claim against me! - NOW PERSONAL CLAIM!!! UPDATE [Archive] - Saxperience

drew

8th January 2007, 20:53

Someone has just gone into the back of me today at a junction - with a transit van. Only damage to hers is a shallow dint above her wheel arch, abot 3-4 inches across. Mines got the bumper pressed into my right rear wheel, and smashed the arch liner out, and i had to pull some black plastic thing out - i think it channels water spray away.

We were just gonna be on our way, seen as it APPEARED to be a new bumper job for me, but then her friend (in another van) started sayin I rolled back into her??? - and once he started spoutin his fat mouth off, she then decided to phone the police, and said we would have to go through insurance - once she saw me phonin people up and takin photos of her van.

It looks like she's gonna try and claim against me! - what can i do about this? - just inform my insurance that she hit me from behind???

QUICK HELP NEEDED PLEASE!!!

vtrchris64

8th January 2007, 20:57

Yer just inform your insurance of what happened, when someone goes into the back of you its always their fault.

Besides you would have had to be rolling backwards pretty fast lol for that damage which seems unlikely the, insurance will probs see this.

Barry123

8th January 2007, 20:57

firstly... did you roll back?

If no... you are NOT to blame for the accident. The person has probably seen a young lad and decided to try and play this to their favour. Do not accept responsibility. Speak to your parents or solicitor if need be.

Did you get their details?

rushy_23

8th January 2007, 21:00

Ads is spot on, if your 100000% sure you didnt roll back then your NOT to
blame and their claim wont get anywhere.

So many stupid w*nkers like that one the road these days. Nobody plays
fair anymore.

LittleDude101

8th January 2007, 21:05

how did she know of the other fella?
If he is a passer by then it will be more of a challenge but they will have to prove you rolled back...
If they are friends, chances are his statement will not be worth anything as he is not an indepentant witness

drew

8th January 2007, 21:08

My sax was never stationary to roll back!!!
Its a wide open curved junction, i saw eased off, saw that it was clear - never neaded to stop, so i began to raise my clutch again to get my bite, and accelerate out into the road, while i was rasising my clutch to accelerate, there was just a bang, and what must have been my rear light coming past me!

She wasn't bothered, didn't seem to make a fuss, untill this fat k*nt started plantin ideas into her head

He was in my face - "you rolled back mate, you rolled"
I said "Howa man, you div't get that much damage to a car of just a bump - rollin back"

It would be a shame if died! - a loss to society!

Anyway, i just want to get my story into the unsurers first, before she tried spoutin things off. The five-o must have thought she was a div phonein them, seen as nobody was hurt, or the cars damaged beyond drivability!!
is that a word?

drew

8th January 2007, 21:10

There is a comunity centre thing in birtley. she must have come out of their carpark, and onto the road behind me
this bloke was in another van (poth PRIVATE taxis - not county)
still inside the carpark - i'll get u an image from google earth!!!
I think i might have noticed if my car was rollin back like!!!!
My mate was in the car, thats the only witness that i didnt - as she kindly waved all the drivers behind her past!!!

b0t13

8th January 2007, 21:16

stupid bitch, dont ever accept responsibilty for it.

and of personally gone ape shit at the guy if he said that and would of got aggressive if they said it was my fault when it wasnt, this could end up costing u alot of money insurance wise so therefore accept no responsibility for it. insurance aint stupid so u shud be fine.

LittleDude101

8th January 2007, 21:39

when speaking to your insurers, empahsis the point that he became aggressive by being in your face and the point that both were moving perfectly with signs of no injury or worry of injury.

On the other hand, you stayed perfectly still cos' your neck was sore right? lol

Skorpion

8th January 2007, 21:39

If she drove into the back of you its her fault, your mate can back you up if they were in the car with you, if you wasn't rolling back and she at first said you wasn't rolling back then you wasn't rolling!!! Only a knobhead in a transit would try and stick it on you!!! Did he just drive past or pull up and start mouthing off!!!!

drew

8th January 2007, 23:21

it was a woman in a diabled person bus!
Its an open junction - well before the junction i eased off, and looked to see that it was clear (i'm still in second gear at this point, no more than 20mph, and as i see its clear, i begin to accelrate out into this road, and as i'm moving out, i get hit. My car would have stalled before it would roll back - and even then, been in gear, my wheels would have locked - i never came to a stop at the juction, i never had to change gear, or use me handbrake - i was moving forward at all times! - so how can this other bloke be sayin i "rolled" into her! - yes, i know, i'll pay 1400 of my money into insurance, and while i'm on, i'll let my car roll backwards!
I expected the bill to breathalise me, and mebeys check me car, but he just stayed by his car the whole time, and told her that it would just have to be a battle between our insurers!
She said "i'm sorry to rush you for your details, but i'm in a hurry, theres a man in the back who is prone to ceasures!!"

woa - hold on a minute - so that excuses your drivin does it? - that makes you an ambulance does it?

scotts

8th January 2007, 23:26

Dont accept responsibility for it, 99% times if your hit from behind its them that are responsiblke for not watching the road. If o were you i would contact the police and tell em she/he was dangerous driving because werent watching the road. hope this helps :)

drew

8th January 2007, 23:29

all i can say is this - I'd of had the common sense - TO FOLLOW THE HIGHWAY CODE, and stay back a reasonable distance, AND, if a car infront did happen to roll towoards me, i'd be on the fu**ing horn and high beams!!!
And if i was hit, i'd be out, and i'd be sayin "what the fu*k where you doing!" - i wouldn't be prepared to go on my way with nothing said!!!

drew

8th January 2007, 23:30

this fat bloke is just lookin out for her interests!
but she didnt agree with him, while he was sayin i rolled, she never ONCE said "yeah, thats right, you rolled" she just stood!

drew

9th January 2007, 22:10

rite, she called my home today while i was at work,
she said to my mam,
i want to offer him to pay for the damage to my van, so we dont have to go through insurance - seen as he's a young and innexperienced driver, and has had a few bumps"

- if i'd been on the phone then, I'da gone fu*in ballistic!!!

1 - i could have been drivin since i was 16 for all she knows,
2 - i have a silver door - i could have bought the car like that - how does that turn into - a few bumps - there are no signs of damage to my car anywhere - not utill the stupid b*tch planted her fu*in tranny van into the back of my car!!!

I had to battle with her to get her insurance details - she got mine, so i've phoned hers tonight (already reported it to mine)
and her's are gonna send me the form out, and get ready to supply me with a hire car if they decide to fix my car!

