Matt's Evo VI - 380Bhp/415 lb/ft [Archive] - Saxperience

matt_vtr_15a

21st October 2013, 08:32

After purchasing this over the weekend, thought I best set up a progress thread to keep a log of any changes.

It drives like an absolute dream, drove 200miles home with not one issue, it makes me smile everytime I hit boost :P

Current Modifications Are:

Engine:

Apexi Power FC ECU with commander
Walbro Uprated Fuel Pump
RC 750cc Injectors
Uprated Turbo Actuator
Apexi AVCR Boost Controller
Apexi Induction Kit
Full 3 Inch Exhaust
De-Cat
Twin Plate Clutch
Re-mapped to 1.4 bar Achieving 347bhp (with above mods)

Suspension, Wheels & Brakes

Tommi 3 Point upper Front Strut Brace
Tommi Mak 17 Wheels
4 x Toyo Proxy T1R Tyres
Goodridge Braided Brake Hoses
BC Coilovers with Full Fast Road Geo Set up
Ross Sports Discs (All around)
Carbotech XP8 Pads (All around)
Full Superpro Bushkit

Misc
Ralliart Mudflaps
Original Wind Deflectors (Now Fitted)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh25/GTTJames/John%20evo%206%20silver/DSCF1027_zps4a2a47cd.jpg (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/GTTJames/media/John%20evo%206%20silver/DSCF1027_zps4a2a47cd.jpg.html)

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matt_vtr_15a

21st October 2013, 08:43

Will get some more pictures up soon but they really don't do it justice, maybe even videos. Few little tweaks really I want to do, soo far I have in mind the following:

Clear Front Indicators
New Headunit (Pioneer Double Din)
Grooved & Drilled Brake Discs
Tegiwa Harness Bar
Harnesses (Need to research safest type etc.)
Tidying up the engine bay

Performance wise it runs like a dream and i'm more than happy with it so not doing anything other than keeping it maintained with lots of fresh oil, good tyres, brake pads and general maintenance of the car.

It's my daily although I don't cover a great deal of miles I want it to be a car that can be used day to day.

It's an absolute minter and I want to keep it that way :y:

m4tt274

21st October 2013, 09:06

These are great! Back when i was younger my dad had one, I loved it. Seem to remember it rotted out though :(

Hopefully this on is as good underneath as it is on top!

matt_vtr_15a

21st October 2013, 09:12

These are great! Back when i was younger my dad had one, I loved it. Seem to remember it rotted out though :(

Hopefully this on is as good underneath as it is on top!

Yep viewed several with issues underneath.

This was imported in 2006 and has only had one owner since import who I bought it off.

It's been garaged since he bought it and only covered 5000 miles on uk roads, it's stunning underneath.

He has 2 other evo's a tommi mak, and an evo 5 track car as well as a bmw for his daily.

Proper genuine guy who was really sad to see it go but it barely got used and he needs funds for his 5 track toy.

It's only on 57000 miles now :y: , it went for an MOT friday and sailed thru with 1 advisory which was to top up the brake fluid which was done straight after.

leeroybrown

21st October 2013, 09:22

LOL at the cassette player hahahahah.

Looks smart Matt, needs rid of the white wheels :-)

Defo needs de-tango'd

Has it had the lash adjusters done? Seems to be a common fault, generally they tap there tits out.

But I do like a decent 6, not a Evo fan personally more Impreza, but if I had to pick a model it would defo be a 6 :-)

matt_vtr_15a

21st October 2013, 09:30

LOL at the cassette player hahahahah.

Looks smart Matt, needs rid of the whites wheels :-)

Defo needs de-tango'd

Has it had the lash adjusters done? Seems to be a common fault, generally tap

Without digging thru the folder of reciepts i'm not sure about the lash adjusters, I can ask him though but engine runs sweet as a nut at the moment.

Casette player is pretty quick fix but for now it's one less reason for someone to smash a window to steal a headunit and it's retro as fuark.

I'm in two minds on the wheels, I was unsure before i viewed it but in the flesh it looks well. Can get them powdercoated for a good price anyway if i decide to. But may as well wait till after winter now.

Already bought some clear indicators and sidelights, just waiting on delivery :y:

Giraffe

21st October 2013, 09:31

Nice family saloon mate.

More pics of interior are needed!

leeroybrown

21st October 2013, 09:34

Without digging thru the folder of reciepts i'm not sure about the lash adjusters, I can ask him though but engine runs sweet as a nut at the moment.

Casette player is pretty quick fix but for now it's one less reason for someone to smash a window to steal a headunit and it's retro as fuark.

I'm in two minds on the wheels, I was unsure before i viewed it but in the flesh it looks well. Can get them powdercoated for a good price anyway if i decide to. But may as well wait till after winter now.

Already bought some clear indicators and sidelights, just waiting on delivery :y:

Lovely jubbly!

Do you have a decent evo specialist nearby for servicing etc?

matt_vtr_15a

21st October 2013, 09:59

Lovely jubbly!

Do you have a decent evo specialist nearby for servicing etc?

Yes MG Auto Motorsports.

They do servicing, parts, remapping, aftermarket parts etc and are 10 miles from me, they are a platinum trader on MLR so get a little discount to and do good deals on undersealing, servicing and general maintenance :y:

Haha cheers Dave, I'll post some up... the interior is pristine.. one sec ill add a couple more pics :y:

matt_vtr_15a

21st October 2013, 10:06

Few more including engine, interior and underside.

There are no marks whatsoever on the seats, it's just a suede material so looks like it has in the pics :y:

The heatproof material was tidied up and so were the window washer pipes, still want to tidy the engine bay up a little though and get it looking real fresh.

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Giraffe

21st October 2013, 10:39

Nice. Always find the interiors on these and Scoobys fascinating. Looks so normal and bland, yet they are so quick. Just doesn't add up in my head, I expect something space age! Still, not nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be. Liking that gear knob.

smiith

21st October 2013, 10:52

Looks awesome.. Needs a different gear knob though!

Mike-

21st October 2013, 16:24

Dont suppose you drove around the Bala/Snowdon area on sunday did you? Saw a silver Evo and winded my window down waiting for it to hit boost.

matt_vtr_15a

21st October 2013, 16:54

Dont suppose you drove around the Bala/Snowdon area on sunday did you? Saw a silver Evo and winded my window down waiting for it to hit boost.

No not me mate, drove from west sussex to nottingham sunday.

It gets some looks when it hits boost, i think it may even suck up small animals and children. Followed by a nice long flutter/chatter... not a sonicboom dumpvalve tshhhhhh (can't stand that sound)

josh11490

21st October 2013, 19:44

Looks awesome, used to prefer evo 7/8/9s but seen a few of these popping up on various forums lately and they are really growing on me.

Looks real clean.

martin1985

21st October 2013, 19:55

i like the evo 7 & 8s but this does look good!

mhdurrani

21st October 2013, 19:59

Dammm looks lush that I personnely love the Evo 4 and Evo 6 reims blue

Brettles1986

22nd October 2013, 07:55

Looks nice and I agree with both Smiith and Dave, the gear knob needs replacing and the interiors are really underwhelming.

I do like elements of these but I also love the older evo 3.

Very fortunate to have one of these mate, I'm in the wrong job clearly.

wassy78

22nd October 2013, 08:23

mmmmmmm sweeeeeeeeeeeeet me want :)

matt_vtr_15a

22nd October 2013, 14:26

cheers fellas...

Soo updates....

The gearnob before I went to view the car was something I had in mind to change immediately.

I must admit I quite like the feel of the gearnob that's currently on it so wont chuck it away just yet, but do fancy something a bit more subtle so have ordered one of these off an MLR member for £15 delivered. Bargain.

Ralliart GearNOB

http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y365/F11SYS/20131022_123417.jpg

As one of my tasks is to tidy up the engine bay a little I have also ordered one of these Carbon Cooling Panels from Tegiwa Imports along with 2 x resovoir socks just to make a start on the engine bay. Not messing around with silicone hoses etc. just yet.

Carbon Cooling Panel

http://www.tegiwaimports.com/eshop/store/catalog/456cfcp.jpg

Resevoir Socks (Brake & Clutch)

http://www.tegiwaimports.com/eshop/store/catalog/dressup/TI_BANDS.jpg
http://www.tegiwaimports.com/eshop/store/catalog/sock1.jpg

Finally as part of my de-tango mission I have ordered 2 x smoked sidelights off ebay to replace the orange ones. I am also awaiting the arrival of 2 front clear indicators to replace the orange ones.

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/mOZRhl6uiOfONgZnrHlcPPA/140.jpg

matt_vtr_15a

22nd October 2013, 14:40

The head-unit will also be replaced however as of yet I have barely listened to any music as I just like to hear the sound the car makes.

But I'm deciding on either a double din pioneer which are fairly cheap at around £120 imo (however non removable face concerns me, as don't want people breaking into the car for it)

http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/productimages/zoom/FHX700BT.jpg

OR

Second option is to go single din (as I already have a decent single din cd player) and then use the lower din for 3 x gauges which are mounted within a single din plate....

http://image.motortrend.com/f/8506852+w750/112_0410_evowrx_10z+2005_mitsubishi_lancer_evoluti on_mr+gauges_view.jpg

I don't have any boost gauges except what is displayed on the commander and avcr and don't want any great big fuckers sticking on the pillar..

I just think these look pretty nice and subtle and allow me to use a single din cd player...

Martijn_M

23rd October 2013, 14:07

Option 2 ofcourse. ICE is for chavs.

Prickle

23rd October 2013, 14:11

ICE is for chavs.

lol....

JoeHindle

23rd October 2013, 14:17

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 14:54

You can buy covers for double DIN HU's mate- my dad has one for his :y:

I wouldn't class that as chavy.. Chavy is a shit flip out DVD player, a stupid subwoofer and illuminating amps..

I noticed these on ebay last night actually, quite a good idea to deter theft as it looks like a manufacturer unit.

The pioneer headunit is ideal as I do listen to a lot of music on drives and can connect my spotify to it via bluetooth and then also answer calls through the headunit as well.

Having said that i'm leaning towards the gauges depending on how much wiring is needed as i don't want it to be a dash out job.

JoeHindle

23rd October 2013, 15:36

I noticed these on ebay last night actually, quite a good idea to deter theft as it looks like a manufacturer unit.

The pioneer headunit is ideal as I do listen to a lot of music on drives and can connect my spotify to it via bluetooth and then also answer calls through the headunit as well.

Having said that i'm leaning towards the gauges depending on how much wiring is needed as i don't want it to be a dash out job.

Yeah they are good, his is cream the same colour as his dash, it's fairly nifty.

If I had the option to fit a double din in my car, I'd have one lol. Sounds a bit strange but I like the look of them :y:

If the gauges aren't hard to fit- get them fitted :P

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 15:37

JoeHindle

23rd October 2013, 15:39

Slight mishap today :n:

http://i.imgur.com/4jI7FXF.jpg?1

HOLY FUCKBALLS! Please tell me that's just a pic off Google!!

Prickle

23rd October 2013, 15:40

Holy shit

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 15:42

HOLY FUCKBALLS! Please tell me that's just a pic off Google!!

Nope that's mine mate.....

Genuinely can't believe it, mechancially it's fine minus a bent oil cooler and the suspension seems ok.

Had it up on the ramp and just confirmed the inner wing and chassis are ok, so ordering parts to get her fixed up now and booked into the body shop.

Excess on my insurance is £1250 and I think i'll be looking around £1k in total to fix her up so going to just do the work out of my pocket.

Fortunately nobody else involved.

JoeHindle

23rd October 2013, 15:43

Nope that's mine mate.....

Genuinely can't believe it, mechancially it's fine minus a bent oil cooler and the suspension seems ok.

Had it up on the ramp and just confirmed the inner wing and chassis are ok, so ordering parts to get her fixed up now and booked into the body shop.

Excess on my insurance is £1250 and I think i'll be looking around £1k in total to fix her up so going to just do the work out of my pocket.

Fortunately nobody else involved.

The fuck did you do?!

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 15:45

The fuck did you do?!

I edited the initial post mate :n:

Ali123

23rd October 2013, 15:46

Holy shit !
Gutting to say the least, atleast you didn't kill it mate
Atleast you're alright and car is almost okay ish !

JoeHindle

23rd October 2013, 15:47

I edited the initial post mate :n:

Fuck man :n: I'll be honest, I've seen worse, you've got off lightly. As Ali said- atleast you haven't totaled it!

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 15:48

Holy shit !
Gutting to say the least, atleast you didn't kill it mate
Atleast you're alright and car is almost okay ish !

Yeah wanted to cry mate, fortunately my old man was behind me and saw it happen himself.

Was all slow motion, the back end stepped out, just literally lit the wheels up, i corrected the skid which was a massive mistake as the front of the car straightened up and then i think the ayc straightened it up which sent the front end out then which put the front wheel up a kerb and clipped the armco...

Inexperience on my part but gutting nevertheless especially as i was following the flow of traffic, didn't even plant my foot or anything but wasn't being as cautious as i should have been

D4MJT

23rd October 2013, 15:53

That's a nightmare, and probably some sort of record of ownership > bent lol.

