smoking update!

[LEONARDOY]

A question to any fellow Saxo smokers! Do you consider lighting up whilst driving to be a hazard? If I'm in town I'll wait until I'm stationary-eg at traffic lights. On the open road if I want to start smoking I'll check that the road ahead is straight and relatively traffic free before taking out a cigarette-then look again before momentarilly dipping my eyes to light up. Also I make sure my cigarettes are close to hand before setting off and not covered up by the usual in car paraphanalia! I think it's crucial to remain focused at all times when driving and starting to smoke at the wheel-I'll admit-can be a temporary distraction.

[Prickle]

Not sure if retard or spambot

[Cam]

Not sure if retard or spambot

Both I would say.

[LAURA-SAXO-VTRS-BREAKERS]

Good point. not something i think about now as i wont smoke in the car with my boy.
But before hand i'm sure i was guilty (maybe) . Think every journey has its distractions though.

[lewismonteith]

Before I gave up I'd smoke all the time driving, looking back I'd say it's more dangerous than being on your phone. If you drop your phone you can get it later, drop a fag and you're pretty fucked


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[McGuire86]

Should be banned, even worse is when people throw their dog ends out the window. Had one bounce up onto my windshield once :clapping:

[12u55]

Should be banned, even worse is when people throw their dog ends out the window. Had one bounce up onto my windshield once :clapping:

This, absoultely gets on my ends.
I'm more worried what damaged it'll do if it lodges in my engine bay somewhere, or gets stuck onto the body somewhere like a carrier bag does.
seen plenty of bin fires from just one cig end.

[Brettles1986]

Should be banned, even worse is when people throw their dog ends out the window. Had one bounce up onto my windshield once :clapping:

Someone did this before next to my brother on a dual carriageway, the dog end went through his window and landed on his daughters lap burning her inside leg.

[AirVTS]

Smoking kills as it is. Smoking and driving? Well, Einstein I ain't but I'm pretty sure it's not overly safe to look away from the road to start a fire just below your own nose!

[blackie_2k5]

Could just stop smoking

Then you'd have more money for crack..

[Ali123]

most of the time i keep my cigs up by the clocks so theyre just there , but yeah if im in a built up area i'll wait till im at a set of lights etc to light up

[greyjasper51]

Driving is the worst time for me... Ill light up anywhere unless im round town then ill wait until im stopped or going slow in a straight line...

[Manu]

OP sounds retar- very conscious about road safety :homme:

Go crash somewhere else when you'll drop it inside the cabin. Then have fun driving your ashtray, and smell like one once you get out..

[wildrenegade]

http://www.superiorelectroniccigarette.co.uk/

get a e cig for driving

[devilsadvocate]

Should be banned imo.

A) Fucking disgusting, especially if you are sitting behind a smoker in a line of traffic.
B) Most drivers throw their dog ends out of the window anyway.
C) I said so

[EwynSaxo]

Normally wait till I'm out the car to have a cig but every now and then I'll have one in the car on first start up till its warm by that time its normally smoked
Dunno how anyone can say a fag could damage your car, throw a end out the window and the cherry ( the lit end for non smokers) will fly off straight away so its left with a bit of cotton wool tip, if that worry
ies you then you should seek mental help

[Stissy]

On topic OP: as far as i know, its against the law to light a cigarette while driving anyway? Smoking is ok, but lighting one you should be stationary.

Should be banned, even worse is when people throw their dog ends out the window. Had one bounce up onto my windshield once :clapping:

it wouldn't do any damage anyway mate, even if its lit, for how long its in contact with your car you'd get more damage to the bodywork every journey from stone chips.

Someone did this before next to my brother on a dual carriageway, the dog end went through his window and landed on his daughters lap burning her inside leg.

Normally wait till I'm out the car to have a cig but every now and then I'll have one in the car on first start up till its warm by that time its normally smoked
Dunno how anyone can say a fag could damage your car, throw a end out the window and the cherry ( the lit end for non smokers) will fly off straight away so its left with a bit of cotton wool tip, if that worry
ies you then you should seek mental help

spot on.

