Lowering 50mm...

[Luke]

Anyday now my lowering springs should be arriving, so I wondering if anyone can answer these questions for me.

1) - I'm going to uprate the shocks sometime this year so which ones am I best to buy?

2) When it's lowered 50mm, will I need to move the PAS pipe?

3) Will the tracking need re-doing?

4) Should I be ok to get on ramps etc for MOT/Servicing.

Thanks in advance.

Luke

[Predator_R32]

1. id get same make shocks as springs mate

2. yes you will just get something wedge in between the steering arm and pipe and bend it

3. id recommend it

4. yes should be ok on the ramps, you might not get a trolley jack under, also depends what ramp it is, if its just a drive on one then yes and if its the ones were you have to put the plate under the 4 jacking points you might have trouble, but all you do is roll it on some blocks of wood :y:

[Luke]

Gotta spread some more love around mate, sorry!Thanks for the information though mate, much appreciated.

I'm fitting my strutbrace is getting fitted this weekend and then lowered weekend after, so I shouldn't have to get under it again I don't think. I shouldn't get any rubbing though should I?

[chrismurra]

myne is down 50 havent had problens with ramps as of yet and i havent moved the pas pipe yet but i will be over the weekend if it needs doing tracking was fine afterwards. i fount the rear wheel to rub on the handbrake cable so i cabel tied it back a bit. big thanks to pred for recomending the suspension kit a while back its class not even that bumpy well not as bumpy as i thaught it wud be and it handels like a dreem

[chrismurra]

Gotta spread some more love around mate, sorry!Thanks for the information though mate, much appreciated.

I'm fitting my strutbrace is getting fitted this weekend and then lowered weekend after, so I shouldn't have to get under it again I don't think. I shouldn't get any rubbing though should I?

depends on the tyres mate i have 195/45/r16 and myne rubs on the back rubs like a mother fucker. im going to remove the rear bumper bracket as this isthe only place it rubs hope this helps mate :y: :y:

[Luke]

Well I only have VTR wheels...so it's 185/55 R14 so I'm VERY much doubt they will, but just wanted to ask the question.

Cheers mate, rep left :A:

[kevin_172]

the only problem i have is speed bumps, mine is ment to be 40mm but its more like 60 i think :(

[Luke]

I should be ok over the speed bumps near me as Craig has been over them and he is down around 60.

[chrismurra]

the only problem i have is speed bumps, mine is ment to be 40mm but its more like 60 i think :(

i havent came across any speed bump issues as of yet

[chrismurra]

Well I only have VTR wheels...so it's 185/55 R14 so I'm VERY much doubt they will, but just wanted to ask the question.

Cheers mate, rep left :A:

thanks for the rep i need it lol

[Luke]

No problems mate.

Anymore advice that anyone can give? I want to make sure I do everything right.

[Yates]

1) - Billies!

2) I didnt have a problem with mine at all

3) Never done mine and never had any problems

4) Had no problems again, fit on perfect to the mini ramps at hi q as well, was less than a cm from touching the ramp, but if you have problems, then all they need to do is reverse it on

[Scott]

1) Bilstein ones from GMC (or other supplier) they are shortened so should cope better with the drop.

2) Its not guaranteed on any model or ride height or wheel size, check it to be sure, see premium guide for fix.

3) Yes the tracking will need redoing, it might seem fine but you have made a major adjustment to the suspension and alignment. Or new tyres frequently.

4) Drive on ramps should be fine, 4 points will be a problem. I had some metral ramps made up that i could chuck in the car for mot etc... just incase

[hesslevtr]

1 biullies as mentiones

2 yes you will just jack car up at that side and bend with some bar

3 yes as it will be all out

4 depends what ramps mine only just goes on my MOT one (4poster) goes on 2 poster ramps ok the garage will probley have a few peaces of wood about just incase though

[Yates]

thinking about it, i did have mine done on the vtr

[Baz]

had no problems with rubbing on mine, even with a full car. I havent touched the PAS Pipe as i don't know where its ment to rub lol can't hear anything rubbing so i assume its ok lol

[Barry123]

depends on the tyres mate i have 195/45/r16 and myne rubs on the back rubs like a mother fucker. im going to remove the rear bumper bracket as this isthe only place it rubs hope this helps mate :y: :y:

As your keeping the alloy and tyres which are factory standard you should be ok. the reason being, even though you are lowering it, it would still be within a level that the wheel would move up and down through usual and aggressive driving.... thus no rubbing :) its when non factory standard wheels are put on, thats when rubbing issues start :y:

[hesslevtr]

had no problems with rubbing on mine, even with a full car. I havent touched the PAS Pipe as i don't know where its ment to rub lol can't hear anything rubbing so i assume its ok lol

look at the guides it tells you there

it will be rubbing through

[Predator_R32]

id check my PAS pipe people, i know you say you havent had problems but just check to see if the braided cover is frayed on the pipe that will indicate its been rubbing, and its a cotly repair, for the sake of 5 minutes to check and bend them its worth it id say

[hesslevtr]

id check my PAS pipe people, i know you say you havent had problems but just check to see if the braided cover is frayed on the pipe that will indicate its been rubbing, and its a cotly repair, for the sake of 5 minutes to check and bend them its worth it id say

yup there about £45 from citroen

my mates standard one rubs so im guessing all what are lowered are rubbing

[Baz]

fair point, gonna have a gander when i get home from college

[Predator_R32]

they might tke a few year to rub through but the wil eventually go through them as when the suspension is compressed thats when it rubs even if its for a few seconds :y:

[Hopcraft]

bit of a thread hijack, but luke, your cars gonna look schweet once down 50, your doing all the mods i wanna do once/if i get a vtr/s

[riggsy]

1/ Deff billies mate, you have the same springs as me, i was going to get the eibach set but as people have said the billies are actualy shorter!

2/ When ever you go over 40mm people say move the pas pipe!!

3/ Will the tracking need re doing, what kind of a question is that lol, of course it will you have just changed the shcoks and springs and it has ended up at a completely different ride height lol, think mate think!

4/ Yeah goes on ramps fine.

[Baz]

ive not had tracking done on mine either :p how much am i looking at?

[Predator_R32]

tracking will be quite a bit baz, unless your car is still under warranty

[Baz]

tracking will be quite a bit baz, unless your car is still under warranty

nope, we didn't bother with the warrenty. Think i'll roll on the silver wheels then when i get them back, save the Toyo's tread a lil and have a scoot round for prices

[Scott]

i was sub 20 quid when i used to get the tracking done

[riggsy]

£46 from a place near me and thats it going on the computer as its soo low!

I havent had it done since ive had it lol dont drive it that much tbh.

But you should realy get it done i will but im waiting untill i have uprated the shocks :)

[Luke]

Thanks very much for all the information guys on the lowering, I'll rep people later on this evening when I get back in. My car is still covered under warranty, but surely taking it back to the dealer would invalidate as I have lowered the car etc. I'll just take it to a local tyre place and pay the extra for it to be done.

I will also look at the Billies shocks, are they expensive? As I said it won't be until probably late summer time until I can replace them. I'll also leave the PAS pipe for a couple of months before moving it just to make sure.

It's getting lowered VERY soon too :)

[Luke]

People that can have rep from myself have done :A:

Thanks again guys, big help!

[hesslevtr]

yeah think the warrenty will be void after its lowered unless they dont notice but probley will

trackings about 20-40 wouldnt pay no more then that

[Luke]

Yeah, guy who looks after my car will do it cheap for me anyway!

I'm pretty sure they would notice the lowering too.

[riggsy]

Billies are not cheap, well actualy you do get what you pay for :)

[Luke]

I'll look into it mate, it's not a major priority to get them changed quickly anyway!

[riggsy]

I would get them done at the same time thought mate, saves money!

[Luke]

I can only afford the lowering/springs at the moment though.

[riggsy]

Hmmmm well i suppose labour will only cost you £40 for the front springs.

So you will be looking at another £40 when it comes to fitting the front shocks as the springs have to come out again!

Personal id wait and get it all done at the same time!!

[beastgtir]

Get a modified track rod end for the pas pipe, there was someone selling it on ebay for £40..

[Luke]

It won't cause major damage though if I don't.

I have known a few people who lowered there cars and left the shocks, I'm sure it will be ok.

[Barry123]

It won't cause major damage though if I don't.

I have known a few people who lowered there cars and left the shocks, I'm sure it will be ok.

it'll just reduce the life of shock in theory. but if you're changing them at a later date then you'll be fine.

[Luke]

Yeah, that's what I meant mate.

I know it will reduce the life, but I'll replace them before end of the year.