Gone German

[Ryancoyle]

Hi everyone,

After my Saxo VTR being written-off I decided to go German as they are better in every way.

Got my hands on a Bora 2000 which is in good condition for year.

The car is currently sitting on coilovers, remapped to 170 bhp and has RS4's wheels.

What does everyone think?

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[Dano]

nice daily barge you have there :y:

[0rang3peel]

yeah has potential, gash exhausts.

was the previous owner by any chance an asian fella

[Ryancoyle]

nice daily barge you have there :y:

Yeah I know thanks.

It's a lot better to drive than my old Saxo so I am happy.

[Ryancoyle]

yeah has potential, gash exhausts.

was the previous owner by any chance an asian fella

No he wasn't asian lol

I actually like the exhausts but the one on the right needs to be higher up.

Thinking of tinting back windows and getting Alphard alloys for it to start with.

Any other suggestions?

[Jay_]

I wouldn't say it's "better in every way" as it's no where near as fun. And IMO driving should be fun.

[Ryancoyle]

I wouldn't say it's "better in every way" as it's no where near as fun. And IMO driving should be fun.

My opinion just ;)

[Yates]

If only we had a section to put pics up of cars

[Manu]

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[Ryancoyle]

If only we had a section to put pics up of cars

I really am worrying about you?

Are you a Saxperience stalker?

[0rang3peel]

you need to change that plate too, it looks like it's been sharted straight out of halfrauds.

[Ryancoyle]

you need to change that plate too, it looks like it's been sharted straight out of halfrauds.

Yeah I was thinking that.

I think I will be getting them changed this week.

Probably go for some pressed plates

[knight-22]

I wouldn't say it's "better in every way" as it's no where near as fun. And IMO driving should be fun.

Ballers don't have fun though... it's all about driving slowly and looking g.

[0rang3peel]

Yeah I was thinking that.

I think I will be getting them changed this week.

Probably go for some pressed plates

yup will instantly improve the car for like 20 bucks

[GTuff]

yup will instantly improve the car for like 20 bucks

eurgh boras

so boring why not get an old audi or beemer? or a merc

[0rang3peel]

eurgh boras

so boring why not get an old audi or beemer? or a merc

why have you quoted me?

tbh think boras can look pretty smart and manage the daily hack quite well.

[Ryancoyle]

eurgh boras

so boring why not get an old audi or beemer? or a merc

Wouldn't get insured in a BMW and I was looking for old Audi's but the ones I went to view were in awful condition

[GTuff]

Wouldn't get insured in a BMW and I was looking for old Audi's but the ones I went to view were in awful condition

if yo can get insured on a bora with those mods you can get insured on a bmw!

im 23 with 1 year ncm and on an e36 i was gettin £800

just gota find the right insureres and not compare the fukin market to have fun

[LSOfreak]

A vw boring :S

Must put you to sleep driving that. Puts me to sleep looking at it..

(i jest i jest)

[Ryancoyle]

A vw boring :S

Must put you to sleep driving that. Puts me to sleep looking at it..

(i jest i jest)

Don't really think it's boring to drive as its 170 bhp lol.

[LSOfreak]

Don't really think it's boring to drive as its 170 bhp lol.

*facepalm

bhp is just pub talk. Do you know how much the thing weighs?? have you taken a corner at speed?

[Ryancoyle]

*facepalm

bhp is just pub talk. Do you know how much the thing weighs?? have you taken a corner at speed?

I know it's heavier than a Saxo but it's a lot more powerful than my Saxo so I like it ;) yeah, it doesn't seem to be that bad.

[Yates]

I wouldn't worry about me, I'm not the one who can't read.

Not really stalking, just every time I look in gen chat you have posted in wrong section.

[Ryancoyle]

I wouldn't worry about me, I'm not the one who can't read.

Not really stalking, just every time I look in gen chat you have posted in wrong section.

Does it annoy you haha?

[Yates]

No, just feel sorry for you

[Ryancoyle]

No, just feel sorry for you

You don't need to, I'm a big boy :homme:

[0rang3peel]

if yo can get insured on a bora with those mods you can get insured on a bmw!

im 23 with 1 year ncm and on an e36 i was gettin £800

just gota find the right insureres and not compare the fukin market to have fun

tbh most e36s are fucking sheds

Don't really think it's boring to drive as its 170 bhp lol.

it's still boring, 170bhp in a barge is not a lot and it handles well, like a barge. It's a boring car but I'm assuming you knew that when you bought it, maybe not though :wacko:

[Ryancoyle]

tbh most e36s are fucking sheds



it's still boring, 170bhp in a barge is not a lot and it handles well, like a barge. It's a boring car but I'm assuming you knew that when you bought it, maybe not though :wacko:

The reason I went for a Bora is because I needed a 5 door car and was spending too much money on petrol for my VTR.