I've done it occasionally in the past - i'd usually use the ash tray to put the end out it, or waited until there was nobody about. i can understand it annoys people but in reality it'll never do any damage.

[Manu]

so its left with a bit of cotton wool tip, if that worry
ies you then you should seek mental help

Not cotton.

The composition of cigarette butts is largely misunderstood. Each butt contains remnants of tobacco and paper, as well as the filter. Filters may look like cotton, but they are actually made of plastic filaments. These are made from a type of plastic called cellulose acetate, which degrades very slowly – anywhere between 2 months and 15 years, depending on exposure to air and water.
Cigarette filters are specifically designed to accumulate particulate smoke components, including toxic chemicals such as cadmium, lead, arsenic and zinc. Littered butts leach these chemicals as they decompose, contributing to soil and water pollution and impacting on wildlife habitat.



spot on.

I've done it occasionally in the past - i'd usually use the ash tray to put the end out it, or waited until there was nobody about. i can understand it annoys people but in reality it'll never do any damage.

A dog end found its way into a Volvo truck's air filter and caught fire. With a trailer full of butter which also caught fire. With other trucks around, that also caught on fire. With the MontBlanc tunnel all around it, which also caught fire and killed 39 people in the process. The tunnel was closed for ages, and the resulting traffic jams produced previously unseen pollution peaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Blanc_Tunnel#The_1999_fire

That's just one example of fire caused by a cig. I'm not too impressed at people throwing whatever out of the windows, and any other "yeah but" bullshit excuse that comes along.

[Stissy]

Not cotton.





A dog end found its way into a Volvo truck's air filter and caught fire. With a trailer full of butter which also caught fire. With other trucks around, that also caught on fire. With the MontBlanc tunnel all around it, which also caught fire and killed 39 people in the process. The tunnel was closed for ages, and the resulting traffic jams produced previously unseen pollution peaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Blanc_Tunnel#The_1999_fire

That's just one example of fire caused by a cig. I'm not too impressed at people throwing whatever out of the windows, and any other "yeah but" bullshit excuse that comes along.

The cause of the fire is disputed. Different accounts report it to be a cigarette stub carelessly thrown at the truck, and it supposedly entered the engine induction snorkel above the cab, setting the paper air filter on fire, a mechanical or electrical fault, or poor maintenance of the truck's engine.

this?.

[0rang3peel]

I honestly can't believe people are worried about a fag end 'damaging' their car.

I'm not surprised it's Manu leading the charge of dribble, you had that replacement tin hat I ordered for you?

I can't believe it but I actually agree with everything Stissy has posted.

[Stissy]

I honestly can't believe people are worried about a fag end 'damaging' their car.

I'm not surprised it's Manu leading the charge of dribble, you had that replacement tin hat I ordered for you?

I can't believe it but I actually agree with everything Stissy has posted.

we're turning over a new leaf :hug:

[blackie_2k5]

My car should be fine

I don't run an air filter

Smoke on :y:

[blackie_2k5]

My car should be fine

I don't run an air filter

Smoke on :y:

[blackie_2k5]

Or a snorkel for that matter

[EwynSaxo]

You would have to be very very unlucky to suck up a lit fag into your filter.. .

[Giraffe]

I honestly can't believe people are worried about a fag end 'damaging' their car.

I'm not surprised it's Manu leading the charge of dribble, you had that replacement tin hat I ordered for you?

I can't believe it but I actually agree with everything Stissy has posted.

Can I complain about it just being a form of littering and it being generally inconsiderate?

@Ewyn, maybe you would have to be very unlucky, but there really is no reason to do it in the first place and even if there is a tiny chance, surely it's better to just be considerate and not chuck it out the window?

[Brettles1986]

Can I complain about it just being a form of littering and it being generally inconsiderate?

@Ewyn, maybe you would have to be very unlucky, but there really is no reason to do it in the first place and even if there is a tiny chance, surely it's better to just be considerate and not chuck it out the window?

I agree, should put them in your pocket like everyone else until you find a bin ... might hurt a little but stop smoking in that case.

[Stissy]

Can I complain about it just being a form of littering

you can complain to the people in town on a saturday night if you like?

