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gall34 5th December 2006 13:14

its not about the 6x9s tho its components! i thought u would like to explain?

Baz 5th December 2006 13:17

basically....companys bullshit about the ratings of their products, theloudest.co.uk to name one that bullshit about ratings of their products

gall34 5th December 2006 13:21

how do u know? have you had their power ratings tested of whatever yours tested to see if their accurate or are they so good that they are better than the ratings listed?

gall34 5th December 2006 13:26

anyway.. to conclude: http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...d=theloudestuk - thats a good 5 and half thousand retards who seem to like theloudest's products, someone really should tell them!:afro:

Danr 5th December 2006 14:05

Right then tit face. I hope this explains why 6x9's are shite for a good system :)

When the people setting up the speakers at a gig set them up they always have the speakers facing you.

They have them at the side of the stage, on the side of the stage and hanging above the stage!



AS you can see if you stand like this your ears are not recieving the sound waves.



This is due to the way your ears are formed. You have the open bit to collect the sound waves at the front and the rear is shielded meaning you cannot hear so well as there is soemthing blocking the direct sound waves entering the ear.

When you go to a concert you stand like this.


This means that your ears are receiving the sound waves directley to your ears.

What im getting at is that you are saying that 6x9's are good, but they are not aiming at you from the front meaning you are not recieving the waves direct to your ears.

The reason so many people say that the best thing to have is some good quality speakers up front and a sub woofer. This is so the sub can handle the low down bass and the speakers can handle the higher range stuff, which will be pointed directley at you. Like the gig situation.

Hope this helps :)

uppitysi 5th December 2006 14:18

:clap: a round of applause dan

That needed to be set, and that itself should be made a sticky!!

Danr 5th December 2006 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by uppitysi (Post 792861)
:clap: a round of applause dan

That needed to be set, and that itself should be made a sticky!!

Cheers dude, the thing is from reading his other posts he won't listen. Oh well, you can only do so much without bludening him with a cat!

:P

and123rew 5th December 2006 14:48

thats worth a rep danr, just for the amusing paint skills!

let alone putting him in his place. u owned him !

gall34 5th December 2006 14:49

r u taking the piss lol, obviously sound wouldn't go completely directly in to your ears if your facing the other way but do you not think a good 300watts is loud enough to travel around the car, even the shitty standard speakers do that you pleb. anyway the point was about the quality not just the 6x9s. each 2 his own

Danr 5th December 2006 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by gall34 (Post 792917)
r u taking the piss lol, obviously sound wouldn't go completely directly in to your ears if your facing the other way but do you not think a good 300watts is loud enough to travel around the car, even the shitty standard speakers do that you pleb. anyway the point was about the quality not just the 6x9s. each 2 his own

Yes but it would be reflecting from other surfaces. Which in turn would create a slight delay in the sound that is coming from your front speakers. Mate, i studied music technology for a year. I think i might know what im talking about.

As well as all the other people on this forum who know the truth about 6x9s. If the speakers are such amazing quality then why do they not cost much at all. If you say that they are just well priced why do alot of proffesional system builders not use these 'Great' speakers you claim they are. I have never seen these speakers being used in any kind of pro system so they must be pretty poor.

And, i'd just like to voice my opinion which im pretty sure would sum up what everyone thinks of you now.


hesslevtr 5th December 2006 15:27

are you an artist dan

well put though mate

gall34 5th December 2006 15:31

i never said their the greatest speakers that god put on this earth but you cant say other people are wrong just because your prefer the component and sub setup.. which is why there are thousands of people out there who prefer 6x9s, its not because they all dont know about this alternative they just dont like it. well we're all entitled to our own opinions..


Danr 5th December 2006 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesslevtr (Post 792995)
are you an artist dan

well put though mate

I do try my best. I don't agree with using the likes of photoshop and that when i have such good skills in paint :)

By the way Gall, thanks for calling me a cunt mate.

gall34 5th December 2006 15:40

ah relax mate lol all us men have gotta believe we're right its in our nature! we'll just have 2 learn to tolerate it

DaveWard 5th December 2006 16:15

This has made me piss myself. But it sounds like a challage to me

For a start speaker specs on a sheet mean next to nothing. The power handling of a speaker does not mean that its going to sound good or not

Gall34:they can say what they like lol.. just because someone is good at having a rant doesn't mean they are always correct, id bet a grands worth of subwoofers that hes the type of person known as the "never wrong" its just for jokes lads, but serious the quality of the speakers from theloudest are next to perfect and my joint favourite thing with cars is music so I know when im hearing shit quality or not

Make it a grand in cash + costs and I will make you look a proper tit at the any IASCA SQ Sound off next year (as long as I can get time off work and fit it around other stuff there will be at least 1 or 2 that I can make it to). Tell me how much your Loudest system cost in total. I will build and install a system for the same price or lower and we will enter them in to a sound off. Person with the most points wins and the loser pays the other £1000 in cash at the event plus the cost of the system + the cost of installation + expences getting to and from the event and entry fee.

Rules are installs must be installed by yourself (your stupid mate can help you but not his shop or anyone else) and you must use your loudest 6x9s and no sub.

