cherry red gti turbo project, few more pics

[robster247]

So I got bored of my 1.4 turbo and have decided to go for a bit more power. I had a vts lump sat in my shed and then the ideas went from there really, so got the whole lot stripped and cleaned.

Cleaned all the head and polished up the valves and lapped them back in as there was some pitting on the exhaust valves. I then rubbed down the block and painted as it was very rusty.

I'm currently waiting for my money back off my brother so I can move along with getting pistons and rods so just been doing what I can.

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P.s will my vacuum for my dump valve be okay going into the barbed take off on the tb ?

Ratched out my oil feed, should do the job hopefuly.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/IMG-20130318-00421_zpsd4239be0.jpg
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[ThrushMotorsport]

It should be fine, as it after the throttle body, and its all presurised in there anyways :) if it was before the throttle body - then it would be a straight no, but its fine :)

Looks good, keep going with it.

[e8_pqck]

I'd rub the paint off the gasket faces

[k2thecsaxo]

Looking good really want to do this also mate

[robster247]

I'd rub the paint off the gasket faces

Beat you to it, all that's done stanley blade and wet and dry works a treat.

Don't know whether to take the oil feed from the front of the block or from the head, does it matter ?

[ThrushMotorsport]

Dosent really make much difference, although from the head is slight easier, but may cost a little more, gives you more of a direct route in my own opinion

I.e atspeed adaptor is iirc £20, the oil feed is about £80 from them, but any hosing specialist can make one up for allot cheaper than that, iirc pirtek are a good one to goto - beleive you have to be an account holder though.

So if done that way, oil feed in total could cost you £60 (adaptor + oil line), just remember if your turbo needs a restrictor to get that into what you want made up

[robster247]

Dosent really make much difference, although from the head is slight easier, but may cost a little more, gives you more of a direct route in my own opinion

I.e atspeed adaptor is iirc £20, the oil feed is about £80 from them, but any hosing specialist can make one up for allot cheaper than that, iirc pirtek are a good one to goto - beleive you have to be an account holder though.

So if done that way, oil feed in total could cost you £60 (adaptor + oil line), just remember if your turbo needs a restrictor to get that into what you want made up

Christ, thought it wouldn't be that much for a short length of stainless hose and a couple of fittings, I have made my own boss which screws into the block and a braided hose which I had on my 8v turbo so may just use that.

I'm unsure if the turbo I'm going to be using need a restictor as I'm not going to use my old t28 but instead a rather large holset turbo haha

[ThrushMotorsport]

Yeah, its a fair whack actually, its more of DP parts if im right, so DP prices *sigh* :(

But then again, they say all the small parts is what makes you go over your budget, so more you can make yourself, the better haha

[e8_pqck]

I'd say from the block is better, you want oil to go straight to the turbo not via the cam galleries, its more direct from the front and much better imo.

Good paint choice by the way, looks like a neat and tidy job

[robster247]

Haha yeah the dp stuff is very pricey and not always good as their manifolds warp very badly,

I think I'll use my original oil feed as I don't want to be spending money where its not needed will just be a tad harder to route as is slightly too long. Will get some photos of it now

[robster247]

I'd say from the block is better, you want oil to go straight to the turbo not via the cam galleries, its more direct from the front and much better imo.

Good paint choice by the way, looks like a neat and tidy job

I thought this but wasn't sure, and surely the oil will be cooler if I take it from the block.

And thanks, can't beat massey red :)

[gazza808]

Holset shouldn't need a restrictor,

What you looking at running?

I have a hx35 laying around the garage I want to put on something lol.

[robster247]

Haha will have a look at it as its currently at my dads house.

All I know is it came off a cummings digger engine, but it makes my old t28 look like a baby haha

[mechsman]

Holset shouldn't need a restrictor,

What you looking at running?

I have a hx35 laying around the garage I want to put on something lol.

HX35 can suck it, you want one of these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/goldtj/car/DSC01346.jpg

:-D lol! Holset HX60. Needs a new compressor wheel though, as this one has blade damage :-(.

Nice looking build though OP. What's the power target?

[gazza808]

HX35 can suck it, you want one of these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/goldtj/car/DSC01346.jpg

:-D lol! Holset HX60. Needs a new compressor wheel though, as this one has blade damage :-(.

Nice looking build though OP. What's the power target?

Thing is a hx35 may make a tiny amount of useable power on a tu5j4,

Is that your turbo? Could be Interested as we've maxed out the hx40 on my buddy's supra engine!
That hx60 would be insane!

[mechsman]

Hmmm, fair point, although I'm not sure how much of the rev band you'd have left after you got it spooled. Yup, it's my turbo chap. Might be better to pm me to discuss, rather than clog the OP's thread.

[Rowan]

Nice start! How's it going with the mani?

[robster247]

Nice start! How's it going with the mani?

Hi rowan, I'm having trouble getting the metal made from work as their bending machine is rather large for the angle of the bends I need, they are not 90 degree from a sample they made me.

Will get some photos up in a minute wjen I go down to the man cave

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/IMG-20130319-00422_zpsb8ce6952.jpg
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My flange has just literaly turned up aswell, but as you can see the bends just arnt as tight as I'd like them to be, what do you rekon of them ?

[Rowan]

Something like this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-degree-Stainless-Steel-Mandrel-Bend-38mm-1-5inch-/260841085843?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cbb571b93) should do it.

You should be able to source pre-fab bends locally, manually bending them would leave the bend too wide as in your pic.

[robster247]

Yeah I seen them but £11 a piece is pricey but I may have to just get them, how much did it cost you in metal ? (if you don't mind me asking )

[Rowan]

The bends alone set me back around €100,- (85.80 GBP) which was a special price in combination with a lot of other stainless material.

