Planning custom boot build today. Queries

[Salmon1]

Planning doing a custom boot build today.


BUT i would first like to know if its worth the hassle/cost.

I am not building a show car.

I just want some loud tunes to pump out, that sound good on very high volume and dont go all fuzzy.

All my mates say a top quality head unit and some VERY good quality 6x9's and some 13cm fornt door speakers would give me what i want without sacrificing the HUGE wieght penalty.

BUT..

Basically i want to run 2 10" Alpine subs with an Alpine amp.

BUT what i need to know is how much do you reckon ill be paying to get the following wired up-

Alpine Head Unit
Alpine 10" Sub (x2)
Alpine amp
Alpine 13cm Front Speakers (x2)

I can have everything ready and i could do front speakers myself as its just swapping wires over form old to new.

also i can do headunit. (infact do amp etc, go straight tio head unit?)

So really i need to know roughly how much to wire to subs to an amp, and back to the head unit?

[YM03]

best thing to do is hit your mate over the head with a soggy kippa lol, for recomending 6x9's, have a read of the 6x9 thread at top of page to see why

if you go out and buy the iso connection for head unit, all you have to do is take yours out, fit cable and re fit thats the head unit

have you got the sub box, and the cabling for the amps? as if you pay some one to fit the stuff I'd say it would cost roughly £50 up over, then you would have a bill for all parts, personaly I would fit it your self, and there is plenty of threads on this site telling you how to

[hesslevtr]

whats your budget

[Salmon1]

Budget-

Head unit- £170 (i genuinely just want something to pump out tunes, not bothered bout loads of high tech unneeded crap)

Subs- £200 For both

amp- £150

Front Speakers- £80

Fitting- £100

I cant actually believe im gonna spend £600 odd quid to listen to music :O

I dunno if id rather have some Corbeua adjsutable buckets and a rear leather retrim and a nice headunit.

hmm.. ive got some thinking to do.

[dannyjay]

I payed 120£ for my sound system, and its awesome in my eyes.

Although my girlfriend did pay £300 towards it, hahaha!

[DaveWard]

Budget-

Head unit- Spend £100 on a headunit as it will do everything you need and give you a bigger budget to play with for other stuff

Subs- Spend £100 and buy just one sub its easier and cheeper to power then

amp- £200 will get you a decent 4 channel amp. Even better spend £270 and get the fantastic Audison SRx3

Front Speakers- The Boston Accustics S50s @£90 are tested and proven to sound great

Fitting- A shop will charge more then £100 to fit a full system I would expect double that. So just install it yourself

Other costs £60 for wiring and a sub box

[Salmon1]

What about, decent head unit, Boston fronts, and some 6x9's. nothing else???

[DaveWard]

Theres a thread dedicated to 6x9s I aint going to tell you how shit they are just read that.

Much better off with the way I stated before. If there was a better way I would hoave told you it!

[Salmon1]

Right ive got the perfect build.

It wont sound out of this world. Itll be good.

It wont be loudest on planet. Itll be loud enough.

It wont brake the bank. Itll be within my means.

Its not all top of range. Its alpine, i love alpine.

6x9's- all my mates have em and they sound good and look good.

Alpine Head Unit (£115)- http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product.asp?product=20753

Alpine 2-way Amp(£130)- http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product.asp?product=19231

Alpine 12" Sub(£90)- http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product.asp?product=20238

Alpine S 6x9's (£65)-http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product.asp?product=21529

Alpine S 13cm Front speakers(£40)- http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product.asp?product=20254


Anyone got any MAJOR problems with any of above???

I know some dont like 6x9's and im gonna leaveem out to start with and see what its like without em before i order them.

is it a good budget set up that'll work well together?.

Alpine is what i want.

[DaveWard]

Why limit yourself to one brand? I would never do that unless I was being sponsored. Even then it would have to be a brand like Focal, Diamond, DLS, Genesis etc. All that your doing is reducing the quaility of the system that you get. Dont get me wrong Alpine do make some great car audio gear but in some parts of it you can get better for similer money.

