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leeroybrown 19th January 2011 21:48

Nathan gave his evidence today.

Over to the jury to wether or not he is guilty of death by dangerous driving!

wadoryu 19th January 2011 21:55

keep us updated mate. thoughts with the family

Tontsy 19th January 2011 22:09

for them to be aware that there was a "defective shock" i would imagine Vosa would have taken the car?

so all modifications that wernt listed to the dvla, such as the engine conversion, should be mentioned and dealt with officially!

i hope they hang him by the balls
and a big black cock gets his arse the moment he gets sent down!

pdb1985 19th January 2011 23:25

This guys in court for cauing death by dangerous driving ? not very sensible turning up wearing a subaru rally team coat to court ! Throw the book at him

outrage_uk 20th January 2011 04:33

Im almost within two minds about posting in here, but I think it needs saying before sentencing.

First of all I would like to say R.I.P to Gav Collier, such a tragic story and ive spent a long time reading this thread. Didn't know the lad, never used this forum a year ago, but this thread says it all really, clearly a loved lad and yet another waste of life, and a group of family and friends destroyed.

Speaking from the experience of my ex best friends' brother, who also sadly died in a car accident aged 20 - this is an awful time, feelings are still raw, and close people will never get to terms with the death of someone so close.

As for the driver, Nathan, he has to live with the death of a person for the rest of his life. Now if that was me, the jail sentence he will receive is immaterial. The same can be said whether he is charged with death by dangerous, or death by careless driving. This time last year he was probably a normal lad enjoying life as was Gav, and now he is getting treated as a murderer and has alot of people feeling that of him too. Now if that was me, I certainly don't know how I would cope. As for denying death by dangerous driving and giving a 'predetermined statement' - this will be the actions of a solicitor - the lad has admitted to speeding, and the defence wants to put this to the Crown to assess whether speed and an unroadworthy car alone constitutes dangerous driving. To be honest, I feel he will get charged with dangerous driving, as the tragic loss warrants it. But nothing will change the most important outcome of this story, nothing can.. and Nathan will most likely be 'walking free' within 3 years time, but the main sentence is in his head which he will take to the grave.

There is a lesson to be learned to everyone here. I was driving tonight with my best mate, on country roads, where the speed limit changed from 70 to 50. As i went passed the 50 marker, I looked at my speed, and this story came into my head and I thought how precious life is and how I would feel if something happened to my passengers.

Its a tragic accident, and for everyone involved, time is probably the biggest healer.

dynofiend 21st January 2011 20:29

The jury has decided Morris is guilty of the more serious charge of causing death by dangerous driving, which he had denied throughout the trial. The judge has told Nathan to prepare himself for a substantial prison sentence when he returns on February 11th for sentencing. The judge also noted Morris had previous convictions for drink driving and drunk and disorderly behaviour.

I hope this serves as a warning to those who believe that a little high speed 'taz' now and again doesnt hurt anyone...

http://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/ne...erous_driving/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-12241227

Pieface 21st February 2011 14:57

Saw this under Most Popular - Read on the BBC site, Nathan has got four years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-12524308

wadoryu 21st February 2011 14:58

four years isn't much. he'll be out in two

tweedie 21st February 2011 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadoryu (Post 5134126)
four years isn't much. he'll be out in two

People get off too lightly

leeroybrown 21st February 2011 16:37

Got off lighly there.

Its finally over such a big relif if am honest some justice is better then none

Jam3s 21st February 2011 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadoryu (Post 5134126)
four years isn't much. he'll be out in two

Our law system is F***ing bollocks...

stompin-sarah 21st February 2011 17:51

at least its now over with and hopefully gavs family can have some closure on it...

however 4 years?? WTF is that? he will b out in 2 on good behaviour.... the justice system here is shite

djmartin 21st February 2011 20:02

4 years fk me that all thast as bad as the case just finished here in Hull a man 25 years ago raped a 69 year old women he just got a sentance of 4 years aswell..like WTF! seriously our justice system is mad id rather they bring back public hanging tbh!

Dom 21st February 2011 20:18

Lets not turn this thread of Tributes to Gav into a argument over the time Nathan has been sentenced to. Justice system has handed it down, nothing we say or do is going to change it, best for all to leave it.

As above, SOME JUSTICE IS BETTER THAN NONE!

R.I.P. Gav

leeroybrown 21st February 2011 20:20

Agreed Dom

Time to let the kid rest in peace

jonathon5 21st February 2011 21:34

Lock the thread. R.I.P

leeroybrown 22nd February 2011 10:58

Morris, who will serve half the sentence in custody and the rest on licence, was also banned from driving for four years.

Pieface 22nd February 2011 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown (Post 5136165)
Morris, who will serve half the sentence in custody and the rest on licence, was also banned from driving for four years.

Do you know if thats four years after his sentence, or starting from now?

CampDavid 22nd February 2011 11:25

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-12534543

Updated here.

I believe the four years will start after his sentence ends Pieface, though I'm not sure how relevant it is. Verdict is guilty, Nathan has 2 years in prison, 2 years on license and a life time knowing that, because of him, someone else who would probably be living now isn't.

Oc2 23rd February 2011 16:19

Read this in the Daily express while iwas sat at work, shitty mobile internet didnt post the thread

4 years aint nearly enough to be fair

(ive ripped the article out of the paper, will scan and upload is anyone wants?)


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