Saxo VTS better than 205 gti 1.9?

[AliVTS]

I always thought they were both evenly matched with acceleration, top speed, handling, braking etc...

Only Difference I noticed was the feel through the steering wheel of the VTS was never like the 205 gti, so if i was to put a non power steering rack on the VTS would this make the difference.

[blackie_2k5]

no

/thread

[wrd]

no one is a 1.6 and the other is a 1.9 so there is gong to be some different in power

[Nik_L]

no one is a 1.6 and the other is a 1.9 so there is gong to be some different in power

But then 1 is an 8v and 1 is a 16v.

Whats the difference between the 2?? About 6 bhp??

[wrd]

But then 1 is an 8v and 1 is a 16v.

Whats the difference between the 2?? About 6 bhp??

very true.

[blackie_2k5]

205 is a fair bit lighter as well

[AliVTS]

But then 1 is an 8v and 1 is a 16v.

Whats the difference between the 2?? About 6 bhp??

I think 205 gti has a fair bit more torque than the VTS though, correct me if i'm wrong

[Mochachino]

The 205 looks different.

[Cam]

I would have a clean 205 1.9 Gti anyday over a Saxo.

[blackie_2k5]

I would have a clean 205 1.9 Gti anyday over a Saxo.

read my mind

[Cam]

read my mind

:hug:

This is were i get my love for french cars,
In the 90's till early 2000's my mum and dad both had Gti's, dad had the 1.9 and mum 1.6.
Few pictures of the 1.9 before it got sold :( It was mint the bloke who he sold it to wrote it off in 2 weeks.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m620/Cameron_Harman/41ef82bf.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m620/Cameron_Harman/d97d6f4e.jpg

[piranhamatt]

Never was a fan of the wheels.. But they look more 'for racing' than saxos

[blackie_2k5]

[QUOTE=Cam;6217656]:hug:

This is were i get my love for french cars,
In the 90's till early 2000's my mum and dad both had Gti's, dad had the 1.9 and mum 1.6.
Few pictures of the 1.9 before it got sold :( It was mint the bloke who he sold it to wrote it off in 2 weeks.

was going to buy one not long back..a mate is putting a 2.0 hdi in one :) going for 200bhp

[GolfJay]

I cannot stand French cars but oh my, 205s <3

[Cam]

I cannot stand French cars but oh my, 205s <3

Better hot hatch then the Golf Gti :p

[Tom5190]

205 gti with a 2.0l version such as xu with 200ish hp is awesome. As blackie said they are a fair bit lighter too.

[GolfJay]

Better hot hatch then the Golf Gti :p

Wash your mouth out with soap!

The Golf is the original hot hatch for a reason :homme:

[Cam]

205 gti with a 2.0l version such as xu with 200ish hp is awesome. As blackie said they are a fair bit lighter too.

What do them yellow and green ones go like? Ha i remember seeing the yellow one up santa pod, number plate EKO? Was eating everything and anything up the strip

[Jazz]

205 GTI anyday. Really like that car :y:

[swampy]

205 gti with a 2.0l version such as xu with 200ish hp is awesome. As blackie said they are a fair bit lighter too.

The 1.9 is an xu engine!!!

But 309gti is where it's really at!!

[Nik_L]

Better hot hatch then the Golf Gti :p

So was the Astra Gte 16v. :y:

[jonathon5]

205 gti was the car that put french hot hatches on the map !

What went wrong after that , who knows ??

205 was an epic car, especially as T16

I love my 1.9 , but the vts was a better overall package

[Cam]

^^ Pics of the 205..?

[blackie_2k5]

205 gti was the car that put french hot hatches on the map !

What went wrong after that , who knows ??

205 was an epic car, especially as T16

I love my 1.9 , but the vts was a better overall package

205 is/was epic car

but it was the r5 turbo that put french cars on the map ;)

[Cam]

205 is/was epic car

but it was the r5 turbo that put french cars on the map ;)

Was never a big fan of R5 turbos, arse end is ugly as sin IMO.

[blackie_2k5]

i love them

but it was them that made the hot hatch "hot"

everyone wanted to beat the r5 as it was pissing on all other brands cars :p

[jonathon5]

205 is/was epic car

but it was the r5 turbo that put french cars on the map ;)

R5 turbo was a legend from the same era, i nearly bought an ex 5 turbo cup race car a few years ago

Unfurtunately the deal went sour and i bought another toy

But the 205 was the original along the the R5 and the visa gti

That was when french hot hatches ruled

[Aly]

I masturbate to this website daily
http://www.justgtis.com

[blackie_2k5]

i WILL own an R5 before too long

have thought about getting rid of the saxo for one

[jonathon5]

i WILL own an R5 before too long

have thought about getting rid of the saxo for one

Do it ! Get a raider if you can

[blackie_2k5]

thats what i want.. but im not sure i could justify the cost of a decent raider for how old/unreliable they can be

theres a good R5 page im on from the book of face if you want a link?

