Football violence

[Davyy]

Huge fight just kicked off in Waterloo Station between Pompey and Millwall apparently, and all pubs around Waterloo have been closed.

I know it is nothing like the 'good old days' but just wondering has anyone got any stories from football matches?

I've seen a couple when about 10 Arsenal fans walked in to a Portsmouth pub after beating Pompey 3-0, chanting about it and it was mad. I was only 13/14 at the time so was quite scary!

Also seen a bit of violence between Pompey v Southampton last year, as an away fan it isn't great with that many people actually wanting to kill you.



Random thread I know but the 6.57 and other football violence history amazes me.

[Davyy]

West Ham fans there now also according to Portsmouth facebook page.

[LSOfreak]

just mindless violence

how can people be that narrowminded to want to fight someone else, just because they're from a certain part of the country and support that team

[Davyy]

It is all part of the matchday fun though I spose. As long as it is only people who are up for it getting involved, and no innocent people etc.. I think it is okay.

The main issue was the disruption it caused to public transport, and the cost of police etc.

[Pieface]

People who get violent over a game of football just need to be shot.

Hypocrite?

[Gabbastard]

When rangers were playing chelsea a few years ago, a small group of chelsea thugs came into a bar in my town to wreck the place and batter folk (its only a small place where i live, but not far from glasgow). Unfortunately they picked the bar full of all the local headbangers and downright fucked up people. The football wanks all got a hiding and a couple had lengthy hospital stays.

[Davyy]

People who get violent over a game of football just need to be shot.

Hypocrite?

A lot of people have this view.. but why?

It is something they are clearly very passionate about.

[Viper]

Why are football fans such needlessly violent cunts?

[Davyy]

Why are football fans such needlessly violent cunts?

Very generalised, and your opinion of course..

[Carl-h]

Bunch of fucking wankers.

[Manu]

These groups often share the IQ of a lettuce in between them. Add a little too much lager to that and the IQ figure goes out of the window. They should be fitted with tags when caught and curfewed home whenever there's a match somewhere.

A lot of these idiots get barred overseas, I've seen the damage they can do as in walk in a bar and tear the place down. A bunch of these idiots turned up one day in one of the local boozers and immediately sent a chair flying into an 8 x 20 ft mirror, what they didn't know: the old bill quarters are 50 yards round the corner. 6 months jail each and then sent back to the UK. As a result there, bartenders won't serve English folk even if they look just a little tipsy.

[Viper]

Very generalised, and your opinion of course..

Not really generalising. I didn't say 'All football fans are violent cunts'.

[Jay_]

Football violence is stupid. I'm passionate about music, just because someone else like a different type doesn't mean I can kick the crap out of them.

What other sport do you see fan violence like this? None. Just stupid.

[Davyy]

Not really generalising. I didn't say 'All football fans are violent cunts'.

But then you didn't say 'some football fans..', so yes it was.

[Chris_O]

A lot of people have this view.. but why?

It is something they are clearly very passionate about.

Your comments surrounding this topic are laughable. A serial killer is probably very passionate about the murders they're committing, does that make it fine as well yes?

[Andy_K]

Why are football fans such needlessly violent cunts?

I'd agree with this. Rugby, for example is a much more inherently violent sport. Yet the fans manage not to want to stab each other to death every weekend.

[Viper]

But then you didn't say 'some football fans..', so yes it was.

It really wasn't generalising. Although it's wrong, you are welcome to your opinion.

[Davyy]

Your comments surrounding this topic are laughable. A serial killer is probably very passionate about the murders they're committing, does that make it fine as well yes?

Obviously there are limits etc.. but if someone kicked your car, which you are probably very passionate about, would you possibly get violent? (Some people have better tolerance etc)

Just seeing it from their view.

[Davyy]

It really wasn't generalising. Although it's wrong, you are welcome to your opinion.

And an opinion can't be wrong.

