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Matty16v
23rd May 2013, 12:44
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, but I just don't for 1 second believe we don't have a cure for it.

For example, do you know how many US presidents have died from cancer? 1. and that was in 1885.

An unknown scientist in Australia released the following statement back in 2012.

Cancer. He said. "We can cure almost every cancer right now. Information is on file in the Rockefeller Institute, if it's ever decided that it should be released. But consider - if people stop dying of cancer, how rapidly we would become overpopulated. You may as well die of cancer as of something else."

This scientist has now gone missing.

What do you think?

manta
23rd May 2013, 12:48
It does make a bit of sense.

To stop over population then yes in theory cancer is a necessary evil.

Ryancoyle
23rd May 2013, 12:58
I think they have found a cure as well.

The amount of money pumped into cancer research and still nothing.

Has to be a load of balls.

nicole_
23rd May 2013, 13:03
theres probably tons of cures for things which for whatever reason wont ever get released.
I have an incurable skin condition - i have two creams at almost £8 each and if i was unlucky enough to have more than a mild case of it, id need them at least every month. its not even that uncommon so they must be raking it in from treatments for things like this! :panic:

Bedford126
23rd May 2013, 13:20
Do people actually realize that cancer isn't just one disease Every cell in the human body can rapidly grow and mutate into a form of cancer. This would mean that to cure cancer you would need a cure for every different cell.

Yeah they may have a cure for types of cancer but are they applicable to the masses... No because every cancer mutates differently. The only mass treatments we have are chemotherapy witch targets all rapid growing cells in the body, this is why hair falls out and fingernails stop growing and radio therapy witch simply targets anything the radiation waves are pointed at. None of these treatments are developed to specifically target one sort of cell so will never be a cure.

TomT
23rd May 2013, 13:24
theres probably tons of cures for things which for whatever reason wont ever get released.
I have an incurable skin condition - i have two creams at almost £8 each and if i was unlucky enough to have more than a mild case of it, id need them at least every month. its not even that uncommon so they must be raking it in from treatments for things like this! :panic:

Got a little rash at the minute and I haven't been able to get rid of it for months so I decided to finally pop to the doctors today - £23 fucking pound I ended up paying for some creams

Ryancoyle
23rd May 2013, 13:25
We know that but with the amount of money pumped into cancer research they should have cures for most of these by now.

Rockefeller are obviously involved in this as said.

People might think other people are mad when speaking about conspiracy theories i.e. Illuminati etc. but when stuff like this is published it makes you wonder.

Bedford126
23rd May 2013, 13:28
Got a little rash at the minute and I haven't been able to get rid of it for months so I decided to finally pop to the doctors today - £23 fucking pound I ended up paying for some creams

Try having dermatitis mate. I use a 15g tube of eumovate cream in 3 days costing £7 and a tube of eumocream every week costing £9. Still cheaper than a prescription lol.

W343NNA
23rd May 2013, 13:29
Do people actually realize that cancer isn't just one disease Every cell in the human body can rapidly grow and mutate into a form of cancer. This would mean that to cure cancer you would need a cure for every different cell.

Yeah they may have a cure for types of cancer but are they applicable to the masses... No because every cancer mutates differently. The only mass treatments we have are chemotherapy witch targets all rapid growing cells in the body, this is why hair falls out and fingernails stop growing and radio therapy witch simply targets anything the radiation waves are pointed at. None of these treatments are developed to specifically target one sort of cell so will never be a cure.

Bedford, Deciphering truths and educating idiots since July 2010

holdawayt
23rd May 2013, 13:29
We know that but with the amount of money pumped into cancer research they should have cures for most of these by now.

Rockefeller are obviously involved in this as said.

People might think other people are mad when speaking about conspiracy theories i.e. Illuminati etc. but when stuff like this is published it makes you wonder.

Obviously involved? Show some proof then lol.

TomT
23rd May 2013, 13:32
Try having dermatitis mate. I use a 15g tube of eumovate cream in 3 days costing £7 and a tube of eumocream every week costing £9. Still cheaper than a prescription lol.

Fuck me, what a pain

Ryancoyle
23rd May 2013, 13:38
Obviously involved? Show some proof then lol.

The American Cancer Society was founded at the New York Harvard Club in 1913 by none other than John D. Rockefeller Jr, which tells a story. You would be hard pressed to find a more service to money outfit than this, putting it politely, apart from the AMA. King of the Pharma shills.

In 1992, The Chronicle of Philanthropy reported that the ACS was "more interested in accumulating wealth than in saving lives." Fund-raising appeals routinely stated that the ACS needed more funds to support its cancer programs, all the while holding more than $750 million in cash and real estate assets. ACS holds over 1 Billion in net assets, with an annual budget of $380 million.

