airfield / race track

[Lee_P]

anyone know how about getting a strip on a airfield or track that we can have a sax-p meet at i just wanna have a chance for us all to get together and just have some strip runs or something legally of course ide be prepared to try and organise it (well try) but how easy would it be?

[Lee_P]

also would anyone actualy be up for this before i even start

[DevilDamo]

Why not suggest it to your RMO?

[hesslevtr]

you will probley be able to hire them

maybe at a cost

it will take a lot of working out and ma end up costing alot depending on how many people go

[Lee_P]

yeh i thought that but if enough people are up for it i mean look how many memebers are on this site

[Jaytee]

Is a good idea if you can do it, would probs be a really good day, if it does go ahead hope iv passed by then

[kcsaxo]

i know of people who take their jap cars to elvington i think up by york or somewhere near there. i think its just a case of phoning up and asking what is involved to organise a day there.

[liamk15]

theres alittle event on called the french car show this year ;)

[Scott]

Normally a few grand to hire a track (depends on the track to some will be over 10k) or an airfield for a few hours.

With that cost in mind and the underwhelming responses to track days already its not going to happen any time soon

[VTS_16v_Boy]

Well mags like perfomance Ford (ducks for cover) and French Car mag (GTi mag) often do shoot outs, group trashes and general testing at airstrips and the like, could try contacting a Mag and offering a Group meet get as many cars to one and offer to split the cost between the mag and the club.

Got nothing to lose.

[Lee_P]

I like it ^^^^^^^ good idea i just phoned the council and they said they have a few land owners who i may be able to ask permission but ive got to call back tomorrow

[DevilDamo]

Cough... cough... insurance.

[Lee_P]

I know but thats something that can be looked into

[Scooba]

this sounds like fun.......

[Kelly]

Don't quote me on this but if you were to involve a mag then surely they would look into whether all drivers had track insurance. If anything went wrong and none of you had it then the magazine's reputation is at stake :P

[hesslevtr]

yeh i thought that but if enough people are up for it i mean look how many memebers are on this site

its ok getting loads of people saying yeah now

but when it comes to payment thats when it matters

look at fcs last year

[Lee_P]

I know but im going to try and find somewhere and the thats the next step

[DevilDamo]

If you're after some basic prices, may I suggest you to email Mark Dow (PGAC Chairman/FCS Organiser) as I'm sure he'd be able to give you some kind of idea and believe you me... it's not cheap.

[sy_VTR]

just out curiosity is there not an illegal strip near yorkshire! just what ive heard

[hesslevtr]

just out curiosity is there not an illegal strip near yorkshire! just what ive heard

theres elvington what gets used alot but is legal

theres a place called carnaby near bridlington what boy racers goto but its not on the airfield its next to it on an industrial estate

[Lee_P]

yeh thats the general idea alot of red tap but im gonna have a go and see how far i can get

[sy_VTR]

thought id heard summat any way! good luck spaz! youll need loads of ppl i would geuss!

[djmartin]

i have done a live event b4 and its not easy to do trust me.

was nothing to do with cars tho but if its on grounds inside lets say east riding council they will say you need insurance,stewards,first aid,police need to be notified,nearby toilets.

plus a really good amount of members on here willing to come your talking at least £40+ per head insurance will be sky high.to do my event insurance was over 2K lol first aid cost £75 per hour toilets to keep them open was £50 per hour Stewards cost over £800.

the event took 6 months to plan out.and lasted only 6 hours lol.

its a good idea to do it but its alot of work you have to put in its alot better tho if you know the right ppl to go to.;)

[Lee_P]

ok if that is the case its never going to happen gutted

[yorkie]

elvington york is £1500 for day inclueding timer gear and insureance!!!

good deal i think

so 150 peeps would be £10 each and i know the 106 lads around york/north-east wood love to too.

saxo vs 106 day anyone????

[Lee_P]

I wasnt thinking of a big event just us lot messing about

[yorkie]

Well mags like perfomance Ford (ducks for cover) and French Car mag (GTi mag) often do shoot outs, group trashes and general testing at airstrips and the like, could try contacting a Mag and offering a Group meet get as many cars to one and offer to split the cost between the mag and the club.