[Viper]

And an opinion can't be wrong.

Yours is. There is a first for everything.

[Manu]

And an opinion can't be wrong.

Some have opinions on german dictators that you may not agree with. And if you did agree some may have the opinion of you being an opiniated c-unit.

[Davyy]

Yours is. There is a first for everything.

Right...

[Ryan]

It is all part of the matchday fun though I spose. As long as it is only people who are up for it getting involved, and no innocent people etc.. I think it is ok.

You sir are a moron.

That is all.

[SnakeVTR]

Some people go to matches for the love of the game, others go for the trouble/fights afterwards. There was a documentary on the t.v about this sort of thing, it showed how the 'real' football fans were the ones who actually turned up and enjoyed the game and went home.

The others were just yobs who wanted a reason to kick off, the thrill isnt in the game for them, its the aftermath, whereas with real fans the thrill is in the game :drink:

[Davyy]

You sir are a moron.

That is all.

Why...?

[Viper]

Why...?

If you even have to ask that then it further proves his statement.

[SnakeVTR]

But Yolo :homme:

[Carl-h]

Obviously there are limits etc.. but if someone kicked your car, which you are probably very passionate about, would you possibly get violent? (Some people have better tolerance etc)

Just seeing it from their view.

How stupid are you? So if your team looses, you see that as a reason to kick off? But you kick off at the people who support the team that beat you?

If someone kicked me, I'd possibly get violent. If someone kicked my car there's a chance I could get violent. I can't see what relevance this has to someone who supports an opposing football team though?

[Davyy]

Some people go to matches for the love of the game, others go for the trouble/fights afterwards. There was a documentary on the t.v about this sort of thing, it showed how the 'real' football fans were the ones who actually turned up and enjoyed the game and went home.

The others were just yobs who wanted a reason to kick off, the thrill isnt in the game for them, its the aftermath, whereas with real fans the thrill is in the game :drink:

I agree with that completely..

I only put up this thread as I know there are quite a few people on here who were around during the hooligan period and wanted a few stories.

However, it seems like the majority just like to 'nit pick' and are a bunch of bum licks.

[Davyy]

How stupid are you? So if your team looses, you see that as a reason to kick off? But you kick off at the people who support the team that beat you?

If someone kicked me, I'd possibly get violent. If someone kicked my car there's a chance I could get violent. I can't see what relevance this has to someone who supports an opposing football team though?

You aren't just violent to any fan from the other team.. just the oppositions firm who are also 'up for it'.

And it is relevant because unless you've met people similar to this (I've met Cass Pennant so I understand) who are very passionate, you wouldn't understand. So I compared it to your car etc.

[stevo67]

Why are football fans such needlessly violent cunts?

Not all are & its the minority that always spoil it for the true fans.

[Ryan]

Why...?

You think mindless violence is acceptable.

The fact I needed to explain this says it all.

[Viper]

Not all are & its the minority that always spoil it for the true fans.

but it's the fans at football that do it. I have never seen fights break out every time there is a Rubgy or Tennis match.

So many football fans are that thick that they don't know any better.

[Davyy]

but it's the fans at football that do it. I have never seen fights break out every time there is a Rubgy or Tennis match.

So many football fans are that thick that they don't know any better.

That is a fair enough point.. but is most likely because of the size of the audience, alcohol being mixed in, lower/middle class etc, in comparison to Tennis and Rugby fans being seen as more upper class.

But then my point of as long as it is firm v firm and no innocent people are involved still stands imo.

[Ryan]

but it's the fans at football that do it. I have never seen fights break out every time there is a Rubgy or Tennis match.

So many football fans are that thick that they don't know any better.

It here's hardly any trouble at football matches.

Morons will always be morons. The firm is just a form of unity and acceptance for gang warfare.

It's pack mentality, and historically most of the firms rarely attended games just used the 'fixtures' as a mirror for who they fought.

