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stevenet15 18th October 2007 22:04

Torsion Bar Lowering Guide
 
i know how u bitches love my guides so i have decided to make a torsion bar lowering guide, i will be making step by step animations showing u clearly exactly what to do. it wont be finished for a few weeks but here is a sneeky peek of a bit i have made so far:



Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenet15 (Post 1942027)
these guides are good:

http://www.badgermotorsport.co.uk/lowering.htm

http://www.suzukituning.com/PSA/Suspension/Lowering.htm

and here is some info from me:

firstly take the shocks off so that the suspension arms dont have any pull on them apart from there own weight, then do measurements (measure from behind the hub to the bottom of the car & note measurments)

Then undo the ARB plate bolts so u can rotate the ARB out the way, next u need to remove all the torx bolts and offcenetered washers from both ends of both torsion bars

now get some WD40 and cokacola and plater it around the ends of the torsion bars and splines this will help eat into the rust and help free it off

then you can either try slide hammering the torsion bar out if its still seised in you can try the bolt and socket method as shown in the pic below (make sure that the bolt has at least 10-15mm in the torsion bar before pulling out or u will rip the threads)

socket and bolt method


if its still not budging then you can get a mate to hit the other side of the torsion bar with a 7lb lump hammer and a bar with you slide hammer or socket and bolt the other side, the pressure of both forces against the torsion bar normally frees it up

lump hammer and bar:


if its still not budging then u can use a blow torch to heat the ends around the torsion bar up as the metal expands it normally healts to break the seal of the rust and help free it up

also sometimes if u put a jack under the arm ur trying to remove the torsion bar from and jsut tkae it up a few mm it helps take a little weight off the torsion bar which can help it have less stress to come out. u can keep applying WD40/coke mixture throughout the different stages to try help it and just have to keep trying, they will give way eventually

once done and out measure and use a jack to hold the arm at the new height u want and then pop the torsion bar back in, and fit everything back on, do some for both sides, job done

here is also a animated pic i made showing torsion bars


Here are some reference pics showing you the bolt and socket method, there not pics of it being done on a saxo but its showing the identicle procedure of using the socket and bolt metod to remove a torsion bar












jazzsingh51 18th October 2007 22:18

looks good steve - is this guide going to be finished by saturday? - because im doing mine then!!!

edit - just seen your post in my torsion bar thread and that this wont be done for a few weeks!!! - Ive got a few guides to work from - so should be alright

Wayne 18th October 2007 22:22

looks good so far can't wait to see all the step by step's:)

Toad 19th October 2007 08:13

Very good of you. It would be a nice sticky to have.

Steve 19th October 2007 09:22

should be good, used heat to get mine out! bolts were seized so chizled them out! some trouble shooting guide would be good aswel alongside it

Predator_R32 19th October 2007 11:05

good stuff steve, it will be the 3rd one on the entire net and with them animations it will easily top the others :y:

The_Notorious_C_A_T 22nd October 2007 12:39

Thats a good idea mate.

Animations are always good!

Mr_suv 22nd October 2007 21:19

u will be the ultimate king mofo then i love u !!!!!

SaxoKez 22nd October 2007 21:20

ace, animations look gd

dannyc 17th November 2007 17:02

any update!?

bullit 17th November 2007 17:12

i may have to rep you big man, top stuff

chriswindy 20th December 2007 14:56

anymore steps steve?

Modified 20th December 2007 15:15

looks good makes me feel even better for u to do mine soon :) lol

stevenet15 20th December 2007 18:18

i havent had time to do anymore on this guide yet but i will do as soon as i have time and update the pics

TU-Tuning 27th March 2008 13:50

Any update on this mate? Been getting quite high quotes and wanna try it myself

johnnyg_vts 27th March 2008 13:51

looks great, cant wait to see the finished article.

stirlinlee 4th April 2008 15:54

that guide is is lookin well good sir cheers

Cainevtr 31st May 2008 13:57

This looks like its going to come in handy! anyone got and real car pics of it being done?

thanks

Cainevtr 31st May 2008 14:11

My bad, i found the links now!

stevenet15 3rd June 2008 16:05

update added some reference pics in the first post

dan1800 3rd June 2008 16:15

always handy, people could make a fortune out of this, but iv heard they can be really awkward?!

Reid 3rd June 2008 18:32

not even a trace of wd 40
Job job mate a mite try that soket method if I need to lower another bar

Sparco_Tom 3rd June 2008 23:27

bloody good guide steve did mine last week finally. Thinking about raising the whole car back up now though

Y32CPB 13th June 2008 23:55

Great guide seen other ones on th internet but this one makes it seem less of a daunting task haha! good one mate!

AlexR 14th June 2008 08:40

Is that a clio or R5? I was always intrigued by their system of torsion bars inside beam, anti roll bar outside, certainly makes lowering a lot easier!

Elliott 14th June 2008 10:37

someone get it stickied!

Ash-VTR 31st July 2008 22:33

any more news on the guide?

Mint-VTR 23rd November 2008 01:37

as above

TU-Tuning 23rd November 2008 01:46

the bit in quotes is the guide lads, thats all you need. It makes a lot more sense if you read it and then jack your car up and have a good look at the setup

scotty1990saxo 24th November 2008 19:00

nice guide

Jtizzle 29th November 2008 11:51

looks gud

stevenet15 14th December 2008 20:14

I have shut my dedicated server down today so i have had to transfer the pics from my first post to a photobucket account so that everyone still has access to the guides, can someone just confirm to me if they can see the pics in the first post. cheers

dorsetsaxo 14th December 2008 20:18

yep sure can its just perfect cheers bud for the hard work

Rogz 14th December 2008 22:45

i wouldnt dare try this myself tbh. the state of this saxo's under belly is terrible, i think the mud is holding the rust together... ive had the angle grinder out far to much...

Prickle 30th December 2008 11:41

What a great guide :D

The animation rocks! :p

STEBTECH 15th January 2009 13:29

Good work lad, hopefuly gunna do mine this weekend so im gunna follow this guide for sure!

chip11 1st March 2009 20:07

top job man. if only everyone was as helpful!! cheers dude

jam3z 9th March 2009 18:14

brilliant guide mate, just a shame mine is so seized i cant move the bloody thing.

justan1100 19th March 2009 11:14

does the further you pull it determine how low it goes? And do you measure the distance you pull it out to get the amount of lowering you want?

one_nation04 19th March 2009 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by justan1100 (Post 3106969)
does the further you pull it determine how low it goes? And do you measure the distance you pull it out to get the amount of lowering you want?

if your talking about the torsion bars themselves, u need to pull them all the way out, adjust the height, and then slide the bars back in mate


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