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chrismurra
1st March 2007, 22:03
right my mate has some gti brake discs groved and drilled will the fit my saxo VTS x reg or will i need to buy some new calipers plz could someone shed any light on to this for me as i have not got a clue :A:

stevenet15
1st March 2007, 22:14
if there gti 6 283mm discs then they wont fit u need to put gti6 calieprs on it , saxo standard calipers use 247mm discs

chrismurra
1st March 2007, 22:18
ok mate thanks. your pal willims has not got any gti 6 brake kits so i am gona have to look elce where for them as my brakes are poor at the min. would normal saxo drilled and groved discs be as good as the gti 6 set up or no way near as good??

stevenet15
1st March 2007, 22:22
no where near as good, the drilled and groved helps stop brake fade as it lets the build up of gasses escape, the gti6 brakes are bigger giving more surface area for the pads to bit onto with each wheel rotation. the gti6 setup is v good for the money, i sold a set last week

chrismurra
1st March 2007, 22:31
no where near as good, the drilled and groved helps stop brake fade as it lets the build up of gasses escape, the gti6 brakes are bigger giving more surface area for the pads to bit onto with each wheel rotation. the gti6 setup is v good for the money, i sold a set last week

if you get another set ill have them of ya mate thats if i havent already got some by then mate il have a kit of ya what about these i am now thinking of buying these then some calipers from scrapy

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/306-GTi-6-405-...QQcmdZViewItem

chrismurra
1st March 2007, 22:38
or should i wait till you or ya mate gets some in stock

stevenet15
1st March 2007, 22:41
link dont work

chrismurra
1st March 2007, 22:45
the link again http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/306-GTi-6-405-T16-TURBO-16v-Drilled-Grooved-Brake-Discs_W0QQitemZ300086436136QQihZ020QQcategoryZ2301 3QQcmdZViewItem

stevenet15
1st March 2007, 22:48
yeah they look like good disks riggsy on here is getting some i think. you can get them and get the calipers from a scrappy if ur lucky enough to find some or williamsvts can sell u the setup with out discs

chrismurra
1st March 2007, 22:51
williamsvts has not got any he pmed me 2 day saying he has not got any. what do the calipers go for at scrapys also are they the same size at the rear chears for all the help matey

chrismurra
1st March 2007, 22:57
trying to rep you for all the help but will not let me must of reped you not too long ago

stevenet15
1st March 2007, 23:06
williamsvts has not got any he pmed me 2 day saying he has not got any. what do the calipers go for at scrapys also are they the same size at the rear chears for all the help matey


there 247mm on the rears, calipers sell for allsorts of prices depending on the scrap yard some are cheap but most want a bomb nower days, plus like i say there not all that easy to get the 283mm ones well nor round the scrapys around here anyway. thanks for trying with the rep

chrismurra
1st March 2007, 23:14
there 247mm on the rears, calipers sell for allsorts of prices depending on the scrap yard some are cheap but most want a bomb nower days, plus like i say there not all that easy to get the 283mm ones well nor round the scrapys around here anyway. thanks for trying with the rep

so the rear discs are 247 mm. well just borght the discs of ebay so if you come across any calipers let me know plz mate. what is standard saxo vts disc size smaller??? than 247mm. if you reply tonight ill check back with yous all 2 moz as im up at 5am go goodnight any1 who is viewing

stevenet15
1st March 2007, 23:27
so the rear discs are 247 mm. well just borght the discs of ebay so if you come across any calipers let me know plz mate. what is standard saxo vts disc size smaller??? than 247mm. if you reply tonight ill check back with yous all 2 moz as im up at 5am go goodnight any1 who is viewing

gti6 front: 283mm
gti6 rear: 247mm

saxo front: 247mm
saxo rear: 247mm

jas16v
2nd March 2007, 00:22
pointless upgrading rear then?

stevenet15
2nd March 2007, 00:37
pointless upgrading rear then?

yeah no point, i got gti6 rears on mine but htas only coz my saxo ones nipples snapped. my car is now complete gti6 setup including master cylinder

CampDavid
2nd March 2007, 09:10
I'm pretty sure the rears are exactly the same on both. And no, not overly worth bothering with an upgrade, though some ally twin pots would shave a bit of unsprung weight off for the truely hardcore

chrismurra
2nd March 2007, 16:59
gti6 front: 283mm
gti6 rear: 247mm

saxo front: 247mm
saxo rear: 247mm

so am i right in thinking that i would only need to buy front gti 6 calipers
to go with the discs i have just bought??? the standard rear calipers will be fine on the new discs?

