How to adjust your torsion bar!

[S34MER]

Seen a few threads recently asking how to lower the torsion bar, so i thought i'd include the link i give to everyone who asks, hopefully we can get this stickied up!!

see link attached for detailed instructions on how to adjust your torsion bar!

CLICK ME FOR INSTRUCTIONS (http://www.suzukituning.com/PSA/Suspension/Lowering.htm)

[stevenet15]

yeah get it stickied up mods, i was gona make a guide with animated pics, this is all i done so far showing u how to hit the oposite end of the torsion bar while puling the other end with a slide hammer or socket and bolt teqnique

http://www.asbomotorsport.co.uk/files/torsionbarend2.gif

[S34MER]

Steve thats mint mate! top effort there buddy :y:

[stevenet15]

i'll do one for the other side tomorrow as gota wait for a delivery so should have some time on my hands

[Saxo-Slag]

steve your the man. If i dont get mine sorted maybe you could pop over and lend a hand lol

[stevenet15]

here is a pic on how to pull it out with the socket and bolt method

http://www.asbomotorsport.co.uk/files/torsionbarend1.gif

[SaxOmniaC]

soz to bump this back up but im gonna do mine this weekend and was wondering if this diagram applied to both sides?

[stevenet15]

yeah u use that method on both torsion bars

[MaRiO89]

That guide makes it look so easy, might have a crack when i fit my new rear dampers..

[hesslevtr]

awsome guide mate

i mat atempt mine again soon

[SaxOmniaC]

yeah u use that method on both torsion bars

nice one mate, gonna get it down over the weekend, you think i'll be ok driving about 40mm front and 80mm rear for a little while lol?

[williamsvts]

does it explain how to get the washers out? :P

[Predator_R32]

very nice steve have some rep :y:

[boz]

lol,
be prepaired for the bars to be tight on some cars, you may need to use a bit of strong bar and a big hammer ;) they dont allways come out easy.

when using the bolt and socket setup, make sure you have enough threads of the bolt going into the torsion bar, measure the length of the bolt in relation to the socket, you will need a good 5mm (min)of the bolt going into the torsion bar, as you are using the socket and bolt to act as a jack and physically pull the torsion bar out.
not enough thread location into the torsion bar will mean that you will pull the threads out of the torsion bar and then you wont be able to retain the centre washer when you come to refit the bars back ;)

[SaxOmniaC]

lol,
be prepaired for the bars to be tight on some cars, you may need to use a bit of strong bar and a big hammer ;) they dont allways come out easy.

when using the bolt and socket setup, make sure you have enough threads of the bolt going into the torsion bar, measure the length of the bolt in relation to the socket, you will need a good 5mm (min)of the bolt going into the torsion bar, as you are using the socket and bolt to act as a jack and physically pull the torsion bar out.
not enough thread location into the torsion bar will mean that you will pull the threads out of the torsion bar and then you wont be able to retain the centre washer when you come to refit the bars back ;)


cheers for that, will be getting a few hours kip now and then cracking on with it as soon as im up, will get a little how to/progress thred done aswell cos i got a feeling its going to need some coke and wd40 persuasion so i am thinking a how to on unseizing may come in handy :y:

[SaxOmniaC]

i will get some more pics up later of the front cos the pic in my how low is this thread was taken just after fitting the springs and my mate reckons its way lower than 40mm and wouldve need time to settle!?

also can someone say if i'll be ok with say 40mm at the front if it is only that and 80mm at the rear, it wont be for long but will have to do til i get some lower springs for the front?

[Steve]

good luck :y:

[SaxOmniaC]

cheers mate, think i'll need it lol

[Predator_R32]

a side hammer will come in handy, coca cola works good to loosen things awell :y:

[Chris_Ward_vtr]

That guide makes it look so easy! Is there a guide to replace dampers and shocks? If there is then il order a kit and try this myself.