That said, fair play for holding your hands up and not going with the old "diesel on the road" or something. It's all experience isn't it, thankfully it seems it's not going to be too bad. Hope you get it fixed up quick mate!

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 15:58

just gutting as there was literally not one mark on it, since import it's covered 5000 summer miles and been garaged.

I've owned it 4 days and trashed it, going to get her fixed up properly and treat it with the respect it deserves.

Going to buy another car now as well to run on wet winter days and just use this otherwise on nice days.

Not worth the risk or heartache as right now i couldn't feel any lower about it.

All over a piece of metal.

Sophia_Bush

23rd October 2013, 16:00

gutted for you especially with that excess!! jesus christ!!

as you mech sound thats main thing, you on mlr? should be able to sort parts from there

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 16:03

gutted for you especially with that excess!! jesus christ!!

as you mech sound thats main thing, you on mlr? should be able to sort parts from there

Yep on mlr and sourced everything except the front bumper so far :y:

Giraffe

23rd October 2013, 16:22

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 16:45

Matt, try not to dwell on it, especially as you're going to bed tonight.

Dunno if it's ever happened to anyone else, but when I stacked my E30, which involved me accelerating a bit too hard to get over a roundabout (saw a car coming round it at the last second and it was pouring down, didn't want to try and brake and end up in the middle of the roundabout, so decided to accelerate a bit more, go figure) I ended up fighting to correct it then it just let go, I bounced off one kerb, spun me round and across the road straight up the opposite kerb. Thankfully nobody was involved but me and I was ok, but it hit me that night when I had time to think and was by myself that it could have been a HELL of a lot worse, think shock set in and it didn't feel good. Just be wary of it. Glad you're ok though buddy.

Cheers mate appreciate it, awful feeling especially as I wasn't driving like a dick so it feels unjust. Just a misjudgement on my part, but really thankful i didn't clip anyone else etc.

Can't get my head round it at the moment so just doing as much as i can by sourcing parts and getting it booked in for repair. The missus is taking me nandos as well tonight to keep my mind off it as i'm constantly torturing myself with 'could've, should've, would've'.

My dad was gutted for me, kinda glad he was behind me at the time so at least he knows i wasn't being a dick and will help with the tracking and geo set-up etc. which will keep costs down a little bit.

Aly

23rd October 2013, 16:57

Unlucky
At least you weren't injured :y:

hard_corejoeboy

23rd October 2013, 17:41

How the hell did you crash a 4 wheel drive with AYC?
Sucks man. I was only just looking at this thread the other day and hoping for good progress not bad!

Can any man maths be applied to the repairs? ;D

Ali123

23rd October 2013, 17:51

was gonna say lucky about your dad being there too'!
If this happened to me and even if I was driving at 10mph and somehow crashed my car they wouldn't believe me what so ever, they would think ow as just driving like a dick :(

But it is surprisingly easy for it just to happen tbh :(
No where near as bad as yours like but just the other day I was driving up in the moors, was pissing it down and I was driving steady, national speed limit road and I was doing 30 as it was absolutely pissing it down and pitch black,
Then just out of no where back end decided it would want to fuck off else where! Luckily didn't hit the stone walls either side of me but it did shit me up !

Anyways best of luck dude

Jay_

23rd October 2013, 17:58

How the hell did you crash a 4 wheel drive with AYC?
Sucks man. I was only just looking at this thread the other day and hoping for good progress not bad!

I was waiting for sax-ps resident "racer" to wade in and say something. :homme:

Bad luck matt, get it sorted, back on the road for summer :y:

Aly

23rd October 2013, 18:15

I was waiting for sax-ps resident "racer" to wade in and say something. :homme:

Bad luck matt, get it sorted, back on the road for summer :y:

It's actually very easy, a mate of mine sold his because he almost crashed his, he had a Scooby then bought one of these had a very twitchy moment in the wet and decided to sell.
Wasn't aimed at you Jay I just don't want to quote from him ;)

LSOfreak

23rd October 2013, 18:29

jesus christ

i feel so gutted for you pal :sad:

as said, atleast it wasnt worse. A few parts later an no one would notice :)

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 18:45

I have since found out that the worse thing to do is try and correct the vehicle with ayc... its weird as I lost the back end but it over corrected and at impact it was the front not rear out of control. Better off just keeping the foot planted apparently but I shit out..

As said lack of experience, my own fault. I don't claim to be tge worlds best driver but I'm very shocked I lost control...

Live and learn though, get it fixed within the next week or so and be much more cautious especially in poor conditions.

Better to learn from this than completely totalling it!

Viper

23rd October 2013, 18:46

Gutted for you Matt!!

Hope you get it fixed up nice and quick.

rey

23rd October 2013, 18:54

Sucks the big one dude!

My mate wrote his 6 off a couple of months ago doing pretty much the same thing as you, and he may have some spares kicking around if you need anything :y:

Yates

23rd October 2013, 19:02

ah unlucky pal, not too bad tho, just think you went from an underpowered slow clio to a 4 wheel drive monster, takes time to adapt. but isnt much damage, could of been worse so head up

Sophia_Bush

23rd October 2013, 19:03

get it fixed and maybe in new year go on one of those driving training days with an instructor? At least then you will get to enjoy the car more find out more of its limits etc, pretty much what I'm going to do with the mr2 as I'm just not used to driving it properly pretty much why I got another fwd tin to tide me over for winter.

Nik_L

23rd October 2013, 19:06

No way. Not good news.

Goes to show though, Evo's aren't the safe bet people think they are, i.e not a drivers car due to 4wd etc. Have also heard about not trying to correct these when they let go, but its natural instinct if you aren't used to it.

My old Pulsar tried to kill me once also. Come off a wet roundabout onto a road with a slight bend, wheels nearly straight, foot down, on boost and bam, all 4 wheels lit up. Fukin shit maself.

Nik_L

23rd October 2013, 19:11

Also, if it has the history and previous care you say, i would remove the photo's etc.

Granted its not been written off, and the damage isn't too bad. But any potential buyer who sees those pics will be put off if you ask top money when you sell it.

Badgersport

23rd October 2013, 19:20

Thats a real shame ! But like you said live and learn.

I used to work for Mitsubishi and had the pleasure of driving many evos of varying power. The ayc is a very complex system, yet at first like you i used to try and back out instead of staying planted.

Hopefully you can get it all fixed up soon and back to as it was

Ste

holdawayt

23rd October 2013, 19:28

You'll be treating it like a small phillipino girl made from tracing paper next time it's out in the wet lol. First week of mx5 ownership I took a corner in the wet and lost the back end. It absolutely ruined my confidence with rwd in the rain.

Chin up and carry on buddy. Loads of us have been there.

MuZiZZle

23rd October 2013, 19:31

Slight mishap today :n:

On a slight bend with slight lock doing about 20mph and picking up speed as it was a national speed limit... hit boost and the back end just completely went.

Lack of experience on my part, but my god I'm gutted...

http://i.imgur.com/4jI7FXF.jpg?1

I did this to my legacy about 3 days after getting it dude, fix it, get better tyres, crack on!

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 19:43

I did this to my legacy about 3 days after getting it dude, fix it, get better tyres, crack on!

Yes getting some different tyres on... got toyo proxes on, my cousin has them on his and says there great in the dry but not ideal over winter.

Was booked in for 2 x 8 hour sessions of tattoing... cancelled that and the guy said he will even give me my deposit back as he can get the slots filled. That alone gets me pretty much the money I need to make the repairs and i had a backup savings pot for maintenance and upgrades but never expected repairs of this nature.

Will get it repaired, sprayed, laser tracked and full geo set up along with 4 new tyres more suited to winter conditions and be much more careful.

Should start with the repairs on saturday so will keep the thread updated.

Cheers for the supportive comments! Already had enough of the missus nagging me to sell it..

Viper

23rd October 2013, 20:12

Nagging you to sell it? I hope you've told her to fuck off!

hard_corejoeboy

23rd October 2013, 20:13

I was actually being nice. Its easy for me to judge as I've driven more miles than most people here will even think about in a lifetime. I've been lucky to never crash. I agree with the comment about a bit of tuition ir maybe some private land or even trackday to get to grips with a big upgrade that is an evo.

Could happen to anyone.

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 20:27

Nagging you to sell it? I hope you've told her to fuck off!

Indeed I have ha.. realised how much of a nag she is in the last few hours... wouldn't mind but it's the 'told you so' kind of attitude.

I know how to drive I'm not a complete retard however I make mistakes as I'm human this being one of them.

If I was driving hard it probably wouldn't of happened, It genuinely took me by suprise as I was driving fairly steady, caught me off guard and I didn't react well enough for the scenario.

Yates

23rd October 2013, 20:34

its not tyres its just you dont have the experience with it. thats all. mine had toyo proxies and was awesome in the wet

Viper

23rd October 2013, 20:40

its not tyres its just you dont have the experience with it. thats all. mine had toyo proxies and was awesome in the wet

Yeah, the problem with yours was the brakes ;)

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 21:08

its not tyres its just you dont have the experience with it. thats all. mine had toyo proxies and was awesome in the wet

Not blaming the tyres at all.. admit it is my fault and inexperience with the car.

Saying thatbit seemed to put the power down well on the straights and never spun... but was gonna change them and save them for spring/summer and bang on some winter suited tyres..

Yates

23rd October 2013, 21:30

nah not saying you are saying its the tyres mate, i was just saying the tyres are good. like you say not enough experience, just paying out a lot on tyres that dont need changing waste of cash! i drove like a grandad for a few months till i got used to car

LSOfreak

23rd October 2013, 21:43

Yates

23rd October 2013, 21:46

what do you do?

was in army lol

i drive 700 miles a week and have done for near on 7 years

if everyone on here thinks about driving one million miles then its more than joe, making his statement wrong

rey

23rd October 2013, 21:48

Doesn't hardpenis-joe drive lorries now?

Yates

23rd October 2013, 21:49

i heard he rides blokes

Mochachino

23rd October 2013, 21:55

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 22:37

Wounded for you mate! I know how it feels, I had a van go into the side of my much loved euroR and totaled the side of it as you may have seen the pics. Was so gutting as the car was in such good condition, and so embarrassing with the old owner seeing what had happened even though it wernt my fault. So same boat in a way!

Hopefully you dont have to wait months like I did for the parts to be sourced from all over the world.

I would imagine the light will be the most expensive and the other parts pretty minor.

Ouch didn't know that mate gutted to hear for you!!

I have manage to source a headlight off an mlr member for £50 already had 2 clear front indicators as de tangoing which cost me £30

O/s front wing in sat silver £150
Bumper £250
Oil cooler £40
O/s front fog £60
Front archliner may be salvageable
Rear bumper scuffed so needs respray
Front o/s wheel repair £100 (worse case or maybe new alloy)

Mochachino

23rd October 2013, 22:48

Ouch didn't know that mate gutted to hear for you!!

I have manage to source a headlight off an mlr member for £50 already had 2 clear front indicators as de tangoing which cost me £30

O/s front wing in sat silver £150
Bumper £250
Oil cooler £40
O/s front fog £60
Front archliner may be salvageable
Rear bumper scuffed so needs respray
Front o/s wheel repair £100 (worse case or maybe new alloy)

Yehh lol, it happened back in March and ive only just got the settlement check from insurance! The clown that was parked on the roundabout that drove into me confessed immediately that he was to blame so no worries there.

I paid a little over £2000 out my own pocket to fix up the damage which was:

New N/S Wing
New N/S Door
New N/S Skirt
New N/S Wind Mirror which was near enough £300 on its own :( then all the bits of trim etc, it came to £1400 for parts from Honda and they took months to be sourced from all over the world mainly Japan, as its a JDM only model. then got them all sprayed up and fitted.

Sounds like you are making an easy job of fixing yours up! The joys of being able to get parts in the UK for it! Not as bad as it sounds now!

matt_vtr_15a

23rd October 2013, 22:59

Yehh lol, it happened back in March and ive only just got the settlement check from insurance! The clown that was parked on the roundabout that drove into me confessed immediately that he was to blame so no worries there.

I paid a little over £2000 out my own pocket to fix up the damage which was:

New N/S Wing
New N/S Door
New N/S Skirt
New N/S Wind Mirror which was near enough £300 on its own :( then all the bits of trim etc, it came to £1400 for parts from Honda and they took months to be sourced from all over the world mainly Japan, as its a JDM only model. then got them all sprayed up and fitted.

Sounds like you are making an easy job of fixing yours up! The joys of being able to get parts in the UK for it! Not as bad as it sounds now!

You have made me feel better.. trader thru mlr does next day delivery also... I can get an aftermarket pair of wings used in time atrack for £205 for the pair.

Might upgrade certain parts to make the whole thing work in my favour. Glad your sorted now mate!

Mochachino

23rd October 2013, 23:03

You have made me feel better.. trader thru mlr does next day delivery also... I can get an aftermarket pair of wings used in time atrack for £205 for the pair.

Might upgrade certain parts to make the whole thing work in my favour. Glad your sorted now mate!

Definitely mate, if anything breaks or needs replacing I always see what upgrades are available! May aswell while you are at it!