Any local welder should be able to order these at a fairly low price.

[robster247]

That sounds like what I'm willing to pay, £176 for 16 bends is silly but where I live there is next to no metal merchants or places that will supply these kinds of bends.

Have you got a link to the site you got your metal from ? Maybe easier doing that but in the meantime I shall carry on looking around

[Rowan]

I didn't order it from a website, found a guy who makes stainless exhausts (mainly for american cars) and I order the lot via him.

http://www.freewebs.com/jbranbergen/contact.htm

(Although I question his ability to communicate in English, but if you need help translating or anything else just give me a shout)

[gazza808]

You want stainless butt weld long radius elbows sch40 I would recommend but people do use sch10,

I did find a site of a uk company that was selling them for about 4quid Each but can't find it.

[robster247]

You want stainless butt weld long radius elbows sch40 I would recommend but people do use sch10,

I did find a site of a uk company that was selling them for about 4quid Each but can't find it.

Okay mate, if you find it that would be great as I'm running out of ideas

[gazza808]

searched high and low and found it,
http://www.zx55.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?tc=Y&id=2&cat=Butt-Weld%20Fittings&szin=1.5
I've never ordered off them but will be shortly.

[robster247]

searched high and low and found it,
http://www.zx55.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?tc=Y&id=2&cat=Butt-Weld%20Fittings&szin=1.5
I've never ordered off them but will be shortly.

You are an absolute star, thank you very much :)

[gazza808]

You are an absolute star, thank you very much :)

It's not often I'm useful!
If you order some let me know how you get on.

[robster247]

It's not often I'm useful!
If you order some let me know how you get on.

Haha well you are today.

And yes I shall get some ordered and let you know what they are like when they arrive

[e8_pqck]

If that flange is carbon steel you will need to cut some stress relief into it else it will warp when hot. I used alibre design to design my manifold in order to get it equal length so you can design the best route, its free for 30 days and easy to use. its harder than you think which leads me to question these guys knocking up fancy looking manifolds but unless they are designed properly and using CAD are unlikely to be anywhere near _ but they look nice.

[gazza808]

If that flange is carbon steel you will need to cut some stress relief into it else it will warp when hot. I used alibre design to design my manifold in order to get it equal length so you can design the best route, its free for 30 days and easy to use. its harder than you think which leads me to question these guys knocking up fancy looking manifolds but unless they are designed properly and using CAD are unlikely to be anywhere near _ but they look nice.

I actually find mild steel copes with warping alot better than stainless tbh,

Also getting it equal is very fiddly but easy, when my buddy made his he used the same amount of bends and straight for each runner, how can it not be equal then?
And tbh I haven't seen a boosted tu5 any where near point they need to be exactly equal.

[Ross]

I'm not convinced any car needs them to be equal - practically short of wrc or something where every half horsepower counts.

In NA cars equal length is far more important. In boosted however, equal flow resistance is more important - ie one runner should not have 4 90 degree bends when another only has one.

[robster247]

I'm not a perfectionist by any means but I will try my hardest to get it done right, if not I know I will have made my best effort so that will do.

By the way the turbo I'm using goes off the assembly number of : 3528773 and is a holset h1c

This big enough ?

[robster247]

Brother has just sent me a couple of pics of the turbo, yes it looks like scrap at the moment but that will soon change.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/484248_10200422342155457_94868734_n_zpse85c0b9c.jp g
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/487447_10200422341315436_748989969_n_zps5e23fd20.j pg

And looks like I will be going with a 3” exhaust as don't want reducers everywhere.

[e8_pqck]

I'm not convinced any car needs them to be equal - practically short of wrc or something where every half horsepower counts.

In NA cars equal length is far more important. In boosted however, equal flow resistance is more important - ie one runner should not have 4 90 degree bends when another only has one.

It's actually the other way - the turbo relies on pulses to spool up so an equal length on a turbo car is just as important - more important than the number of bends. I wondered that myself and everything i read up on pointed me towards equal length as the most important factor along with primary diameter. Any difference in gas speed vs number of bends is negligible.

Scoobys are a prime example - they have unequal length for the sound but an equal length makes a considerable difference to the power output if all you change is the manifold. Lots of scooby owners are prepared to acrifice a few horses though for that scooby sound - but it DOES make a difference.

[blackie_2k5]

For the steel, your best bet is to buy a couple of stainless U bends and cut out what you need from them, works out MUCH cheaper and can cut out the size of section you need exactly, better fitting and less wastage

As for mani, both right, but you don't need a fancy ex mani for a turbo car, pretty basic manifolds can be used to get more power then most could ever use

Take the vaux lad for example, stick with the cast mani/turbo in most cases as can get more power then they'll need on the oe cast item

If wanting big power, or to help with a certain mod/cams or turbo or something, then tuning the mani to a certain spec helps, but in majority of cases you'd not need to

[e8_pqck]

Thing is though, (and the same reason I want equal length) is he is using a bigger turbo so he needs to maximize spool time. Equal lengths just like an na mani will create a scavenging effect from the other primaries and improve the gas speed through the turbo. unequal creates turbulence and relies on pressure to force the gas through the turbo, so for quicker spool, go equal length. Every bit helps.

[gazza808]

For the steel, your best bet is to buy a couple of stainless U bends and cut out what you need from them, works out MUCH cheaper and can cut out the size of section you need exactly, better fitting and less wastage

Only problem with using the 'u bends' is usually they are thin wall, you want as thick as possible really, with out going insane obviously.

[robster247]

Pipercross 80mm powercone £80
Samco extreme 90 bend £35
Samco extreme coupler £8
80 alloy bend £25
Hi grip stainless clips

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/IMG-20130319-00425_zpse33c58b7.jpg

I payed £30 for the lot and its all brand new. Should be fine for the turbo as it has a 3” intake.

