesn't have to be expensive...

[GolfJay]

OK, maybe it does with a Kalos.

AP do 50mm lowering springs for the front but they come in at over £100. The rears are 30mm though.

There's a couple of kits on here. 40/40 50/30 and 30/30. All about the £120 mark.

[Brettles1986]

OK, maybe it does with a Kalos.

AP do 50mm lowering springs for the front but they come in at over £100. The rears are 30mm though.

There's a couple of kits on here. 40/40 50/30 and 30/30. All about the £120 mark.

I don't understand why they would do fronts lower than the back surely if anything it would be the other way around with the weight of the engine being in the front.

[utothek]

what a waste of time that thread was.

[Brettles1986]

These aren't bad (2nd needs more lows):

http://hvtm.totalcar.hu/car/m/daewoo/307728.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3399/2509/33496254017_large.jpg

[VTRelite]

You know Daewoo are Korean right and not Japanese?

[Brettles1986]

Close enough ;)

Still jap style will suit this I think.

[MuZiZZle]

They all look the same

[Brettles1986]

They all look the same

You have more guts then me, possibly quite literally as well.

[GolfJay]

I quite like the first to be fair

[MuZiZZle]

You have more guts then me, possibly quite literally as well.

Lulzzzzz

[jasonmayall]

I know its a different car, and its older.
and completely irrelevant
But its similar...ish, and looks pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z4OP_KcC-vg

[Prickle]

For a matiz thats decent.

defo has the az-1 front

[Brettles1986]

Please, update your thread to tell us how shit your car is :homme:

My car is shit.

Having said that I have had 9 months of not having to touch it at all and Joe has had 3 Saxo's (ish) in that time.

[JoeHindle]

My car is shit.

Having said that I have had 9 months of not having to touch it at all and Joe has had 3 Saxo's (ish) in that time.

1- Emphasized the point a bit more for you!

And I've had 2.. my 1.1, then I bought the VTR- had it since June :homme:

[Prickle]

Burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Mezza]

This cost you the best part of 2k but if you bought a saxo or 106D it would cost that much in maintenance!
I want me a Hyundai Getz. I feel we can be friends if that happens

[Brettles1986]

10 months with no problems at all so far, how many saxo owners can say that.

[Mezza]

Exactly! I drive my mums Hyundai, May not be a speed machine but it's the most reliable thing ever

[MuZiZZle]

10 months with no problems at all so far, how many saxo owners can say that.

Let alone spell it!

[Brettles1986]

No updates here other than it not having to be fixed in any way since buying it.

I do need a new car though. Mrs has 2 boys and I have 1 girl so it can get a bit tight in the car especially when doing the weekly shop.

[D4MJT]

No updates here other than it not having to be fixed in any way since buying it.

I do need a new car though. Mrs has 2 boys and I have 1 girl so it can get a bit tight in the car especially when doing the weekly shop.

Do you NEED 3 kids?

[Brettles1986]

Do you NEED 3 kids?

That's true.

Will see if I can sell one of them and fund a new car for wanting a new one.

[Brettles1986]

So I'm pulled over on the dual carriageway with my hazards on and the rest of the family in the car as the thermostat has perished and my car is overheating when some utter dickhead smashes my mirror off and fails to stop.

What an utter prick, good job he was not closer as he was tanking it and could have caused a hell of an accident.

Now need to replace both thermostat and bloody mirror now ... FML.

[Gandi699]

Thermostat stuck shut? Just remove the bastard!


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[stevo67]

10 months with no problems at all so far, how many saxo owners can say that.

Very true but isn`t your car newer so better built,that may be a factor?(not getting at you):y:

[Gashman]

Very true but isn`t your car newer so better built,that may be a factor?(not getting at you):y:


I could have lol

[mattknight1984]

Not so reliable after all...

[Prickle]

I went for over a year without issues till the pump and injector 2 went. Its ran fine since a year on. All cars have minor blips tbh.

[blackie_2k5]

sheep has jammed a stone in it to troll you brett xx

[Brettles1986]

sheep has jammed a stone in it to troll you brett xx

LOL

The thermostat housing is made of plastic and it has split in half over time. That is only a few £ to fix tbh. The wanker in the Audi has given me a headache though.

[Brettles1986]

The Kalos will be up for sale soon. Just need to replace the wing mirror and then it will be going. Being taxed at the end of the month and then I am going to be looking at as close to £1500 as possible.

Car is going in favour of most likely an EP3 Type R.

[Prickle]

What colour EP3 in mind Bret?

[Brettles1986]

What colour EP3 in mind Bret?

Ideally white but they are hard to come by, if not white then I would like red, but then I will not be shunning a mint low mileage one because of its colour.

It seems like most are either red, silver or black.

[Prickle]

Ideally white but they are hard to come by, if not white then I would like red, but then I will not be shunning a mint low mileage one because of its colour.

It seems like most are either red, silver or black.

I would go for Either Red or Black. Probs Black as it looks epic when polished up.

I'd dodge Silver as when panels fade, you're chasing it and its never ending as im having that now.

[rey]

I would go for Either Red or Black. Probs Black as it looks epic when polished up.

I'd dodge Silver as when panels fade, you're chasing it and its never ending as im having that now.

Don't go for Milano Red then...

[blackie_2k5]

black brett..they wear their mods far better than any colour bar white

red fades as said, silver suits very few cars...but silver will be a chunk cheaper then any other

[Prickle]

Or red...

