Death...

[sillysammysnail]

Real morbid but...

when i was younger no one really died jus like my gran and grandad but it was their time to go if ya know what i mean...

but now im gettin older people seem to be dying younger...

in aug a girl i went school with, her 16 yr old sister died in a freak accident when a tree fell on the car she was a passenger in...

in sept my best mates cousin 17 yr old cousin died when she was a passenger in a car that carrered off a dual carriageway...

and last night 2 girls died in a car crash down here, presume they were young because the people survived were 17 and 18, also arrested for dangerous drivin...

it jus makes me think more and more... you've got to live for today becuase you never know when your time is up...

[jay]

i know how you feel budy 3 of my mates all died within the space of two weeks

[sillysammysnail]

its so depressin, they're all the same sorta age and all of em were car related so dont go out much pointlessly in my car now...

[jay]

my mates deaths were all car related aswell

[S34MER]

did you also notice that all of the accidents involved cars! in most cases its young drivers, who think they know how to drive and think they have experience after just 1 year of driving, but then they loose it, usually showing off, and someone ends up worse off!

[sillysammysnail]

yer i know, all the drivers survived though! its not on...

imagine killing one of your passengers and yuo survive thats quite a thing to live with, my mates cousin though, the driver of that car is being done with death by dangerous driving so he will be going prison...

Life ruined forever because you was showin off one time... so not worth it...

[S34MER]

yer i know, all the drivers survived though!

Thats not what you just said mate


in aug a girl i went school with, her 16 yr old sister died in a freak accident when a tree fell on the car she was a passenger in...

in sept my best mates cousin 17 yr old cousin died when she was a passenger in a car that carrered off a dual carriageway...

and last night 2 girls died in a car crash down here, presume they were young because the people survived were 17 and 18, also arrested for dangerous drivin...




imagine killing one of your passengers and yuo survive thats quite a thing to live with, my mates cousin though, the driver of that car is being done with death by dangerous driving so he will be going prison...

Life ruined forever because you was showin off one time... so not worth it...

Good, i hate people who think that driving fast is 'cool', i'll be the first one to admit that i speed from time to time, but never drivelike a TWAT when i have others in the car with me!

[Salmon1]

yeh i was on the m9 the other night, hadjust stripped the car so was caning it.

iv been driving 3 weeks yet looked and the speedo said 133mph.

it was me and the girlfriend.

i thought, what the fuck am i playing at and brought the speed right down to about 90 for the rest of the journey.

then after i dropped her off i went for a real play :) lol

[prez06]

publi forum mate. delete that post

[LittleDude101]

did you also notice that all of the accidents involved cars! in most cases its young drivers, who think they know how to drive and think they have experience after just 1 year of driving, but then they loose it, usually showing off, and someone ends up worse off!

Have to agree... being 18myself with 1 and a half years driving experience, i still dont dare to my limits... i know what i am and am not capable of. Ive been involved in a crash and had my car written off and it was a horrible experience!

It makes ya think... knowing people/of people who die at a young age wants you to live life a bit more

[saxooxas]

he wont be able to get in trouble for that... cant say ive had the death experience yet (touch wood) I suppose it does make you think though, even though its not happened to me.

[S34MER]

he wont be able to get in trouble for that...

he will if they can prove it!!

[bullit]

you wont be long then salmon

[Salmon1]

if who can prove it lol.

what a load of crap.

bad rep me all you like, having bad rep will not make me lose any sleep.

im only being honest and backing up the poiint of realising how stupid it is with passengers.

[LittleDude101]

if who can prove it lol.

what a load of crap.

bad rep me all you like, having bad rep will not make me lose any sleep.

im only being honest and backing up the poiint of realising how stupid it is with passengers.

its stupid doing it anyway... go to a track if you want to speeds like that

[rushy_23]

Its weird,
you pass your test and before you, you have endless amounts of Road to drive on.
Its a rush, its a thrill and it is fun.

I think majority of people are taken back by this but a smaller majority (myself included)
feel free and open to do what they want in a car if you know what I mean.
Things like driving experiance should come over many years but in our eyes
as soon as 'you feel' comfortable you think your a good driver.

