i got JL Audio 5.25 comps and they produce the best sound you've herd! wel..i've herd cant fault them atall! i think you pay for what you get.. and they were only about £220. oh and if your thinking of getting some speakers dont look for manafactures quoted "max power handaling" the important word is...MAX..it wil never get that high until the speaker blows! look for RMS which is a sure sign of the quailty of the speakers your getting

Are you sure you have put the screws in them and not just put them in there! I have never had this problem and dont know anyone who has! ! At the end of the day it is personal preference, some people prefer 6x9's some dont, if i was you i would go to a good car audio place and listen to some different type of speakers they got and tell them what you want and i am sure they will be able to advise on what would be best !

personally i think 6x9's are qualitly as long as you dont get the cheap ones and are set up correctly !

theyr all good until you get a sub though! when i get my install done il take mine out but until then im happy with em as theyr alot better than the standard crap you get in the rears lol

Mine work fine with a sub so i dont know what people are on about when they say they dont work with a sub cause they do!?

same here!


and as for screaming out steal me................ever heard of a stealth shelf?!?

u couldnt tell i had anythin in the saxo

I love this topic, woudl all the people how say that 6x9s are clear state what quilifcations and expearnce thay have in judging quility audio and car audio?


Music is reocered in stereo, ie it has a left and a right channel theres no frony and rear channels recored exepet in the rare and expensive DVD audio 5.1 format.

hurrah pro back up has arrived!

not been funny but can you please read what you are writing cause that is pretty hard to read.

Also i dont see what it has to do with the quality of 6x9's by saying that it only has left channel and right channel, yes we know this and when you buy a set of speakers you get 2 speakers one for the left, one for the right!

6x9's are down to personnal choice, some people like them some dont, thats the way it is, bit like Marmite!

im just confused very confused so from what i understand is dont get 6x9s but get quality speakers to replace the originals and some decent sub and you laughing?

Thats all you need, componets up front and a sub thats the best quility system you can get.

Sorry for the mistakes in my typeing/spelling but I often type too quick.

Bascally what I am trying to tell you is that any rear speakers have a detrimental effect on a car audio system.

sorry but thats shit, have you ever sat in the back of a car which has just got front speakers and a sub, it sounds shit!! If rear speakers were that bad why to Bose, Alpine, Vibe, etc all have them in their show cars ??

because they are show cars, not sound cars.

Its not shit its true, do you go to a concert and stand facing the back of the hall?

Who gives a toss about people in the back, do you drive from the back? If you want the best from your system in SQ then 6x9s dont feature, nor have they featured in any of the best systems in the world

i meant the show cars to show you the quality of their stereo systems!!!

No you don’t face the back in a concert but do you have speakers behind you ?? yes!!

no you don’t sit in the back but i like to get the best sound from all around the car, which in my opinion means good front components and some rear speakers, i prefer 6x9's but some people don’t so just replace the standards!

As i have already said, it is personal preference and this topic could go on for a long time

i agree it is personal preference.

Most concerts dont have speakers behind you, it all comes from the stage hence the massive stacks

A proper ice car i.e. the ones that actually compete will not have rears speakers and least of all 6x9s.

show cars for instance is made to be wild to show off the range of products, if you actually listen most of the big show cars they sound pretty terrible as their using that many speakers of mixed sizes etc that its a collision of sound.

yeah i agree with that, the cars dont sound the best due to the range in speakers!

It is not always about the speakers you are using though, it is weather you have them running of an amp and the levels on the amp are set up correctly. When i install my system it does not take long to fit it all but messing around to get the levels perfect take the time.

Give me an RTA machine and a couple of cars. One with rear speaker and one without. I bet £100 to the charity of your choise that the car not running rears has a lot cleaner sound without levels all over the shop.

Big companys show cars always have a wide range of speakers in them including the rear as there showing off what they make.

I have never yet sat in the back of my car while driving. I can not reach the pedals and stearing wheel from back there.

As for 6x9s being quality if there set up right. This is true they make great door stops, paper weights and magnets.

Again the concert thing. At a huge concert there may be speakers behind you but they will still face the back there just there to carry the sound furtherm for people at the back (I sould know I have been to Glastonbury three times). Look at the speakers at the front there will be a left and a right set not any more.

ok when did i say i drive my car when sitting in the back, cause i think you will find i didnt if you read!

i said for the people sitting in the back, i.e friends! in my ibiza i ran a lot of speakers, amps and subs! and i must say it sounded a lot better than other systems i have heard! Personally i like 6x9's, as i have said some people dont. This topic will go on forever and it is down to personal preference!!

i think this should now be locked as it has all the information it needs about 6x9's!!