[McGuire86]

That is a fair enough point.. but is most likely because of the size of the audience, alcohol being mixed in, lower/middle class etc, in comparison to Tennis and Rugby fans being seen as more upper class.

But then my point of as long as it is firm v firm and no innocent people are involved still stands imo.

Upper class Rugby League fans ? There's a new one

[Ryan]

Upper class Rugby League fans ? There's a new one

To be fair, Pompey is a third world country even next to the shittest parts of the north.

[Jam3s]

You sir are a moron.

That is all.


This.


Thank god I'm not the only thinking what the actual fuck...

You have some weird logic mate.

[Davyy]

To be fair, Pompey is a third world country even next to the shittest parts of the north.

I've seen a lot worse!

[McGuire86]

Pissed up faggots trying to feel 'hard'

[Tom5190]

Football violence is stupid. I'm passionate about music, just because someone else like a different type doesn't mean I can kick the crap out of them.

What other sport do you see fan violence like this? None. Just stupid.

Basketball in the states has a similar trend with firms fighting each other.

How stupid are you? So if your team looses, you see that as a reason to kick off? But you kick off at the people who support the team that beat you?

If someone kicked me, I'd possibly get violent. If someone kicked my car there's a chance I could get violent. I can't see what relevance this has to someone who supports an opposing football team though?

They don't kick off because the team loses. And it stays between willing parties 90% of the time. Also as far as I've always been told It's a sort of code not to involve scarfs.

I don't see a problem with it if it's out the way but when it starts going off at a train station for example then its wrong. People will always fight, if you completely remove football firms the people who were in them will fight elsewhere. Mainly town on Friday and Saturday nights from what I've seen.

Again it's worth noting that a lot of the people who fight in firms are friendly with each other outside of them.

International violence is stupid on our part as the firms in this country look like a primary school gang compared to some others I never understand why they bother with it.

[Carl-h]

You aren't just violent to any fan from the other team.. just the oppositions firm who are also 'up for it'.

And it is relevant because unless you've met people similar to this (I've met Cass Pennant so I understand) who are very passionate, you wouldn't understand. So I compared it to your car etc.

Don't know who the fuck that is. It's the same as me watching a bike race and fighting the other fans at the end of it. Just stupidity.

[Davyy]

One of the biggest name in hooliganism, anyway.. no it isn't at all..

[Ryan]

Violence for the sake of it is not something that's 'ok' in modern day society.

Cavemen just proving that they're the dregs of society.

[Carl-h]

One of the biggest name in hooliganism, anyway.. no it isn't at all..

Biggest name in hooliganism? What a place to be...

If you want to fight take it up as a sport and do it properly.

[Davyy]

Biggest name in hooliganism? What a place to be...

If you want to fight take it up as a sport and do it properly.

I wasn't saying it was.. It is something which hugely interests me and I was just saying who he was, as you didn't know to make my point more understandable.

They take it up as a hobby, I 'spose you could say.

[Jazz]

A lot of people have this view.. but why?

It is something they are clearly very passionate about.

Easy answer for you.

They insight and perform narrow-minded violence, they terrify the local residents to whichever stadium they happen to be arriving to, they clog up fast-food joints afterwards pissed out their heads and often causing criminal damage while singing, shouting and being abusive, they see anybody with a football shirt on that isn't theirs and set on them, they cost the police time, resources and man-power with the necessary extra secutiry, people get hurt,feuds begin which can lead to all other sorts of problems.... I could continue but I won't.

So the undeniable conclusion to this thread is that yes, those that insight and partake in football violence, whether physical or verbal, are scientifically-proven fucking idiots and may as well be shot to give the residents some peace, quiet and safety.

[Davyy]

Easy answer for you.