When i was told she'd 'offered' this, i laughed with rage! - how can she have the CHEEK to suggest that I, pay for HER, damage - being a small dint, when shes smashed the back of me car in!

drews top tip for 2007!: Never let your gaurd down around a white tranny van
and especially if its a woman!

KamRacing

9th January 2007, 23:08

definately go through the insurance! Just tell the insurance company the story as it happened

Keep it really clear and concise.

1. Approached junction - slowed to a safe speed to view traffic.
2. Got hit from behind by speeding van

That about sums it up nicely :D..

not really any more complex than that.

drew

10th January 2007, 10:18

I'll try and get photos of my car on here

I managed to take photos of her van - she hadn't moved it since hittin me,
and i've gotten the sat. image off google earth (which just so happens to have the van in the pic).

These pics are all goin to the insurers - I'll photoshop her van into its position at the junction - based on where it is in my photo, and this should show that she was far too close - and that i i had 'rolled back' i would have to have rolled from the middle of the road!

- eh, whats that?

+ thats the sound of the cleaners pet! - i'm takin you to them!

S9_DAN

10th January 2007, 10:31

you should be fine to be honest, people investigate these things if need be to find out whos fault it is and as she went into the back of you, in is automatically her fault as she was too close to the car in front. If i was you i would claim whiplash as they have tried to f*ck you over you may aswell do the same to them !

Tupps

10th January 2007, 11:40

go through insurance....theng o to court and rape loads of cash for loss of earnings etc - just hope and prey she drags it out then u'll get more :)

Chris_Ward_vtr

10th January 2007, 15:10

This happened to me in my focus about 3 months ago. Exactly the same thing camper van drove into the back of me on a similar junction...my car got wrote off though. The guy admitted liability at the seen so i had no problems, neither should you though because it is her fault.

drew

10th January 2007, 18:47

bbewekim

10th January 2007, 19:34

I've got this part which i found jammmed between my wheel and the bodywork of the car. Most of my wheel arch liner has shattered out - theres only a small bit hanging down - into my wheel. This other part though - I can't tell what it is!
Its got two vents on it, and this number:

961011544223142

Wouldnt worry to much about the car mate, looks like your going to get a nice tidy sum of money and a professional job done to fix it up. Seems an awful lot of damage for a rolling reverse saxo at 20mph going forward.

drew

10th January 2007, 20:51

exactly! lol

kcsaxo

10th January 2007, 23:06

heres some hints that may help:

- do not accept responsibility as many have said, its upto the insurance to figure it out.

- mention that you were waiting at the junction with your indicators on and the vehicle was stationary at the time with the handbrake applied.

- then you felt the driver behind hit your vehicle.

doesnt matter what their argument is, it is the vehicle behind that is to blame. even if you did roll back its their fault for not keeping a safe distance from your vehicle. hope it helps.

weetz

11th January 2007, 12:35

Lol, Drew those "vents" are the fuel filler pipes aren't they :)

drew

11th January 2007, 12:56

i f*ukin hope not!!!!!
kcsaxo - the thing is mate - my car was never stationary! - i never had to stop at the junction - i saw it was clear well before i even got to the end of the junction!!!!! - my car was ALWAYS in forward motion!
the bitch gave me a ride on the front of her van!!!

saxoash

11th January 2007, 13:13

Havent you heard anything from insurance company yet?

drew

11th January 2007, 13:23

i cant get a straight answer from ANYONE, mine say its down to hers, hers say Why are you phonin us then?"
Hers apparently did't have record of my claim - even tho a hire car company has phoned to arrange giving me a car!!!!

Jay_VTR

11th January 2007, 13:25

Sounds like there just taking advantage of you because your young and drive a saxo to me....Dont worry about it, if your in thr right you will be fine. Do they have any cameras on that rounabout that could back you up as well?

drew

11th January 2007, 13:27

no - it was a wide junction - i took pics of her van at the scene, and i've gotten the google sat. pics to send to the insurers!

Jay_VTR

11th January 2007, 13:30

Oh rite. Well mate like you said you were in gear going forward....So you cant roll back and EVEN if you did how the FCUK would you do that sort of damage...The driver of that van is clearly a TWAT being arkward....

drew

11th January 2007, 13:37

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drew

11th January 2007, 13:38

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drew

11th January 2007, 13:42

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drew

11th January 2007, 13:43

this is the junction - i slowed, indicated left, saw before i reached the end that it was clear to my right, and was accelerating out as i was hit

Dan

11th January 2007, 15:34

My brother had a similar claim against him a few years ago. An eldery woman went into the back of him and she claimed he rolled back onto her. They exchanged details and she had given false details, but my brother got her reg no and traced her via the police. Anyway they battled it out and it was found in favour of my bro.

kings_Vts

11th January 2007, 18:00

man this is shit, wot a bitch claiming this, jus stick to the truth, and fingers crossed it will she will get done.

kings_Vts

11th January 2007, 18:00

man this is shit, wot a bitch claiming this, jus stick to the truth, and fingers crossed it will she will get done.

Wyte

19th January 2007, 20:18

yep true the vans to blame for being to close even if you did role back lol

Barry123

19th January 2007, 20:27

drew was telling me the insurance had determine (how I dont have a fackin clue) that he was at fault...

I'm sure he'll fill in the details...

drew

24th January 2007, 17:36

lol, cheers ad!
erm, I got a letter saying that HER insurers where holding me FULLY AT FAULT. Theres 6 companies involved now! - as far as communication goes, my £1400 premium doesnt seem to do much! - bas*ards!
I have just had to send a statement and pics off to the Insurance company of the hire car - Its all wheels within wheels within wheels......
As of today, this hire car's cost will be runnin at around £460 - which hopefully will be handed to her insurers! - me hopes!
I still have had no word - not even to say if the damage has been assessed!!!
For all i know, my poor lil sax is sittin in a compound sumwhere!

bowen

24th January 2007, 18:01

just read this thread, damn you must be pissed off! ive heared of this
"HEY! but you round back into me!",stuff before.
this woman tried doing it after she drove into a car, at the place where i work. after checking the cctv you could see that the car didnt 'roll back' at all!
this sort of false claim must happen all the time and insurance companies must know it! all the best im sure you'll come out of this smiling!

