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Brettles1986
12th June 2014, 09:15
My daughter currently has her mums surname, now when we had her she agreed she would have my name and then changed her mind last minute, I was left with no option.
Now she is getting married next year and I don't want my daughter taking on her mums new name as she is not biologically anything to do with the family her mum is marrying into.
Do you think it's likely I am going to have to go to court to get her name changed back (as I doubt her mum is going to willingly agree to the change).
I am on the birth certificate btw.
Quick
12th June 2014, 09:18
Citizen Advice would be a good start!
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/relationships_e.htm
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/relationships_e/relationships_birth_certificates_and_changing_your _name_e/changing_your_name.htm
Changing a child’s name
A child’s name can be changed at any time, provided it is not to deceive or defraud another person. There is no legal procedure which must be followed in order to change a child’s name, providing all the people who need to give their consent have done so. The parent simply starts using the new name. A child’s forename or surname can be changed, names can be added or rearranged.
Although there is no legal way to change a child’s name, you may need evidence that a child’s name has been changed (see under heading Evidence of change of name). However, the details on a child’s birth certificate cannot be changed, except in limited circumstances.
For more information about changing a child's details on a birth certificate, go to the UK Deed Poll Service at www.ukdps.co.uk.
If you are a child or young person under 16 your consent does not have to be given for your name to be changed. However, if you object to your name being changed you can apply for a court order to prevent the change, provided the court is satisfied that you have sufficient understanding of what is involved.
As a child or young person under 16 you cannot change your surname without your parent’s consent.
Once a child’s name has been changed it can be used for all purposes, such as starting school and registering with a GP. However, evidence may be required (see under heading Evidence of change of name).
Who can change a child’s name
Where only one parent or person has parental responsibility for a child, that person can lawfully change the child’s name. Where two or more people have parental responsibility for the child, one of them can lawfully change the child’s name if all the others agree. Such agreements do not need to be in writing.
If there is a child arrangements order in force, a child’s name cannot be changed without the written agreement of anyone else who has parental responsibility or the permission of the court.
For more information on child arrangements orders, see Ending a marriage, Ending a relationship when you're living together or Ending a civil partnership.
This means that where the parents are or have been married, neither can change the child’s name without the consent of the other parent. If the parents have not been married, the mother can change the child’s name without the father’s consent unless he has acquired parental responsibility through agreement or by a court order.
For more information about parental responsibility, see Children at the end of your relationship in Ending a relationship when you're living together or Children at the end of a civil partnership in Ending a civil partnership.
Quick
12th June 2014, 09:19
Or even talk to your baby mama!!
D4MJT
12th June 2014, 09:28
My daughter currently has her mums surname, now when we had her she agreed she would have my name and then changed her mind last minute, I was left with no option.
Now she is getting married next year and I don't want my daughter taking on her mums new name as she is not biologically anything to do with the family her mum is marrying into.
Do you think it's likely I am going to have to go to court to get her name changed back (as I doubt her mum is going to willingly agree to the change).
I am on the birth certificate btw.
How old is your daughter?
Brettles1986
12th June 2014, 09:29
How old is your daughter?
It depends what you are asking for? :p
If it's for Muz ... fuck off.
Otherwise, she is 8 this December.
D4MJT
12th June 2014, 09:34
It depends what you are asking for? :p
If it's for Muz ... fuck off.
Otherwise, she is 8 this December.
LOL
Fair enough, I was thinking if she was like 13/14+ it would be worthwhile asking her what she thought the whole name thing. 8's a bit young like.
CAB as stated for your first port of call then I think chap.
Nik_L
12th June 2014, 19:13
If your ex goes ahead and changes your daughters name to that of what her new surname will be, she is an utter cunt.
Ross
13th June 2014, 08:55
This is how I ended up with a double barrelled surname. Mother wanted me to keep her name going as she was the last of the line, and my father obviously wanted me to have his surname too. So I got both.
Would that be a compromise for you guys? Double barrel it up.