[hesslevtr]

That guide makes it look so easy! Is there a guide to replace dampers and shocks? If there is then il order a kit and try this myself.

rear shocks are easy just 2 bolts

front ones need the whole leg taking off and spring took off with spring compressors

dont think theres a guide on here

[bakkipouch]

rear shocks are easy just 2 bolts

front ones need the whole leg taking off and spring took off with spring compressors

dont think theres a guide on here

there is if ur a premium member just seen it :y:

[Alzees_Saxo]

makes it look simple. well done mate

[adzparky]

how many clicks lower how many mm? if ya get what i mean?? like 1 click 35mm 2 clicks 50mm....... i havent a clue lol can i lower the torsion bar by 40mm as i want the front and back on 40mm or 50mm

[willsy]

how many clicks lower how many mm? if ya get what i mean?? like 1 click 35mm 2 clicks 50mm....... i havent a clue lol can i lower the torsion bar by 40mm as i want the front and back on 40mm or 50mm

clicks or splines method is not an advised or accurate way of lowering.

There is a proper way to do it which will enable you to lower it to whatever height you want

[adzparky]

oright ok ideal what way is that then?? does anyone now any garages tht would do it down in plymouth??

[willsy]

Check out the link on the top of page 1 in this thread :y: thats a good explaination of how to do it properly.

In terms of a garage near plymouth im unable to help on that one.

[Saxo-Wason]

Sorry to bring this thread back up guys, but me and a friend are atempting to lower my car this weekend and i was just wondering if this is 'the correct method' of lowering the rear torsion bar...and if it isnt could someone please explain or send a link how to do it correctly. I have been using the search tool but no joy apart from this thread.

Thanks

[Junaid]

when lowering the bck can u use the stand torsion bars or do you have to get new ones?

[dannyboy2005]

when lowering the bck can u use the stand torsion bars or do you have to get new ones?

Use the same torsion bar but you have to take it out, choose your height then put it back it in.

Btw steve. The picture dosn't show on Page 1

[saxo-lover]

I need some help with my Saxo VRT 1.6 W Reg, The 'pear shaped' metal plate on the rear tortion bar broke so i got a new one but cannot fit the new one on completely (to see a picture of what i mean look at the following link and look at item 6) http://www.suzukituning.com/PSA/Suspension/Lowering.htm. I just need to know how to put a new one of them on. atm i have a car with no back wheel .LOL, please :wall:help!!

[skeltan]

Hey.. I no he pull the torsion bar out method is one but someone told me there is another way by knocking the arm off the torsion bar then moving the arm then knocking it back onto the torsion bar? does this work?

[raunchz]

Hey.. I no he pull the torsion bar out method is one but someone told me there is another way by knocking the arm off the torsion bar then moving the arm then knocking it back onto the torsion bar? does this work?

careful as you will disturb the seals which may lead to premature failure in the trailing arm bearings as water/dirt gets in.

[skeltan]

careful as you will disturb the seals which may lead to premature failure in the trailing arm bearings as water/dirt gets in.

Maybe that way isint the best then lol =p

Were cud i get one of those hammers it talks about?

[raunchz]

machine mart?

or a big hammer and punch/bar works too ! Just hit it the other way !

[Jon_Doe]

Thanks to Willsy on this one regarding the many posts where he says-
"That if its stuck- you need either a better bar, bigger hammer or bigger person hitting it"

Tried to free one side up with a friend on Wednesday evening for a couple of hours- not with a great hitting method but with lots of winding a bolt in to drag it out the other side. We were squashing washers but no movement.

Last night we tried again and for two hours, my friend and his dad (long term mechanic and also an inventor too who knows lots about mechanics)- thye tried for ages to drag it out using the thread. In total they made 3 tools to do this which ended up tearing high tensile steel bolts apart but still no movement. We came to the conclusion that it was so stuck that the effort to move it (removing the rear to work on both sides) wasnt worth it for the 'cheap lowering' i needed for one track day before winter. I insisted on the Willsy method and vented my frustration repeatedly with a straight bar, reasonable hammer and movede the first bar. (The top one, from the drivers side, hitting though to passenger side).