ACS quotes
"As you undoubtedly know, there is no evidence at the present time that any food or any combination of foods specifically effects the course of any cancer in man." -- Statement by the American Cancer Society, July 8, 1957. Dr. Gerson's Suppressed 1946 Congressional Testimony

".....no diet has ever been shown to cure cancer."---Barrie Cassileth, Ph.D ---American Cancer Society Spokesperson (2007) Dr. Gerson's Suppressed 1946 Congressional Testimony

"Surgery, Radiation Therapy and Chemotherapy... seldom produce a cure." -- Amercian Cancer Society Facts & Figures 2007

Carlvtr88
23rd May 2013, 13:49
If this was the case why do they cure some cancers ? Or are you suggesting that some of them you think they just leave alone. Pretending not to know how to fix it ?

My dad had Leukaemia when he was 30 they sorted him out with chemotherapy.

Bedford126
23rd May 2013, 13:50
The American Cancer Society was founded at the New York Harvard Club in 1913 by none other than John D. Rockefeller Jr, which tells a story. You would be hard pressed to find a more service to money outfit than this, putting it politely, apart from the AMA. King of the Pharma shills.

In 1992, The Chronicle of Philanthropy reported that the ACS was "more interested in accumulating wealth than in saving lives." Fund-raising appeals routinely stated that the ACS needed more funds to support its cancer programs, all the while holding more than $750 million in cash and real estate assets. ACS holds over 1 Billion in net assets, with an annual budget of $380 million.

ACS quotes
"As you undoubtedly know, there is no evidence at the present time that any food or any combination of foods specifically effects the course of any cancer in man." -- Statement by the American Cancer Society, July 8, 1957. Dr. Gerson's Suppressed 1946 Congressional Testimony

".....no diet has ever been shown to cure cancer."---Barrie Cassileth, Ph.D ---American Cancer Society Spokesperson (2007) Dr. Gerson's Suppressed 1946 Congressional Testimony

"Surgery, Radiation Therapy and Chemotherapy... seldom produce a cure." -- Amercian Cancer Society Facts & Figures 2007

That proves nothing.

hundreds of thousands of people are treated for cancer each day using the treatments that we have, There is no cure for cancer other than to kill the cells or to remove them and this is done on a daily basis throughout the world. If this conspiracy was true then why bother.

Ryancoyle
23rd May 2013, 13:51
Proves everything :y:

Bedford126
23rd May 2013, 13:54
Proves everything :y:

point out what it proves other than what you can copy and paste from Google.

Ryancoyle
23rd May 2013, 13:56
:panic: nope

Matty16v
23rd May 2013, 13:59
Here you go :)

CURE (http://educate-yourself.org/hc/CureForAllAdvancedCancers.pdf)

TomT
23rd May 2013, 13:59
Proves everything :y:

:panic: nope

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/358bgh5.jpg.gif

You're great at this

Ryancoyle
23rd May 2013, 14:00
:hug::clapping:

Bedford126
23rd May 2013, 14:04
Here you go :)

CURE (http://educate-yourself.org/hc/CureForAllAdvancedCancers.pdf)

And how far into that did you actually read?


The opinions and conclusions expressed in this book are
mine alone. They are based on my scientific research and on
specific case studies involving my patients. Be advised that
every person is unique and may respond differently to the
treatments described in this book

Says it all really in the first few pages. There is no mass cure and there never will be unless some one develops a human with no cells.

Carlvtr88
23rd May 2013, 14:12
And how far into that did you actually read?



Says it all really in the first few pages. There is no mass cure and there never will be unless some one develops a human with no cells.

Pretty sure there's a couple knocking about on this forum.

Stissy
23rd May 2013, 14:18
i think you all need to do more research into cancer. this argument is retarded.

W343NNA
23rd May 2013, 15:36
Pretty sure there's a couple knocking about on this forum.
Hahahahahaha

L33h
23rd May 2013, 16:26
didnt the queens mother die of cancer?

Gabbastard
23rd May 2013, 16:51
didnt the queens mother die of cancer?

Gin-based supercancer maybe.

baker556
23rd May 2013, 18:25
Some people are so uneducated.

Cancer costs money chemotherapy costs silly money the tablets alone cost £500 per month, the treatment depending on what type of chemo can go up to 1k each time.

Money is being pumped into cancer treatments and cures such as chemo which are being used everyday to help so many different lives.

The money spent on trying to find cures include, equipment, technology the best brains in Britain its very expensive work every time it is tested against something its a huge process.

I doubt the cure was found years ago which is now covered up to control the population.