MJ05LLY

24th October 2013, 06:47

Gutted for you pal!

No worse feeling really regardless of how long you had it when it's your pride and joy!
That excess is madness though, but I guess that it's there for situations like this.

Like you said though, get a lil run around and leave this as a weekend toy if you can afford it!

matt_vtr_15a

24th October 2013, 10:56

Been pricing stuff up today and lining parts up.

Decided to go with an original replacement in sat silver for the front wing.

Getting a tommi mak front bumper which will require spraying however omits the front foglights so saves me buying replacement fog or fog caps and ibprefer this look on the front.

Going to get the rear bumper resprayed as well as it has several scuffs from the accident but not damaged other than paint.

Going to upgrade the oil cooler, a motec has come up on mlr so tempted to upgrade to this or similar instead of replacing with an original.

Front wheel repaired and resprayed.

Had a quote from the best bodyshop in my area to respray front and rear bumpers and repair my alloy and got a price of £600 does this seem about right?

Theres no stone chips or marks on any other panels so want the car as she was really.

wassy78

24th October 2013, 11:38

omg least your ok .....and your bollocks are still ok to man up like some people wouldn't bet your dad was shocked to just watching and nothing he could of done . as said easy fix ive had a few things for few days and fucked it up one that always sticks in my head when I was a kid wanted a radio control car but mum was on her own so asking her for a 200+ toy but I asked ... went to model shop she agreed to do a Christmas saving she wanted the shop to build it as with it being my first prop radio control car total was 270 all in I was so happy . Christmas day came I was buzzing made ramps in the garden the lot that day there was a shop up from my street that never closed . my mum wanted something I couldn't wait to take the car out more so I did ... as im going up the road a car as going by and fuck knows why my new toy lol just fucked off in middle of the road and the driver ran over it ....was gutted to tell my mum as she try so hard to get me one after Christmas I used all my money to get it fixed .. and bought a better crystal for the controller to stop interference ...sorry long story but everyone was ok and life goes on just glad your ok :)

Yates

24th October 2013, 13:42

That 600 seems a ridiculous price mate. I paid 120 for a front bumper, also paid 270 for 18" wheels all powder coated. Id ask them to break down the quote so you know what's been quoted for each bit.

Mochachino

24th October 2013, 21:59

Not sure whats up with your alloy to judge whether thats a good price or not.

Take the bumpers to them off of the car to make it easier and cheaper.

I paid £400 for a door and wing, both supplied off of the car, so no masking etc and also for my rear existing door to be blended in. My paint is a pearl paint so cost a bit more to do.

Ive been quoted £120 for the front bumper and £140 for my rear bumper including some filling done on the rear.

matt_vtr_15a

24th October 2013, 22:55

Got kind of lucky.. a trader knocks up their own front bumpers that are of high quality and used by a few mlr members.

http://www.evoowners.co.uk/f28/epp-carbon-kevlar-fiberglass-reinforced-front-13670.html#axzz2ig97etRs

They also have front wing in my colour and good condition with no marks

They will make the bumper and spray it in my colour within 2-3 days and they have headlights and other parts I need for £650 delivered.

This saves me a lot of time with getting the car in a state that it can be put on the road maybe even next weekend fingers crossed.

Going to put the spare wheel on saturday and get the wheel refurbed and then I can sort the scuff on the back bumper out once my car is on the road as that is merely cosmetic and I have had a quote from the local bodyshop of £120 to sort that out and £50-£75 for the wheel repair and respray

Will then have geo setup and tracking done etc. And get the car in the following weekend for the rear bumper respray...

Fingers crossed.

matt_vtr_15a

28th October 2013, 17:14

Been on the ramp this weekend stripping her down ready for the replacement parts, the bumper could of almost been saved however rather keep her pristine and get a new sprayed one on.

No inner wing damage whatsoever which is such a relief, all the damage around the headlight is replaced by the outer wing... phewww.

Also found one of the coilovers was damaged however apexi allow you to order replacement parts so a new damper and £101.50 later the suspension is spot on once again. Just need to get it laser tracked and geo set up now.

Awaiting parts which are being put on as and when they arrive, total cost is looking around £1 - 1.2k in parts and respray.. majority of labour is free thank god (my insurance excess is £1200, so just thankful nobody else was involved)

Depending on parts arriving on time etc. could have her back and back how she was by the weekend fingers crossed.

This was the last glimpse I had of her shortly before being towed away to be repaired by the old man, can't wait to get her back in tip top condition.

Prickle

28th October 2013, 17:17

Big shame but it happens. At least it hasnt damaged the inner wing etc.

Ali123

28th October 2013, 18:31

looks so evil with that intercooler! (despite the damage)

oooooft! <3

matt_vtr_15a

29th October 2013, 14:11

looks so evil with that intercooler! (despite the damage)

oooooft! <3

It has no bumper on at the minute, wish i could drive it around like that, great big intercooler and oil cooler staring back at ya.

Wing & headlight are now on and lined up fine, rear bumper has been sprayed as it had a light scuff and refitted.

Front Bumper, splitter and indicator should arrive thursday and will be resprayed and put on the car.

My dad has a friend that owns a bodyshop and managed to get the rear bumper and front bumper when it arrives all sprayed up for £200 which is much better than the £600 quote i received.

He's a good sprayer and uses high quality paint, glad that my dad's in the trade at times like this.

Looking more likely to be on the road for the weekend.

Struggling to find a foglight, even ones with broken brackets are around £80 so I'm going to remove the passenger side foglight and sell it which will give me £80-100

I am then going to buy a single foglight cover and a carbon air feed trumpet (£85 delivered) which will then make the front look more like this which all in all will cost me the same as finding a drivers side fog replacement.

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee498/Carbongoodies/Evo6carbonintake_1.jpg

Just trying to make nigly things work in my favour, I can always keep an eye out for a pair of fogs for the future and keep them handy.

Oli-VTR

29th October 2013, 16:27

glad its getting put back so quickly! which bodyshop you taken it to?

matt_vtr_15a

29th October 2013, 16:34

glad its getting put back so quickly! which bodyshop you taken it to?

It's at my dads garage as the parts are direct replacement and he has been sorting out the suspension and re-setting up my coil overs as well as he can ready for full geo set-up.

I'm not entirely sure who is doing the spraying and any final tweaks as it is a personal friend of my dads however I believe the guy is based near my dads garage around alfreton area of Nottingham

I live about 10miles away from my parents so havn't been able to get to see the car since saturday, just updating via my dad :y:

He keeps letting me know when he recieves parts i have ordered and when he has put them on etc.

It's his birthday this weekend so going to have to get him something to thank him for his hard work seeing as he wont ever take money off me for labour.

Oli-VTR

29th October 2013, 16:41

good set up for you i guess! i think more than garage flowers are due this year

hard_corejoeboy

29th October 2013, 17:32

Looks much better than those ugly fogs do it.

matt_vtr_15a

29th October 2013, 17:53

The oil cooler is on drivers side and those fog caps are alnost as expensive as carbon trumpets so may provide an additional feed to the oil cooler.

Just recieved this off my dad, she is looking much healthier already, although my pockets are hurting now everything is ordered.

matt_vtr_15a

30th October 2013, 12:02

Having slight issues with the front drivers side headlight not quite lining up, however my dad is on the case with this when he recieves the front indicator tomorrow.. an easy fix but not worth wasting the time on until he has the front indicator to work with also.

At least it will be de-tango'd and rid of the front orange indicators and sidelights.

Sourced a new drivers side front OE foglight cover for £40 and ordered a carbon inlet trumpet for the passenger side, so the fogs will be gone also soon.

Undecided on whether I should get the fog cover carbon dipped or just have it sprayed silver to match the car?

Thoughts??

I can get the front oil cooler vent in the bumper changed to a carbon one as well for around £150 so could use this mishap as an opportunity to throw some carbon on her. However delivery is between 2-5 weeks so this wont be immediate just weighing up whether or not to go down the carbon route, only a subtle amount.

Or will it look tacky?

These are the carbon vents by the way....

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee498/Carbongoodies/RallytechEvo6OilCoolerVent.jpg

Nik_L

30th October 2013, 19:47

Coming along nicely.

Will you be replacing the bonnet also or just put up with the small crease.

matt_vtr_15a

30th October 2013, 20:55

Coming along nicely.

Will you be replacing the bonnet also or just put up with the small crease.

Fortunately it is not creased, just a slight chip in the paintwork fron the headlight catching it, going to get that looked at by a mobile scuff and dent repairer next week and also get the alloy refurbed.

It's barely noticeable in the flesh at first thought the bonnet was untouched, the lighting and angle here makes it look a lot worse than it is.

I intend to replace it at some pint but uprate it and shed some weight but i can't justify spending the best part of £600 quid on that at the moment but maybe something to do in the future.

I really need to try and keep some money available for maintenance of the car and I want to get it undersealed before winter strikes which is £250 for a proper job (prop-shaft & exhaust off job)

Which is more of a priority at the moment knowing the issues with these cars and rust..

hard_corejoeboy

30th October 2013, 21:42

Get the bits from halfords and do it yourself?

matt_vtr_15a

30th October 2013, 21:47

Get the bits from halfords and do it yourself?

I know this sounds a bit materialistic but I'd much rather have real carbon on the car than carbon effect, infact I just wouldn't even go close to carbon look wrap.

Would have it dipped though I suppose.

chompy

30th October 2013, 22:03

Love evos. Looks cracking.....no pun intended :p

j40mek

30th October 2013, 22:34

Few carbon bits would look nice just don't go daft and put it everywhere fog light cover and the intake and vent would look nice carbon

matt_vtr_15a

31st October 2013, 13:06

Found a carbon dipping place locally so going to get a couple of items done, also have one of the carbon trumpets being made which I should receive next week.

It is now officially de-tango'd, has smoked sidelights and front clear indicators so thats one item off the list of mods today.

Front bumper & splitter have arrived and have been sent to the spray shop with the back bumper for a respray so should have her back tomorrow/saturday!!

Will get pics of her when I have her back :y:

Also found this in the folder of invoices, mot's and receipts so thought i'd post it up.. seems to confirm it's around the 350/350 mark which is more than enough power for now.

http://s22.postimg.org/nw267tc1d/power_graph.jpg

MuZiZZle

1st November 2013, 19:38

What the flip is carbon dipping?

josh11490

1st November 2013, 20:01

What the flip is carbon dipping?

It's like a film you can dip something into, will make it look like carbon fibre, looks better then carbon wrap but no where near as nice as real carbon IMO.

Gutting about the crash but it's awesome your getting it back upto it's former condition like before!

wullvfr

1st November 2013, 20:14

Just noticed that you had a mishap with the motor dude

Gutted for you.....thankfully it ain't extremely bad and that you are ok,that's the main thing

Hope its up and running again soon enough so you can enjoy it,I love the evos:y:

matt_vtr_15a

1st November 2013, 22:41

Cheers mate she will be back soon! I hoped today as everything is now sorted just waiting on the front bumper which should of turndd up yesterday but still no sign.

And yeah carbon dipping as described above..

A lot of real carbon accesories are providrd by carbon goodies which I will invest in such as naca duct on bonnet, oil cooler vent and intake trumpet however some parts can't be sourced in carbon fibre which will have to be dipped.

I have since spoken to a guy at carbon goodies on mlr who is noe floating the idea of doing carbon fog cap covers so may be able to source a proper legit one instead of getting it dipped!

wullvfr

2nd November 2013, 09:57

matt_vtr_15a

2nd November 2013, 13:29

Are you on the mlr forum?

There's a fella that was my neighbour until I moved who is on there and does the sprint series,his name is killin1 I believe and his evo is well spec'd,I think its 550/500 or something like that.

Originally it was a evo 4 but he bought a evo 6 stripped it out and put all the parts he had on the evo 4 across,iirc it had a evo 8 engine fitted etc etc,it sounds epic.

Yeah I'm on mlr :y:

Joined up to read about them and then eventually buy one, refused to buy one from anywhere but the mlr and eventually found one that suited me for sale on the forum.

I'm very sure I have seen his name actually as I use the forum quite a lot especially at the moment.

matt_vtr_15a

11th November 2013, 23:48

She's back in my position, feels good!!

Dropping her off at a garage near work in the morning and there refurbing my damaged alloy (the rest have recently been refurbished with no marks) then it will be as good as new (they are also doing the laser tracking after balancing the refurbed wall etc. And will set it up with fast road geo.

Total cost escalated quite a lot, one of those things but I didn't want to cut corners and bodge it, the car deserves better than that!

Still got some carbon bits sat around waiting to be put on but I'll do that, would of pissed my dad off asking him to do such things when he's been busting a bollock and taking up his ramp to sort it for me asap.

My cousins managed to get me on a track day in a couple of weeks, so going to use that as an oppurtunity to get a proper feel for the car.

j40mek

12th November 2013, 00:49

Glad it's sorted mate

MJ05LLY

12th November 2013, 06:36

Glad she is back again. Really horrible crappy weather at the mo so it goes without saying drive carefully or get a cheap daily sorted

matt_vtr_15a

12th November 2013, 09:32

Glad she is back again. Really horrible crappy weather at the mo so it goes without saying drive carefully or get a cheap daily sorted

Got a cheap little 51 plate clio to knock around in for the time being but hoping the weather picks up for the weekend...