[Giraffe]

you can complain to the people in town on a saturday night if you like?

What relevance does that have? Are you seriously trying to justify littering because other people do it? Maybe it's just the dicksound thing to do.

I agree, should put them in your pocket like everyone else until you find a bin ... might hurt a little but stop smoking in that case.

Or the ashtray

[Brettles1986]

What relevance does that have? Are you seriously trying to justify littering because other people do it? Maybe it's just the dicksound thing to do.



Or the ashtray

Do newer cars even have them?

[blackie_2k5]

You would have to be very very unlucky to suck up a lit fag into your filter.. .

Haha, he ^^^ said "sucking fags" :zainy:

Hi dave

[Giraffe]

Do newer cars even have them?

I have no idea.

Hi Andrew.

[Stissy]

What relevance does that have? Are you seriously trying to justify littering because other people do it? Maybe it's just the dicksound thing to do.

EDIT: i give up on you.

[0rang3peel]

Can I complain about it just being a form of littering and it being generally inconsiderate?

@Ewyn, maybe you would have to be very unlucky, but there really is no reason to do it in the first place and even if there is a tiny chance, surely it's better to just be considerate and not chuck it out the window?

Yup, don't get my wrong I don't smoke but I think it's just as bad as dropping a crisp packet out the window, and I think it's dangerous.

just funny that people seriously think their vehicles at risk LOL

[EwynSaxo]

Can I complain about it just being a form of littering and it being generally inconsiderate?

@Ewyn, maybe you would have to be very unlucky, but there really is no reason to do it in the first place and even if there is a tiny chance, surely it's better to just be considerate and not chuck it out the window?

Not disputing the fact that its litter always put mine in the ashtray these days or the bin as most have a ashtray on the lids now

[Giraffe]

EDIT: i give up on you.

FUCK YES. I won on the internet.

[Hazmanscoop]

I throw mine out of the window...

Try to at least be considerate and wait for no one to be around or at slow speed.

I'm not one for caring about other peoples feelings.

[EwynSaxo]

I throw mine out of the window...

Try to at least be considerate and wait for no one to be around or at slow speed.

I'm not one for caring about other peoples feelings.

Remember that's our future your throwing away :)

[Hazmanscoop]

What?

your future?...

You want to collect my tab dumps or am i mistaken?

[Manu]

It's perfectly fine because some may do it in town centres, and it's considerate as long as it's done at low speeds and no one else sees it.


I'm not surprised it's Manu leading the charge of dribble, you had that replacement tin hat I ordered for you?


I'm not surprised of your continuous dribbling over my posts, you had that replacement nappy I ordered for you?

[EwynSaxo]

Have you not seen the tv advert with the little girl on about littering and not recycling?
She says it's our future your throwing away as in the next generation future

[Stissy]

FUCK YES. I won on the internet.

you're just not dicksound enough mate, sorry.

[Hazmanscoop]

I smoke rollies, so everything i throw away is biodegradable. I'm doing my bit.

But no, i wont be here to see that child having to deal with the future i have created.

So in all honesty, i dont care...

[Giraffe]

you're just not dicksound enough mate, sorry.

Haha at least you take it in good step. :y:

I smoke rollies, so everything i throw away is biodegradable. I'm doing my bit.

But no, i wont be here to see that child having to deal with the future i have created.

So in all honesty, i dont care...

Aren't you a teacher?

[EwynSaxo]

I smoke rollies, so everything i throw away is biodegradable. I'm doing my bit.

But no, i wont be here to see that child having to deal with the future i have created.

So in all honesty, i dont care...

Bhahaha that cracked me right up, yeah i'm a rollie smoker saves a bit of cash and you can still enjoy a good smoke

hate it when people say you'd save more if you didnt smoke . . . I'll sit there and pick at everything they enjoy doing saying the same thing

[Hazmanscoop]

Aren't you a teacher?

Yes i am, what of it?

Bhahaha that cracked me right up, yeah i'm a rollie smoker saves a bit of cash and you can still enjoy a good smoke

hate it when people say you'd save more if you didnt smoke . . . I'll sit there and pick at everything they enjoy doing saying the same thing


Yeah, switched to rollies a while back, actually have to say i now prefer them to normal boxed cigs :y:

Yeah, same old argument they always say. Just no.