I like the ride a lot better as well.

More comfortable and more space.

[Carl-h]

Can't see how it's better than a saxo at all tbh

[Yates]

Bigger windows to lick

[Ryancoyle]

Can't see how it's better than a saxo at all tbh

I know there are people who don't think it's better than a Saxo.

It's my opinion on what I think.

Everyone has a different opinion.

[Manu]

I know there are people who don't think it's better than a Saxo.

Local trip to the McD = saxo
100mile+ commute = anything else.
Comfort = not going to happen in a rattly saxo is it

I wouldn't pay notice to all those who think a saxo is better than anything else. They're nippy, fun to drive and cheap to maintain. Past that there isn't much to brag about, especially when the chav image kicks in.

[Ryancoyle]

:y:Local trip to the McD = saxo
100mile+ commute = anything else.
Comfort = not going to happen in a rattly saxo is it

I wouldn't pay notice to all those who think a saxo is better than anything else.

:y:

[Manu]

Nice car btw.

Not sure about the exhaust (matter of taste I suppose) but I'm sure you'll enjoy driving on torque rather than ragging a 1.6 above 5000 to get the same pace. Some kids out there never driven german before yet still have an opinion about it.

[Ryancoyle]

Nice car btw.

Not sure about the exhaust (matter of taste I suppose) but I'm sure you'll enjoy driving on torque rather than ragging a 1.6 above 5000 to get the same pace. Some kids out there never driven german before yet still have an opinion about it.

Yeah I do love the way it drives.

I think the exhausts are nice but then again just my opinion lol.

It's lowered on coilovers but it seems to be a lot more comfortable driving on shitty roads than the Saxo was.

The power is unreal as well, it pulls like a train so I'm happy with it.

[Manu]

I did notice the lowering, it suits the wheels great. It is more comfortable because longer wheelbase and suspension that's designed for a heavier car. In a saxo you'll feel every road scar not to mention potholes should you hit one.

It should pull, I guess you're surprised at the difference in torque at low revs.

[Ryancoyle]

I did notice the lowering, it suits the wheels great. It is more comfortable because longer wheelbase and suspension that's designed for a heavier car. In a saxo you'll feel every road scar not to mention potholes should you hit one.

It should pull, I guess you're surprised at the difference in torque at low revs.

Yeah big time, once the turbo kicks in it just keeps pulling and it's the same right up till 6th gear.

It feels a lot different than the Saxo I had.

The Saxo pulled well from 1st to 3rd but when getting to 4th / 5th there wasn't much pull off it

[Manu]

Same impressions here but that's the saxo design, more like 0-60 and not much going on thereafter. Then not much going on at all with 2 passengers or more.

Still got a soft spot for saxos as they're fun to drive, but once you grow out of that fun factor you end up looking at other cars. For that matter I don't miss my 106, what a heap of shite once out of town. Last but not least, safety. This week in my area a kid embedded his 106 in a parked truck, probably a combination of too much speed and extremely poor tarmac surface in wet conditions at night. His girlfriend lived but he was the meat in a Daf/pug sandwich.

[Gandi699]

Same impressions here but that's the saxo design, more like 0-60 and not much going on thereafter. Then not much going on at all with 2 passengers or more.

Still got a soft spot for saxos as they're fun to drive, but once you grow out of that fun factor you end up looking at other cars. For that matter I don't miss my 106, what a heap of shite once out of town. Last but not least, safety. This week in my area a kid embedded his 106 in a parked truck, probably a combination of too much speed and extremely poor tarmac surface in wet conditions at night. His girlfriend lived but he was the meat in a Daf/pug sandwich.

You grow out of having fun? When does this happen then?

[Manu]

You grow out of having fun? When does this happen then?

When I bought other cars. I haven't driven VT all my life and fancied a little over 1587 cc at some point. Besides, the lack of comfort, lack of room, cabin noise + rattling was doing my nuts in. Never been too keen on the pedal displacement either.