From then on I guess in a way you do feel invincible:

Once you get 100mph out of a car your like "yea yea I can hand any car"
You overtake somebody and think "man that was good"
Then you push it a bit more, try going round a roundabout at 40mph "woah scary now"
Your mates then jump into your car so you show them what you have 'learned'

Next thing you know your car is in peices and so are your friends...

[Salmon1]

i am, booked on knockhill for 4th febuary.

if i want to speed, ill speed, my dad drove his sierra cossie at 160 near enough daily to and from work for 10 years, not a point on his license.

bought a mondeo st220 a few months back, got caught over 2 miles with average speed of 99.3. got a big fine and 5 points.

if i get caught i get caught, if i crash, i crash.

always been a speedfreak my whole life, quads, mx, go karts, dh mountain biking.

[S34MER]

Rush you've just nailed it bang on the head mate!! spot on there.

[Salmon1]

yep he has.

and for every 100 people like myself that probly think there invicible whish is nieve and stupid only 1 will crash.

ill take my chances.

however if anyones in the car, i drive carefully, fair enough maybe not to speed limit depending on situation, but carefully.

[LittleDude101]

Well said rush!

i am, booked on knockhill for 4th febuary.

if i want to speed, ill speed, my dad drove his sierra cossie at 160 near enough daily to and from work for 10 years, not a point on his license.

bought a mondeo st220 a few months back, got caught over 2 miles with average speed of 99.3. got a big fine and 5 points.

if i get caught i get caught, if i crash, i crash.

always been a speedfreak my whole life, quads, mx, go karts, dh mountain biking.

How much was your insurance?

[LittleDude101]

Shall we start to get this back on the actual topic?

I think we know peoples views of speeding on public roads...

[Salmon1]

track insurance???

if so im not bothering.

[LittleDude101]

track insurance???

if so im not bothering.

i meant you general insurance?

[S34MER]

i am, booked on knockhill for 4th febuary.

if i want to speed, ill speed, my dad drove his sierra cossie at 160 near enough daily to and from work for 10 years, not a point on his license.

bought a mondeo st220 a few months back, got caught over 2 miles with average speed of 99.3. got a big fine and 5 points.

if i get caught i get caught, if i crash, i crash.

always been a speedfreak my whole life, quads, mx, go karts, dh mountain biking.

I don't have a problem with you being a speed freak im exactly the same, used to have quads etc myself, most people on the forum are the same.

But in my eyes speeding around with the attitude "if i get caught i get caught, if i crash, i crash" makes you a prick in my eyes, see your just thinking about the consequences to yourself. Think about if you hit a kid crossing the road and kill him! Your gonna have to live with that for the rest of your life, seeing the kids family in court, seeing how devastated they are, then spending a few years in the cells! all for driving like spoon!

I think you got alot to learn youth!

[rushy_23]

Ive heard of way too many people crashing close to me, hell I crashed my VTR
lol (forgot about that!)
My GF Shantel was with me in the car and thats what hurt me the most, f*ck
my car she was so upset by the whole thing.

When I look back on that day now, if a little kid was on the pavement I would
of mounted them and crushed them into the brick wall I hit. How lucky was
I that nobody was there...

Honestly people really dont know how serious speeding is. Salmon you
say "if I crash then I crash" this isnt good enough your missing the point.
What about the life you take down with you at the same time??? Can you
live with that. By the sounds of things you probably could..

Im not lecturing anyone, im just passing on my experiances so you dont have
to go through the same things.

If I had lost her then I dont think I would be on this forum today or even own
a car now.

[saxooxas]

yeah good point rush but salmon you shouldnt want to be doing 133 everywhere, its dangerous lol! plus speeding everywhere will screw you over when you go through speed cameras and get too many points. Plus what if you run someone over? Youve got to consider the consequences of your actions if youre going to speed everywhere

[Suie]

when i passed my test meany moons ago my first car was an x reg escort...top speed of 30 lol. i just enjoyed being able to drive and being indpendent.

These days the kids who pass are getting s reg saxos and feel the need to prove how fast they can go! which is why you are hearing about more young deaths on the road...driving isnt all about speed.

my theory any way.