Yates

24th January 2007, 18:08

ive heard a simulat story before, taxi driver infront of my mams really dippy friend, he rolled back about 2 ft and hit her, then said it was her fault she was too close and claimed a new bumper thru insurance, no way was it her fault taxi drivers try anything

Scooba

24th January 2007, 18:14

you got this in the bag mate........you should of said they gave you whiplash too!! - just seen like dan says!

Personally if that had happend to me im sure the loud mouth would of got more back!!

Good luck..

drew

26th January 2007, 12:28

cheers!
just picked up my baby today! - restored back to her former 'glory' if thats what you can call it! ha!

kerrie603314

26th January 2007, 12:36

i hate vans i got pushed off the road once, what actually happened?? xx

kerrie603314

26th January 2007, 12:37

saunders

26th January 2007, 17:11

Right first things first I would fight dirty, and claim wiplash the lot. Reading this thread is making my blood boil!! I hate people like that who think they can take advantage!

drew

30th January 2007, 16:41

hey!
guess what!
just recieved a letter from WIN SOLICITORS newcastle
- With regards to the above accident we hold you at fault
The following statements have been made without predjudice:
......You rolled back and collided with the near side of our clients vehicle

The grounds for this claim are based on the fact that you did not show due care and attention, and did not keep a look out, or where aware of traffic, nor did you try to avoid the collision by means of braking, gears or stearing!

Our clients heads are as follows :
Engineers Charges
Personal Injury - whiplash
Special damages
Hire
Loss of earnings

Then it goes on about it going quicker and wont cost me as much if i admit blame!
- well, excuse my french, but,

GO F*CK YOUR GRANDMOTHER!

I'm not replying to this letter yet - i just phoned my insurers and advised them about it -they said forward it to us

WHAT A TOTALLY REDICULOUS CLAIM

Mrs. Wilkinson, you are an ignorant, lying bitch, and I look forward to meeting you in hell!

drew

30th January 2007, 16:46

The grounds for this claim are based on the fact that you did not show due care and attention, and did not keep a look out, or where aware of traffic, nor did you try to avoid the collision by means of braking, gears or stearing!

hmm, maybe thats because I was slighty pre-occupied by drivin forward!!! :clapping:

doubledavies

30th January 2007, 16:53

WHAT A TOTALLY REDICULOUS CLAIM

Mrs. Wilkinson, you are an ignorant, lying bitch, and I look forward to meeting you in hell!

mate dont you mean

"spitting on you in Hell from Heaven" ? ;)

sounds like a twat, but i reckon ull come outta this ok.

the insurance law is clear on this.

drew

30th January 2007, 17:10

mate dont you mean

"spitting on you in Hell from Heaven" ? ;)

sounds like a twat, but i reckon ull come outta this ok.

the insurance law is clear on this.

Yeah, its pretty standard - my calim, seen as she planted a van in my arse!
But, her claim,,,,, I can't put into words how rediculous it is!

Well, if anyone wants to book a taxi van for a night out, I got a phone number ;)
Just have your neck collars ready!

Jay_VTR

30th January 2007, 17:11

That is just stupid! What a bunch of twats sending that letter out...

LittleDude101

30th January 2007, 18:08

what a shitter dude - dont give up

Im having trouble with my claim at the minute aswell!

rushy_23

30th January 2007, 18:30

Cant we start a petition or something against this bullshit claim?
I would love to see Mrs Wilkinson get screwed along with her claim handlers.

Curran

30th January 2007, 18:49

what C**TS! i HATE people like that, to have the cheek to try and claim from you. i hope it is settled in your favour and they get royally fucked in the ass every day while they serve time for being such a twat. surely its a crime to do what they're doing and when its decided in your favour then they should get punished.

sorry about the bad language but people like that make me angry.

kcsaxo

30th January 2007, 21:17

could try this for size:

Engineers Charges
- the other party who hired the vehicle should be insured to drive it otherwise it would be illegal. an engineer that is sent out to inspect damage is done so at no charge to the insured driver as its a way of inspecting the vehicle for the cost of repairs.

Personal Injury - whiplash
- need proof in the form of a written letter from a certified doctor, its no use saying you are injured as it will not stand in court.

Special damages
- such as? did superman hit the car or something?

Hire
- they hired the van not you. regardless of hire charges, they are still obliged to give the van back to the company within the specified hire time, otherwise THEY will be liable to pay the charges and not you. the damage to the vechicle is irrelevant to when a vehicel must be returned.

Loss of earnings
- youre telling me that there is absolutely no other way that the person can get to work? even if tahts the case, the van has not been completely immobilised due to the accident and therefore is still totally useable on a day-to-day basis so this is yet again dismissable in court. i am sure mr. engineer can tell you if the vehicle is usable or not. my guess is the first.

Natalie

30th January 2007, 23:04

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I know Saxo's are made of tin cans but you can't do that amount of damage by rolling back into a van. Reversing maybe but rolling never

It's really shit. Keep fighting though, anyone can see that rolling back doesn't cause damage like that

kcsaxo

1st February 2007, 11:03

also, you might want to consider the fact that they have used the word "rolling" in their statement when you apparently hit their vehicle. get an engineer, or an independant garage to inspect your car and then confirm the fact that unless you put the car into reverse gear and "rammed" into them, there is no possible way that rolling can cause that amount of damage on your vehicle. hope this helps and good luck with your claim.

KamRacing

1st February 2007, 11:48

Sounds like you have legal cover. Let your insurance company deal with it.

This will not get to court.

saxooxas

1st February 2007, 12:23

sounds like kc saxo knows his shizzle! Ill ask my mum shes a legal secretary maybe shell know about it... And what the fuck, i cant believe what shes claiming!! I mean whiplash, youd have to be rolling pretty damn fast to get whiplash, especially since she was in a van! Id be right royally pissed off if I was you.

Malky

1st February 2007, 13:00

My take on this is you should be ok as she hit you from behind. If there are no independant witnesses then at worse it'll be classed as a 50/50 but I'd fight it all the way.

What I cant understand is, if you were pulling away at about 20mph, and she managed to smack you hard enough to do the damage done, what speed was she attempting to come out the junction at???? Surely she wasnt attempting a 90 degree turn at say 30mph in a van!!!!!!

Plus, all this whiplash crap really annoys me. People are so quick to claim whiplash and the doctors cant really diagnose it. Then the insurance companies pay a lot of compensation to the whiplash party (90% of the time they dont even have whiplash), then the premiums go up and then people moan about the cost of insurance.