As for the 6x9s thig have a good read of the thread. Then if you want to reduce the quaility of your system even more buy some.

A better sugestion would be to listen to some actual quaility sound systems in cars. Not Boy racer style ones. You will find that virtully no quaility system runs rear speakers at all.

If you do have to have rear speakers spend as little on them as possible and spend as much as you can on the fronts. Remember the to sound good the sound needs to come from the front of the car not the back. Take a look in the mirror at your ears they should cup to the front if your a nomal human.

[Salmon1]

i dont think u get me mate.

To be honest, i have no shame in a admitting i will be a typical boy racer.

Crusing about city centres with birds and mates in the car.

Its what being 17's about TO ME.

thats why i want a systems, thats loud, looks good, and is VALUE FOR MONEY for my intended use.

Buying top of range gear is NOT.

Can you just answer my Question mate, will all that gear above work well together.

As for Same brand.

I lvoe alpine, it all matches, will look good together, im happy :) .

[Salmon1]

ohh do i need any other components such as capcitors or tweeters, i have no clue what either is, just heard them mentioned.

Ohh and ill be doing the boot build myself, MDF, then covered in leather.

[DaveWard]

I just dont see the point in what your tring to do. I am trying to help you get the best you can for your money. At the end of the day i can only advise you. I personally dont see the point in spending money on something when you can get better for the same money. But its your money not mine. So do what you want.

One last tip remember you listen to audio not look at it. The more people that know its there the more chance of one day you come back to your car and it wont be there no more.

Take a look at the A proper install thread a bit further down on here. Thats my old install and even my closest friends and family never knew it was in my car!

[Salmon1]

yeh but i dont want subtle, fuck subtle lol

look mate, i know you know LOOODS more and have probly forgotten more than i know, but i know what i want to do mate.

I just need to know that it will all work well together and all the ratings will suit each other, for example is the amp powerful enough for the sub etc...


Thanks buddy

[DaveWard]

What diffrence does it make if it will or wont? You will only buy Alpine and wont listen anyway.

Good luck with the system. I aint wasting my time trying to help you no more theres no point if your not willing to listen!

[Jonny_H]

i paid £350 full system. Got sony mp3 head unit, pheonix gold amp, 2 sony xplod subs, and some 6x9's.

subs rnt the best, but can pump out some serious bass. 6x9's r ok, but if i would have known how crap 6x9's in general r back then i would have got sum component speakers or summat insted.

600 is alot to spend. u cud get sum mega stuff with that.

Look on www.ebay.com (american) can get stuff alot cheaper even with delivery. have a look

[DaveWard]

American import stuff gets taxed at 5% then 17.5% VAT is added though.

[Jonny_H]

i also made my own custom boot build ended up costing about £40 n for the money well worth it, i got loads more boot space and it looks s*** hot. ask if u wanna see any pics

[Jonny_H]

didnt know that, i jus know my mate got a jvc dvd headunit for 300 n over here at the time they were 800 in halfords

[Salmon1]

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please mate, just tell me if the stuff will work together??

Im begging, im clueless and need to know itll all work.

Whether you agree with me or not, would you like to see someone waste £600??

[Jonny_H]

ye that stuff will work together mate. but u will need more than a 2 channel amp if u want to amp ur door speakers. poss look at a more powerful amp.

N if u jus wanna get a decent system without braking the bank dont go for alpine... they a good make n everything but can be pricy for what u want. Sony might b ur best bet, or mix n match diff makes.

200 for 2 subs is pretty dear as well. cud get sum decent 12" subs for about 50-80 ish.

Also look at a vibe package from halfords. round about 250 i think but they can produce sum bass! trust.

also when ur cruisin round town, jus take the birds leave ur mates :D:

[Davekelz]

Salmon why don't you just listen to the guy, he obviously knows what he's talking about. He's trying to give you advice and save you from wasting your money on things you don't need. He obviously doesn't want to see you waste £600, which is why he's telling you that theres no reason to fork out on the 6x9's!