Can squeeze in a couple of mlr meets before the end of the year also :y:

Also been looking into courses and going to partake in one of these, using an evo with similar power to mine which will give me a better feel and build up my experience with this particular car.

http://www.trackdays.co.uk/driving_experience/heyford_park/mitsubishi_evolution/404/

matt_vtr_15a

14th November 2013, 09:54

Was back in my dads garage last night, received the front brake air duct in the post and wanted to fit the front fog light blanks & brackets so was a bumper off job.

The bumper is not fixed here it's just slid into the bumper rails hence the gap near the drivers side headlight.

The foglight blanks are only there temporarily, the new brackets which they come with allow me to easily fit the cold air feed trumpets to them and not have to do a bodge job....

Took the mesh off whilst the bumper was off and gave it a fresh coat of black paint which sets it off in the flesh and looks nice and fresh.

This weekend I will take off the vent that is in the central bonnet and give that a fresh coat of black paint along with the mesh covering it, just general freshening up of certain parts.

Will get it back again tonight and then such jobs as fitting the cold air feeds etc. are my own responsibility now it's back on the road which I will do this weekend.

It's detango'd now at least :y:

smiith

14th November 2013, 09:59

Looks good big lad! Think i prefer it with fogs in the bumper though, thy break that big chunk of plastic up a bit more

matt_vtr_15a

14th November 2013, 10:06

Looks good big lad! Think i prefer it with fogs in the bumper though, thy break that big chunk of plastic up a bit more

Cheers mate,

Now I have upgraded the brackets, I can switch between fog lights, fog blanks or cold air feeds in a matter of minutes.

Personally I hate those fog blanks on at the moment, look like a pair of tits on the front of the car... Only temporary until the weekend when I get the cold air feed ducts fitted and then it will look worlds better :y:

holdawayt

14th November 2013, 10:08

Looks good big lad! Think i prefer it with fogs in the bumper though, thy break that big chunk of plastic up a bit more

+1, looks strange for some reason, but the picture Matt posted previously (below) looks fine. Weird.

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee498/Carbongoodies/Evo6carbonintake_1.jpg

smiith

14th November 2013, 10:11

I think its because you can see the outline of them.. Makes it look line an afterthought or something.. Be better with cold air feed in thought

leeroybrown

14th November 2013, 10:18

Nice to see the vent going black, looooks 10000% better when they are.

Mitsubishi should have done it as standard

matt_vtr_15a

14th November 2013, 10:29

+1, looks strange for some reason, but the picture Matt posted previously (below) looks fine. Weird.

I thought the same once they were fitted, not to my taste if i'm honest, but I don't think this photo does them any favours.

Passenger side air feed will be fitted this weekend, then I will decide if I'm going to do the drivers side as well...

I quite like the unsymetrical look of that blue car, I think it looks well, if not i'll just have a cold air feed on the drivers side as well to give the oil cooler some extra cold air.

I have 2 cold air feeds and plenty of duct pipe so I can do whichever I prefer :y: this weekend is solely being spent with me tinkering on the car.

For some reason my NACA duct on the bonnet looks silver as well, and that is gloss black... some dodgy photo taking on my part...

matt_vtr_15a

14th November 2013, 21:42

Shes back now.. tidied her up a little more and let her wander back onto the road!

Fully repaired now, just going to do some subtle (subtitle?) mods this weekend ..

http://s7.postimg.org/jfhysrtkb/IMG_20131114_211057.jpg

j40mek

14th November 2013, 21:56

Looks nice mate

matt_vtr_15a

14th November 2013, 23:26

Cheeky little clip on my mates private bypass hitting a couple pops and bangs on gearchange..

http://youtu.be/xu7kV0uQkZU

matt_vtr_15a

16th November 2013, 14:35

Got around to painting the bonnet mesh and the grill that sits beneath it.

As you can tell it was silver before but miscoloured and grubby.

Was just an untidy part of the car, think it really sets it off...

http://s24.postimg.org/bructngl1/IMG_20131116_142848.jpg

matt_vtr_15a

23rd November 2013, 21:21

Undersealed the car today and fitted a single din cd played to get rid of the tape deck until i buy a double din but due to recent repairs it's been put on the backburner so used my old cd player for now..

will clay bar, polish and wax tommorow but here are some pics from today, think it looks better with clear lights and smoked side indicators than the ambers..

http://s13.postimg.org/o2nyp3mbb/IMG_20131123_122948.jpg

http://s22.postimg.org/vk2mrtq7l/IMG_20131123_142425.jpg

http://s22.postimg.org/ggyu6oxdd/IMG_20131123_142821.jpg

matt_vtr_15a

28th November 2013, 11:18

matt_vtr_15a

1st December 2013, 10:39

Bought a new black intercooler and made myself a ralliart stencil at work, gave it a spray of matt white and red to just livin the front end up a bit as it looked really bland before.. still got to get round to sorting the cold air feeds...

http://s23.postimg.org/bcx88ehbv/IMG_20131201_103347.jpg

Happy with the result in the end but need to get some better pictures of it.

matt_vtr_15a

3rd December 2013, 15:00

As I have been added to the company insurance policy site visits etc. are no longer a concern as I will jump in one of the company cars.

I am therefore now in the process of shedding some weight from the car, It weighs around 1350kg from the factory which gives me a power to weight of just under 260bhp per ton.

Looking to get this up to around 290bhp per ton through weight reduction which will require shedding 100-125kg which is not too hard in these cars and involves no lightweight panels etc. and no hacking away dashboards etc.

As I live on my own I have plenty of space for the parts and can store them all in the smaller spare room out of the way where they won't get damaged or tatty.

So over the evenings if I get chance but definitely at the weekend, the following will be removed....

Air Con & fit rs belt to bypass aircon (weekend garage job)
Rear seats
Rear Wiper & Motor
Rear Window Mechanisms
Rear Boot carpet
mdf spare wheel cover
spare wheel & jack etc.
Rear door cards
Intercooler water bottle
Parcel shelf & speakers

Mainly quick easy to remove items for now.

Will look into battery relocation to help with weight distribution a little and it will help with the cold air feed also, but polycarbonate windows, lightweight seats etc. are not in the pipeline just yet just a cost effective approach for better performance.

Realised I have saved some weight from standard due to some of the modifications.

Weight Saving already done:

Current modifications have had very little effect on current weight of the car but i'll keep a log of all the bits and bobs anyway.

Front Foglights & Brackets removed for rs covers. (-1.8kg)
3 Inch Catback SS Exhaust & Decat replaced standard system and cat. (-8.5kg)
Tommi Mak Wheels (+2kg weight) - Will change wheels in future
Replaced Double Din with single and a shed load of wiring (-2kg)
Standard Suspension replaced with coil overs (-11kg)

So far saved just over 20kg from standard just based on the current mods without even trying to weight save.

matt_vtr_15a

4th December 2013, 14:03

Quite a big update (it is to me anyway)...

Work Xmas Bonus has been confirmed and something I had in the pipeline for 2015 is now achievable this summer. Been speaking to a highly rated Evo specialist that is within 15miles of my location and plans have been made for this summer coming.

To run anymore power safely I need a rod job or drop in so the following is now going to be supplied, fitted and mapped for 2014 as it's one of their drop in deals they offer...

Drop In Job

85mm CP Forged pistons
Bridgeway H Beam forged rods rated @ 600hp
ARP Head stud kit
Mitsubishi MR Head Gasket
ACL Race Big end bearing set
New Timing Belt
New Balance Shaft belt
Genuine Top End Gasket Set

Engine Stripped, bores measured and inspected.
Block Deck checked.
Piston clearances checked.
Piston Rings Gaped.
Cylinder head Stripped & Chemically washed
Sump
Oil Pick Up line
Sump Baffle
Cylinder head pressure tested, skimmed.
Valves lapped and new stem seals fitted.
Engine rebuilt and will go through 4 oil changes through its break in period.

Extras I'll be having as part of the work:

Kelfords 272 Cams
Beehive Springs & Retainers
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Exhaust Manifold
Ported & Polished Cylinder Head
750CC injectors
Remapped with switchable maps (HI/LOW Boost)

I will also be having the apexi power fc and the electronic boost controller removed (which I will sell) replacing them with the evo 6 standard ecu and fitting a 3 port boost solenoid and switchable maps for high and low boost.

The evo 6 ecu is so versatile now and has many more features. Knock control, launch control, pops & bangs, switchable maps etc.

The set-up will see me easily over 400/400 on the standard turbo but be ready with everything in place for a bigger turbo in the future along with a more efficient intercooler to see much bigger power gains.

Started with the stripping of the car also... I think this car has got to my head :panic:

hard_corejoeboy

4th December 2013, 14:25

matt_vtr_15a

4th December 2013, 14:42

I really don't want to sound like an asshole but you crashed the car due to inexperience yes?

So instead of adding say a cage or some nice brakes or something like that, you've decided to add more power??

Don't sound like an asshole, it's a valid point.

Brakes/suspension are already upgraded sufficiently for now and i'm not putting in a cage anytime soon.

It doesn't take a great deal of time to become familiar with a car, I feel very comfortable and capable in it now and know exactly the feedback i'll get when taking a corner or how it will drive in the wet etc.

It did use to scare me at first and that was the issue, not saying i'm over confident as that is reckless but lack of confidence in this is asking for trouble...which is exactly what i got as I shit out and had an accident.

The above work is mainly to increase reliability of the engine as it is in fairness close to limit anyway and running anymore power without the work could see the engine let go. The work will bring power gains along with it to and allow a bigger turbo and proper power gains in the future.

Also the switchable maps are a reason I'm switching to the standard ecu, for general day to day driving I will mainly be using the low boost setting which will probably be the same power if not less than what it stands at now.

The higher setting will be over 400/400 which won't be used a great deal on the road anyway but mainly for track sessions etc.

WEIGHT SAVING:

Took out a few bits last night that I weighed also which has shed an additional 38kg without even trying really almost 60kg from standard in total so far. Which is pretty much like lugging around a passenger I guess.

Rear Seats & Seatbelts (13.5kg)
Jack, tools, spare wheel and carpet (18.5kg)
Rear Floor Mats (1kg)
Rear Speakers built into parcel shelf (5kg)

Still Plan on taking out the following which I have found out the weights for:

FMIC Sprayer Bottle (2.5kg dry weight)
Air Con (15kg)
Boot Plastic Trim (4kg)
Rear Door Speakers (1.5kg)
Rear Wiper Assembly (2.2kg)

This will all be done over the weekend, saving a total of 85kg over the standard weight.

Still plenty more items to remove to shed weight for free unsure about the sound deadening just yet so i'll leave that until a much later date:

hard_corejoeboy

4th December 2013, 16:50

Fair one. It is your car so its obviously your choice but not sure I would strip out a daily especially one witb ample power as standard. That said I'd probably do it especially if its going near a track ;)

Brettles1986

4th December 2013, 16:58

matt_vtr_15a

4th December 2013, 17:20

I don't understand the idea of buying a car for the amount you have and then removing parts. Surely something like aircon (although 15kg) would make minimal difference with the BHP you currently have.

I know if it was me I would be keeping the weight as it is and concentrating on power and reliability. Having said that I would probably leave it standard.

Stripping the aircon apparently makes the engine 3% more efficient when using the rs belt that bypasses the system. Not much but every little helps and i never use aircon anyway. Everything i'm removing is being kept safe and can easily be returned to the car if I so wish.

Although it's a daily It's not something I commute in as such it's just for social use and enjoyment, and there is something about a raw ride that I really like.

Performance wise my plans are above, but there's not really any minor tweaks I can do to it at this point except crank my boost up which is just asking for trouble without the supporting mods. I either leave it or do a rod job/forge it and uprate cams and turbo and run higher boost that way.

It's not cheap so one of the main reasons i'm leaving it until spring/summer is to ensure I definitely want to go ahead with the work and plough a substantial sum of money into the car or whether by that point I have bigger priorities.

I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with the stripping out aspect, i'm in two minds myself if i'm honest which is why I'm only testing the water and not removing soundproofing or anything permanent :y:

holdawayt

4th December 2013, 17:24

matt_vtr_15a

4th December 2013, 17:55

matt_vtr_15a

4th December 2013, 17:58

This is the guy I'm on about... just shows how good a guy chris is.

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=466986

Will look into their rod job service now mate :y:

matt_vtr_15a

5th December 2013, 17:55

Matt have you considered Chris at C1R in Stourbridge? He's an extremely well known Evo tuner who mainly specialises in rally prep (well known for having cars that consistently finish).
He'll build you an absolute beast at a good price and it's not too far from you.

Spoke to Chris at CR1 and he is more into forging the engine rather than doing a 'rod job/drop in'.

Also got a quote for all the parts to go forged and better turbo and it's near on £5k plus then the labour on top i'll be ruling that out, a rod job will suffice for what I need anyway so think i'm going to stick with MG Autos, and there on my door step which helps and have a great reputation as evo specialists.

