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Hannah
10th May 2007, 22:33
My friend recently died after having her tonsils removed and the BBC have covered her story, I'd just like to warn people that it is a very serious operation and should be thought about thoroughly before going ahead.

Link to BBC... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/6641013.stm)

There is also the video link next to her photo.

Basically Kayleigh had her tonsils removed in a routine operation and it wasn't until a week later that she suffered complications. This included coughin up copius amounts of blood which lead to her haemorraging(sp), this then put a massive stress on her brain which led to brain inflamation and her brain stem breaking, she then later fell unconscious.

Obvously we cannot change the past but I'd like to warn people the operation is more serious than it sounds.

Many thanks, Hannah

xsmile_be_happyx
10th May 2007, 22:35
thanks for the info hannah, and sorry to hear about your friend, i was meant to be getting mine taken out last year, but then i decided against it because the doctor said, that the complications for someone my age, would be worse, than a young child :hug:

Jaytee
10th May 2007, 22:44
sorry to hear about your friend hannah, i didnt know it was such a serious op like, i nearly had mine out as a kid but doctor said i didn't need do. cheers for the info like.

Viper
10th May 2007, 22:53
sorry to hear about kayleigh, hannah!

and thankyou for the heads up!

i never knew there were such risks in the op. i thought it was a simple in/out job!

Ste
11th May 2007, 07:32
sorry to hear about kayleigh, hannah!

and thankyou for the heads up!

i never knew there were such risks in the op. i thought it was a simple in/out job!


Awww sorry to hear about this....

I agree with Viper, i though you went in had icecream and came out.....shows how much the NHS have slipped up!!!

lottaroo
11th May 2007, 07:34
Sorry to hear about your friend Kayleigh x

Thanks for the info hannah, docs have been trying to have me get the op for years now as Im really prone to infections. Defo made my mind up now.

Clouds_mate
11th May 2007, 07:37
Bloody hell, i always thought it was a easy simple OP.

Sorry to hear about your loss Hannah

Karl
11th May 2007, 07:39
no one told me this when i had mine removed :'(

sry for the loss.

Hannah
11th May 2007, 08:20
Thanks guys and girls.

This is exactly my point, 99% of people have no idea how serious the operation is and it's because of this that my friend died at only 18 years old.

LittleDude101
11th May 2007, 08:22
had no idea something like that could happen from what comes across as a simple routine operation!

Sorry to hear about your friend

Hannah
11th May 2007, 08:23
Sorry, I know sax-p's not really the place but people need to be more aware! :y:

Viper
11th May 2007, 08:27
nothing to be sorry about at all hannah!

the NHS have made a big fuck up, with not informing people about the risks. so people need to be told! you are doing a very good job!!

:hug:

Mark51
11th May 2007, 08:31
sorry to hear about that Hannah, when you think of going in for an OP like that most people think its an easy in and out.

Hannah
11th May 2007, 08:33
sorry to hear about that Hannah, when you think of going in for an OP like that most people think its an easy in and out.


Yeh exactly, thing is she didn't fall ill until a week after her op.

Worst thing is she was a nurse so when she started to cough up blood she knew she was going to die.

The_STIG
11th May 2007, 10:26
sorry to haer about that, i must have been horrible for her knowing what was happening good lass for giving us the heads up thought it was a simple op my self x

Hannah
6th June 2007, 20:55
Coroner Results.

The inquest has been done and has come back with nothing untoward. She was in 'The Sun' today, our local paper and on the news.

They described that 1 in 40,000 people die from having this operation and that Kayleigh had suffered from a burst vessel in the back of her throat and had coughed up close to 1 and a half pints on blood as she muttered her last words to her boyfriend Dave 'Babe, I love you. But I'm going to die' She then had blood in her lungs which cut off oxygen to her brain causing her to have 2 heart attacks and then falling unconscious.

FurioGaz
6th June 2007, 20:58
I saw her page on bebo a while back, brought tears to my eyes. absolutely awfull.. Thanks for this btw. and sorry for your loss x

al_VTR
6th June 2007, 20:58
Didn't realise there was such a risk, definitely made me more aware of it.

Sorry to hear about your friend Hannah.

Hannah
6th June 2007, 21:00
I saw her page on bebo a while back, brought tears to my eyes. absolutely awfull.. Thanks for this btw. and sorry for your loss x

I know what you mean, Still does for me now sometimes.