[rey]

Also Brett, you won't get white unless it's an import or someone has resprayed it.

You going for pre facelift or facelift?

[Brettles1986]

What's the difference in the two?

[rey]

Depending on how you look at it, either a lot or nothing..

Differences, nicked straight from CTRO:

The facelift model was introduced in 2004. There are roughly 1500 changes, however the main ones are:

Lighter flywheel.
Additional sound deadening.
Different front and rear light clusters.
Different front bumper and grille, and the red H badge is larger.
Red door inserts and red inserts on the seats.

Pre-facelift:

http://static.flickr.com/56/150222412_9030d34a0a_o.jpg

Facelift:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s183/reymatt/Civic%20Pics/DSCF1525.jpg

[Bedford126]

I would go for Either Red or Black. Probs Black as it looks epic when polished up.

I'd dodge Silver as when panels fade, you're chasing it and its never ending as im having that now.

You really do know fuck all about paint. The reason you are having trouble with your paint because you have a French car that used any old shite they had left to paint the car. The difference is if you ring honda up with a chassis number they will give you the exact colour code and shade of the car. Also black and the red fade more on the ctr than the satin silver.

[Brettles1986]

Based on that I'm not really worries wether facelift or not, they all look smart or can be made to do so.

[mattknight1984]

Facelift or nothing - front bumper etc is so much nicer. Still looks good where the pre-facelift looks dated.

[Prickle]

You really do know fuck all about paint. The reason you are having trouble with your paint because you have a French car that used any old shite they had left to paint the car. The difference is if you ring honda up with a chassis number they will give you the exact colour code and shade of the car. Also black and the red fade more on the ctr than the satin silver.

Ok Bedford...

[Brettles1986]

I agree that the facelift looks a bit better but I would not overlook a pre-facelift if it was the right price and well looked after. After all I can just buy a facelift bumper if I feel it it needed.

[rey]

It's not just the lights that are different Brett..

If you're staying pre-face then look for a 30th Anni, but personally, I'd only ever go facelift. Another premier for me, would be spot on.

Lighter flywheel, different steering rack, suspension changes etc..

[Brettles1986]

It's not just the lights that are different Brett..

If you're staying pre-face then look for a 30th Anni, but personally, I'd only ever go facelift. Another premier for me, would be spot on.

Lighter flywheel, different steering rack, suspension changes etc..

I'll keep an eye out then in that case. Need to read up them a little more tbh but it's looking odds on for me to get one very soon.

Not sure I will get a premier for the money I am spending on one tbh.

[rey]

What you looking to spend all in do you think?

Tbf, mileage isn't much of an issue for a K20.. Just make sure there's no rattles from the chain, it's not chewing through oil etc.

Get yourself on CTRO (http://civictype-r.co.uk/forum), not a bad place to start for info.

[Brettles1986]

Im looking at spending £4k max

[rey]

Should get a decent facelift for that then dude!

[Brettles1986]

I'm liking this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/honda/civic-type-r/mint-civic-type-r-ep3-80k/2130810?isexperiment=true

[mattknight1984]

I'm liking this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/honda/civic-type-r/mint-civic-type-r-ep3-80k/2130810?isexperiment=true

It's modded (some of it tacky!) and has no service history. I personally wouldn't be spending 4k on that. Why don't you get a tidy completely standard example?

[Brettles1986]

It's modded (some of it tacky!) and has no service history. I personally wouldn't be spending 4k on that. Why don't you get a tidy completely standard example?

I know it's been modded but by the sounds of the advert it has been done with quality parts.

The lack of service history is a bit of a worry but then if reciepts are there to prove it's been well looked after then surely nothing to worry about.

I have no hang ups about buying a standard car btw.

[Brettles1986]

Are they all chain driven?

I am skeptical about mileage tbh even though I know it doesn't really matter if serviced correctly. Would you buy one on around 110,000?

[D4MJT]

Are they all chain driven?

I am skeptical about mileage tbh even though I know it doesn't really matter if serviced correctly. Would you buy one on around 110,000?

Yeah they're all chain driven dude.

I'd agree, that looks to be priced pretty high for what it is. The engines seem really strong, I wouldn't be concerned about buying one at 110k.

The parts on that seem a bit meh tbh, Spoon replica system, lots of carbon wrap and led's / red bolts / painted bits, EBC brakes are a bit wang, so basically it's got coilovers, a tegiwa intake and camber arms / control arm.

If you had a haggle you could probably get this 54 plate facelift for the same price, 82k, FSH, gash exhaust granted, but it's had OEM brakes replaced of late.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/honda/civic-type-r/honda-civic-mk6--ep3-type-r-2004-54--beautiful-car-low-mileage/2045616?isexperiment=true

[Brettles1986]

Yeah that is a lovely example. I keep forgetting to search for over £4K for haggling adjustments.

[Brettles1986]

Welll its up for sale, pulled direct from Facebook :

Selling my car soon:

Chevrolet Kalos Sport 1.4 16v
Silver
06 plate
72,000 miles
Part Service history
Cambelt and water pump 15k miles ago so plenty of life left.
MOT July 2014
Tax September 2014
Full grey leather
Alloy wheels.
Cup holders.
Air conditioning.
New brake pads fitted 2 weeks ago.
Nice looking economical car.
Good condition (few minor marks
1 Key

£1200, pics to follow.

[Sophia_Bush]

lol oh my