[Giraffe]

Yes i am, what of it?

Not much, just seems like a shit attitude for a teacher to have, as well as a contradictory one.

[Hazmanscoop]

I'm just blowing off some steam...

dont take it all to heart.

[Giraffe]

I'm just blowing off some steam...

dont take it all to heart.

Doesn't really bother me, just an observation.

[matt_vtr_15a]

Should be banned, even worse is when people throw their dog ends out the window. Had one bounce up onto my windshield once :clapping:

When I was 16 some ignorant retard did this.

(I had a moped to commute to work)

Dog end hit me sock in the face dropped thru my helmet and onto my lap onto my work trousers where it burned a hole before I swiped it off of myself...

could of been circumcised via dog end!!

[blackie_2k5]

When I was 16 some ignorant retard did this.

(I had a moped to commute to work)

Dog end hit me sock in the face dropped thru my helmet and onto my lap onto my work trousers where it burned a hole before I swiped it off of myself...

could of been circumcised via dog end!!

If nothing else, this gives reason FOR throwing them out, if they hadn't of thrown it, I'd not have been able to laugh uncontrollably at your misfortune :A:

[McGuire86]

it wouldn't do any damage anyway mate, even if its lit, for how long its in contact with your car you'd get more damage to the bodywork every journey from stone chips.


I'm not talking about damage to the car. It was at night, the embers/sparks went all over the windshield, didn't expect it atall. Big distraction and could of caused an accident to someone who may of panicked.

Also if I had my window down it could of easily flew into my car, as Brettles said, one dogend went in someones window and landed on a child..

You have an ashtray, use the fucking thing.

And LOL at all the smokers defending it, if you wanna feed a disgusting expensive habit then go for it, just have abit of common courtesy.

[deano_123]

ill now rejoice in the fact that it pisses so many people off when i flick my dumpy out the window

[Jizanthapus]

Yeah, switched to rollies a while back, actually have to say i now prefer them to normal boxed cigs :y:
.

Yes! They are so much nicer (no horrid dry mouth or chemical taste, well not completely but miles better than tailor made cigs)

I don't get the biodegradable bit though, as its just a filter and paper just like a normal cig isn't it?

[Stissy]

I'm not talking about damage to the car. It was at night, the embers/sparks went all over the windshield, didn't expect it atall. Big distraction and could of caused an accident to someone who may of panicked.

Also if I had my window down it could of easily flew into my car, as Brettles said, one dogend went in someones window and landed on a child..

You have an ashtray, use the fucking thing.

And LOL at all the smokers defending it, if you wanna feed a disgusting expensive habit then go for it, just have abit of common courtesy.

i'm no smoker :hug:

[McGuire86]

I never said you were ?

[Hazmanscoop]

Yes! They are so much nicer (no horrid dry mouth or chemical taste, well not completely but miles better than tailor made cigs)

I don't get the biodegradable bit though, as its just a filter and paper just like a normal cig isn't it?

The paper and filter are made of stuff that degrades :) simple, same as normal cigs tbh ha

[brianS]

Don't smoke in the car, I do drip eliquid into my RBA while driving though. Fills the car with vanilla custard smells.

[Manu]

Had a mate once who dropped a butt, lodged itself in some girls neck behind him and burned a hole before she had a chance to remove it. The police had a word with him and he was fined for littering + causing harm without intent.

The paper and filter are made of stuff that degrades :) simple, same as normal cigs tbh ha


Ludicrous claim, and complete uneducated spread of misinformation. Filters are made with non-biodegradable fibers (cellulose-acetate) and discarded filters are full of toxic chemicals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697937/

Papers contain bleach and chlorine.

[Brettles1986]

Had a mate once who dropped a butt, lodged itself in some girls neck behind him and burned a hole before she had a chance to remove it. The police had a word with him and he was fined for littering + causing harm without intent.


As much as I am on your side of this argument, you seem to have no shortage of mates who all qualify as some sort of evidence for or against the topic of every thread here.