Dont make false claims if you dont want high premiums.

kcsaxo

1st February 2007, 13:22

another thing is, did the other sides solicitors contact you directly? if so you might want to consider the fact that what they have done is deemed as harassment because your representatives in this incident is your insurance company.

any legal or whatever in repects of the claim against you should be made via contacting your insurance company and not you directly as the insurance are the people who deal with this case. you might want to keep that in mind should this go to court, but ask for moer detail regarding this one as i am sure its on the lines of what i just mentioned.

Mystic

1st February 2007, 13:39

Loss of earnings
- youre telling me that there is absolutely no other way that the person can get to work? even if tahts the case, the van has not been completely immobilised due to the accident and therefore is still totally useable on a day-to-day basis so this is yet again dismissable in court. i am sure mr. engineer can tell you if the vehicle is usable or not. my guess is the first.

PSML until i read your summary of it i read 'loss of earnings' as 'loss of earrings' about 3 times lol and was thinking 'wtf so u were rolling backwards fast enough to give her whiplash & knock her earrings off her ears & out the window'

Dont worry about it, this woman has been watching judge judy too much :err:

drew

1st February 2007, 16:16

PSML until i read your summary of it i read 'loss of earnings' as 'loss of earrings' about 3 times lol and was thinking 'wtf so u were rolling backwards fast enough to give her whiplash & knock her earrings off her ears & out the window'

Dont worry about it, this woman has been watching judge judy too much :err:

haha, i did the same!

Malky's comments - regardless of speed - I WAS driving forward, and my photos of her van proove that If i'd rolled back, I would have to have rolled from AT LEAST the centre of the road I was turning onto!

Thanks for your comments guys! - I appreciate your backing! - shame it dont really make her go away tho!

- The patition thing sounds good tho!

I'll keep you posted!

liamk15

2nd February 2007, 12:56

lol rolling back at a fairly high speed it looks like :wacko: some crazy people in this world.

Kc howd you know so much? You work in insurance/law/whatever?

kcsaxo

2nd February 2007, 13:34

drew

2nd February 2007, 16:26

unless you car "rolled back off a cliff face" and landed on the car theres no way that kind of damage can be achieved from what is described.

liam - i am just interested in the system, its amazing how technicalities such as how words are used in statements can get you off heavy cases. for example in this instant, if the other side has written that drew's car "rolled" into them, then you might want to ask how so much damage was caused to drew's car unless he was rolling at a considerable speed, by which case because he was at a junction at the time waiting to go out, there's no way that could have happened etc. you just gotta have the balls to ask questions mate.

Remind me to give you some rep for that!

My insurers asked me to forward this solicitors letter to them.
I also included a statement, repeating my original statements supplied, but i added "Perhaps Mrs. Wilkinson has forgotten that SHE phoned ME, and asked me if i would consider 'sorting this out without going through insurace'!!!"

nige1000

2nd February 2007, 17:00

i was just thinking about a few things one of which is im not sure how legal it was for her to get in touch with you and ask you to pay for the damage to her van. Very illeagle i would think. And then for her insurance company to try the same trick has to be extremely dodgy aswell. I wouldnt lose any sleep over this as insurance companies have been around along time and see people trying to shaft them every day. I presume you are only third party because if you had been fully comp your insurance company would of already sorted it

kcsaxo

2nd February 2007, 17:00

shes just wanting money off you fella, cheap bastards all over the world. dont give up and make sure you get a reputable engineer or mechanic that will provide a statement saying that the damage inflicted could not have been caused by rolling backwards... especially given the distance between yourself and the other party's vehicle. was the junction on an incline? if so how much? i am sure that will have a facctor that will help you for this argument.

Yates

2nd February 2007, 19:20

can you not go to police get her done for insurance fraud?!

Curran

2nd February 2007, 19:38

i'm sure this can all be proved using physics. for you to have rolled back the junction must be on an incline unless you were reversing(which you werent). if they say you were rolling back then they will be able to calculate the maximum speed at which you could have been rolling which will be no where near a high enough speed to cause that damage.

liamk15

3rd February 2007, 00:39

whack a sprit level on the junction lol

drew

3rd February 2007, 16:28

whack a spirit level across her head!

I just got a letter today from my insurers NIG, "Please send us a detailed statement of what happened"

(I've already sent one to them TWICE, as I have to my Brokers, and one to the hire company, and one to the hire company insurers)

You know the world is good when you pay 1400 for insurace,
get hit,
then get blamed,
then get sued,
while spending days at a time backwards and forwards on the phone (backwards and backwards)
sending details out to 6 companies,
twice!

Am I the only one who thinks insurance is worthless?

Steve

3rd February 2007, 18:56

Kick Her Ass :y:

Steve

3rd February 2007, 18:57

Seriously she sounds like an idiot, wouldn't let her get away with it, should have said what i heard her wheelspinning raking her van towards me , shes seen the fast and the furious and is hooked. then she was clearly not in control when i was pulling away she shunted me, just to let me know she was there and ready to race!

And i would personally walk into win solicitors and tell them to fuck off! go to Mckeags where i work till tuesday we'll sort it out lol. or you could waste more of there time and money!

i posted a serious reply on your msn space if you have not seen it already......

saxooxas

3rd February 2007, 19:36

haha mystic what a comment! That would be funny if shed put that down though id wet myself.
Drew my mumll show that letter to her boss on monday so wonder if he can help at all, plus you going to get a consultation with some solicitors for free or whatev?

saunders

4th February 2007, 10:46

can you not go to police get her done for insurance fraud?!

thats wot I was thinking, fukin bitch deserves to be locked up!!

kcsaxo

4th February 2007, 13:32

just remember to ask those questions and also making fraudulant claims is an offence but maybe too much hassle. as long as you win the case thats all that matters.

also, mention the fact that if it does go to court that "all court costs that arise from this case will be settled by the losing party" that should shit them up and make sure your lawyer knows their shit.

if it does get to court and you win, THEN you can go for the jugular and sue them for loss of earnings too.

drew

4th February 2007, 16:29

laura_g

7th February 2007, 20:55

Hope everything goes ok wiv the insurance like many hav sed there are lots of d**kheads about that dont deserve a license !

Rocko

9th February 2007, 22:58

Think of it, its logical, Woman driver, type of one that would go back to the nail shop if she broke a 1 quid fitted nail with glue.

Its not your fault, explain in superior detail of what happened, its good that you took photo's aswell, she must'av shit herself and started making things up then.

And you could only do that damage if you were in reverse.