Hi Mate,
See quote below.
Prices for you are on the right, the other ones are our normal RRP's
This is a good solid set of rods and pistons, but we can do cheaper ones if you prefer.

Oliver I Beam Rod Set (156mm) £720.00 £660.00
CP 2.0LR Piston Kit 85.50mm £459.00 £450.00
ACL Bearing Set (Rod, Main, Thrust) £145.00 £125.00
ARP Main Stud Kit £95.00 £85.00
A1 H11 Head Stud Kit £260.00 £220.00
1000A175 Engine Gasket Set £265.00 £240.00
Balance Shaft Delete Kit £75.00 £69.00
OE Oil Pump £255.00 £225.00
OE Water Pump (Evo6) £115.00 £75.00
Cam Belt Kit (3pcs) £115.00 £95.00
RS 3mm Lash Adjusters £125.00 £105.00
Kiggley Racing Beehive Springs £395.00 £395.00
71HTA Turbo £1445 £1440
E9 Turbo Fitting Kit £125 £95

Yates

9th December 2013, 06:54

Oli-VTR

9th December 2013, 07:27

Oli-VTR

9th December 2013, 07:27

pped daily is viable and no harder to live with than otherwise.

matt_vtr_15a

9th December 2013, 09:33

I get what you are saying about removing weight. But with these cars I don't see point in removing things you wont be able to put back, why air con? Do you really believe you will notice the differ nce with that gone? Ok all adds up but just think it's taking it too far. Your car I know. But once you get it to 400/400 then decide if you want to take out non returnable things.

The plans sound good, what's the cost for All that? Not easier to drop an 8 engine in as won't need hardly anything for 400/400, don't know price on doing that mind. Mine was 390/390 and was ridiculous. Never seen point in weight saving altho was an mr so lighter but that kinda power mate its ridiculous. Wouldn't want a lighter rear end with that power either

It's all very returnable as I'd always keep the option of returning it to as it is now not going track spec to the point of no return just shedding some needless weight.

I'm hanging fire on the aircon for the sake of 15-20kg for now but it's no massive job to take it off or put it back on again really it's only one belt.

I can push close to 400/400 by mapping with higher boost but it's just a risk of chucking a rod the closer you get and I'd rather run the engine on the safer side.

Replacing the engine is of no real benefit as to push past 400/400 in the future it would still require a rod job, same as mine really.

Got several quotes but looking at the following:

Rod job - £1850
Kelford cams and kiggley racing beehive springs £1100

Prices inclusive of vat and fitting if all work is done at same time. Includes running in map and them hi and low boost switchable maps utilised via the intercooler switch.

That would push past 400/400 and be fully ready to chuck on an uprated turbo and run comfortably at high boost. Seen many dyno print puts running +500 for this spec plus the FP 71HTA Turbo. Which is around £1600 including fitting kit + fitting.

The turbo wouldn't come too soon due to funds and priorities and if I even could benefit from that power on the road.

But I'll have a solid, reliable rebuilt engine ready to take on a better turbo if I so wish in the future as I plan on keeping this indefinately and maybe only running on trackdays/weekends in the future.

It just all adds up, such as I could do with the inlet and exhaust manifold porting and polishing which I've been quoted £500 for. But then the standard mani is only rated to 450bhp... so would need to spend big money at the same time as a new turbo on a new mani.

400/400 is feasible but the real big figures with uprated turbo etc. won't be seen until at least 2015 so that's as good as a pipe dream for now. But at least the engine will be at a spec ready for the upgrade.

leeroybrown

9th December 2013, 15:31

What you need is an FP Green whacked onto that engine!

matt_vtr_15a

9th December 2013, 15:37

What you need is an FP Green whacked onto that engine!

The FP I have been quoted for is an intermediate between the White and Green I believe, everyone swears by those greens though and a lot of guys seem to run them in the sprint series.

Achieve great figures and seem to last to!!!

Worth the extra Dollar, when I eventually get to that stage I think that is the route I'll go mate :y:

matt_vtr_15a

9th December 2013, 15:47

Here is a few turbos compared on the same dyno...

I've been quoted a price on The fp71 But the green is fp73... Will be looking into them a bit more as there's plenty of time between now and then. :y:

This is what I could expect with rod job, 272 cams and turbo though.. more if port and polish etc.

http://s27.postimg.org/5ltyc9ihf/20131205_211213_Medium.jpg

leeroybrown

9th December 2013, 15:53

The FP I have been quoted for is an intermediate between the White and Green I believe, everyone swears by those greens though and a lot of guys seem to run them in the sprint series.

Achieve great figures and seem to last to!!!

Worth the extra Dollar, when I eventually get to that stage I think that is the route I'll go mate :y:

We have a local Evo specialist called EVOtune, been to rather a few of his rolling roads there and they had a Evo 8 260 on the rollers. Not many people watched it the being the small powered one. Soon as it was on the rollers and it came on to boooooost the whole place was watching it lol. Sneaky owner had a FP green on it, what a noise! Looked totally standard to. Hits booost and it literally takes off!

matt_vtr_15a

9th December 2013, 15:58

We have a local Evo specialist called EVOtune, been to rather a few of his rolling roads there and they had a Evo 8 260 on the rollers. Not many people watched it the being the small powered one. Soon as it was on the rollers and it came on to boooooost the whole place was watching it lol. Sneaky owner had a FP green on it, what a noise! Looked totally standard to. Hits booost and it literally takes off!

Stop it!!

It's already crossed my mind to cancel going on holiday in 2014 and blow it on a FP turbo, That would be the end of me and the missus!!

Must keep priorites in order :P

SMALL UPDATE
Bought a set of these in red as they were going for a decent price from a trader on MLR. No point putting them on over winter so when they arrive will be stored in the evo parts bedroom in my house till spring.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y510/Martin_Waller/b_beiy02056224_3_zps8f207e68.jpg (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/Martin_Waller/media/b_beiy02056224_3_zps8f207e68.jpg.html)

The tuner style nuts look better imo, this gives an idea of what they look like on a tommi mak rims and the reason I bought them, as it looks much fresher IMO.

Very minor update I know but trying to focus on the details where I can.

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/max137137/DSC_2060_zps9db6020a.jpg[/URL]
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/max137137/DSC_2062_zps79cffab6.jpg[/URL]

Yates

9th December 2013, 19:12

SaxoKid95

9th December 2013, 19:32

Private land of course...

Gentle low rev launch (could be more aggressive but i like my clutch) and not going to deep into the red zone..

0-60 is somewhere around mid 4's i think

Evo vi 0-100mph - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fXyV9kLweQ)

That looks rapid mate and sounds really nice.

matt_vtr_15a

9th December 2013, 19:41

didnt think aircon would be that easy to refit but if it is fair enough, but i really dont think at 400/400 you would notice if it was in or out.

to drop an 8 engine in and get 400/400 you dont need rods at all, hence why i mentioned it. To get anything over 400/400 how ever you need deep pockets, i honestly think get it to the highest you can with it being reliable and you will be happy. I wouldnt get any of that work done for a long time, get used to the car then track it.

Ahh I didn't know they were that much stronger, that's fair enough, I'll be looking to push past though to a stage I imagine will need rods.

I just know I have a healthy and fairly low moleage engine with this so I'll stick with it, I'm not going track spec so to speak but it will be used on a few track days next year as it already has the brakes, suspension and setup for it.

When I say aircon is easy to replace it's mainly as the work wont be carried out by myself :p.

Think you are right though, for what its worth I may as well leave the aircon in for now.

Sticking to things that are just a matter of being removed not involving alterations mechanically.

It makes no difference in the real world, but in effect I've lost the weight of a passenger which will make a slight difference in some way or another.

Giraffe

9th December 2013, 20:05

So you keeping this long term then Matt? Shelved the M3 plans completely?

matt_vtr_15a

9th December 2013, 21:54

So you keeping this long term then Matt? Shelved the M3 plans completely?

Yeah think I'm into this car for the long haul now. Don't want to run it into the ground but fortunstely any long distance travelling usually opt to use the missus' s car as I'm a named driver on that.

My situation currently works well for this car but in the future may get a diesil high mpg runaround alongside it of my own.

Wont be getting another performance car alongside this so m3 plans seem well and truley shelved.

Things change though, and I can see the evo becoming a money pit with the availability of upgrades and specialists etc. So if it keeps burning a hole in my pocket I may have to get something I'm not inclined to modify.

I'm sure in the distant future I'll own something fast and german and a bit more luxury, either m3 or c63amg especially as my dad raised me to respect ze german car manufacturers. At the moment though I'm blinkered by the evo, I love it.

Giraffe

9th December 2013, 21:56

Ah well, at least you're happy with it, that's the main thing!

matt_vtr_15a

10th December 2013, 11:23

Ah well, at least you're happy with it, that's the main thing!

Are you disappointed in me Dave?

Jap is a phase I'm sure whilst still young, I'll mature into some luxurious High Powered German Barge at some point I'm sure.

My dad would be disappointed in me if i didn't.

Brettles1986

10th December 2013, 11:38

Giraffe

10th December 2013, 11:41

Are you disappointed in me Dave?

Jap is a phase I'm sure whilst still young, I'll mature into some luxurious High Powered German Barge at some point I'm sure.

My dad would be disappointed in me if i didn't.

Haha nah man, your money etc! I'm one for barges with interiors, so I can't comment!

I just thought the plan was get the Evo out of your system and then get an M3, which I thought was an incredible idea. Power hunting with an Evo is a good idea, just not quite incredible ;)

matt_vtr_15a

10th December 2013, 11:50

Haha nah man, your money etc! I'm one for barges with interiors, so I can't comment!

I just thought the plan was get the Evo out of your system and then get an M3, which I thought was an incredible idea. Power hunting with an Evo is a good idea, just not quite incredible ;)

I'm sure that will materialise over time, i Just have the evo well and truly in my system at the moment, so not really paying much attention to the M3 idea but by the time I hit my mid to late 20's I'm sure that will seem a much better route for my situation. The insurance was less as well on the m3 but I was also struggling to find an example that met my criteria for my budget at the time (high mileage).

I like to have a back up fund for any mishaps/maintenance etc., which proved vital when I dinged the evo.... if i'd of done that in an m3 that met my criteria i'd of used pretty much all my funds and had a crumpled m3 sat on the drive whilst i saved to get it back in the road.

Bit of luxury and plenty of n/a grunt with a nice roar, I can in visage that at some point down the line as I mature, but not within the next couple of years. :y:

unclewinnet

10th December 2013, 12:31

its never ending on mods on evos i know ive been there when i did my engine in on my evo 6 running 426 bhp on my standerd bottom end what was going to be a 3k and 450bhp ended up being a 6k and close to 600bhp and i did all the work my self only the mapping and maching was not done bye me heres a few pics off what happens when u puse 400bhp on a standerd bottom end

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/gtir1281/evo%20rebulid/27307018.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gtir1281/media/evo%20rebulid/27307018.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/gtir1281/evo%20rebulid/27307019.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gtir1281/media/evo%20rebulid/27307019.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/gtir1281/evo%20rebulid/27307016.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gtir1281/media/evo%20rebulid/27307016.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/gtir1281/evo%20rebulid/27307015.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gtir1281/media/evo%20rebulid/27307015.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/gtir1281/evo%20rebulid/27307014.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gtir1281/media/evo%20rebulid/27307014.jpg.html)

D4MJT

10th December 2013, 12:36

That's a pretty extreme solution to crankcase ventilation mind.

matt_vtr_15a

10th December 2013, 12:38

Ouch that looks nasty!!!

exactly why I want to do the work before pushing any closer to 400bhp. I could run 400 right now if I so wished, but how long it would last is another question as you found out for yourself!!

I'm fairly mechanically minded, and my dad is a mechanic with his own garage but finding the time to do the work myself and my dad finding the time around his work load would be very hard and mean the car being off the road for quite some time.

I can also get a decent warranty with evo specialist so i'll leave it to the pros and have the piece of mind :y:

unclewinnet

10th December 2013, 12:41

here a pic off the block
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/gtir1281/evo%20rebulid/Evo_new028.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gtir1281/media/evo%20rebulid/Evo_new028.jpg.html)

and the piston

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/gtir1281/evo%20rebulid/Evo_new021.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gtir1281/media/evo%20rebulid/Evo_new021.jpg.html)

hard_corejoeboy

10th December 2013, 12:44

I would say an m3 would be a downgrade from this. Yeah they are good but they aren't as great as people make them out to be. Also this is much more tuneable and 4wd.

unclewinnet

10th December 2013, 12:54

id do it you self you will save load just by a cheap runaround the satfiction off doing it you self is great when i did mine a few years ago every one said to me it had to be done by an evo specialist but like you my dad was a retired mechanic who had his own garage

so he helped me with bits but only when i needed his help and off course i used all his contacts he had built up over the years so got most things at cost price

biggest out lay was the crank rods and pistons as i decided to go for the 2.3 stroker kit

i also did all the bushes up front while the car was in bits

and all done at home as well

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/gtir1281/progras220507036.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gtir1281/media/progras220507036.jpg.html)

matt_vtr_15a

10th December 2013, 13:10

I'd get enjoyment from it i'm sure but i'm far too impatient and i'd fear it would never get finished.