[stevenixon]

I have to agree with S34MER and rushy_23!

[stevenixon]

yeah good point rush but salmon you shouldnt want to be doing 133 everywhere, its dangerous lol! plus speeding everywhere will screw you over when you go through speed cameras and get too many points. Plus what if you run someone over?

133mph! a blow-out should be interesting at that speed! :A:

[Salmon1]

but i cant stress enough i dont drive like a twat. i dont cruise about city centre.

i use my car for a-b, to meet the bird, go to cinema etc....

but if i want a bit fun, i go alone at 1 in the morning, and yes i hammer the cunt out it lol, but in a decent enviroment and not 30limits, where the only worry i have is the 5-0.

i love my country hacks along country sweeping narrow roads at 50mph than doing 120 on a motorway.

[rushy_23]

Shall we start to get this back on the actual topic?

I think we know peoples views of speeding on public roads...

I think the comments are to do with the topic really.
Topic relates to deaths around us mainly caused by dangerous driving.

We all just talking how dangerous driving is so underestimated by some
young people.


The most ironic thing about all of this is yesterday I saw a mate of mine
a lot younger than me, he has just passed his test and is now driving a
1.1 Mk1 Punto.
In true 'new driver fashion' he wheels spinned off down the road in a
residential 30mph area.. lol.

[saxodan]

if i get caught i get caught, if i crash, i crash.



What about the little nipper you mow down on the way?
your a dick, speeding is one thing but there is a time and place dude

Hope you get banned and a nice big fine

[Tammy_VTS]

mmmm young drivers... drive like complete idiots end of story....

one thing annoys me more... is why why why why why why do people thinkthey can do 133 in a FRIGGIN VTR GRRRRRRRRRRRRR....

death happens... you dont know when no-one knows.. live everyday as it comes...

[boz]

i know what you mean mate, i have lost 3 mates in car accidents, another was mowed down by a car and died, another commited suicide and 1 died when we were fishing and was swept out to sea. also lost a work mate, he went out on the lash, ended up falling alseep behind a wall and died of hypathermia!

i was fortunate to survive a bad car accident, me and my cousin got out with only minor injuries, but it could have been alot worse. there were alot of things looking after us that day

you never know when your time is up.

[rushy_23]

VTR can actually do 140mph my speedo told me.... :flamed:

[saxodan]

i know what you mean mate, i have lost 3 mates in car accidents, another was mowed down by a car and died, another commited suicide and 1 died when we were fishing and was swept out to sea. also lost a work mate, he went out on the lash, ended up falling alseep behind a wall and died of hypathermia!

i was fortunate to survive a bad car accident, me and my cousin got out with only minor injuries, but it could have been alot worse. there were alot of things looking after us that day

you never know when your time is up.

jeusus thats a couple of freak deaths right there!

[LittleDude101]

but i cant stress enough i dont drive like a twat. i dont cruise about city centre.

i use my car for a-b, to meet the bird, go to cinema etc....

but if i want a bit fun, i go alone at 1 in the morning, and yes i hammer the cunt out it lol, but in a decent enviroment and not 30limits, where the only worry i have is the 5-0.

i love my country hacks along country sweeping narrow roads at 50mph than doing 120 on a motorway.

1am... whatever speed over the limit, down a country road... spin out, blow out, whatever could happen... no one around to help... Great idea

I think the comments are to do with the topic really.
Topic relates to deaths around us mainly caused by dangerous driving.

We all just talking how dangerous driving is so underestimated by some
young people.



true :oops:

[saxooxas]

to be honest though, people seem to see saxos and think were all up for a race. But why? I know i dont want to go kill someone with my driving.

[Salmon1]

yes it is a great idea cos if i crash, ill kill myself, no one else.

i can live with knowing if i drive like a twat and died, its only myself to blame, if i killed a passenger, id couldnt live with myself.

[LittleDude101]

yes it is a great idea cos if i crash, ill kill myself, no one else.

i can live with knowing if i drive like a twat and died, its only myself to blame, if i killed a passenger, id couldnt live with myself.

what about your family and friends? would be able to live happily after just because your decided to drive the an idiot?