Brettles1986
13th June 2014, 08:59
This is how I ended up with a double barrelled surname. Mother wanted me to keep her name going as she was the last of the line, and my father obviously wanted me to have his surname too. So I got both.
Would that be a compromise for you guys? Double barrel it up.
Not for me. She is currently a Pimm. Her brother is a Pimm-Silk and I am an England. I am her father so as tradition goes, children should have their fathers name.
My concern is that my ex will become a Silk, the son will be a Silk as well most likely and then my daughter will be a Pimm. If she becomes an England at least then she knows that the name comes from her dad like it does with most children.
I am and always will be a big part of her life so there is no reason to not having me name.
I also worry about when she is in school and children have their fathers surname and she doesn't.
D4MJT
13th June 2014, 09:05
Does everyone in walesland have comedy surnames, or is it just you lot?
Giraffe
13th June 2014, 09:07
I know it's no laughing matter, but I'm laughing at all this Pimm/Silk/England stuff.
Just go triple barrelled? England-Pimm-Silk. Sounds like a funky cocktail.
D4MJT
13th June 2014, 09:07
Also, for the love of god, have a kid with your mrs and give it a double-barreled surname!
Junior England-English!!!
Giraffe
13th June 2014, 09:10
England-Pimm-Silk-English.
What a surname.
chompy
13th June 2014, 09:13
My two daughters have double-barrelled surnames, but if we ever had a son I've made it 100% clear that he will have my surname and nothing else.
It's not fair to drag the kids into the whole relationship changing and name changes etc. Tell her to stop being a cunt and ruining the kids lives.
D4MJT
13th June 2014, 09:16
What about changing your own surname to something comedy?
Brett Poontang?
That would make for immense double-barreled surnames in future too.
Junior English-Poontang
Get back Muz, get back!!!
Brettles1986
13th June 2014, 09:41
Also, for the love of god, have a kid with your mrs and give it a double-barreled surname!
Junior England-English!!!
Lol loads of people have said that.
You're all a bunch of cocks!
My surname is fucking legendary, although slightly ironic.
D4MJT
13th June 2014, 09:43
Lol loads of people have said that.
You're all a bunch of cocks!
My surname is fucking legendary, although slightly ironic.
Your surname's the best thing about you! The rest is welsh! :y:
Brettles1986
13th June 2014, 09:53
Your surname's the best thing about you! The rest is welsh! :y:
I agree.
That's what I like about you ... NOTHING!
D4MJT
13th June 2014, 09:54
I agree.
That's what I like about you ... NOTHING!
hahahaha :y:
antoniya818
13th June 2014, 10:08
It depends on the age of the child whether or not you can change her name without going to court.
If you child is younger than 16 years old you have to get a consent from everybody with parental responsibility i.e. the mother, in order to change the child name. However, this is a two way street as your ex-wife can't change the name of the child without having your consent either.
If your daugher is 16 or above she can legally change her name on this website http://www.ukdeedpolloffice.org/.
D4MJT
13th June 2014, 10:11
It depends on the age of the child whether or not you can change her name without going to court.
If you child is younger than 16 years old you have to get a consent from everybody with parental responsibility i.e. the mother, in order to change the child name. However, this is a two way street as your ex-wife can't change the name of the child without having your consent either.
If your daugher is 16 or above she can legally change her name on this website http://www.ukdeedpolloffice.org/.
Welcome to Sax-P :hug:
Brettles1986
13th June 2014, 10:13
My ex wife is 16, can I change her name?
My Son took my surname, I was adamant that he would. Took alot of convincing to get the misses on my side, but it wasnt happening anyother way. I let her have her own way on the first name and other bits so the surname was my call.
Is it not worth speaking to the ex and seeing what her intentions are with your daughters surname?
MuZiZZle
14th June 2014, 06:10
pics of daughter, and both mums?
and Brets Mum / Dad?
also
I got divorced 2 years ago after a 3 year marriage. My ex wife is 16 in 3 years, can I change her name then?
My Son took my surname, I was adamant
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