Done some random projects with my dad before pissing about in my 6 week holidays as a kid etc. loved it but this is not soo much of a project car to me... I want it to be warranted and used as pretty much a daily for now.

Not got the space for it either, I have a drive but not sufficient to do such work on and it would get stripped at my dads yard by scumbags as it couldn't take up the garage space.

I'd ruin it in all honesty.

Fair play to you though!!

MuZiZZle

10th December 2013, 20:59

I would say an m3 would be a downgrade from this. Yeah they are good but they aren't as great as people make them out to be. Also this is much more tuneable and 4wd.

Silence bell housing!

They are entirely different!

Back to your pink fwd death trap!

matt_vtr_15a

10th December 2013, 21:35

Silence bell housing!

They are entirely different!

Back to your pink fwd death trap!

Haha...

Very true though, 2 cars that can't really be compared...

The m3 is much more refined and a real 'drivers' car with a big lump of n/a power.

The evo is very basic spec wise and offers no luxury but it just doesn't seem important when behind the wheel. , much smaller engine which requires a snail rather than sheer grunt.

The evo is an itch that must be scratched, love it to bits and it suits my current situation, I'll get to a stage no doubt where I wish to sit in a little more comfort and have plenty of power on tap straight from the factory with no faffin about or interest in chasing numbers.

matt_vtr_15a

10th December 2013, 23:55

Stumbled across a JMF manifold with zircotec ceramic coating and couldn't help myself. Lets call it an early xmas present to start off the stockpile of parts.

They are highly rated from what I've read and work in conjuction with the standard turbo as well as a range of aftermarket turbos (including forced performance) so it suits my future plans and can also be utilised in the meantime.

Some pics of these manifolds... mmmmm

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/bhp376/MLR%20Group%20Buys/1-6.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/bhp376/MLR%20Group%20Buys/3-3-1.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/bhp376/MLR%20Group%20Buys/7-1.jpg

D4MJT

11th December 2013, 07:45

matt_vtr_15a

11th December 2013, 08:48

By "stumbled across"

do you mean

"I've spent the last 2 months scouring eBay for sweet tuner parts for my naughty engine build, and when I finally couldn't help myself anymore this turned out to be the least ruinous item on my eBay watch list"

:D

Haha definately not an ebay item mate!, £100 quidders on ebay that would probably spontaneously combust and explode after ten mins of driving!

Buy right buy once and all that.

D4MJT

11th December 2013, 08:53

Ah I didn't mean it was shonky dude my bad, sometimes you get decent 2nd hand bargains that people have never fitted etc :afro:

Oli-VTR

11th December 2013, 09:08

Oooooh that's a nice looking mani!

matt_vtr_15a

11th December 2013, 09:08

Ah I didn't mean it was shonky dude my bad, sometimes you get decent 2nd hand bargains that people have never fitted etc :afro:

Ahhh my bad..

Theres occasional the odd decent bit thst reaches ebay but mlr forum normqlly has plenty of meaty stuff. Makes me realise how much disposable income some people mustbhave though :(

jsdvtr

11th December 2013, 09:52

matt_vtr_15a

11th December 2013, 11:54

Plans sounds really good. I really would love to own a evo as a track toy but i just dont think i could afford to do with having my own house too. Its just the running costs of them.

I think once my boosted saxos done it should more than be enough to fulfill my boost needs haha.

It's a mix really, it's a daily but more than ready for a few track sessions next year thanks to the previous owner.

In fairness the cars set-up is aimed much more at track anyway, it's geo set-up for it, the coil overs are set-up for it and the brakes are fast road/track spec (carbotech xp8's) which squeal their tits off for daily use as they just don't get hot enough.

I know what you mean about running costs though, I live on my own and have to pay all the bills and then run this on top of it. I only commute 15miles per week now and the rest is social on top of that is for enjoyment really.

When i lived with my parents I travelled probably 250miles per week, this car just wouldn't of been feasible for that imo especially as I aim to keep it fairly low mileage rather than bang 12k a year on it.

matt_vtr_15a

11th December 2013, 13:42

Bored at work and bought a bloody ecu now.....

It's an evo vi ralliart ecu running stage 1 mods as well as 'pops and bangs & launch control' so can get the apexi replaced and get it tweaked it to my car and the mani can go on at the same time.

(Lots of machine gun fire pops on overrun and massive gear change bangs.)

This is going to be done over Christmas if the local evo specialist can get me in or the first couple of weeks of the new year.

Going to push the boost to 1.5bar and with the mani on i'd imagine this should see me easily reach about 380bhp, but I don't want to run no more than that until the rod job is done.

I won't be using launch control unless I do a santa pod run etc. as it absolutely eats clutches alive.

Here is an example of pops and bangs and launch control..... I'll grow out of it after a few weeks... maybe.

(People refer to it as anti-lag, it makes the noise of anti-lag but doesn't actually create anti-lag)

Mitsubishi Evo 6 TME Launch-controll + Anti lag - 600hk+ - YouTube

My apexi ecu will be for sale once done which will cover the costs of the evo 6 ecu and mapping tweaks with enough money left over to fill the tank up :y:

leeroybrown

11th December 2013, 15:44

Oli-VTR

11th December 2013, 16:39

You'll never tire of that. Sounds amazeballs

unclewinnet

11th December 2013, 17:06

Told you the bills will add up it great what they can do with the standard ecu now shame they couldn't do all the stuff when I had my 6 I had to use the pfc and avcr boost controller

What boost control are you using

matt_vtr_15a

11th December 2013, 17:45

Hey Matt,

Can you not have it mapped on Speed Density on a 6? Would change the car to a smooth & very sharp, progressive throttle response with a car that will tick all the boxes for everyday driving, trackday or sprinting..

Have you looked into that?

Yes it is going to be SD, my chosen tuner have sd mapped a few evos in the sprint series with great results.

Going mafless seems to be a great choice and It's amazing how versqtile the stabdard ecu is, knock control is a big plus to. The apexi I have on it is almost a dinosaur in comparison. Some massive numbers have been achieved on standard ecu with all the geekmappers about with the knowhow

http://www.geekmapped.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3953.html

Lee is an absolute god in the evo tuning department. Getting an evo 6 ecu from him actually, no longer the ralliart one though just a clean unabused evo 6 ecu to start a fresh from

You'll never tire of that. Sounds amazeballs

Should be plenty of fun, switchable maps via intercooler switch to for high and low boost along with pops and bangs/launch on the higher boost map so it can be disengaged when required.

Can't beat that overrun rumble and chucking a flame and bang out on gearchange or at anyone who sits on you rear bunper

Evo 6 Tunnel - Antilag - YouTube

Told you the bills will add up it great what they can do with the standard ecu now shame they couldn't do all the stuff when I had my 6 I had to use the pfc and avcr boost controller

What boost control are you using

Yep I have the power fc ecu which is being ditched, and it's got an apexi avcr boost controller mate !

matt_vtr_15a

12th December 2013, 22:39

Soo I'm off at xmas for 3 weeks and just recieved my pay rise and bonus so booked in the following which is a 450/500 mile round trip but distance shouldn't matter when it comes to being mapped by the best in the business.

So here is the breakdown.... just paid a deposit to fix a date.. soo excited!!

The SD conversion is the best conversion you can do, its like having a 2k ecu fitted for the price of a EcuTek map. We can fit you in and as its xmas I will do you a deal on it*I can do the full SD conversion including the twin maps, but this can not be done on the intercooler switch on the E6 because its not connected to the ecu, so we will have to fit a new switch.See if you like this...

-Remove Apexi ECU
-Supply & fit E6 Ecu
-Supply map Switch
-Fit map Switch
-1 x Maps Sensor
-1 x Air Temp Sensor
-2 x Wiring Harnesses for the aboveTwin Maps all set up on the DD rollers

Now the fun stuff..

Switchable maps low boost/high boost with features
Pops and Bangs
Launch control with full Rally Anti-Lag
Launch Control with Traction
All in for £760

This will really transform my car and remove the restriction of the MAF which will give a much better ride and also unleash some extra ponies.

Low boost and high boost with all the goodies on high boost so its just a flick of a switch to engage or disengage launch/antilag etc.

Not sure what high boost ill be running yet as I dont want to exceed 380/390 bhp until a rod job has been done buthigh boost will be max. Of 1.6bar

Bring on the bangs!!!

Can anybody also recommend the best company for gauges? Thinking of getting a single din set-up with boost/ oil pressure / oil temp for instance as can all be eired up during ecu switchover.

Was tempted to get the oem mitsi triple gauge but it only runs up to 1.5bar boost so not particularly useful.

wullvfr

13th December 2013, 06:18

Seems a really good price,the car will be the dogs danglies:y:

thecorporatemachine

13th December 2013, 07:06

My daily is completely stripped out, running minimal felt audio, buckets, harnesses. Yes it's 'just a saxo' but I've never been sat there thinking, damn I really wish I had some roof lining above me, and rather than finding the noise drones I'd say it I enjoy it. On motorway journeys it gets uncomfy, but that's almost entirely due to seat and suspension, which I can adjust band soften I just never do!
But yes, my 2 pence is that running a fully stri

Glad I'm not the only one!t here's something about a raw car that's very satisfying,even as a daily! My vtr is the same!

Nice evo, deffinatley got the best looking one of the range! There's one of these near me, well worth the money!
Keep up the good work,

matt_vtr_15a

13th December 2013, 11:01

Seems a really good price,the car will be the dogs danglies:y:

Cheers mate!!!

matt_vtr_15a

14th December 2013, 14:08

Bit more communication with my mapper and officially booked in before the new year, the man is an absolute wizard with these ecu's and has mapped many of the evos competing in sprint and time attack with great results.

I'll get before and after graphs so it will show the differences made.

Also going to have the car serviced with millers oils for engine, diff, ayc etc. whilst it's there. It's only covered about 3000 miles since last service but it was almost 6months ago so will do it for piece of mind.

Now have a good idea of the full system I'll be going for which can be tweaked, one big thing is I'll have knock control which is not available on the apexi I currently have.

Obviously having switchable maps so the flick of an in car switch gives me the following:

Map 1 - day to day use
Low boost (1-1.2 bar) with no extras.

This map is aimed at economy and be generally used thru the week when just nipping here and there. Also ideal if going in for MOT etc.

Map 2 - weekend / hardcorejoeboy racing mode
Moderate Boost (1.5/1.6bar) with goodies.

-Pops and bangs
-NLTS ( no lift to shift) wont be used often but ideal for 1/4mile & sprints
-launch control with full rally antilag.

Not having launch control with traction I don't think, seen many clips and it almost makes the engine bog down on launch to prevent any spinning and seems pretty pointless and a less effective launch than letting the ayc do its job. NOT FOR ME.

May seem a little OTT with some of the features but at least they are there for the future and will assist with any trackdays or 1/4 mile runs etc.

GolfJay

14th December 2013, 14:30

No lift to shift? This may sound like a stupid question but how does that work?

Giraffe

14th December 2013, 14:43

No lift to shift? This may sound like a stupid question but how does that work?

I'd assume it's going to work the same way an automatic gear box does in that it probably stops the throttle regardless of whether your foot is down or not. I'm guessing the only time it will save is the physical travel time of your foot and the reaction time though? EDIT: I assume autos work like that? Certainly feels like they cut throttle, change gear, re-engage throttle. Or another thought would be that it limits the revs at a certain amount so you can't bounce off the limited? I honestly don't know, just speculation.

matt_vtr_15a

14th December 2013, 15:44

No lift to shift? This may sound like a stupid question but how does that work?

Basically what dave said, allows a quicker change, you can just keep your foot planted to the floor as you change thru gears. Worth having it mapped in as it's there and would be interesting to run 1/4miles with and without some features to see the difference...

Not something that should be used day to day driving I imagine though.

It can be done by cutting ignition or fuel from what little I know about it but I'm also not sure if a predetermined rev limit can be set so if you have full throttle and engage the clutch it doesn't bounce of the limiter but almost act as some form of rev matching for gear changes.

It's all slightly over my head, I look on the geekmappers forum and it just makes me feel soo dumb at what people can do and how they develop roms etc. For the ecu's.

Seems to be a feature that some guysbin the sprint series really approve of for slightly faster gear changes etc.

Will have a full run down of everything as I'll be spending half a day or so down their with the mapper whilst it's all being done etc.

matt_vtr_15a

14th December 2013, 15:49

The new 2014 camaro is tuned for no lift no shift.. this vid briefly explains it with the camaro... boost is near on instant on gear change rather than revs dropping to a point it needs to respool...

No-lift shifting in a 2014 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - YouTube

And here is an evo with it mapped in...

almost 40psi 8k RPM NLTS - YouTube

GolfJay

14th December 2013, 16:09

Fuck me that Evo sounds savage!

matt_vtr_15a

14th December 2013, 16:11

Fuck me that Evo sounds savage!

