Fiesta ZS or Saxo VTR

[AdamVTRUK]

I no im heading for a huge disagreement, but after i saw how easy saxo's fold in half on inpacts it made me worried.

I dont go crazy and drive sensibly by all means, but as my dad says you have to treat every other road user like there idiots so you have to watch your ass all the time.

so i was thinking about swapping the vtr for a new 06 plate zetec s or maybe the model before seeing on what i can get, also i no there not as fast as the vtr but there not that much behind them and also they are quite abit cheaper on insurance for me for some reason aswell.

I would be interested on people's views on the VTR and the ZS and maybe it can weigh up on what to go with because im not too sure at the minute

Cheers in advance
Adam

[Leo]

yeh that saxo crashing video shocked me also, if it makes you happy go for it.

[Curran]

did you see the crash test for the fiesta, it was very nearly as bad

also the mk6 zetec s is about 3 x more expensive than a vtr

[AdamVTRUK]

no i havent seen that one i will look for it on youtube

[MikeCracknell]

LOL, this WILL start a RIOT!

I have a VTS and a Zetec S (2001, model before current) and to be honest, the VTS is sooooo much better.

The ZS has the looks, and a little more safety, but is slow (not sure compared to a VTR?), and the seats are dam uncomfortable. That dark blue it comes in is pure nice!

Mike

[Curran]

The ZS has the looks. That dark blue it comes in is pure nice!




thats totally down to each persons taste, personally i think the vt* is far better looking

that blue is pure sex though

[AdamVTRUK]

at the moment in time i would have to rob a bank to insure a vts where as the ZS is about 200 cheaper on insurance than my VTR also my VTR only has 15k on the clock its a mk2 on 53 plate in Icelandic Grey so i hope i would get quite a bit of money for it

[Curran]

you would have to rob a bank to buy a mk6 zetec s then cos they are about 8-9k

an 06 plate will be even more, upto 11k

[Danr]

Id say the vtr and zetec-s are extremely similar in speed. It all depends on what you want, go and test drive a few of each and see which one you prefer.

At the end of the day saxo's aren't the safest car in the world but there is still loads on the road so there is a reason why people buy them!

[AdamVTRUK]

ive been offered a mk6 zetec s with 20k on clock on 05 plate in Colorado Red for 7k so its only a bit more than my car

[Curran]

ive been offered a mk6 zetec s with 20k on clock on 05 plate in Colorado Red for 7k so its only a bit more than my car

how much are you wanting to get for yours?

[Saxoladlesta]

Just buy a proper roll cage £400 for your saxo?

[Saxoladlesta]

And a crash helmet?

[AdamVTRUK]

i cant justify having a roll cage in my car

as regards to price i have been told the following word for word

"Basically Black CAP guides your vehicle to make £5495 on the forecourt and will make £3700 on a trade in, but depending on if the dealer etc wants to do a backwards deal you may be able to draw more for it."

[beastgtir]

it depends on what you like fella. speed wise both are near enough the same.
you wont notice the second or 2 difference during normal day to day driving.

[Barry123]

it depends what your priorities are mate

If safety is the big one then out of the two the fiesta is going to let you survive a little bit more... you'll probably still have all your bones smashed up but at least you'll be alive :)

if you prefer road dynamics then the saxo is up there among the some of the best :)

But i know what you mean, the saxo crash certification has me worried.

[VTS_16v_Boy]

Aint that half the fun of drivin the Saxo or come to think of it all frech small cars that you take your life in your own hands everytime you get init?

Ive seen crashes that would make some people stop drivin completely let alone change cars (My mates dad is a fireman & lets say he has a photo album)

If safety really is a big issue then if you can afford it change or buy a Volvo :-)

[Danr]

I suppose the new zetec-s's will probs be a better drive, more economical too!

[James]

Sacrifice fun for safety?

[S34MER]

three letters imo VTR

[Easty]

half the fun of driving a saxo is that you care very little for your own life once you get behind the wheel.