Got nothing to lose.

performance gti saxo vs 106 @ elvington

[yorkie]

theres a place called carnaby near bridlington what boy racers goto but its not on the airfield its next to it on an industrial estate


arrr spead alot time there in the early days years ago and also the famous brighouse streetracing hehe when we were young hay!!

[Lee_P]

Yorkie that is exactly what i was up for can we get the ball rollin on that

[hesslevtr]

i still am young thank you

[hesslevtr]

Yorkie that is exactly what i was up for can we get the ball rollin on that

whos going to lay the 1500 out then

[Lee_P]

well providing we get enough people that will be covered

[djmartin]

it can be done if you get to a rce track with there own insurance your laughting mate

£10 per person is good deal i think

its a case of market research bud i.e hell ov alot of PM's to ppl threads on the net on every saxo 106 site.tbh id also get clio,golf and corsa owners involved that way think about how many ppl would turn up if its promoted right ;). you could also state an engine size limit i.e 1.8 and below.

[hesslevtr]

if your going todo it id advertise on ssc to as theres more track slags on there then here

[hesslevtr]

it can be done if you get to a rce track with there own insurance your laughting mate

£10 per person is good deal i think

its a case of market research bud i.e hell ov alot of PM's to ppl threads on the net on every saxo 106 site.tbh id also get clio,golf and corsa owners involved that way think about how many ppl would turn up if its promoted right ;). you could also state an engine size limit i.e 1.8 and below.

would need 150 people atending to do that and i cant see that hapening and if you do it will be rammed and no fun

[djmartin]

i dont want to run this hahaha done my own event been there got the t-shirt (litrlly lol) not doing another lol.but id def get involved if its to do with mrketing cos i cn get in touch with my local paper nd most prob get somat printed lol ;). just say if your serious about it let me know when the venue has been sorted out,prices,times,date etc etc if you are gonna do it give it alot of thought and time id sy do it around the june,july time better weather aswell.

[yorkie]

french hatch day saxo,c2,c3,106.205,206,306.cilo ect ect

[djmartin]

like that idea

[Lee_P]

well im going to look into this its gettin abit big but im going to try and get a magazine to cover the day but we will see yorkie can you get me the number for that track please thanks

[djmartin]

ask mags for small sponsorships if they agree to it then invite them down.also talk to mod shops etc etc and see if they wnt to put a stall up or somat with gear ppl can buy ;).

this stuff does work it just takes alot of work

[thoms04]

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[djmartin]

BBQ/Drinks

to do tht someone needs to have a food and hygenie certificate last thing you want is ppl been food poisend.

yeh you can get a track for 250 so its a case of looking for tracks that provide that service at that price you really want to find somewhere central not somat all the way up north or all the way down south

[SNewham]

BBQ/Drinks

to do tht someone needs to have a food and hygenie certificate last thing you want is ppl been food poisend.

yeh you can get a track for 250 so its a case of looking for tracks that provide that service at that price you really want to find somewhere central not somat all the way up north or all the way down south

rubbish lol, just renting the use of an airfield for the day for a group of friends to mess about on. Nothing to do with organising an event just a mess around.

[thoms04]

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[SNewham]

lol a food & hygiene certificate to sell a few burgers and canned drinks ...... its not some massive publicised event!

Its just like a group of friends meeting up.

If your that worried about the quality of the food then you wouldn't eat it.

Anyways if you really wanted to cover your back then that can also be included in the signed disclaimer.

lol. "If we posion you with our cooking then you are well and truly fucked and we are not responsible" :P :Y:

[thoms04]

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[thoms04]

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[Curran]

even if it did cost 1500, if you have 30 people to split the cost between then it works out a lot cheaper than a normal airfield track day.

a normal air field track day is about £100

if there was 30 people and it cost 1500, it would only be £50 per person to cover renting the air field.

