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srcnix 1st May 2008 13:11

Please read...
 
This thread is dedicated to everyone who replied to Jul2VTR's thread, a cry for help.

I'd just like to start of by showing my appreciation to the users on this forum that realised Julie has a problem, quite a big one, and didn't make her feel worse than she did when she made the post. Hats off to you guys.

Now onto the stupid tits that thought it a good idea to rip the shit out of her family and her problems when she blatantly was asking for help.

A question for each of you: Were you born stupid?

Are you that insecure about yourself that you have to make someone else feel awful despite the fact that she is very much suffering from Post Natal Depression not to mention possible other problems. She was making a post, a cry for help and you ripped the living shit out of her.

To the person who posted a bottle of Cyanide, were you dropped on your head as a child? You do realise that when you're depressed, severely depressed, you think illogically about things and don't think of the consequences of any actions you may take. You could have easily pushed the poor lady into doing something I believe no one would want her to do.

Now onto the insensitive girls that decided to cause even more grief for her. If you know anything about yourselfs, being female, you'd realise that what you said was very insensitive. But that's not the half of it, if you had any idea what severe depression does to you, you would also know that what you said can rip the living shit out of you if suffering from depression and anxiety. Why knock someone down when they're already down? She asked for help from mothers that have children and have been through similar problems, not from 18 year old, immature girls who think they have the right to give opinions while they haven't actually been through half of what she is going through.

For the blokes, grow up and get some life experience you sick individuals. You're pathetic and need to realise others peoples feelings, even if it is a forum, it hurts.

The last thing I want to say. How good is your conscious? How would you feel if a couple of weeks in the future a thread was posted giving some very awful news that Julie was no longer with us. Well let me tell you something, all of you idiots would have been part of the reason, how do you feel about that? Could you live with yourself? Because the first thing I would do is go to the press, give all of your names (And trust me, I could find them) and detail everything you said. I'd have no shame in doing so because with the stuff you said, you had no shame either. Not to mention this forum would go down hill, so maybe the forum moderators need to think about punishing those that participated in the thread in an awful manner.

That's all.

saxodan 1st May 2008 13:13

patronising

djawesome123 1st May 2008 13:14

very. lbd ftw no need for this as were all grown ups on here

Peejous 1st May 2008 13:15

I didnt post anything, im confused:
Does this make me bad for not posting, or good for not posting or both :panic:

Ruddy 1st May 2008 13:15

*Awaits a picture of saxodan "im so emo i shit razorblades"*

djawesome123 1st May 2008 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peejous (Post 2100730)
I didnt post anything, im confused:
Does this make me bad for not posting, or good for not posting or both :panic:

Must have been a first:panic:

betty02 1st May 2008 13:16

See why the thread was made, but don't think it had to be made as we all know were this will leed tbh, and the thread wont last longer then 2 minutes, i tried to help her and alot of girld had to be cruel to be kind and thats whay happened, and she was happy about that! So feal the comments about the girls were abit strong and un-called for, you can't have people not taking notice when someone says they wish they never had there kid, fair enough she's suffering and will regret saying that when things get sorted, and fingers crossed they do!

But tbh think the thread is pointless!

Barry123 1st May 2008 13:17

no offence but if you've been through depression or dealing with it... why the hell are you off to amsterdam on drug binge?

Ruddy 1st May 2008 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer (Post 2100743)
no offence but if you've through depression or dealing with it... why the hell are you off to amsterdam on drug binge?

"im not being funny" = "I am"

Clouds_mate 1st May 2008 13:19

The thread wasnt reported by anyone. If people have a problem with what has been posted on the boards it should be reported straight away and a mod will pick it up.

Several times Julie (i think her name) said 'just forget it' but she still carried on talking to a selected few about the situation, hence why it was kept open.

When the post diverted to direct personal attacks i closed the thread.

The situation shes in and posting about it on a car forum where 95% of the members are male the situation was never going to be handled correctly. With the symptoms she has she should see a doctor and not expect any serious help from people that clearly know nothing about it.