Then I did the second bar (the lower bar) using the easy access of the drivers side to push in effectively the wrong direction just to get it going. It was easier to get the bar straight on, so freed it up within a minute or so (having had plenty of practice on the other one).

When adjusting and moving the bars, something dawned on me as being stupid- I had never got any WD40 on the bars from the inside.

So- Whack bars out not drag out.
Get wd40 in on all 4 friction points from both sides.

[sug7]

just wanna ask you guys,

honestly how easy is this to do for an average guy?

i am able to do many things within the car mechanically, one which includes lowering the front using my spring compressors, is the back easier or harder?

[silversaxo113]

i done 3 cars one last fridau then saturday then sunday 2 were extremely tight one wasnt so bad but a few minitues was all it took to get the bars free if you take a good look at what you are doing take the time to read the guides in detail get a view of what needs pulling and where you are measureing from etc and have a good set od the right tools for the jobs its rather simple :y:

[sug7]

i done 3 cars one last fridau then saturday then sunday 2 were extremely tight one wasnt so bad but a few minitues was all it took to get the bars free if you take a good look at what you are doing take the time to read the guides in detail get a view of what needs pulling and where you are measureing from etc and have a good set od the right tools for the jobs its rather simple :y:

ok cheers mate

[Bickerton]

just wanna ask you guys,

honestly how easy is this to do for an average guy?

i am able to do many things within the car mechanically, one which includes lowering the front using my spring compressors, is the back easier or harder?

I have watched matt and Lea do it countelss times, i personally don't feel i could do it on my own yet, mainly down to not having the patience when washers are fused in or the erms won't stay at the height i want ;)

[w33WeiRy]

ive got a saxo forte with vts body kit on, and im wondering if it is possible to remove the torsion bar at the back and replace it with suspension springs or just the easiest and cheapist way to lower it as it has a very high back due to it being a forte can someone help :wacko:

[Bickerton]

Afaik you can lower them with whats already on the car

[Gareth_R]

you could find rear suspension from another car, bolt in the subframe, weld up some turrets in the boot and do it that way. Alot of effort though lol

easiest and cheapest way is just to adjust whats on there

[saxtreme]

the guide isnt woeking any more

[vtsal]

It works for me as i have just read it.

Al

[Vtr_HBO]

Awesome guide, I'm on this wednesday!!

[KrisB]

Hey, if anyone needs their car lowered i can offer this service.

£60 for just a rear beam or £90 for rear beam and front springs. Shocks don;t cost any extra to fit.

Feel free to visit my website :)

Kris

[SaxSpeed]

this has been coverd hundreds of times :L:L

[saxo-parts]

and it gets asked a million times

[VTHall]

fuck this, im just going to willsy lmao!

[SaxSpeed]

people should make loads of threads on how to use the search button, as i think there is more how to do torsion bar threads than people who know how to use the search button

[JoshB]

people should make loads of threads on how to use the search button, as i think there is more how to do torsion bar threads than people who know how to use the search button

Somebody obviously has used the search button to bump this thread.

[SaxSpeed]

so me n vtr_hbo know how to search shame about the other thousands of users lol

[W103_A5H]

Bump..

Got a problem with the drivers side torsion bar, manage to lower the other side but the other side wont budge seems to sit at the same height even though it seems like its been adjusted its just when we go to put it back in, it pops back in the original place without being noticed so when we put the car back down its sitting lop sided!

Any ideas what might be going on ? 2 days been on this now, i just want my car back! lol :(

[Gareth_R]

Is the trailing arm moving freely?

[Rickyellis]

can this process be made in reverse to bring the bar back to original ride height as ive just converted from drums to discs but the bar has been adjusted i have gax shocks here so im wanting to adjust it back and fit the gaz shocks?

[LSOfreak]

yes you can raise the car this method too. just lower the trailing arm instead of jacking it up ;)