[thoms04]

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[djmartin]

so its not some big thing/event ok thats fine then.........

just a fun day out thats cool

cos of me done a big event b4 thats the kind a thing im used to now.
so i assumed it was gonna be an offical sax-p style event i guess i as wrong.

lol. "If we posion you with our cooking then you are well and truly fucked and we are not responsible

when did you decide to be the chef hehehehe.

il do beans on toast for ppl hahaha

[Scooba]

well another thing in getting people in would be to find somewhere central to every one, because i know i would be put off by driving miles and miles......otherwise im in if this goes through!!!

[thoms04]

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[Lee_P]

Ok so here is the thing i plan it to be a small event on an airfield like thomas04 said but i need help tracking the airfield down im thinkin maybe either midlands way for a location but ill take what i can find so if anyone can lend a hand give me a pm and we can get some ideas together, im hoping that ill get enough people together just becasue its bound to be different form the normal sax - p meet so any help appreciated

[yorkie]

well i was going to say i have a connetion at the yorkshire evening press and c8james is in the catering biz (x2 vans)

elvington also does camping and theres lots of hotels in york

[Lee_P]

yeh but imagine the stress of doing a big meet i just having got the time

[SNewham]

when did you decide to be the chef hehehehe.

You'll notice that it was in quote marks and therefore not coming from myself but a reprsentation of what organisers could say :y:

and Id rather you didnt cook lol :afro:

[Lee_P]

UPDATE - ok so far i have got a mayber on an airfield in west midlands wolverhampton way it has to go through some channels but we will see, if anyone can give me some contacts for possible places would be much appreciated

[VTS_16v_Boy]

^^^
Top fellar, keep up the good work.

As for the food even if no one could get hold of a burgar van or then a one or too B&Q Barbees with some sasuages, Burgers and stuff wouldnt kill anyone, and Im sure if two people split the cost of the food and coal and stuff people would have whip round to pay for their entry.

This isnt a major event like mentioned its a small group of people on a enclosed private area. If people could organise illeagal raves on private farms in the 80s then Im sure we can put together a mini group thrash :-)

[Lee_P]

well as long as i can get the go ahead to host something on an airfield then we are flying

[yorkie]

yeah i would be very waiting to come down also c8james would defo like

[djmartin]

if anyones got a wicked sound system in there car il bring down the decks hahaha il provide the tune mark my words i will :)

[Curran]

i did but it has now been dismantled :n: it could have been awesome.

i think i had the biggest install on sax-p

My Install (http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45958)

[djmartin]

nice install pitty u got rid saw that i htink on ebay im sure of it.....

[Curran]

nice install pitty u got rid saw that i htink on ebay im sure of it.....

i doubt it, if you did then it wasnt me selling/buying it. i made it myself and its now in bits downstairs. i think i will put it on ebay though.

[Lee_P]

UPDATE -
right guys im back to were i started i was soooo close to getting the day approved until the MD of the airport decided it was best to say no at the last minute.
sooooooooooo im now stuck on finding an airfield its just not happening at the moment

[Steve]

had a quick look at this thread, from what i have read, i think its best to keep it simple, turn up pay your wack do wtf you like lol in shortened terms.... instead of organising a big professional meet, just turn up have a mess on be a lot easier!

[Lee_P]

thats what im aiming for but cant get a venue

[tevs]

my dads mate runs the world wheelie record event at elvington and he said it cost a hell of alot. because of the public liability insurance and u have got to have the metal fence as a barrier between the strip and the public. then theres the hire of the place then hire of an ambulance. when he done it last year there was a noise restiction aswell.

[doubledavies]

llandow is a great begginer track if it hasnt beem mentioned

the ssc are going there so it may be worth considering!

[yorkie]

insurance and u have got to have the metal fence as a barrier between the strip and the public.


no you do not there never been no fance on elvington or any other drayway i ever been too.

[tevs]

no you do not there never been no fance on elvington or any other drayway i ever been too.

he got told he had to it has only got to be where peolpe are stood

[yorkie]

no thats wrong i down there once a month mate never a fance for the last 10 or so years i been going there.