[blackie_2k5]

Only problem with using the 'u bends' is usually they are thin wall, you want as thick as possible really, with out going insane obviously.

Defo a good point, can get whatever size you need with a search though

It just works out more cost effective, same with building down pipe and making a full exhaust :)

[blenky-vtr]

That engine looks the ballocks mate

[robster247]

That engine looks the ballocks mate

Thanks, but still looks shit compared to some on here :n:

[Ross]

It's actually the other way - the turbo relies on pulses to spool up so an equal length on a turbo car is just as important - more important than the number of bends. I wondered that myself and everything i read up on pointed me towards equal length as the most important factor along with primary diameter. Any difference in gas speed vs number of bends is negligible.

That's not what I read here. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Maximum-Boost-Turbocharger-Engineering-Performance/dp/0837601606) I've several books from Corky and his (and others I've read) interpretation is that the bends have a bigger impact on performance.

[robster247]

New intercooler purchased, 600x300x100 in size brand new for £45 delivered.

Also I think I need to reveal what this engine is going in, but that can wait till this weekend :p

[e8_pqck]

That's not what I read here. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Maximum-Boost-Turbocharger-Engineering-Performance/dp/0837601606) I've several books from Corky and his (and others I've read) interpretation is that the bends have a bigger impact on performance.

I wouldn't be introducing bends in a manifold to make it equal length, its more about choosing your routes. There's always going to be a trade off but I would bet that book talks about the people adding loads of bends just to make it equal.

Another important consideration and probably the most, is collector design, particularly at the choke point, short sharp converging primaries isn't as good as a steady taper. But as with all things, you have to work within your constraints. I made 318 with a bog standard log manifold so its not the be all and end all at street level. Will be good to see what you come up with.

[dannygti]

I know 2litre engines produce over 1000whp with very unequal runners.. Also spools gt40's up in the time it takes a TU to spool a gt30.
It's nice to get them equal but there are many other things that will have a bigger impact on turbo performance.

[robster247]

Just to let you guys know I am not aiming for stupidly high power from my engine, I'd be over the moon if I can make 250-300bhp.

To be honest with you I barley have a clue what the fxck I'm doing and how I'm going to do it but I'm only 19 and don't have much experience in turbo charging n/a cars as I'm a welder not mechanic.

Regarding the manifold as long as it does its job and doesn't look like its just been thrown together I will be happy, at the end of the day I can only try my hardest

[blackie_2k5]

If you're not too fussed, use a c2 VTR or 307 1.6 16v manifold and make a down pipe and adaptor for it, can run an OE heat shield to help with bay temps and keep things looking tidy

Get them on eBay for about £40, will easy see 300bhp within the right turbo

[Ross]

I wouldn't be introducing bends in a manifold to make it equal length, its more about choosing your routes. There's always going to be a trade off but I would bet that book talks about the people adding loads of bends just to make it equal.

Another important consideration and probably the most, is collector design, particularly at the choke point, short sharp converging primaries isn't as good as a steady taper. But as with all things, you have to work within your constraints. I made 318 with a bog standard log manifold so its not the be all and end all at street level. Will be good to see what you come up with.

Yes - EVERYWHERE you read it's all about the collector, and making it as smooth and long as possible. Same with wastegate takeoff - very important :) The more I've read, the less I like the DP manifold I've got lol - but as you've said, it's also about packaging constraints!

[Wee_monkey1987]

looking good mate be interesting to see what it can do! forged internals?

[robster247]

looking good mate be interesting to see what it can do! forged internals?

Thanks, and me too should go well IF it spins my new turbo. And yes will be going forged with it.

I however am in doubt if I should run the holset as its huge compared to my old t28
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/IMG-20130322-00007_zps7b4ae0e2.jpg
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/IMG-20130322-00005_zps374f82e6.jpg

Will a 16v spin this ?

[Ross]

In short, no. Basically lol

Yeah - it will, but you'll have nothing below about 7k rpm I'd guess. Enjoy finding a place in the engine bay to fit that too :p

[robster247]

In short, no. Basically lol

Yeah - it will, but you'll have nothing below about 7k rpm I'd guess. Enjoy finding a place in the engine bay to fit that too :p

Decisions decisions, I really want to run it and it will fit in the bay with moving the rad forwards, will be getting rebuilt and its twin scroll aswell so that should improve lag.

Will also be easier to make an exhaust as its only a 3” v band haha

[Rowan]

Have mercy on the little engine!

[robster247]

Have mercy on the little engine!

Haha what turbo are you running rowan ?

As long as the turbo will make 300bhp that's all it will be seeing... For now

[Ross]

Decisions decisions, I really want to run it and it will fit in the bay with moving the rad forwards, will be getting rebuilt and its twin scroll aswell so that should improve lag.

Will also be easier to make an exhaust as its only a 3” v band haha

My old GT30 had about 1/4" clearance from the rad and my rad was moved forward about 3 inches lol. I'll see if I can find you a photo. Really not convinced it'll fit but fill your boots and try ;)

Edit: Can't find a photo of the clearance but you can see the GT30 is big (Martin has a T3 as well - could ask him for photos albeit it's in an AX?) - dread to think how far forward you'd need the rad with yours lol.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/106%20Turbo/IMG_0565.jpg

[robster247]

My GT30 had about 1/4" clearance from the rad and my rad was moved forward about 3 inches lol. I'll see if I can find you a photo. Really not convinced it'll fit but fill your boots and try ;)

Jesus that sounds big, how big were the housings on your garret ? And I certainly will and if there isn't enought roof then I have the t28 as back up.

Will have a meassure up on saturday when I get the car its all going in

[Rowan]

T2 (with T25 housing)

Looks like a tiny hair dryer compared to the Holset...

