Creatine, what does it do?

[saxotistic]

Just wondering what is creatine for and what does it do, sum people say it helps bulid muscle and when is the best time to take it?

[Leo]

Check this out

http://www.primev.com/Creatine.htm

[MTR]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/gastelu8.htm

Everything you ever wanted to know about Creatine. :)

[bullit]

why do you want to take it?

[grantsmith1985]

If you decide you want to take creatine dude my uncle sells good creatine tabs, what I am using.
Just give me a shout, he has loads of deals on at the moment.

[Hanuman]

isnt it all shite! i tried it for a laugh after me bro decided to use it years ago, soon as ur off it u drop off the weight

[Leo]

isnt it all shite! i tried it for a laugh after me bro decided to use it years ago, soon as ur off it u drop off the weight

?? creatine doesn't make you stronger, that would be a placebo. it just increases water tension making you "look" bigger

[Barry123]

cant you just work hard in the gym instead?

im 100% natural and build like a tank :cool:

[saxotistic]

?? creatine doesn't make you stronger, that would be a placebo. it just increases water tension making you "look" bigger

What increases water tension Placebo or Creatine?

[MTR]

?? creatine doesn't make you stronger, that would be a placebo. it just increases water tension making you "look" bigger


A placebo by definition would do nothing, creatine is proven to show increased strength while providing great size gains.

Sports scientists reviewed the creatine research and concluded the following about the effectiveness of creatine monohydrate:

* Promotes greater gains in increasing FFM (Fat Free Mass, which includes muscle mass).
* Increases muscle fiber size; hypertrophy.
* Increases muscle mass.
* Increases myosin.
* Improves maximal strength.
* Improves maximal power.
* Improves single-effort sprint performance.
* Improves worked performed during repetitive sprint performance.
* Improving performance during exercise of high to maximal intensity.

Italicised text is from the link I posted.

[Barry123]

i think you'll find leo said
creatine doesn't make you stronger, that would be a placebo

He not suggesting it doesnt do anything... but because of the bulking up, the mind is tricked into think you're stronger.

Think World Strongest man and then think Mr Universe... the universers appear super strong... well defined (and a bit :homme:), whereas the world strongest mofos appear slightly chunkier.

[MTR]

He not suggesting it doesnt do anything... but because of the bulking up, the mind is tricked into think you're stronger.

I don't think he means that but i could be wrong, may just be the way i'm reading it. :)

[Leo]

Well I could be wrong about creatine, i'm just going by what i was told.. and in english it makes you appear bigger, basicly makes your muscles watery which appears bigger. All i know is when i went on it for a month or 2 i was just as strong if not stronger after coming of it, but that was just in my case.

Oh and yes like Ad said, it would make you think you are stronger (placebo) but that isn't a bad thing, alot of BB is in the mind anyway.

[Hanuman]

i got told me shoulders looked bigger by me mates, but didnt feel any stronger and as i said "soon as u come off it u drop off the weight" as its just water or whatever, fake anyways get ur self to a gym and be one of the dew who do real work outs nowa days

[SaxyDan]

Leo, I've read a fair bit about creatine and from what I can gather increased water retention is a popular myth.

This website has a lot of stuff about creatine and a passage on water retention too:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak22.htm

Also just found this too which is fairly interesting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3145223.stm

[Leo]

Leo, I've read a fair bit about creatine and from what I can gather increased water retention is a popular myth.

This website has a lot of stuff about creatine and a passage on water retention too:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak22.htm

Also just found this too which is fairly interesting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3145223.stm

Cheers, will have a read. I'm getting some creatine on my next protein buy, going to give it another go.. i'm sure it helps but im positive it doesn't make you stronger. Only think I can say is you have to be carefull reading on sites like bodybuilding ones because you have to rememer they promote this sort of product so the last thing they would do is put it down.

[bullit]

well it worked when ive used it, i could train so much harder thus creating bigger muscles. water retention or not you still create more muscle tear. pschological, if i took it before the gym it did make me want to do more, winner either way

[Ryan]

so many threads on creatine.

so many people who dont need it and will just have expensive urine.

[bullit]

its cheap :)

[grantsmith1985]

I have only just started taking creatine, about 2 weeks now. I am taken the stuff my uncle sells from his shop. I have seen huge increases in my strength.
Incline bench press has gone from 85kg on 4 sets of 8 right up to 105kg 4 sets of 8 fairly easily now.

[saxotistic]

I have only just started taking creatine, about 2 weeks now. I am taken the stuff my uncle sells from his shop. I have seen huge increases in my strength.
Incline bench press has gone from 85kg on 4 sets of 8 right up to 105kg 4 sets of 8 fairly easily now.

Are you trying to sell you uncles goodies to use;)

[Leo]

Are you trying to sell you uncles goodies to use;)

hehe i was thinking that

[tom_mk1vtr]

It is not meant to make you stronger or make you feel stronger, it increases the number of creatine phosphate molecules (required for creating energy) so effectively you have more energy during training; this is why grantsmith is able to now lift more, his energy stores are being replenished quicker so he is not fatiguing as soon.

As you only use the Creatine phosphate energy system in short bursts during very intense training (>95% of your maximum) taking creatine wont be effective if you are doing light weights/cv etc as you will be using either the lactate or aerobic energy systems....this is why some people say creatine doesn't work...it does, they are just not using it to its full potential and under the right conditions. Hope that makes sense!

O and you do get water retention initially

[bullit]

spot on tom

[Leo]

It is not meant to make you stronger or make you feel stronger, it increases the number of creatine phosphate molecules (required for creating energy) so effectively you have more energy during training; this is why grantsmith is able to now lift more, his energy stores are being replenished quicker so he is not fatiguing as soon.

As you only use the Creatine phosphate energy system in short bursts during very intense training (>95% of your maximum) taking creatine wont be effective if you are doing light weights/cv etc as you will be using either the lactate or aerobic energy systems....this is why some people say creatine doesn't work...it does, they are just not using it to its full potential and under the right conditions. Hope that makes sense!

O and you do get water retention initially

Cheers for that! makes sense.

[tom_mk1vtr]

Cheers for that! makes sense.

no worries mate