NCAP is for girls.

[mark16v]

All small cars are a dodgey in a bump. Why look on the black side. Enjoy what you want to drive. :ying: :Y:

[doubledavies]

Not forgeting the fact that at the first sight of rain the ford will rust and disinergrate :shock:

[Didz]

Vtr!!!!

[rushy_23]

Personally I think your worrying a bit too much over something minor. If you had babies in the Saxo then I would be able to understand.

From my point of opinion the newer Zetec S isnt as good looking as the previous Zetec S. But they are both really nice cars to drive and they are comfortable to live with.

My Girlfriend has the Older Zetec S, and its a very clean and tidy car. End of the day this is a Saxo website so the views will mostly be biased.

The Zetec S for a 1.6 16v does underperform, everybody knows this. But tbh if you want a drivers car the Zetec S is nippy enough!

I cant comment on Rust issues as im yet to see this but as soon as I do I will let you know lol.

Thats just my insight anyways, dont get me wrong the VTR is a very nice and smart car.
But so is the Zetec S (older model), great fun to drive, does handle well, cheap to insure, well built, doesnt have a flipping torsion bar lol, and if you want it to go faster there is more than enough you can do to it.

[doubledavies]

I cant comment on Rust issues as im yet to see this but as soon as I do I will let you know lol.

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apparently under the kit on the sills and the same story on the arches

[Easty]

apparently under the kit on the sills and the same story on the arches

like the old R5's then, nothing that can't be sorted if you catch it early.

i've always been a fan of the Zetec-s, and very nearly bought one before i saw my VTS.

[Mitchell]

the ride quality will be 500 times better than the saxo.

saxo ride quality is appauling. country road with small bumps or holes make your car bang about like crazy.

even worse if you lower them and saxos only look good when lowered.

id take an escort over my saxo, sooooooooooo sick of it.

they look mint when there lowered and i like other peoples but i hate mine.

[rushy_23]

saxo ride quality is appauling

Dont totally agree with that mate, a nice set of Bilstein Sprintline's will fix it up a treat. Much better ride quality but sticks to the road when you need it too.

Ive found the Zetec S to be quite hard at times in standard form, much harder than standard Saxo suspension.

Just voicing my opinion mate not anything personal lol :p

[Mitchell]

ooo a might try some of these sprintline thingys

bet they cost a bomb :x

id love saxos if the ride quality was just better on dodgy country roads (im on one every day to get to work). hearing the suspension bang and knock every minute puts me in a mood lol

i'll look into them.

[Easty]

ooo a might try some of these sprintline thingys

bet they cost a bomb :x

id love saxos if the ride quality was just better on dodgy country roads (im on one every day to get to work). hearing the suspension bang and knock every minute puts me in a mood lol

i'll look into them.

it's not just mine that rattles and knocks a bit on country roads then ?!

[doubledavies]

^ oh, so my suspension ISNT broken

[rushy_23]

I remember my VTR was terrible, but thats because the rear axle was mashed and bearings gone.
This all we due to the fact the torsion bar wasnt done by a French specialist and plus the Saxo took flight a few times lol.

My pug though sounds solid, only noise i get it when I go over bad bumps and I can hear the bumperstomps smacking.

[AdamVTRUK]

ahhh ive always loved pug 106's but the only one i want is too much on insuranc eif you havent guessed the gti or the raylee s2 look so nice but i havent got a chance in getting a raylee so my hopes in a few years time is to find a decent gti its just the saxo at the minute i love the way it looks but its the little things thats building up on the car that putting it down

[rushy_23]

If your having problems then what I always do is write a list of what needs doing.
Every little thing.

That way you can take one look at it and think to yourself "can it be done, or shall I just get rid of it"

If there are too many things to do then best to get rid of it, I couldnt let go of my Saxo because it was my first car, then ended up breaking it in half anyways lol.