Maybe if you add a s/c to get it through the low/mid rpm range it could theoretically work.

But as the 8 year old girls say to the vicar: "It's too BIG!!"

[Ross]

Jesus that sounds big, how big were the housings on your garret ? And I certainly will and if there isn't enought roof then I have the t28 as back up.

Will have a meassure up on saturday when I get the car its all going in

Yeah sorry I couldn't find you a photo. I couldn't get my little finger between the rad and the compressor housing - less than 1/4" for sure. But then, perhaps I didn't go as far forward with the rad as I could have done. But I'm note sure I'd want to go much further lol.

Could be clever and run a rad side by side with an intercooler - therby giving you several inches more space as you'd not have to go as far forward if the intercooler wasn't in front of the rad. If you get me?

So instead of this (stacked in front of each other):
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/106%20Turbo/a91dc202.jpg

Run them next to each other in a custom configuration - one above the other, or side by side etc.

[Rowan]

As for the space issue:

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/e8_pack/july29033.jpg

(e8_pqck 's AX)

[robster247]

T2 (with T25 housing)

Looks like a tiny hair dryer compared to the Holset...

Maybe if you add a s/c to get it through the low/mid rpm range it could theoretically work.

But as the 8 year old girls say to the vicar: "It's too BIG!!"

Haha will be similar to the one next to the holset.

And if it doesn't spin it ill add nitrous to the eqaution and see if that helps.

You never know untill you try but the exhaust impellor is 3” and a 2” inlet with a 52mm inducer

[Rowan]

Haha well I think the T2 to the T28 is like the T28 to the Holset :P

If you really want to get the Holset on, I would seriously look at mounting the turbo where orignally the battery would be.

You can go balls-out with the design of the manifold.
With the longer runners, equal length and design would have more effect than with a DP-style one.
Plus you can fabricate an optimal take-off for the wastegate.

[robster247]

My old GT30 had about 1/4" clearance from the rad and my rad was moved forward about 3 inches lol. I'll see if I can find you a photo. Really not convinced it'll fit but fill your boots and try ;)

Edit: Can't find a photo of the clearance but you can see the GT30 is big (Martin has a T3 as well - could ask him for photos albeit it's in an AX?) - dread to think how far forward you'd need the rad with yours lol.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/106%20Turbo/IMG_0565.jpg

that looks seriously good, did you do all the work yourself ?

im going to spill the engine is for a 106 gti, as for the intercooler and rad sitting against eachother i will have to look at it. will be running a diesel radiator mocal 13 row oil cooler an 600x300x100 fmic

so much to fit in with so little room but i shall try my hardest

[Ross]

"Home build" - all me and two mates. Mostly my mates as I'm a lazy bastard tbh.

That's similar to my first setup. Put the oil cooler behind a fog light in the bumper. Use a small intercooler as you're doing and mount it low in the bumper (remove the grill mesh but keep the slats otherwise you look a wanker).

Something like this:
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/106%20Turbo/9f89790e.jpg

stealth:
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/106%20Turbo/e563912c.jpg

Under bonnet:
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/106%20Turbo/IMG_0049.jpg

[robster247]

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/581146_3499004248159_1501901496_n_zps76ec9e57.jpg

here is the car the engine is going in, 106 gti.

bmc carbon induction kit
sfs hose
4-1 manifold
ported and polished tb
pugsport system
205 wheels just been sprayed with brand new tyres
uprated speakers
spax suspension 40mm with dampeners
brand new shafts
compbrake quickshift

cost : £0.00 :A:

my brother is buying a new car as he cannot be arsed to change the headgasket on this 106, so he said if i lent him some money for a car i could have this, for free.

will get more pics on saturday when it will change hands

[Ross]

looks nice - but please change the white gti badges ;)

[robster247]

thats very impressive ross and yeah i will be trying to hide the fact its got a turbo on but it just depends how much i have to move forwards when the holset goes in.

will have to make a load of new brackets as i doubt the ones off my 8v will fit. and i seriously hate making that kind of stuff.

the joys

edit, i may put 1.1 in its place :)

[ThrushMotorsport]

Lucky.. Getting things for free, always wished I could get things like that lol

[gazza808]

Move your rad to one side, and use a civic alloy rad, this what I've done/doing.

[robster247]

Lucky.. Getting things for free, always wished I could get things like that lol

Haha, also got the holset for free too :homme:

Just a shame I won't get pistons an rods for free haha

[blackie_2k5]

If you flip the turbo round so ex is on gearbox side you can have it close to the engine and end up with loads of room like mine

Plus it stops you worrying about cooking alternators

[robster247]

If you flip the turbo round so ex is on gearbox side you can have it close to the engine and end up with loads of room like mine

Plus it stops you worrying about cooking alternators

Was thinking of this, but I'm going to stuggle with the exhaust as it 3” haha

When. Car I will see where the turbo will sit and have enough room around it first

[Ross]

The exhaust would then sit on the correct side to route under the sump - and there's no problems routing a 3" exhaust in the bay then under the sump :)

Give it some more thought!

[tweeqd]

Pit the turbo above the gearbox and there isloads of room

[blackie_2k5]

It's defo worth some thought, I've got loads of room in mine and rad is in oe position etc aswel

[robster247]

Just having trouble seeing where the holset will go as my engine is only on the stand with no box.

And haven't got the 106 yet as my brother couldn't go pick his new car up as where I'm at there is shit loads of snow so the A66 is closed :(

Will have more updates next saturday when I hopefuly get the pug. But I think the turbo will go where the box is, if not sell it and put the money towards a gt28rs.

Only time will tell

[robster247]

Intercooler landed today, and well I think I won't be able to keep the front end subtle.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/IMG-20130325-00012_zps4a685822.jpg

[mechsman]

T2 (with T25 housing)

Looks like a tiny hair dryer compared to the Holset...

