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Sophia_Bush 11th May 2011 22:31

thats pretty awesome stuff!

stevo1600 12th May 2011 22:48

looking really really good :y:

miamibluebaby 13th May 2011 00:02

How have i not seen this thread before??? looks awesome, should be fun,

Colin you should make a few 2.5 inch systems id have one!!

AndySAXO 13th May 2011 08:56

What power did it make?? Just out of intrest.

paxo89 13th May 2011 12:51

Car made 222 @ the wheels and 230 lb/ft torque at 14psi, and i believe colin said it made around 170 @ the wheels on 7psi. way more than i expected, getting very excited now :D

dannygti 13th May 2011 12:53

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Originally Posted by paxo89 (Post 5309528)
Car made 222 @ the wheels and 238 ft/lb torque at 14psi, and i believe colin said it made around 170 @ the wheels on 7psi. way more than i expected, getting very excited now :D

WOW got to be really happy with that mate. what psi was it running at 222@wheels?

when you picking the car up?

paxo89 13th May 2011 12:56

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Originally Posted by raunchz (Post 5306084)
Very tidy install!! Like it a lot!!

Any idea on a rough cost of drive in drive out? 5kish?

I bought around £4k of parts beforehand so i'd say a bit more than 5k, obviously depends on how mad you want to go, i took things easy by all accounts!

adzvtr 13th May 2011 12:56

222 atw at 14 psi m8,
thats awsome well happy for u

paxo89 13th May 2011 12:58

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Originally Posted by dannygti (Post 5309532)
WOW got to be really happy with that mate. what psi was it running at 222@wheels?

when you picking the car up?

that was at 14psi i believe. i will more than likely be running it on 7psi due to having a standard gearbox. i'll see how it goes with that and if needs be up the boost a touch :p
Hopefully picking it up tomorrow morning, just waiting for the go-ahead from colin really :y:

dannygti 13th May 2011 12:58

sorry, just re-read that. good stuff mate

paxo89 13th May 2011 12:59

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Originally Posted by adzvtr (Post 5309539)
222 atw at 14 psi m8,
thats awsome well happy for u

i just want to drive it now lol!

Hows the supercharger going mate??

dannygti 13th May 2011 13:00

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Originally Posted by paxo89 (Post 5309540)
that was at 14psi i believe. i will more than likely be running it on 7psi due to having a standard gearbox. i'll see how it goes with that and if needs be up the boost a touch :p
Hopefully picking it up tomorrow morning, just waiting for the go-ahead from colin really :y:

great mate.

having drove my car last night i will say that you will be MORE than happy with it. its will be VERY VERY quick on the road. so take it easy for a bit lol

paxo89 13th May 2011 13:00

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Originally Posted by LSOfreak (Post 5303638)
hold on a sec! your car looks awfully familiar :detective: lol do you remember me at a little north london meet ages ago with tufty vtsmarv and sean?
would love to see your car now, seems alot has changed :y:

i do remember lol, hows your car coming along?

paxo89 13th May 2011 13:03

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Originally Posted by dannygti (Post 5309545)
great mate.

having drove my car last night i will say that you will be MORE than happy with it. its will be VERY VERY quick on the road. so take it easy for a bit lol

i will lol cheers, expecting it to take a while to get used to it haha :y:

blackie_2k5 13th May 2011 14:13

thats a pretty fucking good fgure tbh mate! gotta be over the moon :D

DanielT92 13th May 2011 15:19

Love this car, awesome build mate as we spoke about on Sunday. Can't wait to see it in the flesh :)

Wayne 13th May 2011 16:25

Awesome Result Dan:y: going to be mental to drive:D will have to take you out in mine once built have a taste for more power:P;)

dannygti 13th May 2011 17:17

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Originally Posted by Wayne (Post 5310084)
Awesome Result Dan:y: going to be mental to drive:D will have to take you out in mine once built have a taste for more power:P;)

yes but wayne he already has his mapped up and running ;)

looks like he used his brain as he went for driveability over all out power for a road car.

Sophia_Bush 13th May 2011 17:26

that is awesome paxo very good result there

miamibluebaby 13th May 2011 17:36

They are some seriously good figures mate, bet your chuffed. For 'stage 1' so to speak that is a pretty epic result and plenty of potential :)

Wayne 13th May 2011 19:05

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Originally Posted by dannygti (Post 5310168)
yes but wayne he already has his mapped up and running ;)

looks like he used his brain as he went for driveability over all out power for a road car.