Didn't realise there was such a risk, definitely made me more aware of it.

Sorry to hear about your friend Hannah.

Nor did I, so thought this might help.

Thanks:)

Viper
6th June 2007, 21:01
was the burst blood vessel just very unlucky, or was it due to shoddy work?

Hannah
6th June 2007, 21:03
was the burst blood vessel just very unlucky, or was it due to shoddy work?


Not sure dude. The paper said...

'There is nothing to suggest the operation took place in anything other than normal fashion'

So just one of those things I think.

Barry123
6th June 2007, 21:06
'Babe, I love you. But I'm going to die'

f**king hell i feel like crying after reading that. thats a choker.

Hannah
6th June 2007, 21:09
f**king hell i feel like crying after reading that. thats a choker.

Yeh I was the same when Dave told me. He also told me he proposed to her when she was unconscious.

saxoash
6th June 2007, 21:09
f**king hell i feel like crying after reading that. thats a choker.

So is reading her bebo page mate

Barry123
6th June 2007, 21:11
So is reading her bebo page mate

fuck that man, dont think i could read that to be honest.

Danhunt
6th June 2007, 21:11
aww that sucks, im so sorry for your loss :(
Thanks btw for posting this, i have alot of throat problems linked with my tonsils, and someone recommended me get them removed. I didnt understand there was such a risk! i think it better to steer clear of the op.

MarkyG
6th June 2007, 21:13
Thanks for the info Hannah, very sorry to hear about your friend, my little cousin, well i say little, she is 14, is having hers removed and i have given my uncle the weblink for him to read over, thanks for the info!

xsmile_be_happyx
6th June 2007, 21:14
her bebo page is so sad, it really doesnt bring tears to your eyes, what a waste of a life, and hannah you and your mates are great friends to here :hug:

Hannah
6th June 2007, 21:15
Thanks for the comments guys:)

This just proves that they need to have more infomation available about the higher risks.

Kay's mum said she'd looked for info and had not found anywhere the risks of death.

Robbo
6th June 2007, 21:27
sorry to hear this was your friend. i read about it in the star today and supposedly its a 1 in 40,000 chance.

really bad news :(

XlilshexijX
6th June 2007, 21:37
Im so sorry for your loss :hug:

And I have to say I think its great that your trying to spread the word of the risks anyway you can. Well done. =]

saxooxas
6th June 2007, 21:37
sorry to hear about that!

barrett
6th June 2007, 21:38
I'm sorry to hear that Hnanner, complications do occur in surgery though.

no one told me this when i had mine removed :'(

sry for the loss.

You dont need to be told, its the technicalities of the law. You only need to be given sufficient information about the procedure and informed that some complications are possible and can occur. To be told every single possible coutcome of a operatin would take days and be very frightening. If yoou ask you will be given more info.

nothing to be sorry about at all hannah!

the NHS have made a big fuck up, with not informing people about the risks. so people need to be told! you are doing a very good job!!

:hug:

The NHS is at no way in the wrong here, the complication was unfrseeable. It was not a error in the operation that caused the problem.

Coroner Results.

The inquest has been done and has come back with nothing untoward. She was in 'The Sun' today, our local paper and on the news.

They described that 1 in 40,000 people die from having this operation and that Kayleigh had suffered from a burst vessel in the back of her throat and had coughed up close to 1 and a half pints on blood as she muttered her last words to her boyfriend Dave 'Babe, I love you. But I'm going to die' She then had blood in her lungs which cut off oxygen to her brain causing her to have 2 heart attacks and then falling unconscious.

let's think about that information, 1 in 40 000 is such a small amount. That means, 1 in every 40 000 people who have that operation are at risk of having this, lets think of that in percentgests 0.0025 %. Thats probably the chances of gettinghit by a car when crossing the road.

Thats probably less than the risks of having an anesthetic

Thanks for the info Hannah, very sorry to hear about your friend, my little cousin, well i say little, she is 14, is having hers removed and i have given my uncle the weblink for him to read over, thanks for the info!

As said earlier in the thread the risk in children is much lower.

Thanks for the comments guys:)

This just proves that they need to have more infomation available about the higher risks.

Kay's mum said she'd looked for info and had not found anywhere the risks of death.