'mmmkay?

craig180 1st May 2008 13:20

Wish I'd seen the thread tbh. I know what it's like for mothers suffering PND.

matt_vtr_15 1st May 2008 13:20

thats why i didnt post tbh i didnt know anything on the background and couldnt be constructive to the girl so i had nothing much to say but i stopped looking at the thread because it was as the post says above people trying to rip the shit of a girl who was in a vulbnerable position for some people who wanted to be e-bullies tbh

in a post which is so serious pisstaking is not needed

im with you dude!!!

scottyvts 1st May 2008 13:23

i know some people on hear were a bit harsh yeaterday, but you cant really have a go at people, becasue if she didnt want peoples opinions on the suject then mabey its not a very good idear to post her problam on a public forums. *mmature girls who think they have the right to give opinions while they haven't actually been through half of what she is going through.*

djawesome123 1st May 2008 13:24

I can see this turning into exactly the same type of thread tbh I have to agree with Leckie on this one because he is absolutely correct when he says "posting about it on a car forum where 95% of the members are male the situation was never going to be handled correctly"

Clouds_mate 1st May 2008 13:25

No body was 'ripping the shit' outa her. They were giving there opinions, but not knowing in firstperson what its like they may have seemed abit unreasonable. But this comes down to the OP making a thread about it on an open forum. You expect comments that might not help.

Like i said above. if they is something going on within the forum that you dont think is suitable report it.

Barry123 1st May 2008 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180 (Post 2100758)
Wish I'd seen the thread tbh. I know what it's like for mothers suffering PND.

same... my mother had it, went to the doctors they told her that couldn't do anything... she went off and tried to put herself under a bus...

might explain why I'm a twat I dunno.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruddy (Post 2100748)
"im not being funny" = "I am"

Your avatar actually makes me cringe.:sad:

craig180 1st May 2008 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer (Post 2100786)
same... my mother had it, went to the doctors they told her that couldn't do anything... she went off and tried to put herself under a bus...

might explain why I'm a twat I dunno.

There is no genuine reason as to why you're a twat tbh :p

Barry123 1st May 2008 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180 (Post 2100791)
There is no genuine reason as to why you're a twat tbh :p

I'm trying to make excuses for myself but there isn't any... I was just born a twat :cool:

srcnix 1st May 2008 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by djawesome123 (Post 2100725)
very. lbd ftw no need for this as were all grown ups on here

Grown ups? Really? doesn't seem that way in the slightest. Please note I am referring to only those that I've been talking about in the initial post of this tread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by betty02 (Post 2100738)
See why the thread was made, but don't think it had to be made as we all know were this will leed tbh, and the thread wont last longer then 2 minutes, i tried to help her and alot of girld had to be cruel to be kind and thats whay happened, and she was happy about that! So feal the comments about the girls were abit strong and un-called for, you can't have people not taking notice when someone says they wish they never had there kid, fair enough she's suffering and will regret saying that when things get sorted, and fingers crossed they do!

But tbh think the thread is pointless!

Strong yes, un-called for, no. Sorry Betty, you're a good person from what I have read on this forum but unless you've been through depression you wouldn't understand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer (Post 2100743)
no offence but if you've been through depression or dealing with it... why the hell are you off to amsterdam on drug binge?

Not a drug binge, more of a celebration. I haven't touched drugs in a long time and yes, I may have a smoke here and there, but it's casual, not a binge. And I've been through it, not dealing with it currently -- thank god because it's not pleasant to go through. However, I understand your points but understand this, I'm not going to get fucked on skunk, I'm going to relax and get away from everything. More importantly for Fee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leckie (Post 2100754)
The thread wasnt reported by anyone. If people have a problem with what has been posted on the boards it should be reported straight away and a mod will pick it up.

Several times Julie (i think her name) said 'just forget it' but she still carried on talking to a selected few about the situation, hence why it was kept open.

When the post diverted to direct personal attacks i closed the thread.

The situation shes in and posting about it on a car forum where 95% of the members are male the situation was never going to be handled correctly. With the symptoms she has she should see a doctor and not expect any serious help from people that clearly know nothing about it.

'mmmkay?