[saxodan]

yes it is a great idea cos if i crash, ill kill myself, no one else.

i can live with knowing if i drive like a twat and died, its only myself to blame, if i killed a passenger, id couldnt live with myself.

your a complete fuck wit

your going to look back on what you just said and think what a twat I am :n:

[rushy_23]

Littledude - no worries mate not having a go! You no me im not like that :p


Thing I really dont understand is how can anyone say if I crash I crash.
Think about your family having to look after you if your seriously injured, the pain
they will have to go through and it also is a physical hassle.

People should be so self centred and selfish but I guess thats life these days.


All small hatchbacks have a boy racer imagine, nothing we can do about it! If
you mod your car anymore then that just ups the boyracer imagine even more.

Best just to learn to live with it if you ask me, let idiots race you at lights when the
road is only 30 feet long lol. Dont be a twat with them.

[stevenixon]

yes it is a great idea cos if i crash, ill kill myself, no one else.

i can live with knowing if i drive like a twat and died, its only myself to blame, if i killed a passenger, id couldnt live with myself.

selfish little bastard!!

what about you family, are they not going to be gutted???

[S34MER]

your a complete fuck wit

your going to look back on what you just said and think what a twat I am :n:

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

[Dan]

yes it is a great idea cos if i crash, ill kill myself, no one else.

i can live with knowing if i drive like a twat and died, its only myself to blame, if i killed a passenger, id couldnt live with myself.

You obviously dont value your life mate, you have a very wrong one sided attitude. Yes everyone like to put there foot down now and again, but only when in the right environment eg. a track not on public roads, thats why there's speed limits.

You will learn though as your only young.

[Salmon1]

i drive sensibly all the time with passengers.

i drive sensibly 90% of time alone during day, unless i see another vtr, cant help myself wanting a wee race, most saxo drivers up here are always up for a race anyway ;)

i drive fast in the middle of the night on country roads.

rerally not half as bad as you make out.

[LittleDude101]

one thing that annoys me about it - it doesnt help the interpretation of young drivers and doesnt help our insurance

[Salmon1]

basically, lets cut the crap, unless we want to go fast we wouldnt buy fast cars.

you can go on til cows come home, but i wouldnt be paying 2.5k insurance on a fast car if i didnt want to go fast.

end of story.

[S34MER]

selfish little bastard!!

what about you family, are they not going to be gutted???

good point!!


at the end of the day, i can see your not going to change the way you drive, so you'll just have to learn the hard way, and if you continue to drive at silly speeds, then sooner or later your luck will run out, and i hope you will survive it, cause all it takes mate is for a tyre to blow, i've seen a blow-out at 70mph and it caused carnage!! let alone a blow-out at 100mph+ 99% sure youre gonna write it off at that speed, unless you can keep it on the road, which is very unlikely!!

[S34MER]

basically, lets cut the crap, unless we want to go fast we wouldnt buy fast cars.

you can go on til cows come home, but i wouldnt be paying 2.5k insurance on a fast car if i didnt want to go fast.

end of story.

yeah we buy fast cars to go fast and drive ridiculous speeds, but theres a time and a place and its called a TRACK you spoon! :homme:

[LittleDude101]

i admire your determination of thinking its ok to speed on public roads... a lot of people buy fast cars for tracks etc. We all know that there are speeds limits to stick to and we know why they are there.

Whats the point of having an attitude like that just to become a statistic?

[KamRacing]

basically, lets cut the crap, unless we want to go fast we wouldnt buy fast cars.

you can go on til cows come home, but i wouldnt be paying 2.5k insurance on a fast car if i didnt want to go fast.

end of story.

heh another reason not to go to Edinburgh other than the weather ;)

Surely its when you're all pumped up for a race that you are at your most dangerous to other road users.

I'm the first the stand up and complain when there is too much of a focus on speed limits with regards to safety. Much of safe driving is down to the right attitude and very good awareness. Something new drivers often don't have and certainly something you come across as lacking in your posts.