They sound crazy on boost! Mine makes me grin every time :p

matt_vtr_15a

16th December 2013, 17:39

Got some hub centric spacers today from an mlr trader for a good price, which should arrive before xmas.

Going 20mm spacers rear with 15mm spacers on the front with longer studs provided.

Should give that car a slightly wider stance, as I have noticed the wheels just sit slightly inboard of the arch a little too much... which is amplified because of the fact it is on coil overs.

These will be saved to the side for now as I refuse to have the car full geo setup again until the wheels are refurbed in the spring.

Just need to decide whether I want to keep the tommi mak rims the original gloss white as they are now or go down the anthracite route.

matt_vtr_15a

24th December 2013, 12:13

Today I treated myself to this....

http://s30.postimg.org/52vpi5of5/IMG_20131224_120537.jpg

so expect some vid clips to be popping up in this thread!

also just waiting on some map sensors and then in for the remap which will give some good video material!

L33h

24th December 2013, 12:30

Id crash with one of them haha

hard_corejoeboy

24th December 2013, 19:49

Ouch! You don't do things cheaply do ya?? I got the Hero2 and saved a bomb!

matt_vtr_15a

24th December 2013, 20:22

Ouch! You don't do things cheaply do ya?? I got the Hero2 and saved a bomb!

I wanted mine to be wireless with no additional wireless pack etc. just linked my phone to it via the wireless app and it's dead handy.

Also plan on using it underwater as I do a lot of snorkling etc. and apparntly the case for the hero 3 is better suited to that due to the flat lens cover or something.

Theres a few difference between the models, nothing life changing but worth the money in my opinion.

e8_pqck

24th December 2013, 21:44

Great thread - reminds of when i had my GT-Four.

If i look bac k i foolow the same process, mod it, break it, make itr worse then sell it. Hope you dont follow the same but i get a feeling you will. It's not all bad, becasue it's fun and it's your car,

My current car im keeping as a car for the road - no stripping at all! Just speccing up the factory options so i have everything. Just some are bloody expensive though! lol

Good luck

matt_vtr_15a

24th December 2013, 23:03

Videod a few bits whilst popping here and there today and trimmed a few clips out for testing several different video qualities out in different lights whilst mounted externally. Nothing to get excited about just general driving.

http://youtu.be/EtgA8J6BMWU

all set up now so will get some better quality videos up with being off work etc. Hoping for some snow :p to get full use out of it.

I was mainly testing wind noise and audio quality which doesn't seem to bad, pushed it to 70mph (ish)... and audio was still good with little wind interference.

Great thread - reminds of when i had my GT-Four.

If i look bac k i foolow the same process, mod it, break it, make itr worse then sell it. Hope you dont follow the same but i get a feeling you will. It's not all bad, becasue it's fun and it's your car,

My current car im keeping as a car for the road - no stripping at all! Just speccing up the factory options so i have everything. Just some are bloody expensive though! lol

Good luck

Cheers mate,

you got a progress thread for the new weapon?

Currently it is not stripped at all, had to give my mum and dad a lift to the airport and put the rear seats back in along with the other bits. It made literally no noticeable difference whatsoever stripping parts out so I'd rather keep it a tidy example for now and maybe just shed weight prior to a track day until the focus sways from it being my road car.

I'm all or nothing though, either buy lightweight replacement parts n strip it out properly or leave it as it was intended so for now that's what I shall do as I have other priorities and it leaves me scope their in the future.

hard_corejoeboy

24th December 2013, 23:30

I think part of the evo's appeal is its all round ability. Why sacrifice that if its unnecessary?

matt_vtr_15a

24th December 2013, 23:44

I think part of the evo's appeal is its all round ability. Why sacrifice that if its unnecessary?

I'm not as it's back as it was, didn't feel quite right either... with my saxo it felt raw and It was all part of the appeal of that car for me but it just doesn't feel right with the evo. Not as a roadcar anyway, so it's just staying as intended rather than being stripped etc.

matt_vtr_15a

29th December 2013, 02:20

Some will like some will not, however raised the bonnet to see if I like or not and within ten minute had a nice gentleman advise me that my bonnet was open.

Long trip to Kent on Monday/Tuesday so that's my temporary excuse for putting them on incase I hit traffic....

Yay or Nay? (On the evo they are functional at mainly low speeds)

Tommorow I should get around to the cold air feed within the foglight blank and Monday/Tuesday should see the results of SD Mapping. I'm waiting on the mapper to recieve some more map sensors which have been delayed due to Christmas postage etc. but all being well with him tommorow.

Took these on the GoPro to test out the image quality, fine for what I want but not exactly professional quality either.

http://s28.postimg.org/8vay4xwkd/IMG_20131228_183931.jpg

http://s23.postimg.org/r0xz1pmvv/IMG_20131228_183546.jpg

dannygti

29th December 2013, 02:26

BIG no from me I'm affraid. There is massive vents in the bonnet as standard to sort that problem out

matt_vtr_15a

29th December 2013, 02:42

BIG no from me I'm affraid. There is massive vents in the bonnet as standard to sort that problem out

with size of the bonnet vents you would think so, but there is a large space beyond that at the rear of the engine bay which traps a lot of heat.

I have a heat deflector on and the naca duct is directly putting cold air onto the air filter when in motion which is perfectly fine but at a standstill there is a considerable amount of heat soak at the back of the bay where the air filter is positioned.

Not somrthing that has a noticeable affect for the use I have but I'd like to say it has some form of functionality.

I'm undecided myself, it looks more agressive and I think I prefer it... but it's marmite! :y:

dannygti

29th December 2013, 02:56

matt_vtr_15a

29th December 2013, 04:45

If your engine is not overheating, you don't need to do that.. If your engine is overheating that means you have a problem, doesn't mean the bonnet needs lifting. Let's face it the only real reason you've done it because you think it looks good.. An that's cool it's your car after all :)

I'm not a fan of lifter bonnets.. I think it spoils the look of the car, especially a cool car like an evo 6

haha saw through my bullshit, I do like the lifters.

It's only 4 bolts, easily changed I just like to fiddle.

it does reduce the bay temps though, the apexi displays a whole range of temperatures etc. and the air temperature is slightly down it's negligible but it is a degree or two down as I wanted to gauge a before and after scenario. Hardly enough to make any noticeable difference from my perspective but at least no negative effect as such as of yet.

hard_corejoeboy

29th December 2013, 10:45

I got rid of mine as soon as I got the car. Also your temps may be down as it may have been a cooler day and looking at the temp differences of the last day or two its gone below freezing overnight whereas it hasn't reached that down my way all year.

hard_corejoeboy

29th December 2013, 10:45

But if you like it then thats all that matters....

Yates

29th December 2013, 11:14

Matt it looks dog shit. Evo needs fuck a doing to it. Stop it.

matt_vtr_15a

29th December 2013, 11:33

haha never seen 4 bolts cause such conflict, absolute marmite so it seems majority of ehich seemingly hate it.

Yates

29th December 2013, 12:19

No everyone hates it they just don't dare say

Viper

29th December 2013, 13:13

Bonnet raisers are gay.

josh11490

29th December 2013, 13:14

Don't see why all the hate, doesn't look terrible, not something I would do but if they were on a car I had I'd be in no rush to remove them...

Proper love this car, I'm determined to own an evo one day, always loved them.

Nik_L

29th December 2013, 16:27

You had a perfect base and it dosn't need much more, if anything, done cosmetically. It now looks like you are doing things for the sake of it with no real gains. Trying too hard.

Plenty others running much more power with no need to raise the bonnet.

matt_vtr_15a

31st December 2013, 16:45

Finally.

Booked in for 10am this Friday for the SD conversion and remap, also recieved my maf delete pipe which I got made up by an MLR member so the MAF can be completely removed ridding it of any restriction.

http://s17.postimg.org/8f2pdubtr/IMG_20131231_164834.jpg

Not dwelling on the bonnet raisers, it's a matter of 4 bolts and i'm undecided so just going with them for now; all of 5mins work to switch them back when I realise there not for me, but the general vibe is that there very turd.

matt_vtr_15a

3rd January 2014, 19:30

Well just got home after having the SD conversion with switchable maps, absolute love it and it has transformed my car completely.

The SD really is much better than MAF I had previously, I can put the car in 4th gear at low speed and no jerkiness whatsoever whereas previously there would of been the odd stutter. Idle is absolute bang on 1k now to whereas at was previously hunting.

Antilag launch control is just class and I had an ideal oppurtunity to play with it alongside an M3.. not eomething I will use a deal as it can eat clutches alive if overused but great fun now and then if something worthwhile has a play.

Pops and bangs mapped in, they have been mapped to kick in above 4k on my higher boost map, let off above 4k and it sounds like a thunderstorm and lights up the night sky.

Couldn't be happier also got some decent results on dyno, as I expected but decent nevertheless.

Low Boost (1.2 bar) 315bhp with matching torque
High Boost (1.6 bar) 380.1bhp with 370 torque.

Long day driving and hanging around so I'm chilling now for the night, will get up some pics etc. in due course.

matt_vtr_15a

5th January 2014, 20:48

Couple of pics of the work involved...

Map sensor wiring

http://s15.postimg.org/b1imql4vv/20140105_113434.jpg

http://s17.postimg.org/8yieoem7j/20140105_113450.jpg

MAF Delete

http://s27.postimg.org/4yoaiwdc3/20140105_113725.jpg

The MAF that was removed

http://s23.postimg.org/rdrm9b5dn/20140103_201237.jpg

wullvfr

5th January 2014, 21:45

matt_vtr_15a

6th January 2014, 00:26

Good stuff:y:

Sounds like a good set up,if I had an evo its something I'd like with regards to the two settings,not over the top but ideal for a road car.

You need to get a vid of the pops and bangs,something I love to hear.

Killin1's evo sounds feckin unreal and I remember seeing it go through all the stages from std evo to what it is now,I could hear it from the house and it was like thunder,even heading out the road I could hear it for miles.

In theory it's really handy but if I'm honest I've not got out of the higher boost setting yet ha. Done a couple of launches but I've banned myself now as you can slightly smell clutch after a launch tand I don't fancy replacing that or the turbo anytime soon. I was aware this would be the case but rather have it mapped in and avoid using it than not have it.

The pop and bangs get more frequent the more I run it in as the sas system has been redundant for some time so likely clogged up and as it clears it gives bigger pops and bangs. System works well as the pops and bangs are mapped in to a set rev limit so cruiaing along on the motorway I'm not constantly banging unless I decide I want to by dropping a gear.

Already been handy to get some white van man off my bumper at some traffic lights, didn't get close at the second set.

Will get some clips up soon, the weather hasn't really allowed this weekend.

matt_vtr_15a

7th January 2014, 00:24

In the hunt for a few more bangs I removed the two sas banjo bolts and drilled them out this evening.

The banjo bolts on the evo vi are only 1-2mm so I removed them drilled them out to about 5-6mm and put them back into the sas system.

Bigger diameter sas bolts...

http://s29.postimg.org/fhou2itnr/IMG_20140106_204509.jpg

which lead to this to get a quick clip which I shall put up shortly...

http://s27.postimg.org/q9255m7bn/IMG_20140106_235118.jpg

matt_vtr_15a

7th January 2014, 00:33

Flames on antilag launch but otherwise the pops and bangs don't flame until the exhaust is pretty hot, was only out 15mins to do thi video so didn't get up to flaming temperature on overun, gives an idea though like a machine gun on overun but as it gets hotter get some big bangy flamey ones.

Mitsubishi Evo VI Launch - Pops & Bangs - YouTube

matt_vtr_15a

8th January 2014, 11:55

Currently looking into altering the final drive, been doing some of the calculations based on the standard gear ratios of the 5 speed box. Nothing I can really do engine wise now until I go for the drop in/rod job with cams and an upgraded turbo which is a BIG investment and something I'm definitely putting off now until next year.

I have the bug massively and can't help but look at things to do to it, been looking into the drivetrain side of things and I'm really tempted to change the final drive to increase the torque a bit more, acceleration but obviously at the cost of top end speed.

Really tempted to go for the 4.928 Final Drive as below, I entered in all the ratios to show the before and after graph if I was to change the final drive and it would be very liveable for road use for me.

I mainly use the car on B-roads etc. which this would suit very well.

Managed to wangle 20% discount should I wish to go ahead with it and my dad will do the labour free of charge.

Blue Line obviously being the proposed final drive. Could in theory push my torque up to 450 which would make a massive difference.

http://s22.postimg.org/jeqsqa8gx/Screen_Shot_2014_01_08_at_11_15_40.png

http://www.tegiwaimports.com/images/a/mfactory-final-drive-gear-mitsubishi-evo-4-5-6-3261-1l.jpg

Jamie

8th January 2014, 12:15

Nice Evo mate,

I'm not for or against the bonnet raisers really, I personally wouldn't have them but I don't think they look terrible.

Good fast progress, I bet it's rather savage @380 bhp!

matt_vtr_15a

8th January 2014, 12:43

Nice Evo mate,

I'm not for or against the bonnet raisers really, I personally wouldn't have them but I don't think they look terrible.

Good fast progress, I bet it's rather savage @380 bhp!