[Jonny_H]

yep, i wouldnt bother with 6x9's there only good if you havent got a sub jus for a bit of bass n volume. but ur obviously getting a sub or 2. so upgrade ya door speakers, component speakers etc. to bring the vocals up a bit.

[YM03]

I'd rather take the advice of some one in the know, buy the stuff recomended
and have a much better sounding and louder system

just my opinion

[CSVTR]

Firstly if I was to have any sort of choice I would choose Dave's Recommendations over A full Alpine system... but by the sounds of it you are not going to be swayed, so rather than see you ignore advice completely and waste your money I am going to go ahead and pick you out products from the Alpine range.

NOTE: It is not a good idea to buy from Car Audio Centre, do a search on the name and you will realise that even though they advertise products from manufactuers such as Alpine, very rarely do people see the products. Some time down the line after ordering you will probably get an e-mail/phone call saying they are not in stock and they will try and sell you some "In-Phase" gear instead, which happens to be their own personal brand.

Head Unit (£139.99) - CDA-9852RB (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4726)

Amplifier (£179.99) - MRD-M605 (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4399)

Subwoofer (£99.99) - SWS-1222D (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=3674)

Component System (£64.99) - SXS-1357 (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=2751)

Wiring Kit (£59.99) - CT3514 0AWG (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4191)

Ideally you should amp' the components speakers, if you choose to go this route, then change the mono amplifier (MRD-M605) for a 4 channel amplifier (MRV-F345 (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4030)).

That leaves you either £65 or £45 for MDF to build the install and the box. But again even over this install I would choose Dave's suggestions, you money, you choice at the end of the day.

[CSVTR]

In regards to my above statement, I have just noticed an Alpine package deal. You could remove the Sub, Amp and wiring kit and relpace them with this Alpine Type-R Pack (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4813).

Not only is it better equipment, you get a semi-decent box, and you saved £40. That way you could also upgrade the Components to these (SPR-17LS (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4123))

You'll still have £50 left over for extra MDF.

This choice is only possible though if you choose not to amp your components.

[Andyt]

I hate to piss on your fire boys, but 6x9's are shite and that's all. As for 2 subs for £200, that's cheap in my eyes...why don't you have a look at some of the JL or XXX equipment to get an idea of price. <edit> and quality

[Jonny_H]

u gotta remeba tho, he jus wants summat that produces alot of noise when he's cruisin, probably doesnt want top end stuff. best thing to do.. get a shit hot, good make, really high power amp. n 2 good high power subs but not top end stuff. this way the subs will get alot of power and produce bass.


1's i am looking into upgrading to are rockford fosgate PUNCH P2's or P3's. do a search n look ... they r good.

[Andyt]

Fairplay, if all you want is loud bass, why not just buy some JBL stuff or similar, possibly wont last too long though.

[Salmon1]

Thanks so much CSVTR, instead of slating my ideas youve built on them and made me see sense.

If i could give out goo drep, i would.

As for your choices-

Im gonna go for that Headunit, The £109 Type-R Components, The Type R 12" Sub, The 4Way amp so i can amp the somponents aswell and the suggested wiring kit.

thanks a lot mate.

P.s- MDF- i get as much as i like free. Dads mates are joiners.

Im not even 17 for exactly 8weeks today, so gives me time to do a build and wire it all up myself.

honestly though i cannot thank you enough mate.

[CSVTR]

Last tip, make sure you get the Dual 2 version of the Type R as apposed to the Dual 4.

[Davekelz]

As in this one (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4573) and not this one (http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4574)?

[Saxo-Slag]

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please mate, just tell me if the stuff will work together?? yes it will

Im begging, im clueless and need to know itll all work. You have just had the best advice you could ever listen to. Trust me mate i have do the same as Dave said and it show the crap out off the boy racers and sound wicked.

Whether you agree with me or not, would you like to see someone waste £600?? Its your money to waste mate. You are just helping yourself do it by not listening

RANT OVER.

[BBL]

lol reading this forum has all looked liek handbags and ten paces for me lmfao