Its not like the borders in Britain are closed anyway to "control" our population, "Please come in 35,000 foreigners a day we are killing are own to let you in".

My gf see's people with cancer every single day (radiographer) people from any age 5,12,15,20,25,30 etc etc young and old people everyday if there was a cure for every cancer it would be in use today.

stinkycheese
23rd May 2013, 21:19
Cannabis cures some cancers. Peer reviewed medical journals back this up.

Davyy
23rd May 2013, 21:28
My sister had/has cancer at the age of 24.. 95% of it has been removed without any radio or chemo and surely if this was the case they would have just said fuck it.. Let her die?

b0t13
24th May 2013, 11:22
Some people are so uneducated.

Cancer costs money chemotherapy costs silly money the tablets alone cost £500 per month, the treatment depending on what type of chemo can go up to 1k each time.

Money is being pumped into cancer treatments and cures such as chemo which are being used everyday to help so many different lives.

The money spent on trying to find cures include, equipment, technology the best brains in Britain its very expensive work every time it is tested against something its a huge process.

I doubt the cure was found years ago which is now covered up to control the population.

Its not like the borders in Britain are closed anyway to "control" our population, "Please come in 35,000 foreigners a day we are killing are own to let you in".

My gf see's people with cancer every single day (radiographer) people from any age 5,12,15,20,25,30 etc etc young and old people everyday if there was a cure for every cancer it would be in use today.

lol at your first sentence then your follow up,

this 'expensiveness' is the whole point of the thread, where do you think the money is going!?

and its not a UK thing, its a global one.

if this were true, then theyll have the methods to find the cures 'hidden' and then be putting financial resources into the wrong areas on purpose therefore leading the scientists down the wrong paths causing them to delay/not find a cure,

its not a case of someone finds it then its covered up, its more likely a case the people researching are being corn fed shite to keep them busy on the wrong things, after all the people 'looking' are run by business men/bosses, who answer to another boss etc.. all the way up

Kebabman
24th May 2013, 11:32
i think you all need to do more research into cancer. this argument is retarded.

+1

I take it you all have advanced medical degrees to be discussing cancer in such great detail... Funny how the people who believe in these conspiracy theories are often the ones too stupid to understand the underlying principals of them in the first place and offer no tangible evidence whatsoever.

Jizanthapus
24th May 2013, 11:51
Cannabis cures some cancers. Peer reviewed medical journals back this up.

If this is true, why isn't the government making it legal for cancer patients? or are they?

stinkycheese
24th May 2013, 12:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT-UIe7l3-Q

stinkycheese
24th May 2013, 12:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT-UIe7l3-Q

Everyone NEEDS to watch this and realise that you've been subjected to ridiculous propaganda your entire life.

Hazmanscoop
24th May 2013, 14:13
Cannabis does not cure cancer, there is however, research that shows oil from the hemp plant has shown promise at slowing/stopping cancer cells.

Also no one would hide the cure for cancer due to over population of the earth...

People really need to stop reading and believing everything on the internet.

Brettles1986
24th May 2013, 14:22
I would have said that if there was a cure for Cancer that is not out in the public domain then it would be down to being able to finance it than any other reason.

Over population is bollocks if you ask me, if the case was that they had those concerns then they would just deny you treatment so they do not waste money.

stinkycheese
24th May 2013, 17:49
Cannabis does not cure cancer, there is however, research that shows oil from the hemp plant has shown promise at slowing/stopping cancer cells.

Also no one would hide the cure for cancer due to over population of the earth...

People really need to stop reading and believing everything on the internet.

You need to do a little more research.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16908594/

Rogue_Shadow
24th May 2013, 18:08
IF there was a known cure for cancer that wasn't publicly available, you can be damn sure you wouldn't find a fucking trace of evidence to prove it :fcuk:

Being found to of withheld this knowledge would basically amount to genocide.

Hazmanscoop
24th May 2013, 18:20
You need to do a little more research.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16908594/

Research on what? You've clearly missed the point with your research...

This study isn't about smoking cannabis at all. The lab techniques used are from liquid form. They talk about THC, at no point does it say anything about smoking it.

I was talking about smoking cannabis having no effect and Hemp oil is from the cannabis plant btw in case I caused confusion.

stinkycheese
24th May 2013, 19:35
Research on what? You've clearly missed the point with your research...

This study isn't about smoking cannabis at all. The lab techniques used are from liquid form. They talk about THC, at no point does it say anything about smoking it.

I was talking about smoking cannabis having no effect and Hemp oil is from the cannabis plant btw in case I caused confusion.