Maybe if you add a s/c to get it through the low/mid rpm range it could theoretically work.

But as the 8 year old girls say to the vicar: "It's too BIG!!"
Twin charged baby! Supercharger or a small turbo being fed by a hoofing great big one! Relocate the battery and stuff the big turbo there and a small one in front of the block.

Lucky.. Getting things for free, always wished I could get things like that lol

Me too! lol

[Ross]

Looks like a gt4 intercooler with 3" inlet/outlet. You'll really struggle to fit that. I tried fitting one and gave up on my first build. Just no room for it in the bumper.

Gt3 intercooler is the right one IMO. Hope my eyes deceive me and its a gt3 :p

[robster247]

Meassures 600x300x100 with 3” in/outlet

Paid £45 for it and it is brand new still in the box, that's the only reason I got it haha

[Ross]

Yeah it's too big IMO dude. Try it but I think you'll really struggle. :(

And those 3" pipes will make your life difficult to route, and cost you spool. :(

[robster247]

Okay thought I'd best update this, got the car on saturday and wastedno time to strip the bay completely as there was a bit of rust and didn't look too impressive.

So my dad came with the sand blaster and 3 bags of sand later it was looking a bit bare, there was some rust under the ecu tray but other than that its a decent shell.

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Now the fun part begins cleaning and painting everything before it goes back in, as always c+c. Welcome

Rob

[k2thecsaxo]

Good progress mate
Looks great will be keeping a close eye on this thread as would really like to do a turbo build also!!

[The_Notorious_C_A_T]

Making some good progress.

Not bad getting the car for free!

[robster247]

Thanks for the comments guys, will update this tonight with some more pics

[robster247]

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Just a small update today, got my brake servo put back on after being rubbed down and sprayed along with the bracket, steering rack has all been stripped down and cleaned and painted.

Slam panel was sand blasted and resprayed and my pedal box also got the same treatment, headlights have been thoroughly cleaned and put back on with stainless steel bolts.

Have some 406 brembos coming this week along with some new springs so will be doing a bit more sandblasting on those and get them painted and put on.

Progress is slow at the moment so I'm afraid you will have to bare with me.

Rob

[blackie_2k5]

Tidy job mate

[robster247]

Okay so was bored today so decided to tackle the intercooler, and well it was actually a pleasant job, I'm getting into the whole car shiz and I'm learning to so its a win win. Hope you like

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[Rowan]

Nice man!

[josh89vtr]

Very nice. Like the black bay too. Looks nice n neat

[robster247]

Nice man!

Cheers rowan, how' is your build coming along ? Keep checking your thread but no updates :panic:

P.s your engine looks sweet, but have you gone forged ?

Rob

[Slyboogie]

Thats one overkill intercooler :L Love it

[k2thecsaxo]

Awesome!!

[robster247]

Any ideas on where my oil cooler can go ?? Was thinking of putting it between the rad and intercooler. Will that work ?

[Rowan]

Cheers rowan, how' is your build coming along ? Keep checking your thread but no updates :panic:

P.s your engine looks sweet, but have you gone forged ?

Rob

Still waiting on Citroen for the last parts to arrive.
Do have a bit of progress but will not post it until I have more ;)

Cheers mate! I've got forged Wiseco pistons on stock rods (but with new bearings).

P.s. regarding your oil cooler, I'll be going for placement where the driverside foglight used to be.

[robster247]

Still waiting on Citroen for the last parts to arrive.
Do have a bit of progress but will not post it until I have more ;)

Cheers mate! I've got forged Wiseco pistons on stock rods (but with new bearings).

P.s. regarding your oil cooler, I'll be going for placement where the driverside foglight used to be.

Haha that's what I like to hear, and I'm thinking of just buying wossner pistons and leaving the rods standard but a bit weary as if one fails that's it shagged.

And I will have to get the bumper back on and have a look,

[Rowan]

Stock internals seem to have proven themselves at fairly high power levels.

I got the forged pistons to lower compression, something about the decomp plate that just doesn't feel right to me.

And for the power level that I'll be at, stock rods will do just fine.

However, with that enormous holset leaf-blower you call a turbo, your power level would be on a different scale...

[robster247]

Little bit more done tonight, and yes it was a pain to make it fit. Tempted to cut out where the number plate goes as I'm losing cold air ?

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Opinions please

[robster247]

Stock internals seem to have proven themselves at fairly high power levels.

I got the forged pistons to lower compression, something about the decomp plate that just doesn't feel right to me.

And for the power level that I'll be at, stock rods will do just fine.

However, with that enormous holset leaf-blower you call a turbo, your power level would be on a different scale...

What power you going for ? And I know what you mean about the decomp plate, fair enough if you were doing a cheap build but you may aswell do it properly with cow comps.

And that made me laugh hah, may aswell be a leaf blower but I bet yours will be faster as I'll still be spooling :homme:

[gazza808]

On the conrod subject,
Fact is you can get unbranded pec rods for 230ish quid,

Good insurance really if your fitting forged pistons. Atleast you won't have to rip it apart when you want more power.

[robster247]

On the conrod subject,
Fact is you can get unbranded pec rods for 230ish quid,

Good insurance really if your fitting forged pistons. Atleast you won't have to rip it apart when you want more power.

Yeah I think I will go with the forged rods aswell as pistons, don't fancy £500 pistons being turned into paper weights if a rod fails.

Cheapest I've found the budget rods is 330 including arp bolts meant to be £110 so yeah really the rods are only 220 ish

[gazza808]

I can put you intouch with some one who will sell you a set for 260quid with arp bolts posted!
They are pec rod just unbranded.

[robster247]

That would be great, , are they standard rod size ?