[Prickle]

Good luck finding mint of either.

All i can add.

[Cam]

Good luck finding mint of either.

All i can add.

There was a clean 1.9 on ebay in the summer for like £3.995

[blackie_2k5]

Good luck finding mint of either.

All i can add.

There was a clean 1.9 on ebay in the summer for like £3.995

plenty about if you want to spend

even the r5s..until i was on that group on fb i wouldnt have said there were that many left in the country lol!

[jonathon5]

plenty about if you want to spend

even the r5s..until i was on that group on fb i wouldnt have said there were that many left in the country lol!

No facebook for me, i am not that popular to have any friends

I still have an original raider sales brochure from 1989 along with a gte 16v brochure

I also still wanT the epic R5 , i know someone who has the rear egined one

[Prickle]

Who wants to spend 4k on a old 205? Lol.
Reality of it.

[blackie_2k5]

No facebook for me, i am not that popular to have any friends

I still have an original raider sales brochure from 1989 along with a gte 16v brochure

I also still wanT the epic R5 , i know someone who has the rear egined one

i used to hate it..but use it more then forums these days..its the ease tbh

Who wants to spend 4k on a old 205? Lol.
Reality of it.

more ppl then would spend on a saxo tbh

[Tom5190]

There is ally of mint 205s to be had ironically most of them have way less rust issues than saxos.

[blackie_2k5]

There is ally of mint 205s to be had ironically most of them have way less rust issues than saxos.

older pugs seem to rust less then saxos do newer ones are near enough the same

[Tom5190]

The 1.9 is an xu engine!!!

But 309gti is where it's really at!!

I know i mean as in XU10 or EW varients

[SaxoJamie]

I love my 205! I have the 1.6 GTi which I'm goin to use as a track toy/drag slag. Bought it for £450 off ebay last year but she needs a fair bit of work. These cars where the ones to have and made when Peugeot where at their peak. They knew they were onto something with the old Talbot Samba ( the car that the 205 was developed from) then they did it again with the 106 GTi but the new cars of today just don't have the recipe. What made the 205 so fun and good to drive was its light weight (well under 900kg) total lack of electronic equipment, a revvy and willing engine and the styling. The 106/Saxo are the last in the line of the true "pocket rocket" cars. Your not a true petrolhead until you have owned one of these road going go karts. 205 GTi Rules!

[KamRacing]

I masturbate to this website daily
http://www.justgtis.com

You wouldnt if you had a good look at the cars they sell/sold. Usually tarted up but mechanically shot.

[Jay_T87]

I take it's just me who doesn't like the 205 then? I think they're pig ugly.

[Cam]

I take it's just me who doesn't like the 205 then? I think they're pig ugly.

Burnnnnnnnnnnn

[AliVTS]

so whats quicker, the 205 gti 1.9 or saxo VTS?

[welshpug]

1.9.

vts can use less fuel on a run, equipment wise they are pretty similar, leccy windows, pas, sunroof, half leather/full leather, rare ABS which does jack :lol: very rare aircon.

205 suspension is far better to work on and for upgrades, beams last a lot longer and are cheaper to fix.

[L33h]

Much rather have a 205 gti. has to be the 1.9 ofcourse

[baker556]

There so similar to the 106/saxo.

0-60 is the same at 7.6 seconds on the 1.9.

Not sure why everyone goes off about their weight, furio is 840kg the 205 is 875kg.

They are fun cars very similar to a saxo. Saxo looks better the 205 looks more square like a nova, although i do like it i would never own one.

[welshpug]

furio is 840kg the 205 is 875kg

since when was a Furio the 16v vts?


vts kerb weight is 935 kg min.

[mlawlan69]

since when was a Furio the 16v vts?


vts kerb weight is 935 kg min.

7 days for mine lol. But I know what your saying..

[joehow12]

205 gti in all shape and forms, takes work to get the best out of them but they are much more rewarding to drive than 106s and Saxos.

My old 205.... best car I have ever owned.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/Joehow12/2053-1.jpg

[baker556]

since when was a Furio the 16v vts?


vts kerb weight is 935 kg min.

I never said it was just giving a comparison of weight. Everyone thinks they are literally the lightest car going, just goes to show there are lighter cars.

Yes the vts is 935kg they are still the same speed.

[Tom5190]

205 just has so many more options on what you can do, for not alot of money you can have a 2.0L varient in there and they are alot quicker than a vts then!

[KamRacing]

I never said it was just giving a comparison of weight. Everyone thinks they are literally the lightest car going, just goes to show there are lighter cars.

Yes the vts is 935kg they are still the same speed.

Well you might want to compare like for like
The 205 Rallye was around 790 kg. Still lighter than the Furio. I got our old one down to 750kg with driver!
Of course there are lighter cars out there but its not really relevant to this topic.