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ChAdS
3rd June 2013, 09:25
Looking to get a Astra sri 150 56 reg. It's from a vauxhall dealer done 51,000. It caught the eye and the misses likes it but I know nothing about the car or the engine really so don't know what I am looking out for other than the obvious. It's been looked after by somebody got receipts for paint sealant etc etc. Engine is a Z19DTH

Only thing I see is EGL is on but they said this is down to it needing a service. So I told the sales guy if that stays on after the service. I won't be having it ( even though it comes with warranty )

So does anyone know anything about these cars?


Thanks

Nik_L
3rd June 2013, 10:31
Just make sure the warranty covers gearbox repairs.

Google M32 gearbox problems and you will see what i mean.

Manu
3rd June 2013, 10:38
^^^ Could be one of those shitty dealers covers that cover up to a limit of £200


they said this is down to it needing a service

obviously, duh. I'd have the car plugged in for diagnostics and find out.


So I told the sales guy if that stays on after the service.

Yeah well, they could just plug it in and reset the fault then tell you porkies. I've never met one single honest sales man so far.

ChAdS
3rd June 2013, 13:55
^^^ Could be one of those shitty dealers covers that cover up to a limit of £200




obviously, duh. I'd have the car plugged in for diagnostics and find out.




Yeah well, they could just plug it in and reset the fault then tell you porkies. I've never met one single honest sales man so far.

It's vauxhall dealer not some pikey back street tin unit.

I will not take the car if the light comes back on and before I actually take it I am going to have it in writing that they will fix what ever the issue is, But they would under warranty anyway.

I will have a look at the gearbox. Thanks

Stefan_Wood
3rd June 2013, 17:17
I own one of these, very good car when all is well.
The eml could be on due to someone putting a blanking plate on the egr, so a remap and a egr delete will sort that, i have the gearbox problem at the moment a full rebuild is £799 but if you catch it early its £399. When the rebuild is being done if you put the bearings in from a 10plate+ astra you will not have any gearbox issues again.

My work will be done under warranty and the gearbox is getting done tommorrow.

Overall very good spec for the price, good looking car, alot of bmw/seat/audi owners prefer these fiat engines over there own as they dont seem to have any major problems if you maintain them.

Btw a remap will see 210Bhp and 320ft/lbs of torque, yesterday i done a 30-70run with a 270bhp focus st he was very suprised that he did not leave me

Randyransford91
3rd June 2013, 18:03
I can only vouch for the engine as I have the same block in the Saab. Pretty decent engine, had no issues with mine and pulls well! I don't know if they have the flywheel fault like Saabs do but if they do, that will need doing at 80 - 100k

MJ05LLY
3rd June 2013, 18:24
Like above just ask if warranty will cover a full gearbox repair. Gearboxes can go at any moment but having that piece of mind your covered will be much better

L33h
3rd June 2013, 18:40
My advise is dont get it, its a vauxhall

MJ05LLY
3rd June 2013, 18:46
My advise is dont get it, its a vauxhall

Great advice.

Muppet. Also learn how to spell advice.

L33h
3rd June 2013, 18:50
shut up you little bellend

MJ05LLY
3rd June 2013, 19:03
shut up you little bellend

Grow up mate.
Your not big, not clever, not cool. Just someone trying to be clever on the other end of a computer and failing.

L33h
3rd June 2013, 19:06
im not tryin to be clever at all you cock, youre the once correcting peoples spellin... all i said was dont get a vauxhall cos theyre shit....

MJ05LLY
3rd June 2013, 19:11
im not tryin to be clever at all you cock, youre the once correcting peoples spellin... all i said was dont get a vauxhall cos theyre shit....

Shit based on what.....
You owned the car in question?

Couldn't help myself, thought you may need the help with your spelling.

Yates
3rd June 2013, 19:27
Grow up mate.
Your not big, not clever, not cool. Just someone trying to be clever on the other end of a computer and failing.

You're *

L33h
3rd June 2013, 19:31
shit based on about 10 of my mates having astras. Plus most people who know about cars know that vauxhalls are cheaply made and are unreliable.

Plus they're ugly as fuck imo

ChAdS
3rd June 2013, 20:10
shit based on about 10 of my mates having astras. Plus most people who know about cars know that vauxhalls are cheaply made and are unreliable.

Plus they're ugly as fuck imo

You're not wanted on this thread skrunter.

I am going into see the vauxhall sales man tomorrow going to confirm a few things and get it in writing before I do a deal.

Will use common sense on the gearbox and the engine. See what's happening.

MJ05LLY
3rd June 2013, 20:13
You're *

Point taken :oops:


shit based on about 10 of my mates having astras. Plus most people who know about cars know that vauxhalls are cheaply made and are unreliable.

Plus they're ugly as fuck imo

You have your opinion mate, your entitled too it. Am sure the OP will choose a different car now you have given your insightful reasoning.

