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jsdvtr 22nd August 2009 13:36

Well you keep thinking that then and stop givin shit on peoples thread. Ye probably will get standalone as will be camming also i think and want 200-250 bhp when its finished.

sliderz 22nd August 2009 13:38

good look hope every thing works out will be nice to see a progress thread on the turbo side of things nice car by the way :A:

jsdvtr 23rd August 2009 13:54

Where can i get vts turbo manifold from, I know cituning do them but dont sell seperately.

sliderz 23rd August 2009 14:01

yes they do sell them seperate ive phoned them loads ....250 they are or with down pipe to about 490... 15 delivery

jsdvtr 23rd August 2009 15:29

That seems a very good price. Could i get a down pipe made from a custom exhaust place or not as they do them where my mate works and could get it on cheap maybe.

jsdvtr 28th August 2009 17:31

What mods and turbo should i use for roughly a 200bhp figure and what psi to run at on low boost. I had been in ben vts saxo vts turbo running 180bhp at 5psi with t2 turbo, cituning kit. Ive thought about getting it cammed too to add the extra bit off power and a higher rpm. What ecu should i use or can i use standard with mf2, etc.

ben_vts 28th August 2009 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr (Post 3631447)
What mods and turbo should i use for roughly a 200bhp figure and what psi to run at on low boost. I had been in ben_vts saxo vts turbo running 180bhp at 5psi with t2 turbo, cituning kit. Ive thought about getting it cammed too to add the extra bit off power and a higher rpm. What ecu should i use or can i use standard with mfi, etc.

Mine may well be around the 200 mark as i havnt had it on rollers since getting my ecu on. So a similar set up to mine should get you to 200bhp running low boost. I would still change the ecu if i was you. Stand alone, bigger injectors, remap and your sorted with management and the car will be running safely.

jsdvtr 28th August 2009 17:39

Adapter for the standard manifold to the turbo, Want 4 branch one tbh.
downpipe from the turbo- Ebay
oil feed line
oil return line
boss welded into the sump for the return
Boost pipes- Ebay
Intercooler- Ebay £110 new
silicone hoses of various bends
silicone vac hose for dump valve and boost gauges
boost gauge- Got
dump valve- Can i get from any car?
2.5bar map sensor- Ford one £28 ebay, ok?
4 bigger injectors (use dastek and map sensor module to run this option)- Which car from?
MF2 and sigcon (runs extra one or two injectors along side the oe 4 if not going for dastek option) Where can get these?

jsdvtr 28th August 2009 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben_vts (Post 3631476)
Mine may well be around the 200 mark as i havnt had it on rollers since getting my ecu on. So a similar set up to mine should get you to 200bhp running low boost. I would still change the ecu if i was you. Stand alone, bigger injectors, remap and your sorted with management and the car will be running safely.

Im just stuck for the manifold tbh. Could you send me your spec so i have a base to go against like which injectors your using.
Turbo will probs be a t2 or t25.

ben_vts 28th August 2009 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxova (Post 3613490)
you wont turbo anything, you'll just keep dreaming...

Who is this giving you shit jamie. what a bellend :boxing:

ben_vts 28th August 2009 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr (Post 3631492)
Im just stuck for the manifold tbh. Could you send me your spec so i have a base to go against like which injectors your using.
Turbo will probs be a t2 or t25.

Yeah off the top of my head its :

- Garret T2
- Miltek 4branch + downpipe
- Intercooler.? Fitted when i bought it
- Predator ECU + Wideband controller
- PICO injectors ( havnt bought yet, will be doing this month hopefully)

Not sure on the oil feed/return but if it helps i can get some pics for you and put them on here.

jsdvtr 28th August 2009 18:07

How much are those injectors? Heard 330c are good. The gti6 ones fit aswell so was maybe thinking of getting them depending what power there good for. Going to see if you can get the miltek mani straight from them or if another dealer as cituning dont sell on own i dont think.
I take it can get some braided hosing for the oil feed, etc?
Intercooler will be similar to your but off ebay for £110 posted which seems a bargain tbh. Boost pipes usure of too.

ben_vts 28th August 2009 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr (Post 3631556)
How much are those injectors? Heard 330c are good. The gti6 ones fit aswell so was maybe thinking of getting them depending what power there good for. Going to see if you can get the miltek mani straight from them or if another dealer as cituning dont sell on own i dont think.
I take it can get some braided hosing for the oil feed, etc?
Intercooler will be similar to your but off ebay for £110 posted which seems a bargain tbh. Boost pipes usure of too.

Yeah iam getting the 330cc ones. Think they just over 60quid each. Never heard the gti6 ones fit. I know the clio 172 has the same. Yeah all the hosing comes braided on the oil feed. You unsure of the boost pipes.?

3cott 29th August 2009 08:17

Im geting a tubular manni and a down pipe made for £650...

jsdvtr 29th August 2009 08:36

where from?

