I've never been pulled in my VTR. Even though its 2 tone, blacked out windows, lowered and a loud exhaust, the police haven't done anything.

Perhaps its because i drive sensibly everywhere?

ALL of them? Or just some?

Your views would be credible if you weren't dumbo without the o

Never once got pulled up in my old Saxo, i do wonder with my new one. :homme:

Bet you were driving around like a wee douche..

FLOL!

Got another?

used to get pulled in my black vtr around once a week, you get to know the drill after a while and it got to the point the cops saw me get out the car and just told me to go on, some of the times driving like a dick, most stopped for "insurance", got breathalysed once.

Yellow vtr in almost 2 years been pulled once i think?

swear the black vtr had a police marker or something...

As the copper said to Dom once. "Your car colour stands out more then our Marked Vehicles"

Well your opinion may matter if you wernt such a wanker.

Sweeping generalisation, most police officers are fine if you respect them and talk to them like human's as opposed to shouting at them in chav.

How do you know most accidents are from incompetent drivers?

Most accidents are caused by younger drivers in specific brands of car, hence they reason they get pulled over more and have to pay more for insurance.

If I ever did get pulled over I would not be the slightest bit worried because:

A) I don't drive like a cock
B) I have valid insurance, MOT and Tax
C) I won't speak to the police officers like they are scum
D) I will have done nothing knowingly wrong

There are always two sides to a story and all we ever hear on here is the abridged version told by a young Saxo driver, hardly the most credible evidence in the world......

First time i ever got in any bother with cops was on my 12th birthday when someone shouted something at some when they were driving past in their car.
Window was open and i was obviously the first person they saw, so PC twat got out of his car and proceeded t scream and shout and threaten me til the point i was in tears and shaking. Luckily a mates mum drove past stopped and listened in, and actually defended me - lead to a certain dickheads suspension.

Since then I have never trusted a copper nor liked them.

Have had people on my parents property (when i was about 14), I got defensive and got out my air rifle and a knife and stood up to them through my bedroom window. Police turned up after they (the intruders) reported me and that led to my first arrest. Now wtf!?

Have been brutally treated by them for no reason, acused of selling drugs, possetion of knives and all sorts. Have never been treated with much respect by them ( and im not the sort of person to be uncivil to someone for no reason) so yeah, this is why imo they are wankers.

Maybe if i looked like a twat (sorry *prettyboy) in hollister and jack wills bullshit, they would treat me differently. But airmaxes and adidas/nike/mckenzie hoodies appear to make me a second class citizen.

They judge you and react on you with out understanding who you are, what you are and why you are. Should be doing there job properly, not harrasing people when there are rapists peadophiles and murderes out there.

Only one of my mates has crashed, all of us being under 21 (young), and it wasn't his fault. IMO, older drivers such as 60+ are more of a danger on the road than a 'young chav',as you put it.

Why is my insurance so expensive when I havent crashed before and have, what is commonly known as, an old ladies car?

Back on topic, in neither of the 4 cars i've owned, including two saxo's, have I been pulled over by the cops, been searched for drugs in the car but that's for a different reason, and I still think that most of them are wasting their time, and should all be like Sherlock Holmes and solving crimes.

Nail on the head son!

That's your opinion, statistics are fact.

You may think they are more of a danger but statistics prove otherwise.

My insurance is dirt cheap on the VTS......partly because I am 24 but primarily because I have 4 years NCB. I have proved I am less of a risk by building it up.

All of those except C due to them judging me on my appearence before i even speak with them.

I tell them what they need to hear, yes im insured, yes my cars roadworthy, yes i have a licence, bye.

:hug: completely agree with you there mate.

You seriously have not got a clue have you?

So many things wrong with what you have said that I literally do not have the energy to reply...

I wear Jack Wills, appreciate the insult though ;)
McKenzie is chav

Its true.

I get really defensive over young drivers, the ones that constantly act like pricks get what they deserve. But for people like me and many others I know, who drive sensibly and only have fun when safe to do so, I stand up for.

So this statistic of yours, is it due to there being more young drivers than 60+?

There probably is, but you dont live the same life i do, so maybe your not completly correct in that statement.



QLD + NSW (aus) police were they safest people i have ever met, Thames valley and met are fully of twats. PCSO's are the way forward, actually get to know the comunity.

the word chav instantly comes up. Ha!

It's not my statistic, it's the statistics.

