View Full Version : Wet sand and polish out scratches - PB, I need you!
srcnix
20th October 2006, 11:57
This is mainly directed at PB but if anyone else can answer, go for it.
I have two scratches on my bonnet and I am looking at getting rid of them, in addition to this some swirl marks.
Now for swirl marks you have told me about the Intensive Polish which is great but for the two scratches on my bonnet I have been told that sanding the scratches down with some wet and dry P1500 sand paper and then using some compound polish to bring the shine back up.
Does this sound like a good idea? And what polish should I use for this? The same as I would for swirl marks?
srcnix
20th October 2006, 11:58
Oh, forgot to mention. I will take pictures of the scratches before I do anything but they aren't that deep at all, just surface scratches.
Clouds_mate
20th October 2006, 12:00
i recken this could of gone into another one of your 5 threads you have in this section on the first page mate.
hesslevtr
20th October 2006, 12:05
i reckon it depends on how deep and how wide the scratches are if that makes sense
get some pics and will help more
srcnix
20th October 2006, 12:07
i recken this could of gone into another one of your 5 threads you have in this section on the first page mate.
Are you ever happy with anyone? As you have said before, if you haven't a comment worth being int he thread, don't post ;) Mwahahahaha!
Will do Hesslevtr, should get some up by the end of the weekend.
Clouds_mate
20th October 2006, 12:07
I just dont see the point in all the same threads. Makes it a pain to search. when it could all be in one place if you get me
Hanuman
20th October 2006, 12:16
sand paper ?
Danr
20th October 2006, 12:33
My mate has just done this on his rs turbo.
He sanded it down using wet dry very soflty with loads of water.
He started bringing back the shine but decided to break it so stopped. It did work but i reckon it would take a while and a respray from a good sprayer would be better.
Why don't you try find a wicked red saxo from aldershot scrappy?
srcnix
20th October 2006, 12:39
My mate has just done this on his rs turbo.
He sanded it down using wet dry very soflty with loads of water.
He started bringing back the shine but decided to break it so stopped. It did work but i reckon it would take a while and a respray from a good sprayer would be better.
Why don't you try find a wicked red saxo from aldershot scrappy?
Well a respray would cost a good couple of hundred quid, would it not?
I don't need to replace the bonnet, not really. The scratches are minor -- at least I think they are. Will let you know and show a pic or two on the weekend. Picking her up tomorrow anyway and how deep the scratch is, is a little faint in my mind.
Clouds_mate
20th October 2006, 12:46
Ok then, I edited it for your sake.
Bonnet respray will not cost a 'couple hundard'.
Why not wait till your get the car so you actually know how bad the scratch is. As said in your other thread by others. Try some of there products that have been mentioned before going to the extreme of sanding your own paintwork.
You could across as not knowing anything about paintwork (like myself) but yet your punching above your weight wanting to sand the bonnet.
Take time and dont worrie. get the car, try some products all else failing get it sprayed.
Im sure landy paided under 100 for a bonnet spray and a dimma grill doing.
saxoash
20th October 2006, 12:51
OOOO Wifies having a bust up lol
Get id dont properly, wet and dry will not get rid of the scratches and it will make it worse.
If you think a pc can take away layers of laqure to remove minor scratches what damage can sang paper do? you will end up rubbing all the laqure away and you will be down to bare paint....Which is a bad thing.
Dotn skimp out, pay the extra and get it done properly
hesslevtr
20th October 2006, 12:54
depending how deep and wide the sctarches are they will come out my using a realy fine grade of wet and dry
but personally its something id never try but its all upto you
get the pics up asap and some people can advise then
best off listening to someone who knows what there on about though
srcnix
20th October 2006, 13:12
Thanks guys, the reason I suggested sand paper is the lack of money to have it resprayed.
Barry123
20th October 2006, 13:18
my advice... grab a shitty panel (off any car) from a scrappy.