By the way, Im not sexist, its just the truth !

No offence to any women sax drivers but you know men would'nt complain about a broken nail, they'd try and fix it, its a man thing - pride ! :afro:

ah im going on about bollocks now, its not your fault, go for it matey !!!!!!!!!!

:afro: :afro: :afro: :afro:

saxo1man

9th February 2007, 23:58

not your fault mate there will be able to tell from the damage to your car when she it you you went forward there can tell this from how hard she it you good luck but you will not need it and dont take a 50/50 blame

Viper

10th February 2007, 03:05

why bump a month old thread?!

drew

10th February 2007, 16:40

why bump a month old thread?!

why not

Steve

11th February 2007, 19:10

send her a letter to ask her to determine whiplash! and what things shes been able and not able to do because of it.... bet you if you put her on the spot she would struggle the little slut!

really boils my piss this fat women van driver heffer!

kcsaxo

11th February 2007, 21:15

hope its going well mate. keep us all updated.

liamk15

11th February 2007, 23:01

why bump a month old thread?!

this threads been getting replys all the time.

you heard anything else yet mate?

drew

13th February 2007, 20:52

erm, thanks again for your support!
- stevey - luvin your comments mate! haha
No news yet!
Two companies have asked for statements! - they've both had 3 each so far!!!
I've been told i'll be contacted when her insurers comment back to mine, so,,,,
musta been some f*ckin harsh whiplash if i HAD of rolled, seen as its come forward more than 5 weeks after the accident!!!!!!! whore that she is!

Dazza699

16th February 2007, 12:08

Im new here, but reading this annoys the piss out of me! You should get through this, if you get hit from behind then its not your fault- end of! What are the insurance companies playing at?

kerrie603314

16th February 2007, 12:25

Im new here, but reading this annoys the piss out of me! You should get through this, if you get hit from behind then its not your fault- end of! What are the insurance companies playing at?
chill out dazza, don't read it then! you dont have to get so crappy!

Dazza699

16th February 2007, 13:12

Plenty of other people have voiced the same hostile opinion- imagine if you were in drews situation you would be equally annoyed. Sorry freedom of speech and all that.

drew

18th February 2007, 18:55

Plenty of other people have voiced the same hostile opinion- imagine if you were in drews situation you would be equally annoyed. Sorry freedom of speech and all that.

haha!
yea kerrie - sho me sum luv - and erm... things! ha! ;)

Still nothing yet - the last i heard was a copy of a letter from her insurers, and they couldnt understand how she managed to clip my back right side, if she'd come from the side road! - but, i had to explain that the bitch was rakin it out the junction, and gave me a shunt to let me know she was ready to race! haha
(luvin that!)

kcsaxo

18th February 2007, 19:04

sounds like her insurance company is smelling a rat, and not the one in between her legs! keep it up mate, dont give up and if you need help just post on here and will try to give advice. also if you DID roll into her, surely you would have rolled into the middle of her vehicle seeing that she was waiting behind you on a junction am i not correct? shes just talking shit.

Steve

18th February 2007, 21:04

haha!
yea kerrie - sho me sum luv - and erm... things! ha! ;)

Still nothing yet - the last i heard was a copy of a letter from her insurers, and they couldnt understand how she managed to clip my back right side, if she'd come from the side road! - but, i had to explain that the bitch was rakin it out the junction, and gave me a shunt to let me know she was ready to race! haha
(luvin that!)

my point exactly! fat van racers! :panic:

so still not heard anything at all?

Steve

18th February 2007, 21:04

sounds like her insurance company is smelling a rat, and not the one in between her legs!

legend :p

joshclarke7

18th February 2007, 23:35

if i was u mate id b havin neck n back probs lol sounds like she bumped u good lol put ur own claim in lol

Yates

19th February 2007, 09:31

any more updates?

kerrie603314

19th February 2007, 10:00

Plenty of other people have voiced the same hostile opinion- imagine if you were in drews situation you would be equally annoyed. Sorry freedom of speech and all that.
no worries, it just interesting to see the progress of what happens and drew keeps us updated! ;)

drew

19th February 2007, 13:23

still nothing! dunno if thats good or bad,
but hey

saxodanvtr

19th February 2007, 13:32

get your insurance company to come look at your car then will b able to tell is your rolled back etc!
also when you took out the policy did you say you were a part of a car forum cuz if you did they will of read every little thing you have wrote on here!

kerrie603314

20th February 2007, 10:41

Steve

23rd February 2007, 23:07

give them this link! lol you inform them about your car window getting smashed by a thug breaking in....
then again best not give them this link :homme:

Saxo_kiddie

12th March 2007, 22:00

hey wot happened about this....did u get it sorted, hope ya did

drew

13th March 2007, 10:34

still nothing!
NOT A THING!

babers

13th March 2007, 14:17

hey wot happened about this....did u get it sorted, hope ya did

strange first post. maybe its her lol

Steve

13th March 2007, 21:32

strange first post. maybe its her lol

could be?

hows your van :homme: lol
still nothing drew? car failed its mot cos she hit it, fucked his brakes, smashed his front drivers window everything haha

drew

15th March 2007, 10:35

could be?

hows your van :homme: lol
still nothing drew? car failed its mot cos she hit it, fucked his brakes, smashed his front drivers window everything haha

haha legend

and the back pain and stress meant i couldn't work so me, my wife, and 5 kids have been living in my sax ever since :n:

Yates

27th March 2007, 21:15

anything???

WaxMyBalls

17th April 2007, 14:21

I wanna know too! Insurance companies make me so mad!

drew

17th April 2007, 16:16

not a sausage!

Lee123

18th April 2007, 18:15

Dont worry about it she hasnt got a chance of you being blamed from what you say, you should also put a whiplash claim in yourself since she is being a twat about it all.

johnny_vts

18th April 2007, 22:08

Have you sought counsel for this?

johnny_vts

18th April 2007, 22:09

Sounds like you have legal cover. Let your insurance company deal with it.

This will not get to court.