They insight and perform narrow-minded violence, they terrify the local residents to whichever stadium they happen to be arriving to, they clog up fast-food joints afterwards pissed out their heads and often causing criminal damage while singing, shouting and being abusive, they see anybody with a football shirt on that isn't theirs and set on them, they cost the police time, resources and man-power with the necessary extra secutiry, people get hurt,feuds begin which can lead to all other sorts of problems.... I could continue but I won't.

So the undeniable conclusion to this thread is that yes, those that insight and partake in football violence, whether physical or verbal, are scientifically-proven fucking idiots and may as well be shot to give the residents some peace, quiet and safety.

Atleast you backed up your answer, thanks.

But that wasn't the point of this thread, and went off topic.

[Jazz]

Atleast you backed up your answer, thanks.



You're most welcome.

[0rang3peel]

Why are millwall fans such needlessly violent cunts?

corrected.

on the general subject, you will always get the violent idiotic pissed types, but the amount of games, even derbys I've been to that have been smooth is far far greater.

everyone saying 'football fans are violent' should actually attend a game before they can comment on the situation, it's like me saying all car owner club meets are chavvy.

[stevo67]

Is this an old thread?I ask because Millwall are playing Wigan at wembley in the fa cup semi final today & West ham are playing southampton at southampton.So the supporters shouldn`t even be anywhere near each other today.

[Davyy]

Waterloo is the hub really.. West Ham were there to get the train down to Soton etc, Pompey playing Brentford.

[stevo67]

My bad for not reading the thread properly mate.

[Jay_]

Basketball in the states has a similar trend with firms fighting each other.


Are you saying, brits are as stupid as americans?! :panic:

[matt_vtr_15a]

What the fuck about that is 'the good old days'

Bunch of pissed up idiots thinking they live the lives of characters on football factory/green street...

Mindless idiots, the majority having no idea of how to even fight and in a one on one situation with a white belt 6 year old female karate student would probably get bitched up.

Looking for fights in the public, by pissed up hooligans is intimidating to families trying to enjoy a day out and a massive drain on our economy due to damage, waste of police time and resources and required medical care in some circumstances..

Lobbing bottles, hitting people with knuckledusters and fighting in large faggot groups is ghay and what 15 year old chavs do.

People that get their kicks out of this need to get a life and grow up, if you want to fight, learn a fighting style. Join a fighting academy, get a license and train and spar until you reach a level that your master /trainer is satisfied you can represent your academy...

It's something your friends and family can be proud of instead of fighting like an inbred.

[Jazz]

^ Haha, well said lad.

[Yates]

To be fair, Pompey is a third world country even next to the shittest parts of the north.

This I can confirm!

Seen it a few times before nothing too bad though. Not real football fans fighting. Real football fans can have banter with each other and get along

[Carl-h]

Fighting ruins it for family's and stuff too. I know stacks of people who would never go to a west brom vs wolves game just because of the trouble that would start after it.

I'm a wolves fan and work with a west brom fan, we get on great and have a right laugh with stacks of banter. Mostly towards me recently but I don't take it too seriously.

[iVTR]

itz cuz the otha team r fukin shit so dey deserve a batterin ugt me.

[Saxoladlesta]

I think they should be given an area (I.e a field) where they can just go and sort out their issues before a game. Wouldn't happen though as 99% of them only give it "the big un" when the police are about

[Pieface]

I think they should be given an area (I.e a field) where they can just go and sort out their issues before a game. Wouldn't happen though as 99% of them only give it "the big un" when the police are about

What issues? If the biggest issue in their life is another person supports another team, then their priorities are extremely wrong. Their priority should be getting off the dole.

[Yates]

Just seen the video in YouTube I never knew it was in the stands and against themselves makes it even worse

[PhilloVTR]

I just watched the video myself about ten minutes ago... and that is just disgusting.

Not only is it amongst the same set of fans, but they all turn on the police. Surprised only a handful walked out to be honest. Then again, could have turned insanely nasty if a lot went out :n:

[Yates]

Good Newcastle fans now

[stevo67]

Biggest name in hooliganism? What a place to be...