I and I am sure Julie appreciate the fact that you closed the thread. IF you read her posts she has seen a doctor, and if you asked for more information on the outcome you'd have found out that there is more to it that actually happened which has made her feel worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt_vtr_1 (Post 2100760)
thats why i didnt post tbh i didnt know anything on the background and couldnt be constructive to the girl so i had nothing much to say but i stopped looking at the thread because it was as the post says above people trying to rip the shit of a girl who was in a vulbnerable position for some people who wanted to be e-bullies tbh

in a post which is so serious pisstaking is not needed

im with you dude!!!

Appreciated.

Gabbastard 1st May 2008 13:30

Can you really expect any more from an internet forum? The last thing Id do for depression is post about it ffs.

atmvts 1st May 2008 13:33

its a car forum for fcuk sake...way to deep and way to serious!!

srcnix 1st May 2008 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyvts (Post 2100781)
i know some people on hear were a bit harsh yeaterday, but you cant really have a go at people, becasue if she didnt want peoples opinions on the suject then mabey its not a very good idear to post her problam on a public forums. *mmature girls who think they have the right to give opinions while they haven't actually been through half of what she is going through.*

She asked for opinions from mothers. This may be the only forum she is on and wanted some help from mothers not people with an opinion on the matter at hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djawesome123 (Post 2100782)
I can see this turning into exactly the same type of thread tbh I have to agree with Leckie on this one because he is absolutely correct when he says "posting about it on a car forum where 95% of the members are male the situation was never going to be handled correctly"

It can, it might, but I'm in a state where I'm happy to give as much as I get however, it's not needed but people need to realise what they have said. Regarding being on a forum, like Julie stated, she wanted opinions from mothers that have been through the same thing. If a mother who went through the same thing had a bad opinion for her, things would have been different, I assure you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leckie (Post 2100784)
No body was 'ripping the shit' outa her. They were giving there opinions, but not knowing in firstperson what its like they may have seemed abit unreasonable. But this comes down to the OP making a thread about it on an open forum. You expect comments that might not help.

Like i said above. if they is something going on within the forum that you dont think is suitable report it.

Leckie, they were. Like it or not, but they were.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer (Post 2100786)
same... my mother had it, went to the doctors they told her that couldn't do anything... she went off and tried to put herself under a bus...

might explain why I'm a twat I dunno.


Your avatar actually makes me cringe.:sad:

So just maybe you understand. Like I said above to Betty, you're a good person too. I've read your posts, you've given me lots of advice on many situations, whether I liked it or not, but none of those posts were when I was in a state of depression, at least not half as bad as she is at the moment.

Clouds_mate 1st May 2008 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by srcnix (Post 2100797)

I and I am sure Julie appreciate the fact that you closed the thread. IF you read her posts she has seen a doctor, and if you asked for more information on the outcome you'd have found out that there is more to it that actually happened which has made her feel worse.



People did ask why doesnt so go back, but she didnt go into any more detail, so it WAS asked.

How are people to know they were more to the story then what was posted.

Also, like i saw in the thread, if the doctors cant really help, who are trained professionals how are a bunch of people from internet, mainly male, mainly under 20 and living at home with there parents with not so much 'life skills' going to provide help over a doctor.

I do understand what people can say could of picked her up and made her a bit happier but its not going to solve the problem is it. Look to it as a temp fix.

scottyvts 1st May 2008 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbastard (Post 2100806)
Can you really expect any more from an internet forum? The last thing Id do for depression is post about it ffs.

you are spot on, she made this thread for peoples opinions and thats what she got. do u think your makeing the situation any beter from makeing anouth thread just to have a go. isnt there lines she can ring for help insted of useing a car fourm, were all the help isnt going to be posative???

atmvts 1st May 2008 13:36

he just wants attention.

FACT

srcnix 1st May 2008 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbastard (Post 2100806)
Can you really expect any more from an internet forum? The last thing Id do for depression is post about it ffs.

Because she wanted information, help, advice. Not people adding to her problems. She is trying to fix things, that's the hardest step to make when you're depressed and people on here have just made it more difficult.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leckie (Post 2100821)
People did ask why doesnt so go back, but she didnt go into any more detail, so it WAS asked.

How are people to know they were more to the story then what was posted.

Also, like i saw in the thread, if the doctors cant really help, who are trained professionals how are a bunch of people from internet, mainly male, mainly under 20 and living at home with there parents with not so much 'life skills' going to provide help over a doctor.