Theres more to mine than dan's, just takes ages to save up:(:homme: wish mine was done now could have some fun in mine:fcuk: i can turn mine down if i want to also;)

dannygti 13th May 2011 19:09

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Originally Posted by Wayne (Post 5310444)
Theres more to mine than dan's, just takes ages to save up:(:homme: wish mine was done now could have some fun in mine:fcuk: i can turn mine down if i want to also;)

i know mate,
im sure dan could have more power if he wanted to. he could of just bought a slightly bigger turbo and run the same boost pressure. but his setup as it is will be pretty fucking epic for the road.

when yours is done, ill have to take you out in mine for some proper power ;)

Tufty 14th May 2011 01:26

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Originally Posted by dannygti (Post 5310457)
i know mate,
im sure dan could have more power if he wanted to. he could of just bought a slightly bigger turbo and run the same boost pressure. but his setup as it is will be pretty fucking epic for the road.

when yours is done, ill have to take you out in mine for some proper power ;)

well, i can vouch for this comment Dan, ive been out in it tonight.... its just mental, when its rolling at about 60ish it puts my N/A set up to shame... pulling off is tricky for him as he`s very cautious about gearbox and it was his first drive.

Hes got 4 settings programmed. We stayed at 7psi tonight and that felt MORE than enough.... It just does not stop pulling.... I cant get my head around what 1 bar of boost would be like? Or even what colins car is like?

I hate to say it but the noise of boost is better than ITBs lol... just listening to the turbo spool up! and the fact you have full control of it, where as with mine its, noise noise all the time!

Anyway, must get some sleep! :boxing:

stinkycheese 14th May 2011 02:36

Sweet. Bet it shifts.

atspeedracing 14th May 2011 09:23

haha after seeing the smile on dans face after his first drive at 7psi i knew he was pleased. 14psi will feel much MUCH faster becuase how the torque is delivered as boost increases.

- colin.

raunchz 14th May 2011 09:54

Sounds like some awesome figures for an effectively standard engine (decamp and rod bolts) !!

Car must feel awesome to drive!

dannygti 14th May 2011 11:38

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Originally Posted by Tufty (Post 5311020)
well, i can vouch for this comment Dan, ive been out in it tonight.... its just mental, when its rolling at about 60ish it puts my N/A set up to shame... pulling off is tricky for him as he`s very cautious about gearbox and it was his first drive.

Hes got 4 settings programmed. We stayed at 7psi tonight and that felt MORE than enough.... It just does not stop pulling.... I cant get my head around what 1 bar of boost would be like? Or even what colins car is like?

I hate to say it but the noise of boost is better than ITBs lol... just listening to the turbo spool up! and the fact you have full control of it, where as with mine its, noise noise all the time!

Anyway, must get some sleep! :boxing:



tufty, you have just backed up everything ive been saying for ages lol.. trying to convince people is hard. the only way is for them to have a taste themselves.
i know what you mean 7psi would be more than enough. i was trying to tell lea how quick mine was at just 8psi, so i tool him out and needless to say he's just how you are now lol..

boost sounds soo good. you got loads of things to listen too,, spool up, exhaust, turbo chatter etc etc..

i dont think a well spec'd throttle boddies car would see which way you went with a good boost setup.

atspeedracing 14th May 2011 12:09

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Originally Posted by raunchz (Post 5311133)
Sounds like some awesome figures for an effectively standard engine (decamp and rod bolts) !!

Car must feel awesome to drive!

this set up makes an awesome road car. they are great fun!! :)

- colin.

dannygti 15th May 2011 19:39

put some miles on her yet mate? hows it feel?

blackie_2k5 15th May 2011 19:54

sounds epic!! whats wheelspin like? your running stock drivetrain yeah?

and for the record your right, boost sounds way better then bodies, the exhaust note on boost is immense, and the spool up sounds equally as awesome

paxo89 16th May 2011 00:33

I cant really describe how mad it is compared to a standard vts! Literally can't thank colin enough, the workmanship is amazing and it hasn't really missed a beat since i got her back.
Only slight criticism of the whole build would be that the intercooler sits a touch low for my liking (although the car is lowered which is my fault and doesn't help lol)
I'm sure that can be easily sorted.
The pickup from 40,50,60 etc mph is insane, i'd recommend boost and atspeed to anyone!

