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Would this be adequate enough for a paddle clutch? Wont bend or anything unlike the MA fork levers.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLUTCH-FOR...item4cf7061188 I know its the same one listed as in the first post of the thread but wasnt sure if would need something stronger. Also has anyone got any measurements of BE mounts for saxo/106 as wanting to make my own but cant until i have these as i would like to have everything ready before i start the conversion. |
Thats the cable one so its slighty longer. If you are worried about strength reinforce it. Im gonna weld some bits to mine to strengthen it up
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[QUOTE=Ax_beefy;5624386]Someone correct me if I'm wrong but they are more suited to higher powered conversions as they are stronger QUOTE]
Can the fabricated driveshafts take the strain for track use??? BR Alex |
How much are the genuine ones? Also is any box from a BE3/4 car ok? Just thinking ratio wise for boost.
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No, you need a BE box from a Car with a TU engine, normally its a 1.6 8v.
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So my xsara VTR 8 valve was a BE box then? I've just replace that with a HDI box.
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Also another quick question, the hubs have to be from a 1.8+ BE car, does it matter about the shafts? So for instance can they be from a 1.6 8v off same car as the gearbox?
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Is this the correct one? Same part number just didnt want to order and be wrong. I know some people say it needs to have a metal end, guess thats because its stronger but im sure the cable how it comes will be just fine. |
thats the one ive got, its a touch long so will need spacing but ive not had a problem with it
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any gen on about using a be4 conversion on standard ecu?
cause doesn't it affect the placement of the crank sensor? just wanna get the be4 up and running and tested before i put some power through it (read as massive supply of nitrous) |
the BE4 uses the standard TU/MA crank sensor
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I know this, but I'd read it's in a different position slightly, Which in turn when running standalone you need to adjust the ignition angle? Had caused peoples engines to det? Might be a complete lie lol. Just wanted to make sure. Sent from my BlackBerry 9700 using Tapatalk |
the sensor mounts to the block not the gearbox so changing the gearbox cant alter the position of the sensor
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Ahh this is very true,
Dunno what at speed and other people are spouting on about, cheers tweeqd! Sent from my BlackBerry 9700 using Tapatalk |
ive heard before that Atspeed say its different but i ran a standard 16v with standard ecu with my BE4 and now use the same sensor with my DTA and have it running at the standard settings
i also took the sensor off my car and fitted it straight on to a customers 106 quicksilver when his failed perhaps they like charging for stuff not needed ;) |
This is music to my ears lol!
Cheers buddy! Sent from my BlackBerry 9700 using Tapatalk |
so what cps bracket are you using here?
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the one i have is the standard late type 2 pin CPS
the lower one is an early sheilded type (with a bit of modifying you can get the early type to fit in the late holder) not sure why they have cut the box to run that type of bracket as the standard one works spot on i have run my DTA on standard CPS setings and a standard 16v ecu on the same late type plug also in that pic it looks like someone has fitted the clutch cable back to front |
Hmmm I'm sure it works fine, I'll have too see, just it's in a fairly different place about 5degrees at a guess, moves it from below that mounting bolt to above it.
Assume I need a picasso cps bracket. Sent from my BlackBerry 9700 using Tapatalk |
Been pricing this up:
Picasso 1.6 8v gearbox with O/S shaft and bearing carrier and speedo sensor and hubs (from breaker): £180 Hydraulic cable conversion parts: £35 Cable: £15 306 1.8 16v N/S driveshaft (from breaker): £25-35 Wheel bearings £40 Rear mount from Garry.M on Rallye Register: £70 delivered Torque link for rear mount: £10 Gearbox mount for 106 (spoox): £118.13 delivered maching for hubs and 3mm shim: £50 (quoted) shorten O/S driveshaft to 330mm: £50 (quoted) Quaife (GMC): £570 delivered BE Satch shift: £301.70 Total: £1475 Seems the BE quaife bolts straight in so no need to open gearbox which is a result Source own mounts and second hand BE quaife means it can be had for a lot less. |
where did you get the £250 price on the BE satchshift? they're £305 on KAMracing?
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Probably from Colin direct
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I've never looked into it, did think it seemed cheap :p
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http://atspeedracing.co.uk/products/...roducts_id=287 £8.50 delivery. |
Usually its more expensive from the manufacturer so they dont out price their supplier network!
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Don't you pay VAT?
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That price should be vat inclusive or he's breaking the law.. As John at gmc will tell you lol, remember reading about him being done for it lol
If you sell mainly to public all site prices should be shown with vat on, that's why likes of kam show both prices :y: |
[quote=blackie_2k5;5982406]That price should be vat inclusive or he's breaking the law.. As John at gmc, remember reading about him being done for it lol
Edit - thought you meant Quaife! Yes, it is very misleading on the ATSpeed website. At least John states that VAT isnt included hence why i followed the purchase through - doesn;t say so on the ATSpeed site though. makes me not want to buy from them on principal. |
That settles it then :)
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Updated price. anyone else with updates/bargains to be had? :-) I've actually seen picasso boxes for £50 |
the top mount in the atspeed kit wont fit an ax so yuor paying alot of money for just the lower mount
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Picked up my be4 box yesterday,
Having a look round it ready to make my mounts, Does every one ditch the diff brace on the rear? It bolts to where every one mounts there lower mount? Because it bolts to literally nothing but the diff housing stiffening it I guess. |
Is this the correct release bearing needed for the BE box?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xsara-Pica...a#ht_746wt_689 |
yes it is but there only about £24 from pug for a genuine one
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Know what the make they are also? Valeo? This one seems good- http://www.micksgarage.com/transmiss...rds/1.6/15472/ |
Sorry may sound stupid but . . .
What is the actual benefit from a be4 box/conversion? |
it wont shit itself quite as readily as an MA will if you have decent amount of torque from a tuned engine, or even on a stock engine with sticky tyres and half decent suspension and the right shock loadings.
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hi
says on home page of our shop that all prices are plus vat, and on our main website that all prices are plus vat. the vat is added throughout checkout procedure before completion. quote from homepage "Welcome to the Atspeed Racing Online Shop. Here you will find a range of high quality products from world leading manufacturers, if you are unsure of your exact requirements, fitments, or what you need is not listed, please contact us. Notice: Due to the specialist nature of many of the parts we sell, they are often made to order by the manufacturer, or custom made entirely, so delivery times greatly vary - please be aware of this before purchasing, if in doubt please contact us via phone or email before purchasing your products. Thankyou. *Our guarantee - We will only sell products that we would be prepared to use on our own cars* All prices are subject to VAT @ 20% Back to MAIN SITE" colin. |
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