stevenet15
2nd March 2007, 17:13
yeah thats right mate

chrismurra
2nd March 2007, 17:25
chears pal i shall be on the look out for some front gti 6 calipers at the weekend thanks for all the help everyone

jas16v
2nd March 2007, 18:39
any pictures of the gti-6 brakes behind vts wheels? bet they luge huuuuuuuuuuuuuge!

chrismurra
5th March 2007, 11:09
does it matter what age gti6 i get the calipers off coz there is two versions 1997-2001 will this 1 be ok

riggsy
5th March 2007, 11:12
Would have thought so but not 100% sure?

chrismurra
5th March 2007, 13:06
yer there is phase 1/2/3

chrismurra
7th March 2007, 01:09
what other calipers will fit my saxo vts 283mm disc set up only gti 6

riggsy
7th March 2007, 01:26
I know there is a phase 1,2 and 3 lol

Have a search its been talked about before!

chrismurra
7th March 2007, 12:07
can not find anything

riggsy
7th March 2007, 12:22
Pm stevenet15 he will know.

chrismurra
7th March 2007, 12:54
thanks

CampDavid
7th March 2007, 13:42
All are the same. Thought you could run GTI-6 brake disks on saxxo calipers and pads?

stevenet15
7th March 2007, 14:47
as far as i am aware there are two types of gti6 calipers, there are lucas type and ATE type, they both run 283mm discs but the calipers are slightly different from what i have read. the lucas ones were on the earlier ones from 1997-1999 and the ate were genrally on the later 1999-2001 ones. i have seem many gti6 cars and work/striped a load of them but i have yet to see a set of ATE ones as they have allways been lucas on the ones i have seen

boz
8th March 2007, 00:30
im not sure if some of the bigger 307 HDIs use the same caliper as the 306 gti-6, i know the 206 gt 180 setup is very similar and the discs are the same size, so the calipers will be compatible. was size calipers and discs are on the 2l 406 coupes??

chrismurra
8th March 2007, 01:13
All are the same. Thought you could run GTI-6 brake disks on saxxo calipers and pads?

is this true can you run 283mm disks with standard vts calipers

chrismurra
8th March 2007, 01:15
im not sure if some of the bigger 307 HDIs use the same caliper as the 306 gti-6, i know the 206 gt 180 setup is very similar and the discs are the same size, so the calipers will be compatible. was size calipers and discs are on the 2l 406 coupes??

so if i happend to find 206 gt 180 calipers they wood fit my saxo and work with my gti6 brake discs plz let me know as i cannot find any gti6 calipers anywhere.

also what about the 307 1.6l xsara vts wood these calipers work too?? :panic: :panic:

boz
8th March 2007, 01:24
you can run gti 180 calipers with 306 gti-6 discs as the discs are the same size, but finding a set of gti 180 discs will be hard to. the are bigger than the standard 206 gti calipers.

dont quote me on this but i think the 2l HDI 307 has the same calipers or at least disc size as the gti-6 and 206 gt 180 calipers. but dont take it as gospel lol

riggsy
8th March 2007, 01:28
is this true can you run 283mm disks with standard vts calipers

Surely not?

More to the point why would you?

chrismurra
8th March 2007, 10:01
Surely not?

More to the point why would you?

just asking coz i do not have a clue i will try to find some 206 gti 180 calipers as i cannot find any gti 6 calipers anywhere

banx22
8th March 2007, 12:48
After doing a bit of research on this it seems like there is a lot of vehicles that you will be able to get either 266mm or 283mm discs (and therefore calipers) off.

Have a look at:

www.apec-braking.co.uk

Look through cars in the citroen and peugeot range that ran 266 or 283mm discs, then you will be able to see which cars ran the brakes you want.

williamsvts
8th March 2007, 13:05
i have there catalouge in the house.

williamsvts
8th March 2007, 13:07
you can run gti 180 calipers with 306 gti-6 discs as the discs are the same size, but finding a set of gti 180 discs will be hard to. the are bigger than the standard 206 gti calipers.

dont quote me on this but i think the 2l HDI 307 has the same calipers or at least disc size as the gti-6 and 206 gt 180 calipers. but dont take it as gospel lol

you cant, gti180 and gti6 discs are a different thickness and offset.
all 307 283mm brakes are teh same as gti180 but gti6 is different.

williamsvts
8th March 2007, 13:10
there are many different discs sizes offsets and pad variations so you cannot just mix and match them. only some are compatable. you cant always go off pad either as the 1 variation of the 206 gti 266mm uses the same pad as the 307 283mm.

all 307s 1.6 + above use the 283mm brakes.