Fitting 6x9 speakers..
 

Please no "6x9's are shit bla bla"

They were £20 new from work and are yellow so shh

Anyway I want to fit them tommorow, any advice for a newbie?

I want to run them of the rear speakers and shut rears of so just the front speakers and the 6x9's are running.

This way im going to upgrade the front speakers soon with some new 13's on the cheap from work agian


Any pics or advice appreciated

Dan

Right, as ya say ignroing they are the work of the devil lol;

Measure your parcel shelf, go down to homebase, get some 10-14mm MDF for about 10 quid thats the right size.

Get it home, get out your parcel shelf. Draw around this onto the mdf with a pencil. Cut out around this line, but about 5mm outside of the line, with a jigsaw.

Now the hard bit, a hell of a lot of sanding. Use an electric sander and take your time getting the side nearest to the back of the car at the right chamfer for the boot.

Then cut out holes wide enough for the speakers. Also make two small plates of mdf again with the holes but this time so that they can be screwed into this plate. They will then sit in the cut out hole in the main shelf by attaching the plates to the underside of the shelf with a strong wood glue or some screws or both. Put some kind of strong materil over these holes from the top, eg thin mesh. Screw some large screws into the far sides of the shelf, where the hangers are. Wrap these in black insulation tape until they are big enough to slide into the slots.

get some felt from a diy store and glue it on, staple it tight around the bottom. Obviously it will go tight over the holes for the speakers. So it will look like a normal shelf and you wont get broken into or look gay lol, and your not gonna have to pay 60 quid plus for a 'stealth shelf'. Ive done this myself minus the 6X9 bit, and it looks much better, allows me to have a decent sub box in the boot and doesnt shake and make gay noises



Alternatively screw em into the std shelf, but they will sound like someones hitting a baking tray with a wet flannel and they will be in plain view.




Electronics wise, id reccomend getting a few metres of decent speaker cable and connecting these to the HU, then taking them down the car and into the 6by9s as the std rear cables are thin and shite.

I had some 6by9s that came with the westy and bought a few metres of cable off www.caraudiodirect/com, it was the CAD silver stuff for £1 a metre, just until i got a sub.

Get an mdf stealth shelf premade and clothed for about 60-80 quid, might find one cheaper on ebay. I spent the extra money as the shelf is a similar design to the standard shelf, theives aren't that thick!!! ..the bass response from the shelf is great.

I run kenwood 7x10's on my shelf with heavy wattage as I think the mid bass is tremendous and adds real definition to the subs thuds.

Did i mention my shelf has 6x9 holes allready :oops:

more and more are being sold with 5.1 these days, and many are ditching hifi's and running with dvd players with 5.1 - most cd's dont play surround either (SACD), just music that goes to front and rear dvd speakers if the option is chosen. sounds great with echo!

People want good systems at home because the average room is good accoustically and home is the common place to relax, driving these days is strenuous to say the least and cars have sh*te musical properties, road and engine noise is also a burden - 7x10's give clear accurate bass and serious volume, bass is lost to high frequencies when driving so why spend extra money on decent fronts aiming for superb SQ - save that for home!

Good 6x9's or 7x10's on a decent amp can give you all you want whilst driving in a car, use some decent 2-way speakers in the front off a small amp cut off under 80-150hz or so to add a bit of ambience! - good rear shelf speakers are ideal for those wanting a stealth system too, expensive door builds are asking to be taxed!!!

Personal preference, it might be certain tones he believes play better with speakers installed in different materials. Like I say you can have the best sounding system on the market, its all lost on a car. Might aswell stage a concert in a generator room.

Thats because 6x9's are designed to fit on thin shelves, they are space savers, recording studios with dearth space may consider them.

They have space enough not to use car speakers.

but an expensive 6x9 sounds as good as a mid priced oval speaker, and they can handle larger wattages that smaller speakers can't.

doesn't really make a difference once the sound is reaching silly wattage and like many say a passenger makes the sound mono. Rear speakers are head height front fire at feet.

Not all concerts, some experiment with sound at the back and larger acts have speakers in the middle of the arena, and you'll find Stringfellows have a more expensive pa system than The Arctic monkeys - one is all around!!!

I've heard many big bass installs and comps just can't compete with the bass, they are there for when the competitors turn the bass down on the graphics etc and listen to their Quo.