Sure I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say I never speed, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

[bullit]

maturity at the end of day

[saxodan]

basically, lets cut the crap, unless we want to go fast we wouldnt buy fast cars.

you can go on til cows come home, but i wouldnt be paying 2.5k insurance on a fast car if i didnt want to go fast.

end of story.

yeah, time and a place

hope you crash and fuck yourself up a bit, broken leg or something then it will make you think

[Tammy_VTS]

basically, lets cut the crap, unless we want to go fast we wouldnt buy fast cars.

you can go on til cows come home, but i wouldnt be paying 2.5k insurance on a fast car if i didnt want to go fast.

end of story.



:y: omg... this cracks me up everytime..... VTR... its not fast in one bit... even a VTS its not fast, vtr... its not quick in the slightest... 90bhp... a 1.2corsa is 80ffs.... it not fast... a vts... its got abit of go in it... i dont think its fast fast.... please m8... your actually the kind of idiots... who make us youngens suffer insurance... and even boasts about it on a public forum... fu*k me you make me so angry its unreal...

[Salmon1]

it is 98bhp.

and it is VERY fast for a first car.

when i drive my mums brand new swift 1.5vvt it feels like walking compared to the vtr.

[S34MER]

it is 98bhp.

and it is VERY fast for a first car.

when i drive my mums brand new swift 1.5vvt it feels like walking compared to the vtr.

i've got a mk2 VTR with a few mods and its not "VERY" fast, i would say its fast for a first car, but not very fast, not when you've driven a 'proper' car.

[Tammy_VTS]

VERY FAST... how :S..... its nippy... they have go in them will admit but... son.... go in a REAL car ;)

[Salmon1]

i wouldnt trust myself in a faster car.

Drove an S3 and shit myself.

Drove a 1.8T 180 TT and it isnt as nippy.

[Salmon1]

go in a real car ?

my dads cossie was quick enough to make people cry haha.

[rushy_23]

LOL! No disrespect to any VTR drivers at all but a standard VTR isnt a VERY
fast car.
Yes it is nippy but there are so many other cars that can equal this.

The VTS/GTi's I would say are quick, but I would never say to anyone that
my 106 GTi is VERY FAST because its not lol!

:mental: :flush: I brought my GTi to look cool not go fast :afro: :luff:

This thead is kinda going nowhere now so we my as well all drop our point.
Salmon seems like he knows what he is doing.

[saxodan]

i wouldnt trust myself in a faster car.

Drove an S3 and shit myself.

Drove a 1.8T 180 TT and it isnt as nippy.

personally i wouldn't trust you on a moped

[Salmon1]

well i drove a 18hp moped for a year when i was 16, capable of 88mph (dyno'd) and wrote it off in a collision with a land rover which was his fault.

got insurance, bought another ped, made it equally as quick never crashed it.

[S34MER]

hahaha pmsl you dyno'd a ped!! hahaha that says it all! CHAV!!

[Tammy_VTS]

did the fooking moped do wheeliesss maaayyteeee **in devvo chav voice

[Didz]

yer i know, all the drivers survived though! its not on...

imagine killing one of your passengers and yuo survive thats quite a thing to live with, my mates cousin though, the driver of that car is being done with death by dangerous driving so he will be going prison...

Life ruined forever because you was showin off one time... so not worth it...

dam right but the annoying thing is so many "little boys" are out there doing it and many dont even think of the consequences, until its to late, and the most annoying thing is its usually the p****s messing around that come off best!

[stevenixon]

did the fooking moped do wheeliesss maaayyteeee **in devvo chav voice

ha devvo i love that guy what a legend!

[Salmon1]

no i like to do everything all or nothing, ill be honest, my main problem is im never content.

if i have a scooter, i want to mod it to be fast, same with the car.

end of the day im driven by speed and adrenalin, iv never been into football or any of that, i love extreme.