Gazer
3rd June 2013, 20:24
I own one of these, very good car when all is well.
The eml could be on due to someone putting a blanking plate on the egr, so a remap and a egr delete will sort that, i have the gearbox problem at the moment a full rebuild is £799 but if you catch it early its £399. When the rebuild is being done if you put the bearings in from a 10plate+ astra you will not have any gearbox issues again.

My work will be done under warranty and the gearbox is getting done tommorrow.

Overall very good spec for the price, good looking car, alot of bmw/seat/audi owners prefer these fiat engines over there own as they dont seem to have any major problems if you maintain them.

Btw a remap will see 210Bhp and 320ft/lbs of torque, yesterday i done a 30-70run with a 270bhp focus st he was very suprised that he did not leave me

As if lol, i did say that you would have gearbox problems -_-

welshpug
3rd June 2013, 20:42
dealers probably the worst of the lot in trying to sell you a car for more than its worth with hidden faults, its how they make money.

Personally I would not buy a GM diesel of that age, ticking timebomb of expensive failures.

ChAdS
3rd June 2013, 21:08
dealers probably the worst of the lot in trying to sell you a car for more than its worth with hidden faults, its how they make money.

Personally I would not buy a GM diesel of that age, ticking timebomb of expensive failures.

How can you tell or be so sure of that? Its a 56 reg with 51, 000 and I get a years warranty can't be that bad really

Davyy
3rd June 2013, 21:10
Point taken :oops:




You have your opinion mate, your entitled too it. Am sure the OP will choose a different car now you have given your insightful reasoning.

Point wasn't taken very well..

MJ05LLY
3rd June 2013, 21:43
Point wasn't taken very well..

Still time... few more words of wisdom may help

:afro:

L33h
3rd June 2013, 21:55
Wtf is a skrunter?

Nik_L
4th June 2013, 06:35
I own one of these, very good car when all is well.
The eml could be on due to someone putting a blanking plate on the egr, so a remap and a egr delete will sort that, i have the gearbox problem at the moment a full rebuild is £799 but if you catch it early its £399. When the rebuild is being done if you put the bearings in from a 10plate+ astra you will not have any gearbox issues again.

My work will be done under warranty and the gearbox is getting done tommorrow.

Overall very good spec for the price, good looking car, alot of bmw/seat/audi owners prefer these fiat engines over there own as they dont seem to have any major problems if you maintain them.

Btw a remap will see 210Bhp and 320ft/lbs of torque, yesterday i done a 30-70run with a 270bhp focus st he was very suprised that he did not leave me

That's not strictly true about the model year bearings. Plenty 2010+ cars that have had issue's, including Astra J GTC's etc.

IIRC its been found out that its the oil that Vauxhall use. Its the wrong grade and heats up too quickly which starts to wear the bearings out.

Nik_L
4th June 2013, 06:39
shit based on about 10 of my mates having astras. Plus most people who know about cars know that vauxhalls are cheaply made and are unreliable.

Plus they're ugly as fuck imo

Unreliable, yet Vauxhall are offering a lifetime warranty on the new cars, and have been doing so for the last few years. How does that work?? Is it some sort of marketing stunt where they know how unreliable their cars are, but are offering to fix them free of charge?? Oh wait, that can't be right.

Still have the same constructive views of them being "shit" i see. :homme:

crutchs
4th June 2013, 19:51
Dont get it. not a 1.9 there are too many problems i see daily (vauxhall techy), gearbox, flywheel, injectors, egr valves, dpf problems, inlet manifold.

plus if you are buying it surely they would make sure the lights off. i know in my place cars are only sent out if there right.

iVTR
4th June 2013, 20:54
Wtf is a skrunter?

+1 :homme:

ChAdS
5th June 2013, 11:44
Dont get it. not a 1.9 there are too many problems i see daily (vauxhall techy), gearbox, flywheel, injectors, egr valves, dpf problems, inlet manifold.

plus if you are buying it surely they would make sure the lights off. i know in my place cars are only sent out if there right.

It's sorted now needed a new EGR valve. So light is out. still unsure got a test drive tomorrow. So will see then. Also been looking at a focus 1.6tdci.

If I got the Astra I do have 1 year warranty which is fair really to say it's a 56reg. hmmmm

iVTR
5th June 2013, 11:56
My 'rents have a 07' Astra cdti sri 150 1.9 diesel, a fair bit has gone wrong with it.. they don't rate it very highly having always had vauxhalls.

The risk you take mate, be more fun than a focus 1.6 no matter what though..

crutchs
5th June 2013, 12:12
If you get a astra grt the 1.7 derv. If your after a derv. There not as problematic

ChAdS
5th June 2013, 15:08
Hmmm. I'm strongly thinking about the focus 1.8 tdci now

Prickle
5th June 2013, 15:10
Dad has the 1.8 tdci focus.

No problems in the 3+ years hes had it

tbf i dont know what the common issues are with them.

ChAdS
5th June 2013, 15:16
Dad has the 1.8 tdci focus.

No problems in the 3+ years hes had it

tbf i dont know what the common issues are with them.