Saxos are wee nippy, cheap to maintain and fun round the corners but that's about it. For everything else they don't tick a single box. Oh yes, 60 in second.

[Ryancoyle]

When I bought other cars. I haven't driven VT all my life and fancied a little over 1587 cc at some point. Besides, the lack of comfort, lack of room, cabin noise + rattling was doing my nuts in. Never been too keen on the pedal displacement either.

Saxos are wee nippy, cheap to maintain and fun round the corners but that's about it. For everything else they don't tick a single box. Oh yes, 60 in second.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my Saxo as it was fun to drive but I always felt that something was going to break on it.

[Viper]

You really talk a load of bollocks. Are you saying you don't want a Saxo because you have grown out of having fun in a car?

I don't have a Saxo any more because in the grand scheme of things they are shit.

[Ryancoyle]

You really talk a load of bollocks. Are you saying you don't want a Saxo because you have grown out of having fun in a car?

I don't have a Saxo any more because in the grand scheme of things they are shit.

Who's this question too?

[Jay_]

You grow out of having fun? When does this happen then?

When you become a boring bastard like Manu.

I know I will be keeping my 5 for years now as it is the most fun car I've owned :y:

[Viper]

Who's this question too?

It was aimed at Manu :y:

[Ryancoyle]

It was aimed at Manu :y:

Aw okay lol was wondering there

[chinkostu]

I miss my saxo, and the 206 is really the same car in many ways, but rattles less and doesnt feel like somethings going to fall off every minute. It is however dull as fuck to drive, but even that was far better over long journeys as the saxo made me want to stop every hour to recover my back!

[Manu]

You really talk a load of bollocks. Are you saying you don't want a Saxo because you have grown out of having fun in a car?

I don't have a Saxo any more because in the grand scheme of things they are shit.

Driven a few saxos/106 over many years, and wanted to go back to driving a saloon. Back in context: grown out of having fun in a saxo/106 ta very much. My current car provides me satisfaction in many other ways.

When you become a boring bastard like Manu.


indeed :bored:

[Ryancoyle]

Saxo's are very enjoyable to drive but that's probably about it.

They are not very reliable / economical so that's why I changed

[0rang3peel]

Driven a few saxos/106 over many years, and wanted to go back to driving a saloon. Back in context: grown out of having fun in a saxo/106 ta very much. My current car provides me satisfaction in many other ways.



Sniffing the cum stained seats for one I imagine, you weird bastard.

[Manu]

child molester style?
Sniffing the cum stained seats for one I imagine, you weird bastard.

Someone's on a roll.

[0rang3peel]

Someone's on a roll.

http://static.tumblr.com/ooicj30/I9Fltwzyw/graceful_bow.gif

[Carl-h]

I'm not sure manu has ever enjoyed having fun?

I miss my saxo. It might not of been the most confortable car in the world but it cost nothing in fuel (yes there are better cars but I wish I could get 30mpg now, nevermind always getting 40). Servicing is cheap, parts are very cheap and if you buy a good one an look after it they're reliable in my experience. Pretty much all the jobs can be done at home with basic tools. They're pretty quick and good fun.

I bought an mx5 and got rid of the saxo. It was good fun and a great drive but I think the saxo probably won on fun. I really regret selling my saxo tbh.

Most of the German stuff doesn't appeal to me tbh. It's not half as reliable as people make out, they cost more when they do go wrong and they are just boring to drive. Capable maybe but so bloody dull.

Don't even get me started on landrovers...

[Ryancoyle]

I'm not sure manu has ever enjoyed having fun?

I miss my saxo. It might not of been the most confortable car in the world but it cost nothing in fuel (yes there are better cars but I wish I could get 30mpg now, nevermind always getting 40). Servicing is cheap, parts are very cheap and if you buy a good one an look after it they're reliable in my experience. Pretty much all the jobs can be done at home with basic tools. They're pretty quick and good fun.

I bought an mx5 and got rid of the saxo. It was good fun and a great drive but I think the saxo probably won on fun. I really regret selling my saxo tbh.

Most of the German stuff doesn't appeal to me tbh. It's not half as reliable as people make out, they cost more when they do go wrong and they are just boring to drive. Capable maybe but so bloody dull.

Don't even get me started on landrovers...

IMO I think German cars are far more reliable than Saxo's.

I have had two Saxo's within the last couple of years and had nothing but problems with them.

German parts are more expensive yes but last a lot longer than French parts.