If asked the information will be provided. AS said above, telling every patient of every risk associated with an operation would mean the surgeon would spend more time consenting people for the operations than actually performing them. There is a minimum amount of information that legally needs to be given, and the rest is upto the individual as to whether they want to know.

Everything in medicine has a risk associated with it. Just taking the medications a doctor prescribes can have a risk of death.

Sorry if this isnt really what you wanted to hearHannah, I am sorry for the loss of your friend, and I am setting the facts straight for everyone.

Luke
6th June 2007, 21:48
God that is really bad, really gets to you. I had my tonsils removed when I was 6, but I didn't realise it could be serious is something is to go wrong.

Sorry to hear about your pal Hannah.

Robb
6th June 2007, 21:49
read this in the paper on the train to work today. didnt realise you were a friend of hers. such a sad story, but even worse when you actually realise the people it effects. sorry to hear it...

Ryan
6th June 2007, 21:56
all surgery is dangerous. we as the general public are to nieve.

its sad that your friend died, at least it seems that some good has come from it and awareness of the dangers increasing.

something that will be a real legacy imo.

Hannah
6th June 2007, 22:10
Sorry if this isnt really what you wanted to hearHannah, I am sorry for the loss of your friend, and I am setting the facts straight for everyone.

I know what your saying. I'm not denying the fact it's rare or it was the fault of the NHS. I'm just trying to make people aware as I myself had no idea you could die from it. Just thought you had it done and ate loads of ice cream. Even though 1 in 40,000 isn't alot it's still a death. It's still someones family member or friend. Just think the risk of death should be made more aware.

Hannah
6th June 2007, 22:11
read this in the paper on the train to work today. didnt realise you were a friend of hers. such a sad story, but even worse when you actually realise the people it effects. sorry to hear it...

What paper did you read it in? As I think a few published it.

Robb
6th June 2007, 22:14
What paper did you read it in? As I think a few published it.

was the Daily Mail, sorta half way in...

Hannah
6th June 2007, 22:15
was the Daily Mail, sorta half way in...

Was it a big article? the sun only had a little few inches column.

Predator_R32
6th June 2007, 23:03
very sorry to hear that but oh my god, i get tonsilitas a lot but ii dont bother going to the doctors about it as it goes after a few days, i was actually going to get mine took out but i wont

DREAMER
7th June 2007, 00:07
my deepest sympathy goes out to you hannah and kays family thank you for makin sure people no the risks of the op im sure she'll be smiling proudly in heaven. andy x

Robb
7th June 2007, 09:02
Was it a big article? the sun only had a little few inches column.

half a page so yeh quite a big write up however i think that sorta story should be closer to the front. can scan and upload if ya want?

acemastr
7th June 2007, 10:02
I'm literally just getting over tonsilitis right now, second time in 6 months. I did consider the op but now i'm thinking otherwise. sorry to hear.

Hannah
7th June 2007, 13:45
half a page so yeh quite a big write up however i think that sorta story should be closer to the front. can scan and upload if ya want?

yeh that would be great thanks! :)

I found the article that was on the news aswell if anyone wants to watch it.

It's on www.meridiantv.co.uk and just search Kayleigh Kennard and comes up with the video:y:

CloVis
7th June 2007, 13:58
Sorry to hear this..
I was supposed to have mine out last year, it was booked and everything. But for some reason I just didnt go, I couldnt bring myself to it. Im 20 so i thought i was being silly, i didnt no there was a high risk!
hope your ok.

Hannah
7th June 2007, 14:01
Thanks for comments guys and girlies.

I'm fine thanks:)

daz223
7th June 2007, 17:35
thanks for that sorry bout the friend and am defo not getting tonsels removed now :|

Leo
7th June 2007, 17:47
sorry to hear that. i not long ago said to somebody here that tonsils shouldnt be removed and only a last resort as years ago they pulled them out at any excuse because they thought they didn't do anything. i got laugthed at for saying that too

CampDavid
8th June 2007, 08:30
As barratt says, you can't blame the NHS. 1 in 40k is a very low number, in fact it's amazing that we can remove what is effectively an organ and only 1 in 40k people will have any issue.

On the flip side, Hannah's right, people should think about the risks. The body is an amazingly complex thing and surgery shouldn't ever be seen as a small step. People die from all sorts of proicedures that are "straight forward", including brest enlargment and other cosmetic surgery.