[saxodan]

no i like to do everything all or nothing, ill be honest, my main problem is im never content.

if i have a scooter, i want to mod it to be fast, same with the car.

end of the day im driven by speed and adrenalin, iv never been into football or any of that, i love extreme.

go play extreme chicken on the motor way and trip in front of a 130 mph saxo

[rushy_23]

One thing thats for sure the Saxo would fall to peices!

http://www.avtomarket.ru/content/crashtest/77_crash.jpg

[LittleDude101]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l278/Adam_Evans/71293334.jpg?t=1168094422

thats my car after a crash at about 25/30mph... i dread to think what it will be at 100+

[saxodan]

One thing thats for sure the Saxo would fall to peices!

http://www.avtomarket.ru/content/crashtest/77_crash.jpg

that something stupid like 40mph lol

damn saxos

[KamRacing]

thats why I only push the limits around the track.. nice run off areas, smooth predicatable tarmac and no lamp posts :p

[rushy_23]

Dont know why but that last part of the message "no lamp posts" cracked me
up soo much!!

Heres some Rep mate! LOL!

[Kelly]

oh my god!!!

Salmon - you obviously think speeding is great and love the adrenalin rush.

You ever had that feeling where your throat feels like its relocated itself to your arse? If not then just wait because that is the feeling + more that you will get when you end up mowing down some poor little kid because of your selfish attitude to driving

one thing they teach you when you are learning to drive is to anticipate what might happen around you. now can you honestly say going stupid mph down a country road a kid couldn't possibly walk out? I think not...

i don't think you'll ever learn. like you said if you crash you crash - if you kill somebody then what? shrug it off like a hard man or crumble under the stress of knowing you're a complete pr**k?!

rant over

[sillysammysnail]

Thats not what you just said mate





i said all the DRIVERS survived, jus the passengers in the cars died...

[sillysammysnail]

Bascially, it hits home that if you do stupid speeds or crash accidently or whatever it aint jus you that you've gotta think about...

You've got to think about your passengers, other road users and pedestrians!!!

Not pointing the finger but it is generally young people that have the worst crashes because they tend to show off and race. Hitting something concrete or solid when at speed will not leave much of the car in tact...

[Tim_W]

no i like to do everything all or nothing, ill be honest, my main problem is im never content.

if i have a scooter, i want to mod it to be fast, same with the car.

end of the day im driven by speed and adrenalin, iv never been into football or any of that, i love extreme.

Your just a fucking wanker end of, a cunt like you killed a relative of mine and he had so much of his life left to live. Sad thing is 9 times out of 10 the arsehole's walk away with cuts and bruises. The guy who killed my relative walked away pretty much unscathed. You deserve all you have got coming to you, fucking twat...............

Tim

[Jacks_Black_Sax]

couldnt care if u went 100+mph, its the other people id worry about..

yeah sometimes i do 40 in a 30 on a straight road, but always drop the speed straight away..

cunts like u make me pay more than my car for insurance.. third party

[vtrchris64]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l278/Adam_Evans/71293334.jpg?t=1168094422

thats my car after a crash at about 25/30mph... i dread to think what it will be at 100+

100mph

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i208/Chris_64/Jonscar-Front.jpg

[rushy_23]

No point throwing abuse over a forum tbh guys, 9/10 nobody takes any notice.

[argylefan1985]

i am, booked on knockhill for 4th febuary.

if i want to speed, ill speed, my dad drove his sierra cossie at 160 near enough daily to and from work for 10 years, not a point on his license.

bought a mondeo st220 a few months back, got caught over 2 miles with average speed of 99.3. got a big fine and 5 points.

if i get caught i get caught, if i crash, i crash.

always been a speedfreak my whole life, quads, mx, go karts, dh mountain biking.

your a cock mate an absoloute cock, all you do is boast and brag and shit that you speed and shit your an absoloute wanker, yeah if u crash u crash, what if you kill someone else?!!?!?!?!

what if you crash into someone your an absoloute asshole people like you really shouldnt be given a licence!

BAN HIM!

[davew]

BAN HIM!

good call.....

[argylefan1985]

nah seriously everyones slating him on here all the time for good reason, hes a complete asshole, im willing to chip in to give him his money back on premium membership,Seriously everyone report his posts get that asshole banned hes a cock, if i could someway report him to the cops to get him banned from driving i would too!

Please everyone report his posts get that asshole banned i dont think im being unfair, all he does is post about speeding.

Yeah your well hard mate go kill some kid well good driver, TWAT!

[Simo]

Thread closed...

Some seriously stupid outlooks on life shown in the topic!

I've a good mind to send this thread to Salmon1's parents ;)