[tevs]

no thats wrong i down there once a month mate never a fance for the last 10 or so years i been going there.

i know there isnt a fence there im just saying he got told he had to hire a fence to put where people were watching

[yorkie]

lol wonder why???

[Lee_P]

llandow is a great begginer track if it hasnt beem mentioned

the ssc are going there so it may be worth considering!

youve not got a number by any chance?

[c8james]

llandow is a great begginer track if it hasnt beem mentioned

the ssc are going there so it may be worth considering!

One of the cheapest tracks around. They will do 25cars at 60pounds per car. More cars less money. Bruntingthorpe is 90 per car. The better the track the more money it is.

[yorkie]

i wood love to do llandow

[DS_furio]

theres always santa pod
and the top gear circet often hires theres out

[Lee_P]

yeh but i dont think thats gonna be cheap

[Lee_P]

I cant seem to find llandows number anywhere help please????????

[SNewham]

here you go mate:

Email: enq@llandow.com




Telephone:

Office - 01446 796460

Tony Evans (Director) - 07799 437824
Sharon Evans (Event co-ordinator) - 07876 557146




Communications Address:

Llandow Circuit
Marcross Holdings
Marcross Farm
Marcross
Llantwit Major
Vale of Glamorgan
CF61 1ZG



Circuit Address:

Llandow Circuit
Llandow
Near Cowbridge
Vale of Glamorgan
CF71 7PB

[Lee_P]

nice one thanks snewham

[Lee_P]

phoned llandow i need to email them the details so i have done they will get back in touch ill let you know guys

[David]

Take it this is gonna be a national meet then?

[Lee_P]

well at first it was just something that anyone could come to so yeh it is

[yorkie]

cool sound great

[Curran]

good job spaz. hopefully it will all work out and be a success. should be a really good day. i'm sure if ssc can arrange track days then so can sax-p.

[yorkie]

to right we opp here are looking at a french hatch day or saxo vs 106 day yearly at york dragway.

[Scott]

pity the previously arranged sax-p track days have been so poorly supported at both major natioanl shows. I hope its a success though

[Curran]

pity the previously arranged sax-p track days have been so poorly supported at both major natioanl shows. I hope its a success though

i think thats to do with the price of going on track at a national even. its just too expensive.

FCS is £37 for 30mins on track which isnt exactly good value. you can do a full day on an airfield for around £100 with an open pit lane so you can go on track as much as you like.

i know the national events are held at proper race tracks but i know which one i would rather spend my money on. hopefully if we managed to hire an airfield then the price would be far more reasonable and more people would support the event.

[doubledavies]

http://www.llandow.com/

[Scott]

i cant remember the cost of the 4 hour open pit session we had a fcs last year but it was cheap and again sax-p ended up covering the costs. The thing was that all the event track times were only booked because of the interest gathered before hand. Then when it came to the crunch... well speaks for itself.

[Scott]

ill also hope your compltely correct that independantly booked then more support will be shown

[hesslevtr]

i cant remember the cost of the 4 hour open pit session we had a fcs last year but it was cheap and again sax-p ended up covering the costs. The thing was that all the event track times were only booked because of the interest gathered before hand. Then when it came to the crunch... well speaks for itself.

think it was about £70 iirc but was a year ago and i can hardly remember yesterday

[Lee_P]

Rigt guys i want to hire an airfield becasue tracks are turning out to be more hassle that its worth becasue i was thinking of a relaxed day however , there just is no one prepared to let us hire an airfield im fresh out of ideas now

[Curran]

thats the problem with arranging a large even is people coughing up the cash after they have said they would.

i wasnt a member of sax-p back then so i didnt know about it. but £70 for 4 hours is far better value than this years fcs.

[Lee_P]

right for exclusive use for llamndow is 2 grand and its an extra £150 for a marshall which we would have to have i dont think we will do this becasue i dont think the numbers will show so it will be to expensive i reckon

if i can get 40 people the it will be around 57 each for a full day
what do you think guys

[sy_VTR]

sounding good! start a list!!!only with defienates and not maybes!!