If you want to fight take it up as a sport and do it properly.

Its hardly something to be proud of is it?

[dondan]

Apparently in their deluded little world, yes it is.

Football "fans" what a fucking joke.

[McGuire86]

Its hardly something to be proud of is it?

What isn't ?

[dondan]

Read his post... It's pretty clear :).

[McGuire86]

I'm not clear to what he was saying isn't something to be proud of, as he was quoting someone saying take up fighting as a sport

[Viper]

I'm not clear to what he was saying isn't something to be proud of, as he was quoting someone saying take up fighting as a sport

You're not a bright spark are you.

[McGuire86]

You're not a bright spark are you.

Then enlighten my hungover intelligence.

[dondan]

Being a renowned name in football hooliganism is hardly something to be proud of... In summary :)

[McGuire86]

Being a renowned name in football hooliganism is hardly something to be proud of... In summary :)

Yes I get that thanks, but his post was quoting this

'Biggest name in hooliganism? What a place to be...

If you want to fight take it up as a sport and do it properly.'

I just read it as him saying it's not something to be proud of in regards to the latter..

[Viper]

Yes I get that thanks, but his post was quoting this

'Biggest name in hooliganism? What a place to be...

If you want to fight take it up as a sport and do it properly.'

I just read it as him saying it's not something to be proud of in regards to the latter..

Well it clearly doesn't make sense if he was referring to the latter so surely the logical thought would be that he was referring to the former, considering that makes sense.

[McGuire86]

Well it clearly doesn't make sense if he was referring to the latter so surely the logical thought would be that he was referring to the former, considering that makes sense.

No fucking shit Sherlock, was just a matter of confusion from being tired and hungover, read it and instantly replied without re-reading it. Here's a gold star.

[L33h]

In my eyes football violence is fucking pathetic! seriously assaulting someone over a ball of leather? Cmon man its like me stabbing somebody over the motogp!

People seriously need to get a grip of their lives ffs

[Viper]

No fucking shit Sherlock, was just a matter of confusion from being tired and hungover, read it and instantly replied without re-reading it. Here's a gold star.

So you asked for an explanation but get heated when one is given, even after you admit you were wrong.

Well done.

[McGuire86]

So you asked for an explanation but get heated when one is given, even after you admit you were wrong.

Well done.

Viper, you need to grow up seriously. I begin to wonder if all you live for is coming on here and picking at peoples grammar and literature. It's no wonder alot of people on the forum want to punch you in the mouth :y:

[Viper]

Viper, you need to grow up seriously. I begin to wonder if all you live for is coming on here and picking at peoples grammar and literature. It's no wonder alot of people on the forum want to punch you in the mouth :y:

You say I need to grow up yet you're the one having a little hissy fit. I don't see why you mention grammar or literature when my comment to you had nothing to do with either of those.

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[McGuire86]

I know the truth must hurt you, it's ok :hug:

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btw nice edit lool, always trying to pick at something and have the last laugh..

[Viper]

If the truth hurt I wouldn't still come on here.

It's interesting how you have suddenly jumped on me in this thread though when it was actually you showing the ignorance.

[Davyy]

What issues? If the biggest issue in their life is another person supports another team, then their priorities are extremely wrong. Their priority should be getting off the dole.

Very stereotyped.. A few ex hooligans i know are all from a good family, all had a job and it was just a bit of excitement on the weekend

[Davyy]

Just seen the video in YouTube I never knew it was in the stands and against themselves makes it even worse

What video is this ?

[nicole_]

i cant get my head around how people can get so worked up about football.

I was at Newcastle central station yesterday at about 3pm. I missed all the action, there was just a few miserable looking Newcastle supporters stood about, but there was police absolutely everywhere and they were telling regular travellers to get off the smaller local trains and go on the bigger cross-country, east coast services all for the sake of these pathetic football fans.