quick question

[craigy_87]

i have been going around with a massive dent in my drivers door for nearly a year now, it has no creases in it an from side on you can hard tell its there but i can notice it easily, av finally had enough, if i found a black saxo in a scrappy how much you think a driver side door would be an what kinda tools would i need to remove it?
thanx
craigy

[babers]

depends mate if it has a window in electric window motor and doorcard. i would say it would be about £50 to £80. just have to undo 2 torx screws. can be a bit of a c**t to get off tho.

[Predator_R32]

there held on by torx bolts mate should be two on the hinges and another one on the bar that only allows the door to open so far, cant remember off the top of my head the size though

as said there a bastartd to get out, if you damage the head your a bit buggered you will probablies need to drill them out or use a screw extractor

[craigy_87]

ahhh right thanks for the help :y:
think my mate said there was a black vtr in a scrapyard down his way i'll ask him if its still there an if i can use his tools

[craigy_87]

i'll try find a pic of the dent at its worst angle

[Predator_R32]

have you tried to push it out mate

[craigy_87]

av thought about it when it first happened i thought about it took the door card off but then shat it an put it back on lol
here some pics
at its worst: (know it looks like the door doesnt shut right here it does i just stupidly tried to open my door after i had taped bumpers up lol)
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/craigy_87/P1010060.jpg

not so bad here
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/craigy_87/P1010058.jpg

[babers]

i just asked the guy at the scrap yard to take the door off for me. and still only cost me £50. not 100% sure but think mk1 doors have different mounts then mk2 slightly lower. but i may be talking crap. lol

[craigy_87]

ahh righty something to look out for thanks :y:

[craigy_87]

found a better pic of when it happened
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/craigy_87/220620061275.jpg

[babers]

just try pushing it out mate. if not get the new door. but even if you do get most of it out it still may not look 100%.

[Predator_R32]

think that is gonna leave a crease mate cant tell really but id just get a new door, and like babers said let them take the door off for you lol there really easy to damage the head on them

EDIT from that pic id say you may as well have a try to push it out you have nothing to lose if you have one available somewere :y:

[craigy_87]

lol good point
i'll make sure i can source a new door then start pushing or may even take it to the local motor college place they may want something to practice on lol since there learning stuff like that

[Predator_R32]

lol at taking it to some cowboys lol ;)

id do it my self take doorcard off, peel the foam back and you should be able to get to it, try pushin it then if that dont work use a block of wood and hammer and try and TAP is out not bang it ok :)

[craigy_87]

yeah i remember reading about pushin it out but when it came to it i thought i'd fuk up when i cut through the sound proofin it looked like the dent was behind a metal bar thing attached to the metal of the door lol sorry av no idea how to describe it

[Predator_R32]

metal bar thats either the door handle rod or for the electric windows

[babers]

is it the bar for the runner on the window

[craigy_87]

well it wasnt so much a bar it was kinda flat i cant actually remember exactly it was about 11 months ago lol

[craigy_87]

does the door have a frame kinda thing inside it?

[babers]

sounds like the bar for the window runner. if it is you can take this out but have got to take the window out as well.

[babers]

will go and a look at my old door for you mate

[Predator_R32]

a cant remember lol hold on ill get a picture or if you can get one on the inside that would be better

[craigy_87]

lol sorry would take pics just now but was working early morning shift this morning so av not even thought of gettin dressed jus yet
appreciate the help though guys

[babers]

right there is a bar on the inside of the door in the middle but there is no frame other wise.

[Predator_R32]

does it look like this

http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/8a/ea/443f_1.JPG

[craigy_87]

think thats the 1 does it touch the metal of the door?

EDIT: yeah pretty sure thats the 1 predator looks familiar

[Predator_R32]

yeah thats the electric window part, its should be slightly bent in the pic it does come but bit of a nightmare to get back in :y:

[craigy_87]

think my dent is right behind it :n:

[babers]

no mate thats not it my door is stripped down and there is a bar right behind it

[Predator_R32]

babers you have lost me, you mean to say that aint for the electric window????

[babers]

babers you have lost me, you mean to say that aint for the electric window????

no thats is for the window, but there is a bar built into the door right behind,

[Predator_R32]

yeah thats for impact and bracing the door :)

yeah that doesnt come out so maybe you will have to get that door after all unless you take it to a bodyshop they should sort it out for quite cheapall they do is put welded rod on the dent grip a slide hammer on it and knock out the dent and probablies paint over it

i think theres specialist places about that do a mobile servie, have a look in the yellow pages :y:

[craigy_87]

lol ahhh confusin
am goin lookin for pics of stripped door

[craigy_87]

yeah thats for impact and bracing the door :)

ohh thats what i though it might be for

[babers]

got a pic on my phone but lefted my cable at home so cant upload it.

[Predator_R32]

like a say people like dent wizards etc may be able to sort it out

[babers]

think it would be cheaper just to replace the door, as they will have to take out the window and all the runners and electric motor.

[craigy_87]

found a pic of mattwesty's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/V7_MAT/my%20vts/black%20edition/IMGP1487.jpg

could either be the window motor thing like mentioned or that bar you can see inside the door behind the orange cable in the pic (its the same colour as the door)

[Predator_R32]

yeah mate thats part of the door is it bent????

[craigy_87]

am not sure mate would have to check it again
is it bad if its bent?
oh an tried to rep ya but gotta spread it first