Plus the 1.9 tdi engines are bulletproof

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[LSOfreak]

all depends your luck tbh

my saxo has been trouble free for years. Only problems its had were due to being low haha

i think german reliability is over rated. All it means is that its more expensive when the time comes that something will break.

[Yates]

Saxo's are very enjoyable to drive but that's put about it

Always a good thing for a car.

Cars are as reliable as its owner. I never had a major problem with the 3 saxos I had, over six years. Look after it service it and won't have a problem

[Ryancoyle]

Always a good thing for a car.

Cars are as reliable as its owner. I never had a major problem with the 3 saxos I had, over six years. Look after it service it and won't have a problem

I had plenty of problems with my two.

PAS pump for starters lol

[Jazz]

Bora is a decent motor and yes it is better than a Saxo ffs.

[L33h]

saxos are past their time now. id rather have the bora tbh

[0rang3peel]

Bora is a decent motor and yes it is better than a Saxo ffs.


not better at the lights. YOLO ROFL LOL

[Yates]

You can't say that jazz without some kind of review

[Ryancoyle]

You can't say that jazz without some kind of review

Well he can and he did :y:

[Prickle]

Gone German

Good, the French dont want you. ;)

Reliabilty is his and miss with ALL cars.

Ive covered over 500 motorway miles the last couple days and its been fine..

[Ryancoyle]

Good, the French dont want you. ;)

Reliabilty is his and miss with ALL cars.

Ive covered over 500 motorway miles the last couple days and its been fine..

That hurt!!! :homme:

[DeanAngell1234]

I think it's chavtastic but as long as you like it :)

[Prickle]

I think it's chavtastic but as long as you like it :)

This and theres better examples out there of Bora's then that but i dont drive it so dont care. :homme:

[Viper]

This and theres better examples out there of Bora's then that but i dont drive it so dont care. :homme:

*there are
*Boras
*than

[Prickle]

*dont care
*fuck off
*etc

[rey]

Those exhausts are an abortion

[Jazz]

not better at the lights. YOLO ROFL LOL

You on the meow-meow again?

[0rang3peel]

You on the meow-meow again?

yes, want a review?

[Jazz]

yes, want a review?

Yes please, preferably with pics.

If it's written well I can enter you into my magazine's annual Junky-of-the-year award.

[0rang3peel]

Yes please, preferably with pics.

If it's written well I can enter you into my magazine's annual Junky-of-the-year award.

Cheers, I'm currently at work fucked out of my face, so won't be able to provide one for you yet.

Have you found "the one" yet, maybe a passing girl who you glanced at in the street for 5 seconds?

Even so, I doubt it would last, relationships are often awkward when you live at home with your parents.

come at me br0 awaits the lololol you have a 306 lolol i have an m3

[smiith]

Like boras, this one isn't great, just my opinion.. Don't like the wheels, exhaust, or plates! It's not a sporty car to suit 2 exhausts..

Could be made to be decent with a hidden exhaust, maybe some nicer wheels, nothing too special, just something nicer, and not as battered.. Standard plates as well, then its dirt cheap to lower these, so that could easily be done..

Like said, you say its better than a saxo in every way.. VW came so low in a recent reliability poll didn't they? Just because its German, doesn't make it bullet proof.. You need jap for that.

As long as you like it though..

I'd love to fist vipers mum

[Jazz]

All this needless squabbling...

We're not so different you and me. The only difference is I fucking HATE needles. LMAO.. :P

Sorry... bored at work and need some entertainment. Nothing personal Peel.

[GolfJay]

There are some fucktards in this thread.

The Bora WILL be more comfortable and reliable
The Saxo WILL be more fun

Recent VWs were rated less reliable. Older ones are pretty much bullet proof.

Now quit your bitching.

With regards to the OP, the exhausts and number plates are horrendous. Other than that, looks alright.

[smiith]

Jay, come back when you have owned a VW, otherwise your opinion is worthless. BIIITTTTEEEEE

[0rang3peel]

All this needless squabbling...

We're not so different you and me. The only difference is I fucking HATE needles. LMAO.. :P

Sorry... bored at work and need some entertainment. Nothing personal Peel.

kept me entertained at work for a few minutes too :y:

anyway OP please get rid of them god awful exhausts

[GolfJay]

Jay, come back when you have owned a VW, otherwise your opinion is worthless. BIIITTTTEEEEE

Nice try. Come back when you can play football...