:detective:

[Gandi699]

Had a mate once who dropped a butt, lodged itself in some girls neck behind him and burned a hole before she had a chance to remove it. The police had a word with him and he was fined for littering + causing harm without intent.



So how exactly did those turn of events transpire? He'd have to have pulled over?

[Hazmanscoop]

Sorry, i should have put degradable...

Bio indicates that the use of "Living" organisms will break it down, which is not the case.

Cellulose Acetate is a plastic which WILL degrade over time, much like ALL plastics. The chemical conc. used within it will determine the length of degredation.

Btw, the way you slander people from the off and provide nothing but a single, more than inaccurate website is foolish...

Depends which papers you use, not all contain those.

[Manu]

So how exactly did those turn of events transpire? He'd have to have pulled over?

carried on his way without noticing while the passenger took the plate, popo had a chat with him later and it went to court. Apparently the girl did have a deep, 4th degree burn injury in the neck so was considered as serious.

[Manu]

Sorry, i should have put degradable...

Bio indicates that the use of "Living" organisms will break it down, which is not the case.

Cellulose Acetate is a plastic which WILL degrade over time, much like ALL plastics. The chemical conc. used within it will determine the length of degredation.

Depends which papers you use, not all contain those.

Yeah will degrade over time, that's why they seem to pile up in some areas. Takes between 18 months and 10 years to degrade depending on type of filter. Might as well just chuck out anything out of the windows as long as it breaks down.

Btw, the way you slander people from the off and provide nothing but a single, more than inaccurate website is foolish...

You may want to do a little research by yourself. Don't see why I should hand the internet back along with a complete thorough research to you, after you claim that filters are perfectly safe to toss anywhere. So much effort needed, and such a hassle sometimes to dispose of litter properly ain't it.

[Hazmanscoop]

Thats the problem with people on here, All or nothing nature, nothing in between...

Erm well as you probably chuck everything in the bin, same thing if we are using your logic. It all goes in a pile outside.

I never claimed they are safe to chuck anywhere? being biodegradable/ degradable doesnt mean its safe... Radioactive waste is degradable, doesnt mean its safe.

I dont need to do any research, perks of being a Chemist...

[James93]

Roll before setting off, spark up whilst stationary, if it goes out, wait til stationary again, or just not smoke when driving at all :)

[0rang3peel]

Had a mate once who dropped a butt, lodged itself in some girls neck behind him and burned a hole before she had a chance to remove it. The police had a word with him and he was fined for littering + causing harm without intent.


For someone who I assumed has no mates, you have an awful lot of mates who end up in bizarre situations.

I had a mate once who threw a fag end out of his window at high speeds on the m4, the wind took it and it landed in reactor number 3 (Chernobyl) obviously I don't need to tell you about the chaos that followed.

[Gandi699]

For someone who I assumed has no mates, you have an awful lot of mates who end up in bizarre situations.

I had a mate once who threw a fag end out of his window at high speeds on the m4, the wind took it and it landed in reactor number 3 (Chernobyl) obviously I don't need to tell you about the chaos that followed.

I think you mean reactor 4. I know cause my mate was there and got photos and caught a fish the size of a bus, swear to god it happened

[Giraffe]

I think you mean reactor 4. I know cause my mate was there and got photos and caught a fish the size of a bus, swear to god it happened

I concur, my mate... Who the fuck am I kidding, I don't even have made up mates.

[deano_123]

carried on his way without noticing while the passenger took the plate, popo had a chat with him later and it went to court. Apparently the girl did have a deep, 4th degree burn injury in the neck so was considered as serious.

get away man, fourth degree burns go through skin and muscle right down to the bone and are quite often fatal. Had this been a fourth degree burn on the neck I'd have expected her whole head to fall off

[Stissy]

Had a mate once who dropped a butt, lodged itself in some girls neck behind him and burned a hole before she had a chance to remove it. The police had a word with him and he was fined for littering + causing harm without intent.

a lot of 'apparently's to back it up too...

there's no where in the Offences against the Person Act of 1861 that states you can be prosecuted for "causing harm without intent".