So are you gonna offer someone out over it? I know as much as you.

whats so wrong giving an opionion on the other options? are you gonna lower your standards now to that of the SSC scum when they posted a pic of a woman being raped to piss my gf off?

Those who don't have shelf speakers on mdf in my estimation are sheep and know nothing about installs. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Why lock topics, give bad rep and ban members if they don't agree with you?

Its amazing just how many saxo owners have purchased and or owned Lexus Lights or 6x9's at some stage, most be some other reason than a certain style guru has branded them undesirable!!!

I remember when 6 spokes were next on the hit list after 3 spokes!

Don't be a sheep my impressionable/malleable Saxo owning friends!!!!!!!

I have been into car audio too for 12 years and listened to all kinds of set ups and had all kinds of systems, big and small. I don't just do the sq scene. I'm big on accurate bass in the car so sometimes sq comes a second best. I save the HQ for home.

mines as a little as £400 and it goes loud and clear, gives me the bass I need with space left. The 7x10's really give me a good bass fill. Its the most accurate bass install I've ever heard!!!!!

But we aren't on about poor products here or poor installation or breaking the bank. Just that 6x9's etc can be handy and can work.

Its sounds fine, my bass demands wouldn't suit high power front speakers. Why put 100's of watts into front speakers to crackle in the doors firing at legs and being blocked by a passenger?

Most cars come with a quad system standard that works well for casual listeners, so if I and many others didn't have a sub, 6x9's/7x10's and decent fronts would be ideal. Never make the mistake of underestimating the bass response of mdf. I actually hear the music in the material the speakers are mounted in, so I'm very critical of loud front installs.

Not really advice, just stating how we have our systems and ways around problems that may arise running rear speakers.

Well I've stated why my 7x10's are good for me, I'm not an idiot I like how the rear speakers provide good midbass and save boot space on the sub. Speakers should be mounted in quality wood I've heard so many decent systems ruined by door speakers not cutting the mustard at high volumes, for low volumes great! thats why I want some fronts on a small amp to give me a touch more mid range as the stealth shelf muffles the 7x10's at low volume. - theives eh?

Fancy comps in door builds are good for stealth either - I could go on.

How the f*ck can fronts balance a good midbass with hard hitting subs?

Wonder how many concert and studio speakers are mounted in metal and plastic?

now that would be idiotic!!!!!

Please read my post... Im fitting them to the parcel shelf

But running them of my back speakers


No wonder you were banned from ssc 3 times for talking about 7x10's I didnt even mention them :wink:

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Well i think stealth shelves are a proper rip off when if you take your time you can make one just as good yourself for a fraction of the price. Impresses people too

easiest way is take the rear door cards out disconnect the speaker attach new speaker wire to the existing wire run into the boot then put the card back on, then wire up the speakers to the new wires. 30min job if that

I was banned because people like you don't read properly.

Exaclly what I was looking for!

Thank you :wink:

Rep your way

Ben_saxo I would give you some too, but you have had some "luvin" of me recently when it lets me I will

I said nothing to do with 7x10's ....

But will not use the ful potential of the speakers. The std cabling is like 100000AWG lol

no probs mate anything else just ask.

I made mine for an escort, cost about £25 in total not to mention having to borrow jig saw, stapler etc. Would have been more for the trick bits steaths come with. Like the chicken wire type material that stops the cloth sagging into the cones. Stealth shelfs have the wells that convince suspect passers by thats its a standard jobby.

I never said you did:oops:

just promoting our case for rear speakers!!!!!

speaker wire is speaker wire unless you are going to be spending thousands and running the best money can buy equipment then the standard cable to run a set of crappy shelf speakers (which were only £20 and yellow although i dont know what the colour has to do with it) then chopping the loom up taking half the car apart is pointless.

Guy at work has new fronts and 6x9's and does not have a problem

anything is better than the 4 blown speakers I have now


jeese I knew this would turn into a case for decent rear and front speakers

I want 6x9s as they match the car, dont care really so leave it!!! :n:


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No worries dan but i would invest in some decent cabling

They gave me some with the speakers...

cable is cable

all sounds the same to me

read my post above dan. will explain cabling briefly, if i wasnt off to work i would dig out some info. maybe tomorrow