Tetrahydrocannabinol or THC is the active ingredient in Cannabis. Taking a shit load of THC oil will abso-fucking-lutly get you HIGH AS FUCK whilst at the same time shrinking brain tumors.

Hemp oil does not contain THC.

Yates
24th May 2013, 19:41
whys cannabis so cheap if it cures cancer?

luthor1
24th May 2013, 19:58
The worlds' population won't grow beyond 10billion, which the Earth can tolerate.

As countries develop, they tend towards 2 children each replacing the father and mother.

There is a TED video showing the Maths, have a search.

There is no conspiracy! Diabetes though... now there is a possible conspiracy, Insulin is just too damn profitable

Hazmanscoop
24th May 2013, 20:19
Tetrahydrocannabinol or THC is the active ingredient in Cannabis. Taking a shit load of THC oil will abso-fucking-lutly get you HIGH AS FUCK whilst at the same time shrinking brain tumors.

Hemp oil does not contain THC.

Yes I know what THC is and that it's contained in cannabis. I was arguing that smoking doesn't have the same effect and cannot cure it.

And btw, hemp oil does contain THC. That's what you are calling THC oil. It's illegal hemp oil, therin being the problem of using it.

http://www.endalldisease.com/spain-study-confirms-hemp-oil-cures-cancer-without-side-effects/

Whoops...one of many sources

stinkycheese
24th May 2013, 20:34
Yes I know what THC is and that it's contained in cannabis. I was arguing that smoking doesn't have the same effect and cannot cure it.

And btw, hemp oil does contain THC. That's what you are calling THC oil. It's illegal hemp oil, therin being the problem of using it.

http://www.endalldisease.com/spain-study-confirms-hemp-oil-cures-cancer-without-side-effects/

Whoops...one of many sources

That article is inaccurate. THC is the active ingredient that has been shown to shrink tumors. It's also the same thing that gets you high. The reason they are administering it as a concentrated oil is because its easier to dose. You could just as easily make pot brownies or use a vaporiser. Hemp oil DOES NOT contain THC. You can use it however, as a healthier alternative to vegetable oil.

stinkycheese
24th May 2013, 20:35
Double post.

Hazmanscoop
24th May 2013, 22:49
What's to say that article is inaccurate? Hemp oil is hemp oil. THC or not. You keep saying that THC is the active ingredient and I've known that from the start.

That's what I'm saying, administrating it as an oil rather than smoking...

The argument I was making is that smoking the cannabis won't cause Tumors to shrink...

Feel like I'm just repeating myself.

stinkycheese
24th May 2013, 23:05
The article doesn't differentiate between a cannabis oil and a hemp oil. It's something that is confused all the time.

It doesn't matter how the THC is ingested. It doesn't have to be an oil it's just the most practical way. Inhaling any type of smoke isn't healthy. A vaporiser would work fine though.

Hazmanscoop
25th May 2013, 08:12
No that's what I'm trying to say, hemp oil is a type of cannabis oil.

Yes a vaporiser would work as that's a liquid form.

That's all I'm trying to say

adamm
25th May 2013, 08:37
Either way smoking it is gooood shit..

smiith
25th May 2013, 10:55
Really.. Some people think its a conspiracy that cancer can't always be cured? This is fucking laughable.

We have stuff to cure it, but it doesn't always work. Nothing is 100%, NOTHING!

Now stop trying to make out like people want you to die, before Viper bites you and give you aids.

1991Tom
25th May 2013, 11:25
I heard that high amounts of vitamin C is known to cure cancer. However it's not legal in many countrys due to the medicine companys would be out of a lot of money.

How true it is though i not sure.

Syphillis
26th May 2013, 11:28
I occasionally smoke weed. I don't have cancer.
It must have prevented it :detective:

Tom5190
26th May 2013, 22:22
Load of bollocks, my mum had cancer, it was horrific she only found out due to having a fit. She survived she cant work now. She was lucky. All the people in her support group meetings had died after 3 years she was the only one left.

If they wanted to control population levels cancer would be a stupid way

stinkycheese
2nd June 2013, 02:23
May 30, 2013 — Now Prof. Yosef Sarne of Tel Aviv University's Adelson Center for the Biology of Addictive Diseases at the Sackler Faculty of Medicine says that the drug has neuroprotective qualities as well. He has found that extremely low doses of THC -- the psychoactive component of marijuana -- protects the brain from long-term cognitive damage in the wake of injury from hypoxia (lack of oxygen), seizures, or toxic drugs. Brain damage can have consequences ranging from mild cognitive deficits to severe neurological damage.

stinkycheese
2nd June 2013, 02:24
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130530132531.htm?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28ScienceDaily% 3A+Latest+Science+News%29