Help With Movement Pics....

[Clouds_mate]

Wounder if any of you photo guys can help help me with this so i can get some nice pictures at Trax next week.

Here is my first attemp. So only at a quater event so wasnt anything challenging.

I tried i few different settings so cant really remember what i used for what shots etc...

These are shown in order taken so i hope you can see that i was getting better as the day went on..

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0713.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0718.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0726.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0727.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0746.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0731.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0793.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0791.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/York%20Drag/DSCF0812.jpg


These have just been taken straight from the camera and be resized.

My Camera is the Fujifilm s5600, could someone help?

Cheers

[dannyjay]

Think its something to do with shutter speed, and tracking.

[Barry123]

what I found was the automatic shutter speeds tended to be ok and it was just a case of tracking the object as it moved. As you get used to it, you can lower the ISO and increase the shutter speed to accenuate the movement :)

Try rigging it on a tripod and use the swivel to track. That way you'll get less shake camera and a smoother looking shot.

If you pick a copy of Evo and study the pictures in there... i recon the magazine is the best in the UK for imaginative and interesting shots :Y:

[Jungle_Jim]

with the Fujifilm s5600 set it too S mode and start off with a shutter speed of about 1/180 and then adjust it to suit the conditions. you may want to increase how long the shutter is open, and therefore how much movement you capture by reducing the shutter speed ie 1/60. the trick is finding the balance between a shutter speed that is slow enough to give movement but quick enough to capture the cars sharply.
once you have got the right settings worked out its then a case of paning with the car as it drives past. i found it useful to look at one key point on the car and just follow that like a door handle etc.

from what i can see though you pretty much had the right idea, just some of the shots above would have benefitted from a slower shutter speed.
hope that helps

[Clouds_mate]

Cheers guys. I hope someone takes a laptop to trax so i can have alook while there then keep on testing till i find out the best way for me :)

[DaveG]

I think 1/160 of a second might be a bit slow for beginners.

I would start high and make sure that you can actually pan (follow the car with the camera) smoothly and at the right speed, and concentrate on your timing before lowering the shutter speed. Make sure you press the shutter release gently as well, as hitting it too hard will make your camera dip down and you'll get motion blur in the wrong direction!

Also some cameras don't have 'intelligent' focusing meaning that they don't alter the focus as the car you are tracking comes towards you, so that could come into play as well. If your camera doesn't it might make things hard. By the time the camera has focused on it, it may be nearer to you than at first, and you may get an out of focus shot.

Once you have your panning technique down you can have some fun.

Here are some shots at varying shutter speeds :) - fairly basic side on or 3/4 shots work best to illustrate shutter speed

1/320s
http://images1.fotki.com/v320/photos/1/105162/3572822/IMG_2552-vi.jpg

1/250s
http://images16.fotki.com/v298/photos/1/105162/3497917/IMG_9976-vi.jpg

1/200s
http://images16.fotki.com/v316/photos/1/105162/3572822/IMG_2078-vi.jpg

1/160s
http://images16.fotki.com/v299/photos/1/105162/3419689/64061372copy-vi.jpg

1/125s
http://images18.fotki.com/v340/photos/1/105162/3930080/IMG_0250-vi.jpg

1/80s
http://images12.fotki.com/v237/photos/1/105162/3930080/IMG_0010-vi.jpg

1/50s
http://images16.fotki.com/v316/photos/1/105162/3572822/IMG_2591-vi.jpg

1/30s
http://images12.fotki.com/v237/photos/1/105162/2708354/0110120-vi.jpg

Finally, a really slow one. 1/20s
http://images17.fotki.com/v309/photos/1/105162/3497917/IMG_0055-vi.jpg

:)

[Clouds_mate]

Cheers for that dave. Just looking at my manual atm. I know how to change the shutter speed etc.

Few questions.

What iso should i be using?
also which one - S-AF, MF, C-AF

Sorry if i seem a noob ;)

[DaveG]

ISO - the lowest you can get away with, 100 or 200 should be fine.

I don't know what S-AF and C-AF mean, I've never used a Fuji. The differences will be in your instruction booklet. MF is "Manual Focus" so don't use that one!

[Clouds_mate]

Appreciated Dave, Cheers mate

[Jungle_Jim]

also which one - S-AF, MF, C-AF



as far as i know and if its the same as a nikon slr,

then the s-af = Single Servo AF (S)
C-AF = Continuous Servo AF (C)

therefore i would use the C-af function. :)

*cough rep cough*

[DaveG]

haha, no one reps me for all the advice I dole out

[Clouds_mate]

i think you will find i did Dave ;)

[oz_borne]

but do you have to still pan with the car!?

:A:

[oz_borne]

i have 50 - 400 on my canon ixus, and i'm still getting hsite shots

i thouhgt the higher the number, i.e. 400 the quicker the shutter speed the better the pic?

WRONG?!

:A:

[Clouds_mate]

Slower the shutter speed is better i think mate.

We can give it ago at the weekend buddy

[DaveG]

i think you will find i did Dave ;)

didn't notice! :)


but do you have to still pan with the car!?

yes!


i have 50 - 400 on my canon ixus, and i'm still getting hsite shots

i thouhgt the higher the number, i.e. 400 the quicker the shutter speed the better the pic?

that's ISO

slower shutter speed will give you more sense of speed, faster shutter will give you less.

[Clouds_mate]

Got some wack photos at trax but some have been an improvment...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/TRAX%201/DSCF0868.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/TRAX%201/DSCF0969.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/TRAX%201/DSCF0959.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/TRAX%201/DSCF0979.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/TRAX%201/DSCF1046.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/DannyBoyLeckie/Car%20Shows/TRAX%201/DSCF1064.jpg


Was very hard to find a good place to take them withit been a show and safety measures. How do you guys get postions?


Dave - i think iv seen you mention a plug in you use to view the shutter speed etc for pics would you be able to tell me what some of the above are so i can try these out again. Also one uploading i noticed that its hard get full foces on the cars like the back end is blurly how can you resolve this??

Would be cool if you could me some more adivse mate or anyone....


Cheers

[DaveG]

Silverstone is notoriously bad for people shooting from the public areas without long lenses. That's how you get decent shots from there, focal length.

The focus issue you talk of could be one of many things

1. The camera not focusing fast enough
2. You not 'panning' at the right speed to match the speed of the car
3. The car moving around/changing direction as you shoot
4. Too slow shutter - causing motion blur
5. Too large aperture - narrowing your depth of field

There are many variables.

As for the EXIF viewer I use OPanda iEXIF. Get it here

http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/

Once you've downloaded it, right click any image and on the window that pops up is an option to view EXIF details.