It won't if he has any legal representation.

punkrock

18th April 2007, 22:18

am new this is first time av read this bt 2 me sounds like ur necks started 2 hert, if she can mange 5week and not feel a thing wrong with hers lol
ah well am sure it will all wrk out 4 best...
can a van acctually do 30mph round a corner btw? ad like 2 c tht :) hehe
and tht junction looks like a pritty flat round 2 me and would be hard 2 "roll" back fast enouth 2 crumble ur back end...
hope u win ppl like her should b locked up

punkrock

18th April 2007, 22:19

a ment road and cumple btw lol

JimoVTR

19th April 2007, 08:23

if u werent on a steep slope/hill whatever there is no way you could of rolled back and made that much damage.

go back to the scene and look for cctv cameras (we are the most watched nation in the world)

drew

23rd June 2007, 21:08

hey!
never guess what!

can't remeber if i told yous that i got a letter from Winn Solicitors sayin she was goin to sue me for personal injury, damages, special damages, engineer costs, hire costs, loss of earnings, miscellaneous costs etc.

forwarded it to my insurers, got nothin more from win!

or did i!

other day, nice big envelope, "newcastle crown court" stamp on,
winn solicitors, court claim,

Mrs. W*** sueing you for damages arrising out of the road traffic act 19...,

exceeding £400 but not £500

Total= £685

so, the dumb bitch don't take hints from insurers!

in the statement, again i 'rolled', and i was neglegent because:
among this long list they;ve got, i drove to fast - (what?, backwards whilst in second gear? - i failed physics, but erm, nah!)

failed to notice and react to how close she was - ehhh, who, me? or her?

she's a k*nt - plain n simple!

i hope she chokes on her muller rice!

drew

23rd June 2007, 21:09

let me know what you think. the letters gone to my insurers - the people who represent me if someone parks their van in my arse - hint hint

Barry123

23rd June 2007, 21:10

cant believe this is still going on.... what about the insurers? what did they say?

drew

23rd June 2007, 21:12

oooo, for legal reasons, i can't say,
but,,,,, if worst comes to worst n it goes to court, theres things which will make her look as stupid as a gypsey playing golf in a lightening storm!

Barry123

23rd June 2007, 21:17

Is it fair to assume that the insurers think the lass is on crack for claiming?

or no comment? lol

drew

23rd June 2007, 21:22

if they didn't allready, then they will now - seen as shes tryin to sue me, for the accident she caused and already tried to blame me for!

Tip - If you loose an insurance battle, don't try and sue someone for the same incident, that you already lost. And don't sue for damages, that you caused!

£685 pffffff, i spit on your grave!

evans1089

23rd June 2007, 21:30

oh dear drew, i've just read this topic over an over lol, such a serious event :(
this women sounds definatly desperate for sum cash ! wernt ther any witnesses? normally on a road like that ther shud b at least one lol !
*keep us posted*

drew

23rd June 2007, 21:37

well, there would have been,
only Mrs. Educated-safety-man waved a hand-full of cars past - from behind her van, into the junction! - CLEVER! ignorant bitch!

Her claims are rediculous, to the point where me n my witness had to laugh!
a car does not roll back when it's traveling forward in gear! but she obviously finds it hard to get her woman driver head around that!

I also have proof on my damage photos - there is mud from her wheel on the TOP of my bumper, proving her wheel was rotating FORWARD as she drove into me! (can you work that out?)

I wouldn't dare have the cheek to come up with these lies, and then be willing to go into court procedings telling lies!

Dirty filthy bastard!

Scooba

23rd June 2007, 23:03

jokers nowdays eh!

evans1089

24th June 2007, 00:09

saunders

24th June 2007, 09:34

I REALLY REALLY wanna see this bitch get taken to the cleaners, sue her for every penny you can mate:y:

KamRacing

24th June 2007, 11:42

Do I take it from this that the insurers ruled in your favour then?

saxoash

24th June 2007, 11:52

Carnt you counter claim? Also wont she get "dun" for making a false claim once shes been proven to be a twat?

Steve

24th June 2007, 19:46

get her done for false claims, you forgot to mention your bad head to them...... i told you to play dirty back, you want me to sort her out? lol

drew

24th June 2007, 19:51

i'm too honest i guess!

the bitch just needs to accept that the collision was her tryin to drive through me, not me rolling back whilst driving forward in second!!!

Graham

25th June 2007, 01:06

damn people trying to claim when it was their fault. i remember when i was 16 i got knocked off my moped by somebody who wanted to turn right and cut across into my lane and crashed right into me. clearly their fault as he didnt look before he turned. but he said i jumped a set of red lights which i clearly didnt.

drew

25th June 2007, 10:04

they obviously think they can be biased when they're involved with a young driver! its like when she called the police and had two traffic cars come - no-one was hurt (apart from accute whiplash she apparently had lol) and i bet she was hopin they'd see: young lad + saxo = frisk
People these days!
And to think, i;m payin 1400 of my money into insurance, she's probably paying much less!

Dirty Filthy Bastards!

Scattle

25th June 2007, 10:09

She sounds like a right nutcase, and it sounds as if you have got a lot in your favour, hope her false claims result in her getting what she deserves.

drew

25th June 2007, 11:11

anyone live in/near gateshead???

drew

2nd July 2007, 10:39

Hello!
Just recieved a statement from her witness / (bum chum) and after reading it i feel quite confident! haha, i've had to do lots of annotating!

I'm sending a big fat fcuk off pack back to my solicitors, wish i could say what i've got!!

I'll keep you posted on what comes of it!
but at the end of the day, even without statements, you just have to look at the photos i have, and you can see who's to blame!
and as for her witness, well, he has x-ray vision me thinks!

wish me luck!

Scattle

2nd July 2007, 10:53

Sounds like it is going well and your gunna get all shes worth, shame it had to go this far, good luck with it all.

KamRacing

2nd July 2007, 11:22

the good thing about people lying is most people are not very good at it :d

Wakey1989

2nd July 2007, 23:43

im new here and i have just been reading through, you have probably settled the case but:

as you said you were travelling forward
you wouldnt have been able to achieve a speed great enough to cause the amount of damage that was encourred
her witness, unless he was in the vehicle she was in, and not behind her, it is unlikely that he would have been able to see you roll back
if you were rolling back, she would have been able to see you coming, as she should be a certain distance from you, and have her eyes on the road
if you have her tyre marks above your bumper i guess she hit you and her van proceeded to climb yours

counter sue her, and press charges against her for fraudulent insurance claims, and him for diverting the course of justice (or preventing / whatever)

also say that you have no other witnesses as she rather suspiciously hurried all witnesses off.

jdavies23

3rd July 2007, 00:05

Im afraid it doesnt quite constitute perverting the course of justice it is however slightly dodgy., however i do agree with the previous post, you should take her for everything shes got, your right shes wrong- play the game and make surethe insurance company knows everything and they will have a full understanding and there is no way they can win.- fight fire with fire if needs be- because believe me the insurance company won't do it the way they could without you badgering them and keepign on top of things. Take it to court if needs be and then have her for fraud and dangerous driving (if in ten years time it gets that far)- then she will give dodgy evidence then get her for perverting the course of justice- jsut what she deserves- cow.
good luck.

drew

17th July 2007, 15:41

'however if you intentionally make a false statement you may be liable for contempt of court!' - will she be found out? that is the question!