And cheers

[gazza808]

Yes they are buddy, I'll get his contact info today and pm you later.

[robster247]

Thanks mate, much appreciated

[Rowan]

What power you going for ? And I know what you mean about the decomp plate, fair enough if you were doing a cheap build but you may aswell do it properly with cow comps.

And that made me laugh hah, may aswell be a leaf blower but I bet yours will be faster as I'll still be spooling :homme:


Not really a figure in mind, just trying to get the most out of it with driveabilty and reliabilty as a compromise. Guestimating around 200 ponys.

Haha, point taken, I won't be stopping by lag-central :P

[Ross]

Staying with 3" boost pipes then? Enjoy routing those lol :D


Haha, point taken, I won't be stopping by lag-central :P

Will reduce spool time quite a lot with that intercooler and 3" pipework dude. Srs.

[robster247]

Was thinking about getting a couple of 90 degree reducer bends but I don't think it will do any good for the flow.

[Ross]

I'm not being an arse - I'm telling you from experience. I tried the same intercooler the very first time.
On the plus side, if you now go for a gt2 intercooler with 2.5" pipework it'll look like a piece of cake to fit lol

[robster247]

Will have a go at routing the 3” pipes, but if that fails I think my brother wants to buy it for his landrover. So will resort to a smaller cooler and pipe work.

Will see where I can go with them when the engine gets put in.

[robster247]

stack gauges arrived yesterday so decided to make a plate for them to sit in, and i know its not carbon fibre but it still looks okay.

just need to find a cheap stack boost gauge now

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[robster247]

Okay progress is as slow as ever as I'm full of cold and have a new lass so spending more time texting/seeing her than my project which isn't good haha.

However got my stack gauges wired up except my oil temp asit doesn't work :/ don't know if its my sensor (the blue plugged sensor under the stat housing) butit works when I put my water temp sensor onto the same gauge, any ideas ?

And. Also found some bigger brakes 406 brembos so got to work and stripped them and painted them. Replaced all the bolts with stainless. Also got new disks from a xantia v6 283mm so won't squel

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Oh and I got around to sandblasting my gearbox aswell looks like new but will be painting it to prevent it corroding

[robster247]

Okay been asked as to what disks to run, there is a couple of threads going around providing good information but there is confusion with the size and part number.

The callipers themselves fit direct onto saxo struts but you need bigger disks which are 283mm.

I read in a thread that the part number is SBG2690 but when I went to purchase some disk this code was not legit. It is BG2690.

Hope this helps

[Ross]

GTI-6 discs (same as peugeot 405 diesel discs)

[306T16]

3" IC piping is not needed, just run 2.5" and get 2 sillicone reducers on the IC

[robster247]

Progress is at its slowest but have finally found some forged pistons so they will be coming soon,

Loosing motivation on the car and its making things even harder as I'm currently jobless, and no jobs going in my area :(

[robster247]

Slight update, found some good cable for my battery relocation was for a gator winch and is exactly the right size which was good, re trimmed the sides of the arches in the boot aswell as the old ones were a disgrace.

Gearbox was sandblasted, etch primed and sprayed gloss black, look a bit bland so painted one of the selector arms and I'm not keen haha. Also found a machine polisher so had a crack at that and is now a swirl free cherry red 106

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[k2thecsaxo]

This a standard gearbox mate? Sorry if you've already me mentioned . Good progress buddy

[robster247]

This a standard gearbox mate? Sorry if you've already me mentioned . Good progress buddy

Yes just a standard box for now, want to get it all up and running then save some money up for a new diff

[robster247]

Anyone local to me ? Live in cumbria and need help getting this finished as its taking me ages,

Will supply bears/ refreshments :) haha

[robster247]

Thought I'd update this, not much has been going on with the car really except got the engine down to lancaster engines to get bored and honed and a slight skim for the head just to tidy it up.

Missed out on a turbo manifold on ebay so will be making my own, pics this week when I get the engine back.

Rob

[vtr91]

Anyone local to me ? Live in cumbria and need help getting this finished as its taking me ages,

Will supply bears/ refreshments :) haha

BEARS!!!
is this why no one has offered to help? :zainy:

[robster247]

BEARS!!!
is this why no one has offered to help? :zainy:

*beers haha hate typing on my phone .

[robster247]

Okay so finally got my engine back from getting bored out and a slight skim for the head, wasted no time to get it all cleaned up as they had made a mess to say the least.

Put the rings in to check the gaps and well there wasn't a gap so had to set all the gaps then got the pistons in. Cleaned all of the head out using hydrochloric acid which worked amazingly good, cams back in and sealed aswell.

Baker grp n mounts also arrived so I have now got the engine sat in the car until I get main and big end bearings, head gasket, timing belt and cam seals anda paddle clutch then the engine will be done :)

Pics to follow later on

[robster247]

Project is at a stand still, been ill but trying to motivated, but anyhow this is how the car stands,

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[Rowan]

Looks mint mate! Very clean bay, shouldn't be too long until the first start?

I'm going to start stripping tonight if all goes according to plan.

[robster247]

Looks mint mate! Very clean bay, shouldn't be too long until the first start?

I'm going to start stripping tonight if all goes according to plan.

Afternoon rowan, I'm waiting for mains, big ends and a dipstickk and guide tube from citroen. Then all I will need is a head gasket and a fresh timing belt then the engine is done, just set it in as I didn't want to be tripping over it all the time (small garage).

Was going to order acl race bearings but for the price I opted for genuine parts so hopefully they will cope and also thinking of using a genuine head gasket kit and timing belt, what brand you going for ?