Progress-wise, next things on the list are fit my team dynamics and new tyres which i'll probably get around to tomorrow.
then after that i'll be getting bigger brakes and then hopefully a BE upgrade (boost will be turned up then :p )
Sadly that will have to wait until after my holiday in august :( ££££


Blackie, yeah i'm running standard drivetrain, so far it seems to be coping alright, although i'm not the sort of driver who just whacks my foot straight to the floor haha, fingers crossed it will all be fine until i can sort the BE conversion out!

dannygti 16th May 2011 00:48

good to hear mate.. what boost is it set to now?

what clutch aew you using?

is it as or quicker than you thought it would be?

did you ever go in tufy's car? how does it compare to yours?

paxo89 16th May 2011 01:09

its set to 7psi atm, still getting used to it? im using a helix 6 paddle clutch (i think lol), its around what i expected, maybe even a bit more, just mad to think that i can make it faster with the push of a button !
i did go out in jasons car, its difficult to compare the two tbh, i think cars always feel much faster when youre the passenger and it seemed rapid when he took me out and the brakes were fucking mental lol.
I think i'd have to drive both cars and be driven in both to get a proper answer if that makes sense, i've always had a soft spot for screaming N/A engines though lol

dannygti 16th May 2011 10:04

i think you need to turn the boost up a bit more then lol :D

AndySAXO 16th May 2011 10:26

It still cheating though ent it ;p

Seroiusly sound very good, bet it fun showing up more expensive cars :p

I know boost is best, but I love N/a always have.

Bet it fun to drive though :p

Tufty 16th May 2011 12:33

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Originally Posted by paxo89 (Post 5314945)
its set to 7psi atm, still getting used to it? im using a helix 6 paddle clutch (i think lol), its around what i expected, maybe even a bit more, just mad to think that i can make it faster with the push of a button !
i did go out in jasons car, its difficult to compare the two tbh, i think cars always feel much faster when youre the passenger and it seemed rapid when he took me out and the brakes were fucking mental lol.
I think i'd have to drive both cars and be driven in both to get a proper answer if that makes sense, i've always had a soft spot for screaming N/A engines though lol

In reply to wether this is quicker lol... it sure is. There is no questions asked. At the moment until 30mph ide say mine would be ahead, but that is only due to dans transmission and he cant put all the power down. Anything after 30 i would need 2 horses at the front pulling me along providing they are not scared by the noise.
:homme:

dannygti 16th May 2011 12:37

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Originally Posted by Tufty (Post 5315293)
In reply to wether this is quicker lol... it sure is. There is no questions asked. At the moment until 30mph ide say mine would be ahead, but that is only due to dans transmission and he cant put all the power down. Anything after 30 i would need 2 horses at the front pulling me along providing they are not scared by the noise.
:homme:

there needs to be a "like" button on here lol


i know exactly what you mean. ive come form a very light tb'd car to a slightly heavier boosted car and there is no competition.

also tufty, it makes it even better to think hes only using half the boost its mapped for lol..
soooo, when you building this boosted 16v ;)?

atspeedracing 16th May 2011 12:49

dan - if i get time i will do an overlay on the dyno comparing 7psi to 14psi on your car.. so you can see what your missing out on ;)
you have a spare box.. no excuses :P

remember keep a check on your nuts/bolts levels for first few weeks (manifold and exhaust nuts work their way loose during the early running as things heat up and flex etc)

re intercooler, that was highest it could sit with minor structural cutting of the chassis. if you like we can cut away some of the chassis which will enable us to get the boost pipes higher, and then lift the intercooler up an inch or so? perhaps make this a plan for a later date.

Tufty 16th May 2011 12:50

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Originally Posted by dannygti (Post 5315304)
there needs to be a "like" button on here lol


i know exactly what you mean. ive come form a very light tb'd car to a slightly heavier boosted car and there is no competition.

also tufty, it makes it even better to think hes only using half the boost its mapped for lol..
soooo, when you building this boosted 16v ;)?

Haha, i have said this time and time again! I really dont understand where more power could come from and how it would feel lol.... We were on the motor way, he booted it in 3rd and to pull your head away from the seat there was quite a fair bit of resistance.

Ive got a few projects going atm :y:

dannygti 16th May 2011 12:59

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Originally Posted by Tufty (Post 5315330)
Haha, i have said this time and time again! I really dont understand where more power could come from and how it would feel lol.... We were on the motor way, he booted it in 3rd and to pull your head away from the seat there was quite a fair bit of resistance.

Ive got a few projects going atm :y:

haha good to hear mate, shall look forward to seeing things progress.. :D


colin, that would be very interesting to see actually, an overlay. would show a fair few things. dread to think what yours is like on the road mate


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