Even if there was such a thing as "causing harm without intent" the punishment would not be a fine.

The police would never pull someone over for a report of throwing a cigarette. This is even more unlikely if the report coming from another car. Imagine being a police officer and getting a call saying "someone in the car in front has just dropped his cigarette out the window"

you would not go to court for dropping a cigarette.

you would not get a 4th degree burn if a cigarette thrown from a moving car landed on your neck. cigarettes are not white hot flames that instantly cause death if you touch them - its an ember, you can quite happily let it rest on your hand for a few seconds before it starts to burn. i've caught myself on the arm no end of times and never got anything more than a mark. if i stood a meter a way and threw a lit cigarette at you, the chances of you getting burnt are minimal.

i don't mean to accuse, but i your mate might be lying.

[Brettles1986]

i don't mean to accuse, but i your mate might be lying.

Or doesn't exist!

[0rang3peel]

Or doesn't exist!

This, exactly this.

[Stissy]

Or doesn't exist!

i don't mean to accuse, but your mate might be lying.*

[L33h]

liar liar necks on fire

[Manu]

there's no where in the Offences against the Person Act of 1861 that states you can be prosecuted for "causing harm without intent".


Correct, not in the UK.

Thats the problem with people on here, All or nothing nature, nothing in between...
Erm well as you probably chuck everything in the bin, same thing if we are using your logic. It all goes in a pile outside.
I never claimed they are safe to chuck anywhere? being biodegradable/ degradable doesnt mean its safe... Radioactive waste is degradable, doesnt mean its safe.
I dont need to do any research, perks of being a Chemist...

throwing whatever out of the windows, and any other "yeah but" bullshit excuse that comes along.

[Hazmanscoop]

No sense made, point is invalid.

[Stissy]

Correct, not in the UK.

there's nowhere in the Offences against the Person Act of 1861 that states you can be prosecuted for "causing harm without intent". **

i'm finding all my spelling mistakes today.

[Manu]

Correct, not in the UK. Look at the "intention" chapter. Happy to help with the spelling etc *There's *I'm

No sense made, point is invalid.

Clearly didn't register indeed, please carry on throwing your fags out of the window then.

[Brettles1986]

Correct, not in the UK. Look at the "intention" chapter. Happy to help with the spelling etc *There's *I'm.

That spelling would actually be grammar.

[EwynSaxo]

Manu your full of shit I got burnt with a 1 inch cigar till it went out and had only a minor burn so a cigarette making a 4th degree burn thats a complete load of rubbish

[jasonmayall]

All I can say is have a read through this Manu

http://www.anapolschwartz.com/practices/burn-injury/burn-degrees.asp

A 4th Degree burn is just below a 5th and 6th degree burn, Which you generally die from.
A 3rd degree burn is serious, usually caused from Acid or a real fire.
A 2nd degree burn is minor and causes blistering, At most this is what you would get from prolonged contact with a lit cigarette.

Manu, You're wrong...
Believe it or not, you're not:
http://www.gooduniverse.ca/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/deep-thought1.jpg

[Stissy]

Correct, not in the UK. Look at the "intention" chapter. Happy to help with the spelling etc *There's *I'm

you're misreading what i'm saying...

also, i dont find grammar that important on a saxo forum.

[Giraffe]

you're misreading what i'm saying...

also, i dont find grammar that important on a saxo forum.

Is it not dicksound enough to be important?
sorry man I couldn't resist.

[Stissy]

Is it not dicksound enough to be important?

it isn't mate.

[0rang3peel]

Oh dear, Manu and his awesome trail of made up ridiculous internet story's has been rumbled.

Quick elaborate on your story to make it sound real, maybe find a few random articles on the internet that will help the masses believe.

[Manu]

Oh dear, Manu and his awesome trail of made up ridiculous internet story's has been rumbled.


My story is has been rumbled? Coming from you, that's a compliment considering the effort you put through trolling every single post I make.
S-T-O-R-I-E-S. P-L-U-R-A-L. D-U-H. You can all carry on tossing your fag butts out of your windows to be honest, seems like way too much brain processing involved in using an ashtray. Or even being considerate and avoid littering.