Heres another challange for you go at as many sound offs as you can next year. In any SQ class find cars running 6x9s. For every one you find that comes in the top 3 its class (minimum of 5 entrys) I will donate £10 to the registered worthwhile charity of your choise(no my beer fund etc. Stuff liek hospitals or cancer reserch etc).

and a third challange.
Find any recording studio in the world that uses 6x9s for monitors. Again £10 to the registered worthwhile charity of your choise(no my beer fund etc. Stuff like hospitals or cancer reserch etc).

Ask the loudest to prove there power ratings!

What shop does your mate work at?

hesslevtr 5th December 2006 16:19

i love you dave

Sean 5th December 2006 16:21

pwned. best of luck mate :)

gall34 5th December 2006 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWard (Post 793145)
This has made me piss myself. But it sounds like a challage to me

Make it a grand in cash + costs and I will make you look a proper tit at the any IASCA SQ Sound off next year (as long as I can get time off work and fit it around other stuff there will be at least 1 or 2 that I can make it to). Tell me how much your Loudest system cost in total. I will build and install a system for the same price or lower and we will enter them in to a sound off. Person with the most points wins and the loser pays the other £1000 in cash at the event plus the cost of the system + the cost of installation + expences getting to and from the event and entry fee.

Rules are installs must be installed by yourself (your stupid mate can help you but not his shop or anyone else) and you must use your loudest 6x9s and no sub.

Heres another challange for you go at as many sound offs as you can next year. In any SQ class find cars running 6x9s. For every one you find that comes in the top 3 its class (minimum of 5 entrys) I will donate £10 to the registered worthwhile charity of your choise(no my beer fund etc. Stuff liek hospitals or cancer reserch etc).

and a third challange.
Find any recording studio in the world that uses 6x9s for monitors. Again £10 to the registered worthwhile charity of your choise(no my beer fund etc. Stuff like hospitals or cancer reserch etc).

Ask the loudest to prove there power ratings!

What shop does your mate work at?

I wish i had a grand to bet but its going towards styling my new car plus obviously if you stick a few subs in a boot compared to just a pair of 6x9s its going to be louder ive been goin on bout the quality just from them the whole time.

and i think if you can read i said that theloudest produces audio equipment for studios concerts etc i never specified 6x9s as an item they use, its probably more like 60x90s that they use lol

in terms of the ratings you could ask any manufacturer to prove their ratings, you get it from whoever you prefer that doesnt make it accurate because they cost 1000% more does it?

as i believe someone mentioned before its alot to do with preference. many people dont like having big chunky custom speakers hanging off the front doors... people are allowed their opinions you know, i never realised britain was so communist with so many followers

DaveWard 5th December 2006 16:44

Find a studio that uses oval speakers then! You wont! The best shape for a speaker is round!

Danr 5th December 2006 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWard (Post 793145)
This has made me piss myself. But it sounds like a challage to me

For a start speaker specs on a sheet mean next to nothing. The power handling of a speaker does not mean that its going to sound good or not

Gall34:they can say what they like lol.. just because someone is good at having a rant doesn't mean they are always correct, id bet a grands worth of subwoofers that hes the type of person known as the "never wrong" its just for jokes lads, but serious the quality of the speakers from theloudest are next to perfect and my joint favourite thing with cars is music so I know when im hearing shit quality or not

Make it a grand in cash + costs and I will make you look a proper tit at the any IASCA SQ Sound off next year (as long as I can get time off work and fit it around other stuff there will be at least 1 or 2 that I can make it to). Tell me how much your Loudest system cost in total. I will build and install a system for the same price or lower and we will enter them in to a sound off. Person with the most points wins and the loser pays the other £1000 in cash at the event plus the cost of the system + the cost of installation + expences getting to and from the event and entry fee.

Rules are installs must be installed by yourself (your stupid mate can help you but not his shop or anyone else) and you must use your loudest 6x9s and no sub.

Heres another challange for you go at as many sound offs as you can next year. In any SQ class find cars running 6x9s. For every one you find that comes in the top 3 its class (minimum of 5 entrys) I will donate £10 to the registered worthwhile charity of your choise(no my beer fund etc. Stuff liek hospitals or cancer reserch etc).

and a third challange.
Find any recording studio in the world that uses 6x9s for monitors. Again £10 to the registered worthwhile charity of your choise(no my beer fund etc. Stuff like hospitals or cancer reserch etc).

Ask the loudest to prove there power ratings!

What shop does your mate work at?

Dave, was i right with my diagrams, i think i was but not 100% sure :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gall34 (Post 793205)
I wish i had a grand to bet but its going towards styling my new car plus obviously if you stick a few subs in a boot compared to just a pair of 6x9s its going to be louder ive been goin on bout the quality just from them the whole time.

and i think if you can read i said that theloudest produces audio equipment for studios concerts etc i never specified 6x9s as an item they use, its probably more like 60x90s that they use lol

in terms of the ratings you could ask any manufacturer to prove their ratings, you get it from whoever you prefer that doesnt make it accurate because they cost 1000% more does it?

as i believe someone mentioned before its alot to do with preference. many people dont like having big chunky custom speakers hanging off the front doors... people are allowed their opinions you know, i never realised britain was so communist with so many followers

Mate, give up. Your talking tosh!


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