VTR /newbie /advice

[Urban]

Hey all...new to this forum..liking it alot! Im think of changing my car atm which is a 1997 clio 1.2 8v up 2 a VTR saxo.... I need some advice on running costs of the motor itself...what is it like to drive on the whole...any problems i should look out for myself..... I have spotted a VTR in my area..where i live..ph1 model 99...with 71 k on the clock..it has been lowered on belstine shocks and comes with 16in oz saturns! what price should i be paying for something like this? I hope to own one of these s motor in the next few weeks...so some advice on your knowledge of the VTR would be greatful..hope i havent got the wrong section! thx

[b0t13]

known problems are the gearbox, head gasket, clutch

these are costly so check them out before u buy

[Urban]

Would any one know how much the 1999 rg VTR saxo...71 or 77k cant rem exactly between the two millages + 16inc oz saturns + belstine shocks lowered 60 i think...a rough price guide...he is look 2800 which i think is alot of money for it! when i only have top budget of 2.6k! but do want to get leather retrim ! asap!

[pug_boe]

if you look in our for sale section that may be able to help you as a guide - to be honest it depends what condition its in too - it could be ragged

welcome to the site too

[Urban]

http://www.reallymeansounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41819


thts the link to the VTR can you plz check it out and tell me what you think! thx making yous all do the work... i jus want a VTR tht runs and i can adore!

[James]

I would probally offer him about 1900, considering it's age.. I would also make sure its had a cam belt change etc before buying it.

[Urban]

even with the oz saturns? 1.9...i know its a bit old and over pricey but those rims cost 700 quid :S...but i will best go and view just need 2 know some price that yous paid etc...just dont want 2 pay 2 much etc or buy the wrong 1!

[b0t13]

modifications dont increase car value, they can even devalue it as it gives the impression its 'ragged'

and i wouldnt pay anything over £2300 no matter what condition it is!

[pug_boe]

my rims on my pug cost £450 but the car still only sold for £800

if you wait until the morning more people will be here to give you advice

failing that - cloud is on the right track

[James]

Any modification to a car will normally devalue it, You lower a car for handling and looks. Now if you want better handling it usually means your driving fast... If he's asking for extra money for the alloys he is a very blind man... Most people tend to want original alloys therfor wont pay any extra for them.

He may say the condition is mint but the thing with cars is you cannot tell how good the condition is until you drive it yourself for a couple of miles.. For all you know if hes been driving it bad the gear box may be on the way out. Get a test drive on it though, saxo's are getting cheaper and cheaper on the market... its a great time to buy and a shit time to sell, so dont offer him over the odds... I'd offer him 2000 max if you really want it and see what he says. I cant personally see him getting more..

[pug_boe]

considering you got something like this in the for sale section

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45826

then you can afford to change the alloys

Id go for just standard vtr alloys - subtle is the way forward apparently

[hesslevtr]

2800 is very expensive

yatesy was/is selling avery nice and reelly well looked afer saxo for just a bit more then that that was on a 51 plate and 30 somthing thousand miles

id say no way more then 2000

id just look at usual car problems

make sure theres no signs of crash damage

[Scott]

im guessing around 80mm all round. (2 clicks at torsion bar....55mm springs wit a coil off


Not with a very very large barge pole

[Leo]

Car looks nice yes but is very overpriced

[ricksimmonds]

if i was u id look on autotrader u could get a really nice vtr even a ph.2 one for 2600. Personally i wouldnt wanna buy a modified car with this sort of mileage, i can just see it having loads of problems. Buy a standard one then u will feel really proud wen u do wot u want to it!

[sassysax]

Why not buy a standard VTR then do sum subtle mods to it.. The way things are going with saxo's at the moment you will b able to pick one up cheap enough to still have some cash left over to spend on the car.. and it's more likely to be in better condition :)

[Urban]

I think i may wait till this thursday until the new trader comes out, and see what is about....It is hard to find a VTR with low millage in N.ireland tht is mint for round 2.5g! usually all with 60+...but when i get my hands on 1 ill be sure to post her up here! thx for the help pps on this....!!!!