Manu, You're wrong...
Believe it or not, you're not:
http://www.gooduniverse.ca/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/deep-thought1.jpg

I'm wrong, I'm not? Make your own mind dude. Ooookay, what is that? I suspect that you're trying to convey a message of some sort. Please make sure to choose a smaller picture next time.

A 3rd degree burn is serious, usually caused from Acid or a real fire.

No shit Sherlock, thanks for the heads up :y:

A 4th Degree burn is just below a 5th and 6th degree burn, Which you generally die from.

:clapping:

And obviously a law firm website is better at defining different burn injury types than, let's say a medical one. Thanks for the unneeded recap, in a thread that's about cigarettes out of the window.

you're misreading what i'm saying...

also, i dont find grammar that important on a saxo forum.

Considering that you made an effort with the spelling, I guess better being a half wit rather than a complete numpty. Though you have a point about the importance of it all, it is a saxo forum.

[Hazmanscoop]

Correct, not in the UK. Look at the "intention" chapter. Happy to help with the spelling etc *There's *I'm



Clearly didn't register indeed, please carry on throwing your fags out of the window then.

Something needs to make sense before it can register, thanks, i will :y:

Note: that is all i chuck out of the windows, all other rubbish is disposed of in a Manu friendly manner.

[Manu]

Mighty decent of you.


Note: that is all i chuck out of the windows,

Same thing as throwing a regular fag out of the window then, if you roll with filters. Not sure if it is a good excuse, looks like the exact same nasty habit to me. Anyway, silly me going after the saxperience smokers club and their many ways of justifying anything and everything. The "because others do it in town centres" and "I'm a chemist so my rollie butts are made of cotton" did crack me up though.

[Stissy]

Considering that you made an effort with the spelling, I guess better being a half wit rather than a complete numpty

i'm not sure if we're agreeing or arguing.

[Manu]

I was agreeing: it is typical saxperience. No wonder the place is slowing down considering the general display of intellect in general chat.

[Hazmanscoop]

Mighty decent of you.



Same thing as throwing a regular fag out of the window then, if you roll with filters. Not sure if it is a good excuse, looks like the exact same nasty habit to me. Anyway, silly me going after the saxperience smokers club and their many ways of justifying anything and everything. The "because others do it in town centres" and "I'm a chemist so my rollie butts are made of cotton" did crack me up though.

Manu, can you actually read?

Seems you just make up your own stories to suit your feelings. I never said that i did it because other people did, i just admitted to doing it. In no way did i mention town centres either.

Also the Chemist part, i didnt say they are made of cotton?!? if you read what i actually said, rather than get confused, then we'd be on the same page... Laughing at your own jokes is also often considered a mental disorder.

[Brettles1986]

Manu, can you actually read?

Seems you just make up your own stories to suit your feelings. I never said that i did it because other people did, i just admitted to doing it. In no way did i mention town centres either.

Also the Chemist part, i didnt say they are made of cotton?!? if you read what i actually said, rather than get confused, then we'd be on the same page... Laughing at your own jokes is also often considered a mental disorder.

Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[Manu]

Correct, others said about the "cotton" and mentioned town centres. That wasn't aimed personally at you but rather a same up of all the excuses I read in this thread. What you said is, "The paper and filter are made of stuff that degrades :) simple, same as normal cigs tbh ha"

Same nasty habit as normal cigs then. Takes years and years before it degrades.

[0rang3peel]

Manu, you don't need trolling you do an excellent job of trolling yourself.

Seriously, where do you get the majority of shit you post it's comedy gold.

fyi - I don't smoke thanks but if I ever had the pleasure of driving in front of you, make no mistake I would rummage under the seats for a fag end to skilfully propel into your air filter, which would no doubt give you a legitimate reason to post some outrageous bullshit on the internet.

[Giraffe]

Fuck the police!

[Brettles1986]

Fuck the police!

Stop spamming Dave.

[Giraffe]

Stop spamming Dave.

You're not the police but fuck you too!

[Manu]

Manu, you don't need trolling you do an excellent job of trolling yourself.