Just spent an hour tryin to get in touch with my insureres NIG,
first number, engaged for 45 mins,
second number - fake,
third number - recorded message on a loop - press 2 for information regarding a current claim, (PRESS) ... press 1 for ..... in a loop!

eventually got through,
asked for the status of my claim,
say they have it as "recieved summons", so as my insurance is up for renewal at the end of this month, i asked whether her original claim (thru insurance) was made against me, or wether i won and it was taken from hers,

told me, "..... well..... if you've got a summons then obviously she's claimed against you, so you wont be entitled to your no claims discount untill after the court case - if you succeed!"

FCUKIN DISGRACE!

OVER ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED POUNDS OF MY MONEY, FOR A 1.1 THIRD PARTY, AND GOD KNOWS WHAT THEY'LL CHARGE AT MY RENEWAL!

I AM UTTERLY DISGRACED WITH THE WORLD OF INSURANCE!

advice: as this claim is 'ongoing' am i able to go elswhere or do i have to stay with NIG?

vidal

17th July 2007, 15:44

As the claim is still extant then you have in all intents and purposes got a claim against you, therefore the NCB will be affected. There is nothing stopping you going to another insurer, however you will have to fully disclose everything.

V.

kcsaxo

17th July 2007, 17:33

in the statement, again i 'rolled', and i was neglegent because:
among this long list they;ve got, i drove to fast

there you go mate, another loophole; how can you be going too fast in forward gear, then by bending the law of physics you went from going fowards to backwards abd collide into them? as you mentioned this is getting to the point of laughter, she hasnt got a leg to stand on.

does her statement mention anywhere that you had reverse lights on? this is another point to argue, since you were waiting to move off from the junction AND reverse gear is no where near first, you couldnt have put it in reverse. again look at the statement; firstly it mentioned that you "rolled" and then it is changed to "drove too fast" how is that possible.

going to another insurer is possibly but i cant remember if it gets messier from there on as i know someone who did that. the reason being that the new insurer needs to be filled in with all the details etc but it is possible.

stick to your guns and it will be all right in the end. dont give up.

zmaster2k

19th July 2007, 09:49

iam new here, Drew do not be disheartened, this woman will get whats comming to her mark my words.

as for insurance Kc is right you will have to fully disclose everyhing to the new insurance company. but the current company will still be following it up as youve payed fpr your insurance.

my advice?:

TAKE HER FOR EVERYTHING SHE HAS

drew

19th July 2007, 10:54

thanks peeps

my renewal came this mornin, from my brokers, they;ve set me up with a different insurer, not NIG, and the premium is £1890.00 with 380 excess
that will be well over 2k after interest.

Adrian flux quoted me 1200 with the undergoing claim
sayin i have a claim, third party hit me, not my fault, recovery outstanding, and assuming i have 1 year NCB, was 780
but because i can't bank on a yrs NCB its 1200

still the best BY far - everywhere else wanting 2k +

will keep you informed, still no sign of court date yet!

me and my mate are getting T-shirts printed:

" WILKY'S
They'll Ride You
Like A MotherFcuker! "

Scattle

19th July 2007, 15:29

That's not bad, hope you get the 1years NCB's and this whole issue and court date is sorted asap, this women is dragging it out and is eventually worse for her in the end.

drew

12th September 2007, 21:36

court date - 7th novermber - near my b-day - thanks!!! lol
WISH ME LOOK PEEPS!

drew

12th September 2007, 21:36

- yes, its finally come to it!

Barry123

13th September 2007, 12:29

good luck drew.

Steve

30th October 2007, 19:16

HOPE IT WENT WELL TODAY MATE
FYI he was in court today, the whore is sueing him lmao
Hope she didnt get a penny, did you say what i told you to?

or have i got my dates mixed up? says 7th above you told me it was today yesterday :panic:

danwasere

30th October 2007, 19:24

gd luck mate, i hope you take her for everything she's got. What a cheeky sh*t

Hanuman

31st October 2007, 10:38

absolute slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhg

rushy_23

31st October 2007, 10:40

Hope it went/goes well mate. I want to see proper justice for a change!

Scattle

31st October 2007, 10:47

Hope it goes well, be very long this.

drew

7th November 2007, 16:33

lost it people!

and she had 3 pages of lies!

said i was aggressive to her, and got more aggressive and argued when she told me she was goin to phone the police! - even tho she never said she was goin to

Baz

7th November 2007, 16:34

what happens now then mate? :(

drew

7th November 2007, 16:34

said i had a car infront of me - lie,
said i "was reversing, eh ehh, rolling backwards and forwards and driving erraticaly, and mounting the kerb"

said i kept callin her house

oh, and her witness mysteriously wasnt present because he was poorly

and when my barrister asked her what color was this car infront then? "dont know", well what make was it? "ehh, dont know"

drew

7th November 2007, 16:41

if u'd like i'll post all my evidence photos that we used in court and you can see amongst yourselves my photots practically proves she hit me!

?

then i'm thinkin some kind of pertition! lol and an appeal

smiith

7th November 2007, 16:47

tbh mate, if that happened to me, id of floored the bloke there n then :)

just read all your story, obv your not gona be rolling back goin onto a road.

Was the road sloaping back her way? coz if not its impossible to roll backwards isnt it.

VENDETA! baseball bat + her windows + expanding foam and exhaust!

