ok decided on my new setup

[D_G_SAXO]

i have finally decided on what sound system i am getting for my car now i know there is probley better out there but here goes...

pioneer deh-p9800bt headunit

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/25/121/61/DEH-P9800BT/index.html

pioneer ts-c171prs speakers

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/25/131/201/TS-C171PRS/index.html

pioneer ts-w2504spl 10 inch sub

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/25/130/201/TS-W2504SPL/index.html

pioneer prs-d3000spl mono amp

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/25/29/182/PRS-D3000SPL/index.html

pioneer prs-a500 2ch amp

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/25/29/182/PRS-A500/index.html

pioneer cd-ib100 ipod car kit

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/25/38/301/CD-IB100%20II/index.html

let me know what u guys think???

[BBL]

by any chance where you aiming to get all pioneer? lmao

[D_G_SAXO]

because i like the look and have been told thay perform very well thats why mate

[DaveWard]

For that kid of money mate you could get a hell of a lot better. Remember you listen to audio not look at it 99% of the time.

Heres my advice

Spend less on a headunit. Theres no point spending over £400 unless your runing a very high end system.

Components. Go with a dedicated speaker specalist such as DLS, Focal, Seas, Morel. These guys spend a hell of a lot of time and money to make speakers for car use.

Pioneer SPL subs I would not touch with a barge pole

[D_G_SAXO]

why wouldnt u touch them mate god i need help thanks dave lol could u tell me the perfect setup for the money i would have spent on the pioneer mate i want a 10 inch sub a mono amp to power it component speakers and 2 ch amp to power them and headunit..

help

[DaveWard]

Whats the total budget mate before install costs?

[D_G_SAXO]

well i can install it alll mate not to hard max 2 grand without headunit as i have a alpine on at the mo.

so mono amp
2ch amp
10 inch sub
6 inch component speakers

what do u think dave

[DaveWard]

I will put something together tomorrow mate as I aint got time tonight. But I can assure you that what i put togther will sound a lot better then what you had planned! £2k gets you a lot of quaility gear!

[D_G_SAXO]

ok thanks mate will look at the post tomorrow

[BBL]

yes mate i would go for something which would pruduce top knotch sounds rather then looks, what would you rather have???

a. system that looks out of this world and sound sh*te

or

b. system which doesnt look half as good and produces top knotch quality music?

i know wht i would rather go for :P

[D_G_SAXO]

lol i dont think the pioneer will sound shit mate

[DaveWard]

Right I have been thiking hard about this over night and this morning heres what I would spend £2000 on

Amps
DLS A3 (2 channel amp) £600
DLS A6 (Mono amp) £500
Focal 165K3P - 16.5cm 3-way components £650
JL Audio 10W6v2- 10" subwoofer £300

I have heard all these products exept the Focal components but I have heard and installed the 2 way K2P version in a mates car. I also know of a lad thats a UK sound off champion that changed from the top of the range Focal Utopia speakers to the next range down K2P for some reason! If your installing yourself and fancy havig a go with fibreglass then you might aswell fit 3 ways. That you you will have a clearer treble up front.

DLS amps have plenty of power and great SQ. Normally I would have gone for Genesis amps but here mono is over twice the price of the DLS A6!

The JL W6 is proven its been around for a good few years now. I prefer them over the w7 as the voice coil configuration is easier to work with them the w7s odd 3ohm single voice coil. The w6 performs just as well as the w7 till you get to silly volume levels. That you will never need to do anyway. I must admit though I also considered the Diamond Audio M6 sub over this. I had the older m5 it sounded awesome. If space is an issue go for the Diamond over the w6 as it works a lot better in a smaller enclosure.

Yeah I know I have gone £50 over the budget but I may be able to get round that for you!

[Scott]

top system dave. Been looking at some 3 ways myself

[Sean84]

then u should add my Crossfire 30.2 Graphic Eqauliser in the mix and make it sound spot on :)

£200 delivered :)

[D_G_SAXO]

thanks a lot dave i will have to buy it bit by bit but i think i will go for that the amps look tasty as well i think i will go for the k2p focals as i i will be doing the door build myself and think it will be a lot easer to do with only the one speaker and tweeter. and then i will save 200 pounds as well but thanks a lot for that dave i will let u know how i get on with buying the stuff lol may take me a few months but it will be worth it ...

[D_G_SAXO]

this aint the for sale section mate lol

[D_G_SAXO]

to be honest with u i wouldnt know what to do with the Graphic Eqauliser so i think i will leave it out..

[D_G_SAXO]

also dave what about a focal sub or do u think the jl audio is betta???

[DaveWard]

For that price range I personally think that the JL or Diamond is better then the Focal.

If your making speaker builds its realy no harder to make them for 3 ways then it is for 2 way. I just means cutting another mdf ring.

Heres some pics of 3 ways in a Saxo

My old one
http://images9.fotki.com/v175/photos/6/66010/291158/door-vi.jpg?1115202673

Mike Jobsons
http://images19.fotki.com/v22/free/fc37d/5/50012/204689/new006-vi.jpg?1051443004

[Karl]

Mike Jobsons
http://images19.fotki.com/v22/free/fc37d/5/50012/204689/new006-vi.jpg?1051443004

:O Mint!

[D_G_SAXO]

dave u want to do my door builds for me mate at a cost lol ???

[DaveWard]

I wish I could mate. Will at CarworX made me them builds before CarworX started up.

I aint had time to try fibreglassing yet but I am going to give it a go over the next few months as I have just got together the parts for an install in my girlfrineds Seat Arosa. I even bought a set of door cards for it to work on. Once I have dont them I am going to do the boot build. It wont be flash but it will be practical and sound good.

[D_G_SAXO]

i am doing my boot build now just waiting to figer out what sub i want to make it the right size. i hopefully will be going for the jl audio 10 w6. i will give the door builds a go myself.