Seriously, where do you get the majority of shit you post it's comedy gold.

fyi - I don't smoke thanks but if I ever had the pleasure of driving in front of you, make no mistake I would rummage under the seats for a fag end to skilfully propel into your air filter, which would no doubt give you a legitimate reason to post some outrageous bullshit on the internet.

Oh my God, it's so outrageous isn't it. So you don't smoke but you can find fags under your seats, now that's comedy gold. What do you drive, an ashtray (actually sounds close enough).

[jasonmayall]

I'm wrong, I'm not? Make your own mind dude. Ooookay, what is that? I suspect that you're trying to convey a message of some sort. Please make sure to choose a smaller picture next time.

You're obviously not that well educated if you dont know what the picture is of - I'm sure if anyone here has seen hitchikers guide to the galaxy they would recognise the picture. FYI, its not too small... Get your eyes tested.
I never said you're not wrong, I plainly said you are wrong.

No shit Sherlock, thanks for the heads up :y:



:clapping:

And obviously a law firm website is better at defining different burn injury types than, let's say a medical one. Thanks for the unneeded recap, in a thread that's about cigarettes out of the window.



Considering that you made an effort with the spelling, I guess better being a half wit rather than a complete numpty. Though you have a point about the importance of it all, it is a saxo forum.

And it shouldn't matter where the information come from, Its all the same. I'm not spending all my time looking for the most 'believable' website when any other with the same information will suffice.

The point of the website wasn't in response to chucking a fag out the window, It was a response to your believable story about someone getting 4th degree burns from a fag nub.

Anyhow, As Brett has said, I'm arguing with an idiot... I'm out before you bring me down to your level.

[Manu]

And it shouldn't matter where the information come from, Its all the same. I'm not spending all my time looking for the most 'believable' website when any other with the same information will suffice.

The point of the website wasn't in response to chucking a fag out the window, It was a response to your believable story about someone getting 4th degree burns from a fag nub.

Anyhow, As Brett has said, I'm arguing with an idiot... I'm out before you bring me down to your level.


All the information is all the same on the internet, so you can pick it from anywhere and it will be accurate. Don't try my level because you're on one of your own, very high up indeed.

You're obviously not that well educated if you dont know what the picture is of - I'm sure if anyone here has seen hitchikers guide to the galaxy they would recognise the picture. FYI, its not too small... Get your eyes tested.
I never said you're not wrong, I plainly said you are wrong.

Good good, now that's been cleared. And your stamp sized picture proved the point of me being wrong. Obviously, not recognising a film is a clear sign of being illiterate as anyone with a little bit of culture would have known instantly, so thanks for clearing that too.

Get your eyes tested.

Are those two pixels like, people? On the bottom left.

[Brettles1986]

You're not the police but fuck you too!

I can take on the e-persona of one if it does things for you.

n.b. I may be a little too slim for you ;)

[0rang3peel]

Oh my God, it's so outrageous isn't it. So you don't smoke but you can find fags under your seats, now that's comedy gold. What do you drive, an ashtray (actually sounds close enough).

My little story was fictional, did you not pick up on that?

Why does what I drive have any relevance to this thread?

Oh a joke about a vauxhall astra sounding like an ashtray, very witty and biting.

[Hazmanscoop]

Correct, others said about the "cotton" and mentioned town centres. That wasn't aimed personally at you but rather a same up of all the excuses I read in this thread. What you said is, "The paper and filter are made of stuff that degrades :) simple, same as normal cigs tbh ha"

Same nasty habit as normal cigs then. Takes years and years before it degrades.

Same as the years and years it takes you to degrade...

Give me a fag butt in the corner any day.

[Stissy]

this is hilarious.

[Manu]

It is indeed, I actually had a chuckle.

My little story was fictional, did you not pick up on that?

Oh dear, my bad. Thanks for the heads up.


Why does what I drive have any relevance to this thread?

Exactly.

Oh a joke about a vauxhall astra sounding like an ashtray, very witty and biting.

Do you drive one by any chance :)


Same as the years and years it takes you to degrade...

Give me a fag butt in the corner any day.

That might take a while then. Use your ashtray dude.