Cheers mate,

Pulls much much stronger I must say, the torque helps to, I misread my printout, it's around 415-420lb ft of torque at the moment will get a graph up soon.

Bonnet raisers were just an off the cuff thing, they make it look more aggressive imo.

I'm removing them this weekend though I think, the map sensor and wiring is right at the back of the engine bay, i've been checking it to ensure it isn't getting wet with all this rain and it isn't, but it is not something worth risking so the bonnet raisers are coming off.

matt_vtr_15a

8th January 2014, 20:30

Just thought I'd bang up the graph, the blip at 3800rpm couldn't be mapped out, it was present on the previous graph when put on dyno by the last owner. Can't feel it on the road so can't say I'm too fussed about it, just baffling as to what it may be.

http://s30.postimg.org/vde1e4rm9/20140108_202048.jpg

matt_vtr_15a

10th January 2014, 13:32

Booked on for Bedford GT next weekend and i think my cousin is bringing his vts track toy....

Might see some of you fuckers there if anyone is going?

And recieved my mlr calender and most recent evolution issue, tasty!

http://s22.postimg.org/7u0xij93l/IMG_20140110_135554.jpg

http://s30.postimg.org/681pnd6gh/IMG_20140106_095439.jpg

wullvfr

10th January 2014, 15:43

matt_vtr_15a

10th January 2014, 15:55

How far you going with this mate,in terms of end power both bhp/torque???

380bhp must be lively on the roads but still useable,what would you class as still useable but not OTT?

Changing the final drive sounds beneficial,its not like you'll miss the top end especially as you say on B roads.

I wonder how much quicker it will feel to 100?

Well they claim it raises torque by 10-15% so final drive alone could see the car at 450 torque + and rise thru the gears very quickly, very handy to power out of corners etc. but less handy for terminal speed which is not something that interests me. It's not like it would hit top speed down a drag strip so it's no massive bother.

I was having this very discussion with Lee who remapped my car, he is heavily involved in the sprint series which are road going cars which drive to track, partake in the series and drive home... This is what i'm aiming for with my car

Majority of these cars run between 450/500bhp which is perfect for fast road competitive use.

To reach those figures is fairly easy, cams and bigger turbo.

The standard transmission can cope with that figure to and I have a twin plate clutch which suits this figure also. I would just need to do a drop in/rod job or fully forge the engine.

Fortunately I have the 5speed box which is much stronger than the 6speed and capable of 500bhp all day long.

hard_corejoeboy

10th January 2014, 15:58

Bedford GT will be a great circuit for your car I think.

I wouldn't go much more power wise. 380bhp is enough to see off 'supercars' and be wary cos the Evo crowd tend to go mental and spend fortunes on their cars. If I were you I'd get it super grippy and uber reliable over power chasing. Would love an evo just couldn't justify the running costs vs the performance.

hard_corejoeboy

10th January 2014, 15:59

...and then you posted that while I was typing lol

matt_vtr_15a

10th January 2014, 16:40

...and then you posted that while I was typing lol

Haha...

Yeah I know what you mean, and for now it's more than enough... but it's something i'm lining up for 2015....

Definitely going forward with the final drive as I can see that as a huge benefit, suspension wise it's set up well. Fully polybushed and has a half decent set of coil overs which have been fast road/track geo set-up.

I could upgrade the coil overs to some Ohlins in the future but no need to for now as it does handle lovely...

It's all tyres up also and the brakes are upgraded, more of a matter of enjoying it this year and then look ahead for performance/handling next year as it's massive money to upgrade either now.

matt_vtr_15a

10th January 2014, 19:57

Ordering some harnesses this weekend, may start with just one for myself initially as its purely for function, going around a corner earlier and found myself clinging to my seat so not to fall out...

Someone on MLR has plenty of brand new ones at a good price.

Decision is though... green or black? I need to order them tonight and can't decide??

http://site.icbmotorsport.com/Takata/Takata_Drift_III_Bolt_On_70001-0_Black_Pic1.jpg

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/70000-H2-Drift-3-Snap-Green.jpg

matt_vtr_15a

10th January 2014, 20:28

Tooo slow... went black.

josh11490

10th January 2014, 23:29

Every time I see an update on this car it just makes me want an evo, ill get there oneday haha

Good to see the upgrades coming fast.

JA1987

11th January 2014, 00:14

Tooo slow... went black.

Good choice, id have gone black aswel.

matt_vtr_15a

11th January 2014, 00:14

Every time I see an update on this car it just makes me want an evo, ill get there oneday haha

Good to see the upgrades coming fast.

I need to stop soon it's getting rather expensive! Fresh service this weekend though, fit harness when it arrives next week and then I'm banning myself from buying anything for a month.

Have a couple of parts lay around that I still need to fit to so should keep me happy.

Sold the maf and and ecu for a combined total of £400 will put that in the evo savings jar for the wheels to be freshly powdercoated with some left over towards some new rubber for summer so it's looking tip top and fresh.

Still undecided on whether to powdercoatthem gloss white or go anthracite...

josh11490

11th January 2014, 03:29

I need to stop soon it's getting rather expensive! Fresh service this weekend though, fit harness when it arrives next week and then I'm banning myself from buying anything for a month.

Have a couple of parts lay around that I still need to fit to so should keep me happy.

Sold the maf and and ecu for a combined total of £400 will put that in the evo savings jar for the wheels to be freshly powdercoated with some left over towards some new rubber for summer so it's looking tip top and fresh.

Still undecided on whether to powdercoatthem gloss white or go anthracite...

Easy to start spending silly on motors like this, I'm so jealous of some of the builds I've read haha

Black harness is a good choice, everyone has green takatas.

Have read but can't remember, have you stripped this out, so no back seats etc?

matt_vtr_15a

11th January 2014, 09:15

Easy to start spending silly on motors like this,lds I've read haha

Black harness is a good choice, everyone has green takatas.

Have read but can't remember, have you stripped this out, so no back seats etc?

I have done a little flop flop I stripped out the back seats and door cards but then had to do an airport run so it got put back to standard.

When the harness arrive I'll decide what route I'll go down. I'm going to get it weighed this weekend or early next week as well as it stands. I then want to set a weight target and go for that but without going OTT.

hard_corejoeboy

11th January 2014, 09:28

I say strip it all out and go hard_coremattboy on it!

D4MJT

11th January 2014, 10:21

I'm going to get it weighed this weekend or early next week as well as it stands. I then want to set a weight target and go for that but without going OTT.

When I first read that I thought you'd written "I'm going to weigh it in this weekend"...

:wall::wall:

I'd go anthracite for the wheels I think dude, don't know why but I don't really like white against silver cars, darker is better I reckon.

matt_vtr_15a

11th January 2014, 11:15

I say strip it all out and go hard_coremattboy on it!

you change your mind on my progress thread as much as you do your own!

You was against it last time I'm sure ha.

When I first read that I thought you'd written "I'm going to weigh it in this weekend"...

:wall::wall:

I'd go anthracite for the wheels I think dude, don't know why but I don't really like white against silver cars, darker is better I reckon.

Always been in this mindset myself and anthracite has always been my preferred choice of wheel colour.

The white wheels are an absolute bitch to keep clean as well as the pads chuck out some right dust, got a quote lined up for powdercoating them but it means being without my car for 2days and in the hands of a garage which is something I really don't like the thought of. Alternatively try line up another set of wheels in the meantime but not exactly cost effective.

I'm more concerned as a result of seeing recent video footage of a guys evo in a garages hands. He had it all on a datalogger and all recorded rather shocking to watch!!

Yates

11th January 2014, 14:18

No places offer same day down there? Wheel specialist do up here and south

matt_vtr_15a

11th January 2014, 14:58

No places offer same day down there? Wheel specialist do up here and south

The really good place around here doesn't. Seen a lot of their work and it's spot on.

If I dropped it off thursday morning for example I'd have it back friday afternoon.

- remove tyres
- prep and make good all 4 alloys
- powdercoat
- refit tyres
- balance

Not sure if it takes longer to allow drying time or not but the two places I want to use both require the same time period. Not powdercoating till spring so I'll sort something but don't fancy leaving the car overnight.

MJ05LLY

11th January 2014, 18:55

The really good place around here doesn't. Seen a lot of their work and it's spot on.

If I dropped it off thursday morning for example I'd have it back friday afternoon.

- remove tyres
- prep and make good all 4 alloys
- powdercoat
- refit tyres
- balance

Not sure if it takes longer to allow drying time or not but the two places I want to use both require the same time period. Not powdercoating till spring so I'll sort something but don't fancy leaving the car overnight.

Powder coat is baked on.
Its the prep work that takes time. Sandblasting wheels etc I'm guessing.

welshpug

11th January 2014, 19:58

get a spare set of wheels you can roll on, or even just something so you can park it up and drop the wheels off.

matt_vtr_15a

12th January 2014, 14:32

Never even thought about it but my dad can match me up a set. He has the right offset rims available and can just bang a mix and match set of tyres on.

Wonmt be driving it on the road so at least it can just sit on my drive until the wheels are done. Got a couple months to sort out a set anyway :y:

get a spare set of wheels you can roll on, or even just something so you can park it up and drop the wheels off.

Now I have purchased the 4 point harness I'm going to remove the back seats and shed some weight again. I'm not gutting everything but I'm going to slowly but surely shed some weight from the car that I don't need.

Want to keep it nice and tidy though, don't want it to look like bare shell at the rear.

My main aim is reaching 300bhp per tonne which means i need to get down to 1265kg. Easily done if I hack at the doors considering each front door weights 26kg and the rear doors weigh 22kg each. Just something I need to pay some more thought to before I bite the bullet.

wullvfr

12th January 2014, 15:18

Did you get it weighed?

matt_vtr_15a

12th January 2014, 15:31

Did you get it weighed?

My cousin was up to neck in it and when he was free i was busy.

He's on lates next week so going to drive over after work and get it weighed on his break :y:

Should have it weighed on Tues/Weds Night :y:

hard_corejoeboy

12th January 2014, 16:01

matt_vtr_15a

12th January 2014, 16:24

Yeah I always change my mind at least with yours you've been rolling round in it since you got it. I've driven mine ONCE lol

Its like do I just get it done to a cheap and fun standard or go all out and have a wicked result at the end!

Im not sure I've driven anything 4wd for quite some time would you say its a good thing or do people ever make their evo's solely rwd?

That's why i'm going down the weight loss route, any further investments in the car are very expensive.

Weight reduction is free to an extent then that gets rather expensive if you start replacing with lightweight parts. I'd rather not cut any corners so I'm saving up on the side for the future if I plan to go down any avenues.

I don't believe the time attack cars run rwd, think they stick to the awd system to lay the power down. I think it's only of benefit if you wish to drift but if i'm honest it's not something i've looked into.

Now I'm used to this car it's pretty fun, you can get the backend out nicely as the majority of the power is sent to the rear wheels anyway, but then the front wheels pull you out of any sideways action before it gets far too leary.

I suppose the main downfall with the awd system is the horses lost from the fly to the wheels in comparison to just fwd/rwd systems.... but you can lay everyone of those horses down very effectively.

matt_vtr_15a

13th January 2014, 08:52

Benefit of having a four door family saloon, parent and child parking... anti dent protection

http://s21.postimg.org/p8bdhfw7r/IMG_20140113_084937.jpg

hard_corejoeboy

13th January 2014, 11:03

I hope you have a child! Does me in when I see people without kids park in those spaces!

Giraffe

13th January 2014, 11:05

Benefit of having a four door family saloon, parent and child parking... anti dent protection

http://s21.postimg.org/p8bdhfw7r/IMG_20140113_084937.jpg

Unless some parent who missed out on the space sees you getting out without kids... Then you may get no dents, but some flat tyres. I know my Dad slashed someone's tyres for parking in a disabled bay before when they clearly weren't! (his wife is disabled, apparently)

Brettles1986

13th January 2014, 11:25

If you don't have a child seat in the car I wouldn't be happy.

That's how I judge it anyway.

On that note I need a new car, 3 kids in a Kalos is hard work.

matt_vtr_15a

13th January 2014, 12:28

If you don't have a child seat in the car I wouldn't be happy.

That's how I judge it anyway.

On that note I need a new car, 3 kids in a Kalos is hard work.

Disabled spaces gripe me much more as giraffe said.

But no had to pick up my cousin and her baby on the way to work this morning... fuck me having kids.

The baby seat is not always an obvious thing though, her kid is still very young and has a proper baby seat that it's carried about in so no obvious child presence in the car now.

Having said that when I return to my car after work I won't have a child, and will look like an inconsiderate git which is something i have just thought about ha!

matt_vtr_15a

13th January 2014, 13:24

Very minor but recieved these today which I'll bang on, the normal bulbs in them are very dull and poor for night time driving. Hoping these will just give a better beam as a direct replacement as I can't be doing with a light conversion and mass of extra wiring etc.

See what they look like and hopefully not too blue or there being binned.

The 'xenon ultimate effect' gives me zero confidence though I must say... found some PIAA replacement bulbs if there chav looking

http://s9.postimg.org/xas6t6w9r/IMG_20140113_132047.jpg