Have also changed my aim for the power aswell as I don't want to be pushing the turbo too much so will be happy with 250 atf, will also be more forgiving on clutch, brakes, shafts, boxes and the engine as I'm by no means a professional engine builder in fact this is the 1st I've done except 2 stroke motorbikes so wouldn't be surprised if it blows up on first start haha

[Rowan]

Hi Rob, I'm using oem mains and big ends / gates belts / SKF tensioners and waterpump / Elring headgasket.

Are you still going with the holset and 3" piping?

Once you have gotten used to 250 atf, you can always go from there ;)

[robster247]

Okay I've heard of gates timing belts and pretty cheap aswell. Nope not running the holset either as it was far too big.

Going for 2.25 boost pipes but my intercooler has 3" in/outlets so will need a couple of reducers haha,

You get much done lastnight ?

[Rowan]

Glad to hear you came to your senses :P Although it would be a very interesting project.

Aren't you concerned with the big intercooler causing a pressure drop?

Nope didn't get much, the weather was awefull and I am bound to the driveway since there is no room to work in the garage :(

Are you going to re-use the headbolts?

[robster247]

Haha just fitting the holset in somewhere would be a fair task. As for the intercooler I'm just going to see how it goes, if I do get a lot of pressure drop I will sell it and buy another smaller one.

And no I think I will get the new bolts in a head gasket kit, was looking at spoox and constella for a head gasket and from £100/ £140 just for the gasket I soon closed the page hah

[Ross]

Try gmc for the gaskets - mls ones - it's where I get mine :)

[robster247]

Try gmc for the gaskets - mls ones - it's where I get mine :)

Never thought about them so thanks for that, what size do you use ross ?

I'm running iasa low comp pistons and have taken a minimum amount off the head just to tidy it up

Any help would be great

[Ross]

I use a 1.5mm one currently as that's what the CR is set up for.

http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/engine/head-bolts-gaskets/1-5mm-head-gasket/prod_554.html

Really can't argue with £38 :)

[robster247]

Okay will have to get one ordered this week, and no I'm not complaining about price on these.

Couldn't justify one at £100 when these will do the same job,

Thanks for the heads up

[robster247]

*edit double post

[robster247]

As the title says, this might be up for sale. Reason being is I'm only 19 and as with every 19 year old I want to go places but have been sinking all my money into this.

The spec:

Iasa forged low comp pistons
Brand new genuine main bearing
Brand new genuine big end bearings
Bored and honed to suit pistons
Head skimmed
Brand new rings
Valves seated
Gt4 intercooler
Mocal 13 row oil cooler
406 brembos like new
Brand new disks
Koni dampers
Brand new spax springs
Braided lines from mc to caliper
Billet gear lever turret
Uprated linkages
Mint gti leather interior
Deep dish steering wheel
Omp boss
Stack gauges: oil temp, water temp, oil pressure
Procomp boost gauge
New drop links
New rear wishbone mounts
New bottom ball joints

Engine is not built up as there is a problem with a conrod which I bought off someone on here and he never told me, the body work is not the best on the car either and the back axel is shot.

Will be good for someone to swap all the parts over to their car, I've just lost motivation and the conrod has topped it off

[Rowan]

What happened with the conrods?

I understand why you're thinking of selling it, still a shame though, you were on the right way for a mint build.

[robster247]

Late reply rowan, as for the conrod I don't have a clue what it was, only one conrod was catching on the crank when it was tourqued down.

Left the engine at my dads and went back yesturday and he has sorted it out for me, don't know what was up with it but turns over freely now, whole car is off to my dads this weekend so I can get cracking

[ThrushMotorsport]

Rob, I want to see this finished, don't give in ;) btw, the takeoff has a -3an fitting if it helps you for your oil feed, will save you faffing about trying to figure it out, should have told you before, great bit of kit though

Been watching this build quietly, looks immense so far though.

[SnakeVTR]

Don't give up mate, when its done and your driving it down the road it will be well worth it :y:

[robster247]

Thanks for the comments guys, I don't know if I couldn't imagine selling up as I don't want to be boring and buy a different car.

Tried to get an insurance quote with turbo ticked on the modifications part and nobody will even give me a price haha. Hoping my insurance company will do it as I've been with them 3 years now, so it may not be a road car at all

[gazza808]

Try ringing round companies, sky, brentacre, Adrian rip off flux etc,

Completely different to doing an online quote once you've done a turbo conversion etc

[robster247]

Decided to move the 106 on the weekend to my dads house so I can get some decent progress done, had time for a quick picture and I know the number plate doesn't look gook haha.

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Oh and my minion (the foreman) makes sure I don't slack

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[Rowan]

This thread is in desperate need of updates :P

[robster247]

This thread is in desperate need of updates :P

Just because you have been rocketing on with yours :homme:

Yes It does though, I have updates just not very interesting ones, will get some pics up on saturday.

Slowly but surely I'm getting there

[robster247]

This hasn't died for those of you wondering, been having a huge clear out in the garage its at so have plenty on room,

Back axel is out and is shagged, both bearings and pins are very worn. Will be getting blasted and painted with new pins and bearings.

Helix clutch and forged rods and some new big end bearings (acl) are on order as the oe bearing I got are shite.

Boost pipes have been plumbed up aswell as the braided lines for the brembos and all underneath cleaned and painted

How it stands

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[Rowan]

Good to hear that you're still going mate!

[saxplee]

good get some more work done on it :)

be good to see it in the flesh next year :P

[hard_corejoeboy]

I thought that was a 206 at first!

[robster247]

I thought that was a 206 at first!

I don't understand how that is possible haha

[robster247]

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[shell-vt]

very nice keep on going

[Rowan]

Good progress mate! Did you do the mani yourself?
What rad are you going for?

[robster247]

Good progress mate! Did you do the mani yourself?
What rad are you going for?

Thanks mate, hows your build going ? Are you mapping it yourself ?