[saxooxas]

40 people paying 57 sounds rather good to be honest, cant give you a yes or no right now but from the sounds of it, it sounds mint.

[Curran]

you could give people to option of attending the meet but not going on track and paying £5 or something towards the hire costs of the venue which would make it a bit cheaper and will get more people involved. just an idea.

[VTRVicky]

you could give people to option of attending the meet but not going on track and paying £5 or something towards the hire costs of the venue which would make it a bit cheaper and will get more people involved. just an idea.

Thats a good idea! :y:

[Lee_P]

so im going to see what peoples opinions are and then we will go from there but here is what the day looks like if we go for it


Itinerary

8.30am Gates open

9.10am Signing on

9.30am Circuit Safety Briefing (will be announced over tannoy system)

10.00am - 5.00pm Track activities

1.00pm - 2.00pm Lunch break

3.15 – 3.30 pm Afternoon break



Max no of Cars on track at any one time - 10


Cars will be filtered onto the circuit from the start area and a chequered flag displayed from the control tower will signify the end of the 20 minute sessions.




Circuit Rules

Before using the circuit all participants MUST:

1. Sign an Indemnity form
2. Provide a full driving licence
3. Be physically fit
4. Be a competent driver
5. Wear an approved helmet. Arms and legs must be covered at all times.

No participants taking part shall have consumed or taken alcohol or any drug that will impair your ability to ride/drive

Participants must not race or compete against any other user.

The use of any form of timing equipment is not permitted.

Reckless or dangerous driving is expressly forbidden and anyone disobeying this rule may be asked to leave.

All participants on track days at Llandow Circuit MUST attend the Safety Briefing. This instruction will include:

1. Rules of the day
2. Flag Signals
3. Entering and exiting the circuit
4. Overtaking and being overtaken
5. Driving/riding discipline
6. Circuit layout and potentially hazardous sections
7. Paddock driving/riding
8. Breakdown/incident procedures
9. Session stopping


Flag Signals

The circuit uses the following flags:

• Chequered Flag
Indicating the end of the session

• Yellow Flag
Indicating extreme caution and no overtaking

• Black Flag
Indicating to return to the paddock and report to the Control Tower

• Red Flag
Indicating session has been stopped. Slow down, return to paddock or assemble at the Bus Stop runoff.


Overtaking

Overtaking should only take place on the straights or exiting the bends. No overtaking in the bends and no cutting inside whilst approaching the bend.


Vehicle Condition

Participants must ensure that their vehicle is safe and fit for the purpose that it will be used for on the circuit.


Paddock

A speed limit of 5mph applies at all times in the circuit paddock and the pit lane.

[Lee_P]

its not that good i think?

[Curran]

why is it not good? it sounds like a normal track day to me but about half the price if it works out to be under £60 each.

[Steve]

shame thats far too far for me to travel :n: otherwise for £57 i would have happily went

[mattwesty]

we have 30 saxos going to Llandow from SSC in march, why don't some of you guys come along to watch and check out what sort of day you could have?

[Ruddy]

we have 30 saxos going to Llandow from SSC in march, why don't some of you guys come along to watch and check out what sort of day you could have?

You wanna be staying away after the state of your bloody car! lol :P

[mattwesty]

lol, i've booked Llandow, nurburg ring, FCS at rockinghgam already for this year! not scared.

[Lee_P]

right so that is the deal but since i live in manchester!!! its bloody far for but its all i could find so if someone down south wnats to take control of this please do meanwhile the hunt continues for somewhere closer

[boz]

i have had a look into this before mate.

i can sort out a day at croft in the north east, this is a top quality race track, BTCC and superbikes use the track on a regular basis. if we could get enough peeps, we could get the whole track to ourselves for a whole day. or just half a day if you wanted. This track can become very busy during summer etc.

Elvington can also be hird but the just an air field, where hamster had the crash on top gear.

there are a load of dis-used airfields around my way, i know of at least 4, some of them you can get onto, but may be kicked off if there are a load of peeps there.

[Lee_P]

boz you are my night in shining armour by the sounds of things