You're all sayin that 6x9's are bad on the parcel shelf, but would it sound better if they were on a custom shelf that didnt cover the whole of the boot? That way more air could get in? I dnt reli have a clue bout this kinda thing, it was just an idea

I have 6x9's in my parcel shelf and 2 twin vibe subs. Wot i did was cut a vent in the middle ov the 6x9's. I then turn my amp and 6x9's off. The subs didnt even move the 6x9's. Think letting more air into the boot helped. Makes the subs sound better aswell. Even a ex sound engineer said it sounds wicked. I think its up2 the person about 6x9's. I have good front speakers aswell.

A sound engineer that approves of speakers shaped so they cant work as efficently and are trying to do an impossible job of reproducing the whole sound spectrum, kwality.

So scott, ok your saying 6x9s are absolutely shit and are no good at all becasue they arent even shaped cto work efficently , but i put this to you surely they do there job because otherwise why would they be sold or brought? (im no specialist by the way im just interested in the topic) there must be a place people can put there 6x9s that they can be used effectiley?

Why must there be? Why are they sold: people buy them, why are they bought: because people dont know any better and beleive the sales blurb.

Im not saying they are no good at all, im saying there is far better

6x9's are usless with subs, they look ugly, sound shit and are a waste of money. if your going to have any speakers in the back have components running off a amp which is set to mid and hi-range(i dont know proepr way of putting that lol)

ok thats fair enuf im honestly shocked tho that for aso may years ppl have put 6x9s in the parcel shelf for nothing!!!

its clear marketing, look at all the performance mods sold to people that dont do what they claim, same with most things unfortunately :(

yeh thats true i never thought of it like that, shit!! late off my break see you all tomorrow

Sorry iv just read this thread, so r 6x9's completly useless or only if u have a sub in the boot aswell? Iv had 6x9's for years and they have always sounded fine? But them Im no expert...

lets straighten this out.

No, 6x9s are not completely useless. There are far better alternatives but if you personally like them go for it.

If using 6x9s in a parcel shelf with sub in the boot they are going to clash,, no questions its physics. You will also be damaging them, they may last years maybe not.

Im not speaking and jsut following the crowd, i used to have 6x9s, in fact i even had 4 of them way back when i was a youth when i didnt know any better. I then researched and changed to sub at the back and components up front and there is absolutely no comparison for sound quality and the volume that the sound quality is kept to. I now have spent a fair wedge on just sub and amp and the back, 17cm components and amp for the front and its never sounded better

scott you got any pics of you ice install

i took my 6x9 out after a week ocs they were crap no one should put them in there a waste ov time

i think i have the solution to the 6*9 problem!

i know, i know....... i'm v smart. lol

I hope them subs are designed to run free air (IB).

I reckon you car will get broken in to in no time at all aswell!

nah i dont think you do....hope you was joking! that parcel shelf will make more noise than the subs!

it used to till i shucked two support struts under her, also put insulation and acoustic carpeting over it so it's a tight fit and no rattles! as for free air subs...... i hve no idea, but they are big and the boot is small so she's all good! :-)

If they aint free air subs maet there not going to last long!

what you actually running them off?

Won't they just rattle lots and shake the parcel shelf even worse than the 6x9s would?

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i have 6X9s in my shelf and it sounds ok.i also have a bass box and a 450 amp on the bk of it but i want
all new sound system as some of my tunes dont sound the same can any 1 post or send me a few ideas on how to get the best sound in my car and alsoa few photos of any nice lay outs in the boot cheers

Ok i don't get ne of this lads, If 6x9's are not very good, why are they prodiced in the first instance? Why dont all cars just come with a good set of front speaker and a woofer in the back? or why dont these companies just sell really good front speakers expensively. Why do 6x9's exist at all if they arent very good?

I used to have just a set of fron sony xplods and a sony xplod sub and amp and it was ok, then i got a set of 6x9's (450w) and it sounded a hundred times better. When i got the saxo, i put all that in there, Plus a set of 3 way sony xplod 6x9's and the sound is fantastic.

We get dynaudio in to do some of the cars at our work because its an optional extra and the sound in my saxx is better than something that cost neartly a grand as an optional extra onb a brand new car. plus, when were out camping or that, theres nothing better than setting up my saxo with the boot open the parcel shelf down and cranking up the sounds for a good old partt. So how can 6x9's be, essentially worthless?

firstly i wou;ldnt touch sony

if people buy 6x9s of course they will sell them

blame max power and mags alike :P


also if you havent heard a proper install of course youll like yours :)