Got the manifold cheap off ebay as im working silly hours so decided this would be the best option, just need to figure out how to put an external wastegate runner on.

As for the rad ive got a brand new standard one but thinking of getting a full alloy one from a honda civic as i will be able to move it to the passenger side instead of all the way accross

[Rowan]

The build itself is done, just waiting to get mapped now.
Did the base-map myself, however it isn't optimal.
I've booked a session at DP-Engineering the 1st of october.
(That is, if he's going to reply to my follow up mails. If not I will go to a different mapper)

Getting the wastegate on that mani shouldn't be too much of a problem.
With a good drill you can get 38 mm hole in and then just fabricate the runner through the 3rd and 4th runner. Loads of room there ;)

The reason why I'm asking is that the mani/turbo is very much to the front.
Worried about room for the rad there.

[robster247]

Thats good news, i expect some videos of it when its all mapped up properly.

Yes the manifold sits pretty far forwards thats why i may get a civic radiator as they are narrow but have a 50mm core so should cool it better than a standard one.

Just waiting on more parts to arrive but should get some other progress done on the weekend with what i have

[Rowan]

How's this coming along mate?

[robster247]

How's this coming along mate?

Hyya rowan, build is slow at the moment .

Been let down on my clutch from kam racing as they are waiting on omp to make some more, so i have decided to sandblast the underneath of the boot and needless to say i have found rust.

So thats the plan to sort this week have some new rear axle bushes on order and have it all blasted and painted.

Oil feed line is also on its way from torques so keeping myself busy.

[hard_corejoeboy]

Sandblast? And theres me planning on doing it by hand!

[robster247]

Haha i know what id say to that, it has came up nice just need some thin sheet and start welding

[Rowan]

Hyya rowan, build is slow at the moment .

Been let down on my clutch from kam racing as they are waiting on omp to make some more, so i have decided to sandblast the underneath of the boot and needless to say i have found rust.

So thats the plan to sort this week have some new rear axle bushes on order and have it all blasted and painted.

Oil feed line is also on its way from torques so keeping myself busy.


That's a shame, the CS clutch I've got is holding up pretty good. No problems on the dyno and nothing wrong, even when I wrecked a box. (yes already:homme:)

Next up for me is the rear, (axle and rust spots) not looking forward to it though. I'll be (mis)using an angle grinder as I don't have a sandblaster.

And as for the oil feed line, be careful with the braided bits sticking out at the ends. The fucker caught my fingers a number of times, dripping blood all over the engine. Did you sort the oil return?

Rowan

[robster247]

I did my old saxo with a grinder last year, and i wish you all my luck as its a pain. Will make it look a lot neater though so will be worth it.

What are you running box wise ? Just standard ?

As for the braided line i will be wearing gloves :) havent got around to the oil return as i have to many unfinished jobs which ive started and moved onto another.

On the upside im biding on a tial msz and some forged rods, treat myself as it was pay day yesturday haha

[Rowan]

I know, think I'll pay my little brother to do it for me :P

I've already wrecked the old box (wasn't all too healthy before the build so i knew it was coming).
I'm now running a younger MA box, which is holding up quite good. (although driven with some mechanical sympathy)

Tial msz? wut? Do you mean a msv? What rods are you going for?

I have to wait 15 more days for payday :(

[robster247]

Just thought I'd let you know I'm still alive and still making progress, bought a few new parts

Ap racing 4 paddle clutch, with spoox release bearing
Alloy alternator pulley and crank pulley
1.5mm hed gasket (gmc)
New head bolts (gmc)
Tial msv 38mm external wastegate
Forged conrods
Brand new streamline caron fuel cap cover
Jp4 cam covers
Reconditioned rear axle

So I have a battered bank, but a few more bits to put on. Will grab a few pics this weekend... Maybe :)

[robster247]

Just been to pick up some carbon kevlar buckets :p yummmyy

[robster247]

thought id get some pics, sorry about the rubbish quality.

tial msv 38mm external wastegate picked up on ebay for a huge sum of £27.50 posted
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/SDC10485_zps185d130a.jpg (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/robster247/media/SDC10485_zps185d130a.jpg.html)
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/SDC10487_zps96378cf8.jpg (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/robster247/media/SDC10487_zps96378cf8.jpg.html)

forged conrods and arp 2000 bolts
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/SDC10495_zps87a9c898.jpg (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/robster247/media/SDC10495_zps87a9c898.jpg.html)

gmc head gasket and bolts ( 1.5mm)
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/SDC10496_zps52dd5fe0.jpg (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/robster247/media/SDC10496_zps52dd5fe0.jpg.html)

ap racing 4 paddle rigid clutch and spoox release bearing, machined flywheel to suit
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/SDC10497_zpsc4fae228.jpg (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/robster247/media/SDC10497_zpsc4fae228.jpg.html)

pro series, carbon kevlar and black gel coated buckets, are the latest purchase
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/SDC10500_zpsca0d24bf.jpg (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/robster247/media/SDC10500_zpsca0d24bf.jpg.html)

and just a quick snap of how it sits, yes its high on the front as the engine is still not in
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb479/robster247/SDC10499_zps0dd77be1.jpg (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/robster247/media/SDC10499_zps0dd77be1.jpg.html)

[Rowan]

How this coming along mate?

[robster247]

How this coming along mate?

To be honest I haven't even touched it for a month, I have lost all motivation with the build, I would sell it but I'd loose a lot of money as it will not be running.

Time will tell I suppose but I've gone off the idea now.

How's yours going Rowan ?

Regards

[Rowan]

How come? Surely with all the new parts you got the finish is in sight.

Mine is still going, ran it for 4000 km's without any serious problems.
Now have to get it MOT'd and I'll start with a little adjustment to the block.
(higher compression)