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Payney 10th March 2008 14:05

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Originally Posted by snewham (Post 1949705)
Fucking monkeys. Let us know how you get on at the garage. If you need some heavies to go round there and sort it out let me know ;)

scott

Heavies, why let you know? :p Jokes.


Hope you get it sorted Matt, not going too well is it mate.

If theres anything i can help with you got my number just give us a txt.

raunchz 10th March 2008 14:15

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Originally Posted by jpsaxo (Post 1949884)
Thats what i've been thinking... Only thing that i can think of is excessive crank case pressure building up in the head, i dont suppose there's been any oil come out of the breather or the dip stick popping out is there matt?

A deep score mark on top of the block, from an oilway to the corner it's leaking?? A crack in one of the oil ways ? I can't think why it would be leaking, if the headgasket is fitted correctly, and all the headbolts are torqued up.

Maybe head of block face isn't flat?

Barry123 10th March 2008 15:03

quite shocking that garages can get away with things like that.

if you weren't so clued up on the car and engine then they would have got away with it - terrible really.

I'd mention you're an e-celeb and that with a single click on your mouse you can ruin the company's reputation.

:cool:

s3tre2003 10th March 2008 15:16

unlucky mate..best of luck with it..

o and u spelt conversion wrong :y:

rushy_23 10th March 2008 15:53

Matt man dont really know what to say.. Just hopefully you get something sorted.
TBH its not a garage to really recommend to anyone after the crap thats gone
on, must be loosing their touch over the years?

Aron 10th March 2008 16:08

Bloody hell, turning into a real hash. Im sure it will all come through and be well worth it though mate.:y:

grantlowery 10th March 2008 16:26

twat's I wouldnt stand for that sort of service

LEE_VTR1 10th March 2008 18:18

really hope this gets sorted matt, there are taking you for a ride by the sound of things i bet they dont realise or even begin to think about the stress and strains youve put into your saxo and they proberly see it like most garages do and think here we go another boy racer in a saxo.

the sax-p boys should get round there asap and be like look get this done or MEET MY FRIEND PAIN ;) :boxing:

keep us posted on the situation matt,
remember if you need owt drop me a txt im only 5 mins away mate.

maynard 10th March 2008 19:32

hope you got some good news today matt. just goes to show once again that if something can be done by yourself do it, at least you know its been done properly and to your standards just like you've done with the rest of the car.

brett69 10th March 2008 19:35

Love this car!!! Hope the news is good.

Can i ask how much you have spent on it in total so far?

motobruce 10th March 2008 21:07

That is unbeliveable!!

Where did you get the work carried out? Name and shame!!

p.s sorry to keep on bout the cam covers youve obviousley been very busy and stressed out with you car.

lyndon 10th March 2008 21:08

Got the pics then mate? Did you got visit?

Steve 10th March 2008 21:14

just read your update proper cock ends, hope tehy paying for paint etc

liamk15 10th March 2008 21:18

im so glad i live right next to a good garage ,hate it wen shit like this happens

Luke 10th March 2008 22:02

As I said on Friday mate when I spoke to you, it's really disgusting how they have treat you and the car. I really think it's outrageous how they keep trying to fob you off too, all the best though mate sorting it.

willsy 11th March 2008 00:01

Thanks for all the wishes and concerns ladies and gents.

Its getting me seriously stressed now, we've established that the head gasket is not the cause and now that they've replaced the one i supplied with a new one and the leak is still there they've admitted that its misdiagnosis and that i wot have to pay the £200sh for the replacement of that.

The damage weve agreed to talk about later and the prime concern is the engine itself, to some extent they admitted the damage although trying to wriggle out of it by saying the cars too low my point of "if it was a £200k supercar that you had in thats low you've have taken much more care" trumped their argument.

So far theres still no idea where the leak is coming from, to my knowledge and memory of what goes there in that given area there is:

- Seal on the front camshhaft (outlet) which is/was a brand new part and i cant see that being the cause

- Seals on the cam covers, cam ladders, both of which are new seals and no leak was evident before

- Head gasket which has been changed twice now, head has been skimmed twice and when i got the engine there was no evidence of a leak from this area.
QEP did all the work on the head and said it was in perfect condition and this place also found no noticeable fault when originally putting the engine together.

The only other bolt/s that i can think or is the little one which bolts the back cambelt cover onto the head, but this is only a small stubby thing which isnt long enough to have penetrated the inner head wall.

Other than that i cant think of or remember seeing any other parts which could be to blame.

willsy 11th March 2008 00:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsaxo (Post 1949884)
Thats what i've been thinking... Only thing that i can think of is excessive crank case pressure building up in the head, i dont suppose there's been any oil come out of the breather or the dip stick popping out is there matt?

What could be the cause of the excessive crank case pressure? and what would be the remedy?

There is no oil that has leaked or appeared from any other place (that ive seen so far or am aware of) other than where the oil seems to be appearing and dripping from.

Seems really strange

MK2SLAG 11th March 2008 00:12

is there oil getting into the spark plugs?like if you turn the engine over,take out a sprak plug and has it got oil on it?

willsy 11th March 2008 00:19

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Originally Posted by rapidvtr (Post 1952196)
is there oil getting into the spark plugs?like if you turn the engine over,take out a sprak plug and has it got oil on it?

I will get them to check, but as far as im aware theres no oil getting into there. Engine starts (when battery is charged sufficiently) first time every time without any problem

what could the cause be if there is oil getting into the plugs?

Remember that the oil leak doesnt occur atall for the first minute or so of startup, after which time it builds up quickly to approx 1 drip per 1/2 seconds. Its not just a weap at that rate.

MK2SLAG 11th March 2008 00:22

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Originally Posted by willsy (Post 1952212)
I will get them to check, but as far as im aware theres no oil getting into there. Engine starts (when battery is charged sufficiently) first time every time without any problem

what could the cause be if there is oil getting into the plugs?

Remember that the oil leak doesnt occur atall for the first minute or so of startup, after which time it builds up quickly to approx 1 drip per 1/2 seconds. Its not just a weap at that rate.

well my mate just had this problem,it was a build up of pressure + rocker cover gasket,it sounds exactly the same problem to be honest,bearing in mind after the 5th/6th time he attempted to start the car it lost compression before he got a chance to fix the actual problem!!


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