Proper brain fucking myself on this one. Start new job soon and really do need a 5dr diesel. Focus doesn't look as nice but I'd only assume it would be more reliable

Stefan_Wood
5th June 2013, 15:24
Get the car remapped takes out the EGR, if gearbox does go its £425 for a rebuild with uprated bearings so shouldnt go again.

Alot of German car fans do rate the engine on these as after them 2 things are done they are fine.

hellonpluto
5th June 2013, 15:30
If there is any warning lights on that should not be on then dont buy the car.

Find another one.

ChAdS
5th June 2013, 20:17
Went to see the car again tonight. The warning light has gone they replaced the egr valve. It's currently in process ready for selling and mot. They have replaced the front 2 tyres also. The 1 year warranty cover everything bar wipers. Bulbs. Batterys. Tyres. It covers engine. Clutch. Gearbox. I think I am going to go for this astra as it's in mint condition.

blackie_2k5
5th June 2013, 20:28
Dad has the 1.8 tdci focus.

No problems in the 3+ years hes had it

tbf i dont know what the common issues are with them.

Speedo

Paul
5th June 2013, 20:31
Went to see the car again tonight. The warning light has gone they replaced the egr valve. It's currently in process ready for selling and mot. They have replaced the front 2 tyres also. The 1 year warranty cover everything bar wipers. Bulbs. Batterys. Tyres. It covers engine. Clutch. Gearbox. I think I am going to go for this astra as it's in mint condition.

Sounds alright to be fair.

Theres a lot of idiotic comments (as expected) in this thread, probably most off people who haven't owned a vauxhall.

I'm sure you'll love the Astra compared to previous saxos. It will be much more comfortable and practical.

You will miss the fun and feel of the Saxo after a while though, might be worth buying a cheap saxo as a track toy if you have the means to do so.

crutchs
5th June 2013, 20:50
Went to see the car again tonight. The warning light has gone they replaced the egr valve. It's currently in process ready for selling and mot. They have replaced the front 2 tyres also. The 1 year warranty cover everything bar wipers. Bulbs. Batterys. Tyres. It covers engine. Clutch. Gearbox. I think I am going to go for this astra as it's in mint condition.

good luck with the purchase, hope nothing goes wrong. if it does the only bad thing is it takes forever for them to get the autherisation to do the work.

Prickle
5th June 2013, 21:01
Proper brain fucking myself on this one. Start new job soon and really do need a 5dr diesel. Focus doesn't look as nice but I'd only assume it would be more reliable

Its a comfortable car, pulls alright.

He has a light Blue 5dr 09 plate. identical to this.
http://www.mackiemotors.com/upload/images/stock/medium/1304_3336.jpg

ChAdS
6th June 2013, 08:58
Sounds alright to be fair.

Theres a lot of idiotic comments (as expected) in this thread, probably most off people who haven't owned a vauxhall.

I'm sure you'll love the Astra compared to previous saxos. It will be much more comfortable and practical.

You will miss the fun and feel of the Saxo after a while though, might be worth buying a cheap saxo as a track toy if you have the means to do so.

Yeah I have not had a saxo for years mate, got to say don't miss them that much really lol. yeah I know what you mean. Not been on here for awhile it's still the same. I think you mods should start kicking some arse and flush a few of the idiots out.

Yeah astra seems good. thing is I can't get the same car anywhere else and no one else offers a year warranty. People only offer a MAX 3 MONTH. Which is no good really. Going to test drive it tonight. I will report back.

ChAdS
6th June 2013, 08:59
Its a comfortable car, pulls alright.

He has a light Blue 5dr 09 plate. identical to this.
http://www.mackiemotors.com/upload/images/stock/medium/1304_3336.jpg

Looks good mate only thing that puts me off is the look of it at the side of a astra. I do prefer the look of the SRi astra oppose to that focus.

0110craig
6th June 2013, 17:55
A collegue had one a 08 reg 1.9cdti for 3 years from new (company car) surprisingly nothing went wrong with it.. He killed it and i mean killed it from cold everyday from morning untill night as well. Luck of the draw I guess, but when he gave it back he had done around 60k in it iirc.

ChAdS
7th June 2013, 08:30
Well I have done the deal last night test drove it clutch felt fine, gearbox felt fine. I could not find nothing wrong with it. Engine pulled very hard, turbo kicked in and didn't sound fucked either. The 12 months warranty is a AA warranty but to be honest the car has been maintained very well and if anything did go wrong I am covered with this AA warranty for engine, clutch, gearbox. It's not the best warranty but to be honest it's better than nothing.

0110craig
7th June 2013, 23:52
Glad to hear you are happy, enjoy it mate.

ChAdS
7th July 2013, 16:48
I've backed out of the deal on the astra. Soon as I signed paperwork to do the deal they was a of humming and raring over the clutch being covered so I backed out!


Now have a focus 1.6 tdci 57 plate is the zetec climate. Drives mint at the moment. Just hope the turbo doesn't go as there notorious for that but.... I do have a 1 year in garage warranty though which covers all mechanical! Car has done 48, 000 so nothing really!