I do understand what people can say could of picked her up and made her a bit happier but its not going to solve the problem is it. Look to it as a temp fix.

Obviously I can't see the thread anymore so I can't check but I swear to god she explained what the doctor said to her.

Doctors are professionals but they cause problems as well. I went through hell trying to find a doctor that could help me, luckily I found one. IIRC it was 5 doctors and two phycologists.

JC-Furio 1st May 2008 13:36

Didn't get to read the thread, take it it's been deleted?

Barry123 1st May 2008 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by srcnix (Post 2100797)
Not a drug binge, more of a celebration. I haven't touched drugs in a long time and yes, I may have a smoke here and there, but it's casual, not a binge. And I've been through it, not dealing with it currently -- thank god because it's not pleasant to go through. However, I understand your points but understand this, I'm not going to get fucked on skunk, I'm going to relax and get away from everything. More importantly for Fee.

Again, not being funny but we know that stuff is linked to phychosis and the rest of it. if you're particularly sensitive to depression... 'thank god its not pleasant to go through'... then why gamble with smoking it at all?

that or i sense emoness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbastard (Post 2100806)
Can you really expect any more from an internet forum? The last thing Id do for depression is post about it ffs.

Exactly, I'm not going to pour my life story on to an internet forum... because for a start it's boring, it serves no relevance to anyone reading it and I can guarantee that a lot will have some serious and I mean serious problems that they've either had to deal with or are dealing with... why bring it for them to dig up their past.

There's a lot of dark horses on here I'd bet my arse on it.

srcnix 1st May 2008 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyvts (Post 2100831)
you are spot on, she made this thread for peoples opinions and thats what she got. do u think your makeing the situation any beter from makeing anouth thread just to have a go. isnt there lines she can ring for help insted of useing a car fourm, were all the help isnt going to be posative???

Yes there are numbers to call, but not everyone knows about them. I didn't. It's not until the situation has improved that you find out about them and even if you know about them, in that sort of situation where your mind is illogical, they're lost in your mind.

All I have said is how I feel about the situation. I've said nothing out of line and nothing that will upset Julie, that I know off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by atmvts (Post 2100837)
he just wants attention.

FACT

I want attention? Why do I need attention of a forum? I like this forum and particular users on here. I'm working for a company that gives me a lot of credit, if I wanted attention I'd turn around, talk to Annabel behind me and tell her I've completed a project 6 hours ahead of schedule earning the company over 30% more than they were expecting.

srcnix 1st May 2008 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer (Post 2100845)
Again, not being funny but we know that stuff is linked to phychosis and the rest of it. if you're particularly sensitive to depression... 'thank god its not pleasant to go through'... then why gamble with smoking it at all?

that or i sense emoness.



Exactly, I'm not going to pour my life story on to an internet forum... because for a start it's boring, it serves no relevance to anyone reading it and I can guarantee that a lot will have some serious and I mean serious problems that they've either had to deal with or are dealing with... why bring it for them to dig up their past.

There's a lot of dark horses on here I'd bet my arse on it.

True, somewhat true and I have no answer to that other than the fact that I know a couple of doobs do not affect me. When I was depressed I was using cannabis to cover up my issues.

More importantly, this isn't about me, it's about Julie.

Onto your second paragraph. Ad, mate, understand this, any help, especially from people you've been talking to who don't know you helps. It really does.

ShaneVtr 1st May 2008 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer (Post 2100845)
There's a lot of dark horses on here I'd bet my arse on it.

:y:

Id rather keep my personal problems to myself, [except my thread on dodgey dreams]. Iv suffered depression in the past, but i feel its better to put stuff like that behind you.

laura_g 1st May 2008 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by atmvts (Post 2100837)
he just wants attention.

FACT

erm your a twat

srcnix 1st May 2008 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneVtr (Post 2101180)
:y:

Id rather keep my personal problems to myself, [except my thread on dodgey dreams]. Iv suffered depression in the past, but i feel its better to put stuff like that behind you.

First you have to get through it and (while I am not pointing this at you at all) there are different forms and severenesses of depression, until you've hit the high end of it and got through it, you can't put it behind you.

ShaneVtr 1st May 2008 16:13

Does planning to put the sax under the back of a artic lorry sound severe?


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