There have been many times Ive been close to selling the GTi, just because ive felt I cant be arsed with the hassle. But decided to see it through each time! Only thing left for me to sort is my rattling exhaust and new ABS sensors.

Only you know your situation mate, do what you knows right!

[Apz1]

Dont totally agree with that mate, a nice set of Bilstein Sprintline's will fix it up a treat. Much better ride quality but sticks to the road when you need it too.

Ive found the Zetec S to be quite hard at times in standard form, much harder than standard Saxo suspension.

Just voicing my opinion mate not anything personal lol :p

What are these bilstein Sprintlines? you got any links?

[rushy_23]

Its a suspension kit lol :P

Only playing with you mate here you go:
http://performance.rallynuts.com/render.asp?doc=/bilstein-sprintline-suspension-kits.htm
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/Bilstein_Sprintline_Kits.htm

[Robbo]

mate what you worrying about what happens when you crash a saxo for? more or less the same happens when you crash a fiesta, there almost as bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWN6JWQXM4M

[Predator_R32]

and now youve set off mike darn it

fords i dont do but its true a lot more safer than saxos

still wouldnt get rid of my vtr well not yet am holding out for the new golf gtis :D:

[rushy_23]

Just looked at the Saxo crash test, thats scary as hell. Not much survival rate... anyone want to buy my Pug? :P

[MikeCracknell]

You set me off, but one thing i will say:

The saxo is FAR better than the Zetec S

[Predator_R32]

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh lol :D:

[rushy_23]

You have got to admit though Mike the Saxo crash is crazy! I see exactly where your coming from now. The whole car crumbles like a Hobnob, no sorry the hobnob has more reinforcement!

[Barry123]

You have got to admit though Mike the Saxo crash is crazy! I see exactly where your coming from now. The whole car crumbles like a Hobnob, no sorry the hobnob has more reinforcement!

A hobnob is made out of biscuit which has far better material properties than paper... which is what the saxo is made out of.

[PRICEY-VTS]

vtr and buy mine link below

[rushy_23]

If my saxo was made out of Hobnob biscuit I would of eaten it personally.

[Mcsvtr]

You have got to admit though Mike the Saxo crash is crazy! I see exactly where your coming from now.!

Did you see the fiesta crash test? i thought there wasnt much in them to be honest, like all small cars, they pretty much fold.

[rushy_23]

The Fiesta was very bad definatly, but if you watch the Saxo one after you can definatly see which one is the worst.
Looked at the X5 crash test after than, the differences are amazing.

Watching the Saxo still hasnt put me off my car, not enough to go out and buy a Fiesta now lol. If i was thinking like that I would just get a bus pass, nothing is knocking over a Travel West Midlands bus!!

[Mcsvtr]

Watching the Saxo still hasnt put me off my car, not enough to go out and buy a Fiesta now lol.
Thats for sure, thats what its all about, even after that, andll the little niggly probs I for sure would still prefer to drive the saxo:Y:

[rushy_23]

Public Transport! Crash and all you got to do is sit there and carry on reading your mag!

[David]

I prefer the ZS tbh!

[Karl]

Just dont crash ;)

[MikeCracknell]

LOL, the 106 is the same as the Saxo = made of paper lol

[Josh_Phipps]

Vtr!!!!!!

[MikeCracknell]

There have been some very valid points raised on here and the thread on ZSOC, you can tell its biased, but I have both, and I prefer SAXOS!

[AdamVTRUK]

i have looked at the crash tests for both Honda civic and 206 are put in the same test as ZS and VTR and they both end up with front end damage no folding of any kind just bonnet crumples thats it infact sod the ZS ill go for the c2 GT 1.6 16v group 6 insurance, sturdy and economical thats a winner in my eyes or maybe the c2 vts 1.6 16v group 8 insurance

[rushy_23]

Yea I checked the 206, that didnt do to bad.

[Missvtr]

Aww no!...not the poor saxo!, you've hardly had that thing for two minutes:upset:

hey!, make it a hand me down for me!:P

[Pickles]

go for the vtr