KamRacing

7th November 2007, 16:49

can you appeal?

grim12984

7th November 2007, 16:51

Totally gutted for you mate. I've got a claim going on myself, some twat went into the side of me on a roundabout on the 16/10. Just sat here waiting with my fingers crossed. I honestly thought that yours was a no-contest claim though. Sorry to hear otherwise...

smiith

7th November 2007, 16:57

i really do hate people who lie there way into winning things, its discusting what people in the coutry do, depending on compensation, like claiming whiplash a year after a accident and shit.

should be shot, along with people who have been on the dole over 3 months, and murder'ers and pedofiles!

shoot the lot of em

this coutry

drew

7th November 2007, 16:57

aye not even 50/50!

waiting to see what i get sent!

will try to appeal but doesnt look good!

it was disgracefull!

my barrister was really good and he pulled her to bits on loads of things!

but in the end, the judge said he was with her because he thought that "at that time surely there would be a large amount of traffic on the road, therefore i don't believe you would be able to pull straight out"

from then on he just went with her on everything!

solicitor then told me, in all the cases, if your a young driver goin against someone older, you'll always loose!

drew

7th November 2007, 16:58

i had to cancel my my holidays to get this day off, and shes wantin on top of everything else, £25 for stamps and phonecalls! - what about me?
£50 for her having to be off work for the day

drew

7th November 2007, 16:59

so i've got 28 days to pay her the damages @ £680,
then theres all the other costs to be added

n then i'll have to see if i have to pay for my damages, including a £400 hire car

smiith

7th November 2007, 17:06

brick - window
knife - tyres

Modified

7th November 2007, 17:17

id let it lay for a couple of months and then do her car over!!!!

and yeah lets see the pics! and if u rly think u can do it hire a sol. that is sh!t and with it all u should be able to appeal and do her over! its just a joke!

drew

7th November 2007, 17:20

i'll upload everything onto my myspace n then link in onto here

- www.myspace.com/werd2drew

i really thought i'd won as her story was SOO far fetched and rediculous!

and her voice was quivvering all over!

the judge even mocked her!

then in the end, you get your £1400 worth!

who says this country isn't fu*ked up eh?

CS_Sean

7th November 2007, 18:43

Sorry 2 hear bout tht bud !!

drew

7th November 2007, 19:22

http://a831.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/116/l_67425b54e64a4d2878cf3ceed4c8f916.jpg

drew

7th November 2007, 19:24

- i'll put up the "proceedings" later on, but apparently i was rolling backwards and forwards, driving erratically - which she never explained

Matty_VTR

7th November 2007, 19:30

this is shocking. Really thought you'd of won this one. People just dont care when it comes to young drivers.

Matty.

Dasher_VTR

7th November 2007, 19:43

i agree with smiith if someone had set me up like that. i would find out where they live and would burn their house down obviously with them out, destroy everything they own.

do you know where she lives?

it's they only way you can get some sort of payback

anyways hope you win the appeal fight it all the way.

E3D

7th November 2007, 19:49

yer if i was u there no way il let her get away with this injustice bricks, smash up her van shit through the box.

rushy_23

8th November 2007, 14:36

vtrchris64

8th November 2007, 16:02

i wouldn't pay a penny towards her tbh

fill a bucket with paint stripper and drive by one night

Mybrohasasaxo

8th November 2007, 16:49

Can't beleive what i've just read, if you do have to pay her, offer 1 pound a week as they can't refuse you if you offer to pay it.

drew

8th November 2007, 17:53

I think its a load of crap. Personally I thought with all the evidence it would of
been a clear cut answer to who was in the right and wrong.
Now cause some lesbian hoe in a van that couldnt drive well but could surely
lie pretty good, another innocent person has to bite the bullet. BS imo.

Big SAXP petition imo against the BS ruling.

cheers!

it was laughable in court! it was so obvious she was lyin, she even said sorry to me!

my dad's opinion is that the judge probs DOES know fine well that she's passin excrement over her lips, rather than out her ars*, and he rekons as she has business interests, shes got more to loose than me, where-as i've got my life ahead of me, (so in her favour coz of that)
but still, makes a mockery of INSURANCE AND LAW!

idiots round here can nick a car, drive round no liscence or insurance, they get £250 fine!

i mind my business, get raped to fu*k by captain retard from behind, and then for christmas, told to pay her AT LEAST £700 for it!
(probs lukin at £1200 in all)

:homme:

drew

8th November 2007, 17:54

www.myspace.com/werd2drew
add me and check out the pics!

also, got a blog on there, names would be appreciated!

cheers!

LukeVTR

8th November 2007, 22:49

brick - window
knife - tyres

Lol too right. I'd go crazy getting blamed for something i didnt do wouldnt be having any of that bullshit + was the judge coming down the same road or something? "at that time surely there would be a large amount of traffic on the road, therefore i don't believe you would be able to pull straight out"....ohh i forgot hes mystic meg's older brother.

Sorry to hear that about the claim was never your fault. ive read your story on it and shes clearly a lieing slagggg slept with half the area thats how that bloke knew her and BLATENTLY gave the judge a quickie.

drew

10th November 2007, 23:52

can i thank everyone on here for following this thread and all your support!

:y: :clapping:

those of u with myspace, i;m at /werd2drew (http://www.myspace.com/werd2drew)
if you could check out the pics i used in court and sign my blog on there!

also, any opinions or advice as to wether i can/should appeal, and if there is anyway, or anyone who could win me this case!

chrichvtr

14th November 2007, 16:16

thats shit mate just read ur first bit then skipped to the end my cousin hit someone from behind at a rolling junction and he admitted it straight away because he assumed he was ok to go and the car was still pulling off slowly its a case of that stupid bitch not keeping an eye on were she is going and checking the traffic at the junction just to go i cant see how she won a case id fight it mate its got to be worth it you cant of been in the wrong any chance of cctv footage on that junction at all and ive added your myspace link

minxymears

14th November 2007, 19:58

that is completely and utterly, blatantly mind blowingly toss!!!! i mean WTF?!?!?!?!?! is was clearly obvious, jut give it the good old balance of probabilities..... much higher probability of someone running into the back of you, than rolling back at a clear junction and causing damage.....
reading the whold thread has reaaalllyyyy p*ssed me off!

Dez

15th November 2007, 20:07

i have just read this thread from start to finish, its soo sh*t cant believe you lost, us young drivers are screwed

kcsaxo

15th November 2007, 20:27

thats BS mate, sorry you lost but im seriousley wondering the credibility of your solicitor as that was a strong case for you to win.

DamianVTR

24th December 2007, 15:40

brick - window
knife - tyres

bolt cutters - brake cables
house window - molotov...

Rich84

24th December 2007, 19:09

thats fucked up mate

definetly appeal if you can

VTR-98

24th December 2007, 19:26

tbh mate, if that happened to me, id of floored the bloke there n then :)

No offense mate but you look about 12, I dont think you would be flooring anyone anytime soon.

And about the claim, i would be well pissed off.

Paul

24th December 2007, 23:51