Insurance is calculated on risk, which is calculated from statistics.

Unless the insurance company can see into the future and work out that you are never going to claim for the next 50+ years of your driving career, the only close thing they can base your premium on is statistics of the people like you (i.e young and male in a Saxo) for the past X amount of years......it's so simple.

Sounds like you've not always had great relationships with the Police, so I understand you have a negative vibe for them, but why hold grudges?

You'll need them one day...

I know its not yours, and how insurance premiums are worked out. But what im saying is, that more young drivers are involved in accidents as there are more of them on the road?

When I needed them, they did nothing.

I would imagine so yeah, almost everyone starts lessons at 17 these days...desperate to have a car.

I have no idea on the numbers but I would strongly suspect there are a lot more cars on the road than their were 20 years ago and the large majority will be younger drivers.

More young drivers on the road = More younger drivers involved in crashes
This leads to...guess what....higher insurance premiums for young drivers.

This thread could of stopped with the first reply, if you drive like a dick you'll get pulled regardless of car..

It is to a certain extent. Then it becomes the companies decision to exploit the law to its benefit of making more money, best industry to be in tbf. Its also the tax on top that you pay that jacks it up.
REmember, it works differently and a lot more effectivly in other countries.

incompatence will always overrule driving like a dick. I can drive like an idiot and maintain full control of my car, be aware to whats going on and be able to slow down to a safe speed when nessasery. Now if you are a shite driver and do this, it will most likely end in tears. Insurance companies have been around long enough to spot these people and do somehting about it but the revenue is too dear to lose.

Which is exactly my point, its higher because there's more of them.

I bet if there was the same amount of older people as younger, then stats would be much different.

I remember you saying that dude!

But that was once... I've needed the Police on a couple of occasions and they have been top!

It's interesting to hear people's experiences from time to time regarding this. I think I've only pulled over one saxo driver in the last 6 months and that was because it was an absolute shed and one of the rear tyres were down to the cords.

From exPerience it is only usually the attitude and standard of driving of some modified car owners that let them down, often the cars themselves are very well looked after and documents are usually always in order as they care about the cars.

I work in an area where a high number of the population are driving on international driving licences, the standard of driving is absolutely shocking, and you wouldn't believe how many don't know what insurance is. I have honestly dealt with motorists who genuinely believe that if someone in their household has a driving licence that can teach them then they don't need their own licence.

When you know the other side of the story id suggest that the young driver isn't as targeted as some of you think you are.

No, wearing airmaxes and adidas/nike/mckenzie hoodies makes you a second class citizen.

Say that in my ends pretty boy.



And rudpud you get me on this!!


Moke, I tend to sort things out myself, leaves more pf a message than a letter from plod.

I also forgot to mention when starting this thread that every time I have been pulled (lost count but got to be in double figures) even on "so called routine stops", I've been treated like complete and utter s**t when I've always been co-operative and tried to be generally nice to them, they always judge me on appearance and by what I drive.

Ugh. Not helping yourself are you? :n:

Do you dress / drive like a cunt?

no need to bring your homosexual feelings on to a forum...

Been pulled over once in 4yrs of owning the saxo,because I was driving like a dick, own fault.

I respect your honesty.

Moke :drink:

Wanav those days mate. Nt in a good mood tbh!!

Ok lets try a moke style comment,

You saying something like that makes you as bad as me. so HA! :homme:

Bedfordshire Police seem alright. In my whole life, only ever stopped twice. One for wheel spinning from traffic lights (Being a idiot and thinking its 'Cool' cos you're young). The 2 coppers were nice as pie and said on your way. The second time for undertaking a Police Car in a 30Mph zone over the town bridge :/. They had 3 units pull me over. The Scottish officer had a attitude and a half. I hadn't said a word to him yet he was Fing and blinding at me as soon as i stepped out of the car. Ever since, i've always been a bit cautious to how they will respond.

All in all, at the end of the day, they are only doing a job.

You're always going to have a copper that thinks he's Mr Big Shot.

When I was pulled shortly after passing, for having my fogs on (yeah, yeah alright :homme:), the copper who pulled me was fine, told me not to do it again, etc... But then his "pal" in the car decided to start looking through the car... Found nothing and I could see he was angry at that, so he tried to do me on anything he could... He failed.

I just laugh it off... As long as you're not in the wrong, you've nothing to be worried about.

Oh and we all make mistakes.