3cott 29th August 2009 08:37

From a guy i know;)

jsdvtr 1st September 2009 08:14

I think im going for a t2 turbo running low boost of about 6psi.

jsdvtr 23rd September 2009 17:14

Im going to turbo the vtr now as ive changed mind with trying to find a vts thats low mileaged and i think tbh that a vtr turbo power would be fine for me atm.
Please could i have peoples specs so i can get a base of what sort of stuff i need to get a i know what i need but unsure of what stuff like map sensor, which turbo, etc.

sliderz 23rd September 2009 17:56

cool vtr turbos are good any how very quick what head you got the black or silver

jsdvtr 23rd September 2009 17:58

Silver 98bhp. Cars on a 03 plate.

sliderz 23rd September 2009 18:07

are you the guy who bought the turbo kit the cituning one

jsdvtr 23rd September 2009 20:15

No mate just starting off now buying.

jsdvtr 27th September 2009 12:06

Is this the boost pipes i need or 3'' ones?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5-TURBO-INTE...d=p3286.c0.m14

Looking at a intercooler like this but the inlets are 2.25'' not 2.5'' and its not too big, seems perfect sort of size for low boost.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alloy-Front-Mo...d=p3286.c0.m14

I think going for a t25 turbo.
Can i buy any dump valve as long as get the t piece of the same car as what dump vavles for?
What bar map sensor should i get, etc.
Im buying a mf2 with 5th injector as going to be using that for time being.

jsdvtr 27th September 2009 12:09

Should i get a afr like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alpha-Air-Fuel...d=p3286.c0.m14
Or a guage one or does it not really matter but these ones look smart as.

blackie_2k5 27th September 2009 14:53

vtr inlet is 2.25" so although most wont use that size pipe its best to use the same as reducing and stepping the pipes will fuck up the boost, plus its around 10% loss in power for every 90 degree bend in your pipe work, try to keep bends smooth and have no abrasive angles, the intercooler thats brand new on ebay is also 2.25" so will keep in good with the system, if your serious about boosting your car do alot of research first mate

jsdvtr 28th September 2009 13:03

Is there anywhere i can buy one made but then it wont go with intercooler will it as wont be same unless intercooler is made for? Hows other people done theres?

stueyp 29th September 2009 07:14

All i can say is take it to the turbo doc, 500 quid job done. no shiny ass parts but who cares. at the end of the day its a saxo and is never goin to break any records!!

jsdvtr 29th September 2009 10:54

I want to do it myself and i dont want shoddy parts like some people on here though. Its getting done properly even on a budget setup to start off with.

saxohull 29th September 2009 11:11

whats the turbo doc?????

stueyp 29th September 2009 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr (Post 3714926)
I want to do it myself and i dont want shoddy parts like some people on here though. Its getting done properly even on a budget setup to start off with.

Fair shout mate, The Doc as he is called has done lots of VTR conversions and a couple of VTS's too, they have all been running Months now without skippin a beat, Know what you mean about doing it yourself though. hows much do you think it will cost you in total?

stueyp 29th September 2009 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxohull (Post 3714957)
whats the turbo doc?????

the Turbo Doctor. his kit is exactly the same as cituning but home made, and a 5th of the price!!! the guy really knows his shit about turbo'd cars as he has over 15 experiance in modding cars.

hard_corejoeboy 29th September 2009 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr (Post 3601259)
Well if got forged to run big power then id only do to vts as no point spending silly money on vtr but if just wanted a low boost set up then wouldnt change internals and go for vtr engine as was looking at the mani of vtr t on here that he has forsale atm. But not sure to go turbo or bodies although the sound of bodies would be good and be more reliable on the cheaper option but would deffinately prefer to turbo if can so for same sort of money. Would like to get car around 0-60 in 7 secs and about 180bhp so 200bhp per tonne roughly.

If you go back a few issues in fastcar saxo180 did that with just 'normal' mods no bodies or turbo...

manc 29th September 2009 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by stueyp (Post 3715045)
the Turbo Doctor. his kit is exactly the same as cituning but home made, and a 5th of the price!!! the guy really knows his shit about turbo'd cars as he has over 15 experiance in modding cars.

That doesnt really answer the question, does he have a website, phone number... you have any links to work he has done before???

Thanks. :y:

blackie_2k5 29th September 2009 19:52

i think its a load of poo tbf

Sophia_Bush 29th September 2009 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 (Post 3716470)
i think its a load of poo tbf

reckon big log, sloppy water splash or a clean break?

blackie_2k5 29th September 2009 20:23

sloppy wter splash springs into action ofr this one

sexoturbs 29th September 2009 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr (Post 3709710)
Should i get a afr like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alpha-Air-Fuel...d=p3286.c0.m14
Or a guage one or does it not really matter but these ones look smart as.

:y: thats prob the easiest to use.

sexoturbs 29th September 2009 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr (Post 3709700)
Is this the boost pipes i need or 3'' ones?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5-TURBO-INTE...d=p3286.c0.m14

Looking at a intercooler like this but the inlets are 2.25'' not 2.5'' and its not too big, seems perfect sort of size for low boost.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alloy-Front-Mo...d=p3286.c0.m14

I think going for a t25 turbo.
Can i buy any dump valve as long as get the t piece of the same car as what dump vavles for?
What bar map sensor should i get, etc.
Im buying a mf2 with 5th injector as going to be using that for time being.

:y: intercooler will be ok, make sure you measure up. saxos are restricted for space which you will soon find out.

im not to sure about them pipe kits as the saxo is restricted for space so you will find half the kit wont be needed. if you mount the intercooler then take it to a company close to you they should be able to measure it up for you and give you what you need.

sexoturbs 29th September 2009 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush (Post 3716611)
reckon big log, sloppy water splash or a clean break?

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 (Post 3716621)
sloppy wter splash springs into action ofr this one

now thats just nasty! ha

matts1185 30th September 2009 17:25

the turbo doc is registered on this forum. he did my car before i bought it. just stage 1 kit its not bad just need new clutch to see how well it does go


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