serious advice needed please look!!

[R4T]

ok here goes...i know you can climb a ladder onto a roof etc blah blah but what height are you aloud to work from a ladder?apparently anything over 8 feet and you have to work from a scaffolding or be harnessed in some way?im not clued up on all these regulations tbh,i have got to the stage on the job im doing its a very high wall and iam not working off a ladder at stupid heights with a bucket of paint and a roller,surely some1 can shine sum light on this for me as the people paying me are refusing to hire scaffolding as they think it isnt required!! im talking about at least a 20metre high wall by at least 30metres wide!

i will rep some1 with a serious answer or anything very helpful iam not continuing this job until i know what do as iam not risking my life for any amount of money!!!!

[boz]

anything over 1.3m means you need a safety harness mate ;)

use them all the time offshore lol

[R4T]

anything over 1.3m means you need a safety harness mate ;)

use them all the time offshore lol

but surely a ladder hook with a bucket of paint hooked onto it and a roller in my hand isnt very safe,i dont want health and safety driving passed and pulling me off nor do i want a big fine!! i cant see what is wrong with scaffolding,would you agree?

[boz]

scaffold is only needed when its nessisary (sp), but you wouldnt be able to use a harness on a ladder as if you fall, you will take the ladder with you lol

not 100% certain what the law states about scaffolding, will see if i can catch a safety rep for you and ask him ;)

[boz]

i painted my mam and dads hose with mobile scaffold, takes 2 mins to build up, and is ideal as its on rollers ;) you just move it along and put the brakes on ;) wear a harness with a laynard too bud ;)

think it was £100 for the scaffold for the week, and i could reach the gabel end of the house/ point of roof, with the scaffold ;)

[R4T]

cheers lad! its the fact they refuse to hire scaffolding and expect me to work of a ladder its madness lol if i had a harness and like you say fell id be dead as there is nothing safe to land on but tarmac! plus there is nobody to put there foot on the ladder to stop it slipping!! im not risking my life nooooooooooooooooooooooway!!

[boz]

ladder would take longer as you would have to keep moving.
scaffold means you could cover a bigger area as you can do the full length of the scaffold and a bit extra ;) lol

tell your gaffa that and it mite say him ;) lol

[boz]

you will only fall as far as the floor mate ;) lol

[R4T]

i painted my mam and dads hose with mobile scaffold, takes 2 mins to build up, and is ideal as its on rollers ;) you just move it along and put the brakes on ;) wear a harness with a laynard too bud ;)

think it was £100 for the scaffold for the week, and i could reach the gabel end of the house/ point of roof, with the scaffold ;)

i agree i suggested that as a 30second walk away guess what?there is a place that hire scaffodling the mobile 1 you suggested and all sorts of tools etc!! they just refuse point blank to do it and they said at the start anything i needed they would get!! but they dnt think this is reuiqred!!

[boz]

you will only fall as far as the floor mate ;) lol

dont fall with a harness, they knack your nut sack when you fall lmbo

[R4T]

you will only fall as far as the floor mate ;) lol

yeh and people will ask what was the last thing that when through his head?

A.his bloody arse!!!

to high to risk falling lol

[boz]

ladders are fine for using to climb stuff, but shit for proping against a wall to paint, as the angel they lay against the wall at reduces when you get higher. its dodgy high up trying to stretch and paint at the same time.

your safe, cover more area over a shorter time using scaffold than you do using a ladder.

tell your gaffa to sign a bit of paper saying he is allowing you to go up there on a ladder, when you have requested to use scaffold. then tell him to write that he will accept all liability as your employer if you fall or have an accident ;)

see what he says lol

[boz]

yeh and people will ask what was the last thing that when through his head?

A.his bloody arse!!!

to high to risk falling lol

lol, i always say that to myself. i used to hate heights, but im used to them now.

peeps say dont look down?? dont know why,
its when you look up that messes with your head, you see the clouds moving with the wind and your head/neck try to follow lmbo

[R4T]

ladders are fine for using to climb stuff, but shit for proping against a wall to paint, as the angel they lay against the wall at reduces when you get higher. its dodgy high up trying to stretch and paint at the same time.

your safe, cover more area over a shorter time using scaffold than you do using a ladder.

tell your gaffa to sign a bit of paper saying he is allowing you to go up there on a ladder, when you have requested to use scaffold. then tell him to write that he will accept all liability as your employer if you fall or have an accident ;)

see what he says lol

lol im working by myself mate,i mainly do modding cars but i saw this job and thought hmm a cuple of grand easy here as they offered to pay for whatever now its come to this!! bit pissed of about this im going to end up losing ym temper and telling them if you pay peanuts you get a monkey,but monkeys arent stupid enough to swing from a fecking ladder!

[boz]

lol
i would tell them you dont think its safe

[R4T]

lol, i always say that to myself. i used to hate heights, but im used to them now.

peeps say dont look down?? dont know why,
its when you look up that messes with your head, you see the clouds moving with the wind and your head/neck try to follow lmbo

haha i hate when that happens and then you look down your like wtf!! fortunate for me there is no clouds today its pure sunshine:D

[R4T]

lol
i would tell them you dont think its safe

i have they wont listen they are rich they own a nightclub in liverpool but live up here!! they own a shop here and a pub and wont hire feckin scaffolding lol arghhhhhh

[boz]

have a bash, tell them you will have a go, if you feel dodgy tell them nope or tell them you can go as far as you can manage, then they will have to get scaffold in ;)
that way you are covering your arse ;)

rich peeps always try to save cash lol tight gets.

safety should always come first, thats just my opinion

[R4T]

i dnt feel safe even trying to go up that height with nobody footing the ladder so it dosnt slip!! the wife obviously wears the trousers in there marriage,she comes out and looks at me for like 20minutes buggers off speaking to herself not even a hello or would you like a cuppa! miserable bitch

[Richmt11]

Im not majorly clued up but out H&S guy here makes us get the cherry picker out if were above 2m.