Then practice the wet and dry sand papering... use a grade of 1500 :Y:
srcnix
20th October 2006, 13:33
Just got a quote from my local garage for a re-spray. We're talking £200.00 for the bonnet, so rather expensive in my area.
I will try wet sanding it and then polishing it in a couple of weeks time. But until then I meed to know what polisging compound to use and whether I can use the same compound to remove swirl marks, or not.
hesslevtr
20th October 2006, 13:41
Just got a quote from my local garage for a re-spray. We're talking £200.00 for the bonnet, so rather expensive in my area.
I will try wet sanding it and then polishing it in a couple of weeks time. But until then I meed to know what polisging compound to use and whether I can use the same compound to remove swirl marks, or not.
dont have a clue what compound or polish best waiting for polished bliss and as far as i know they wont have time this weekend as there busy
srcnix
20th October 2006, 14:16
Waiting on them and have sent them an email as well for a recommendation.
Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated.
hesslevtr
20th October 2006, 17:07
Waiting on them and have sent them an email as well for a recommendation.
Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated.
like i said mate dont think they will have chance to reply this weekend due to them having an open day so wont have much time for the internet
Danr
20th October 2006, 17:39
Well a respray would cost a good couple of hundred quid, would it not?
I don't need to replace the bonnet, not really. The scratches are minor -- at least I think they are. Will let you know and show a pic or two on the weekend. Picking her up tomorrow anyway and how deep the scratch is, is a little faint in my mind.
Not for the bonnet alone mate. I reckon around £70 or so!
barrett
20th October 2006, 19:18
As said in all your other threads, it is hard to advise without photos of the damage. When you do get pictures, choose on of your threads and post them in that then edit the title, as reposted threads get annoying!!!
Visit www.detailingworld.co.uk to read up about wet sanding, or using a pc.
Polished_Bliss_Detailing
21st October 2006, 15:17
DONT use 1500 sandpaper, that is far too course.
What you need is some 2500 and 3000 UNIGRIT sandpaper (the higher the number the finer the grade of paper).
Here's a link to wetsanding, as it saves me explaining it all over :)
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/showthread.php?t=407
srcnix
23rd October 2006, 08:37
Cheers PB, much appreciated. I awaited your wise words.
PolishedBliss
24th October 2006, 09:51
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Seriously, asking whether or not to wet sand a scratch is virtually impossible to answer without seeing the damage. So get some pics up before we go any further! And for everyone elses benefit, here's the e-mail reply I sent you...
A lot depends on how bad the scratches are, and it's not always easy to tell. The danger with wetsanding is that you won't be able to remove the resultant hazing by hand - I presume you won't be using a machine polisher? If I were you I would consider using Menzerna Power Gloss by hand using the white side of a German Pad, followed by Final Polish II over the whole panel again using the white side of a German Pad (if you have swirls over the whole panel then swap this for Intensive Polish). Only after either Final Polish II or Intensive Polish should you proceed to the Gloss Enhancing Polish and then last step products.
Has a guy on ScoobyNet with a similar problem recently, and the above did the trick brilliantly without the need for wetsanding. :)
srcnix
24th October 2006, 10:14
Thanks PB.
Luckily it looks like the majority of scratches and all swirl marks have been removed by the car dealer. They knew what they were doing when cleaning, it seems.
There are a few scratches that I can see and I will try your method out during spring/summer as right now I am thinking of just getting a nice coat on the poor girl so she can keep warm during the winter.
Thanks agian everyone.
srcnix
24th October 2006, 12:09
PB, now that the sun has come out that little bit more I have noticed some minor scratches (I can't get at the car to get pictures right now).
These scratches seem to be very light so based on what you have told me previously would the Intensive Polish on the German pad and then the gloss enhancing polish work?
PolishedBliss
25th October 2006, 10:40
It would be the place to start for sure. :)
srcnix
25th October 2006, 10:42
Thanks PB, I made an order for some new suds, German applicator pad and the intensive polish you recommended.
Thanks guys!
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