my saxo 1.1. where can i find tuning parts for it without changin the engine?
 

i want to make my 1.1 quickish without changin the engine where can i find parts and what parts shall i get? can some1 tell me please?

How quick is "quickish" and how much money do you have to spare.

Is it an SPI or MPI engine?

An SPI engine will take a Solex twin carb from the AX GT/205 1.4 xsi (with some work), a rejetted carb can give some impressive power gains.

An MPI can be turbocharged, Sophia_Bush on here has done one and also sells basic kits

Other than that theres not alot worth doing on a 1.1, apart from exhaust system and induction kit

But on a serious note, search on here and on ebay. Imo, not worth doing an awful lot to 1.1. Just the small mods like induction kit and exhaust for noise.

turbo it, pm sophia about it.

i dont want to do alot with it i mean sorta just make it a quick 1.1, i was thinkin induction kit new exaust remap then after tht im not sure? and can you turbo a 1.1 without blowing it up? and im not sure what engine it is just a 1.1i sx saxo? and sorry lol but whos sophia?

Just looked at your progress thread mate, yours is a single point injection (SPI). I know the MPI engine can be turbo'd but im not too sure about the SPI.

Sophia is a member on here - Sophia_Bush

Search on ebay, them electric supercharger kits....pause...NOTTT
As said above tbh! But if you don't want to be spendin that amount of money could just save for a car with a bigger engine?

yea im into stickin the peugeot 106 gti engin in my pug 205

If you want genuine performance then you've got a long way to go...

Currently I'm in the process of upgrading everything that will actually make a difference, the cam on the 1.1 has a lot to give!

Also consider updating the inlet manifold & throttle body as they're quite restrictive on the 1.1.

Never going to be a quick car really but completely strip it and sort breathing mods like above then maybe turbo and go a bit mental :)

yea i was thinkin maybe a vtr throttle body and strip it of back seats and stuff where can i find new uprated cams tht will make a difference and how much will they cost?

Don't bother with just the throttle body- go the whole hog and get the inlet manifold too.

Back seats won't weigh that much... in my car (206) they were around 20kg-ish.

I'm actually having bespoke cams made for me, but if they work out well then there will be plenty available for the TU1 1.1 PSA engine (which is what you have). The cam basically helps out with top-end and mid-range power, which is crucial to the 8v TU engine as it runs out of puff quite easily.

Will keep you posted, just need a basic 1.1 cam to send away to the tuning company and I will get the reprofiled one in around a week or so.

unless you got 1.5k spare and can do most of the work yourself don't turbo even a basic setup all done will cost that much and again thats if you do the work yourself.

Basic mods since yours is a spi manifold exhaust and diy induction nothing else. MPi are defo more responsive going by what my new one is like

I really can't see the point in throwing money at a 1.1 Saxo engine.

Surely a "tuned" and turbo'd 1.1 Saxo will cost more to insure than a VTS?

in my case no lol all mods declared like for like replacement £350 f/c get in for that lol

cheers every1 im not into putting tht much money into it right now but i want to keep it for a while so eventually maybe, and evolution can you give a price on what it costs ya to get a new cam? and im well up for doin all the work myself lol cheers every1.

Will let you know as soon as all the work is done to my car... getting the engine this week and ripping it apart this week too, then we'll go from there!

kl cheers

Engine was delivered today... cam's being reprofiled this week. Don't know how much they'd be retail as my car is the development car for all head and cam work, but it wouldn't be thousands...

Also, consider an induction kit from this company that I'm getting my work done by... 7bhp increase as proven on a rolling road.

What kind of gains you expecting from the cam?

Whats the company mate and induction kit costs?

Company is called GSR Engineering. Visit the forum www.performance206.com in about two weeks and you'll have an idea of what's going on with the engine.

Cam I'd say minimum of 8bhp, max of 15bhp. It's impossible to tell until we actually get one reprofiled, but the cam has quite a bit to give- especially on the PSA 8v engines.

Induction kit is around the £150 mark :S seems a lot but unlike all the shit like K&N (I used to have a K&N 57i) it actually works. We did 4 separate tests of induction on the 206 when we ran it... first time was the standard airbox, car was pumping out 62bhp as it was. With the K&N 57i it dropped to 58bhp (quoted factory standard), with the Pipercross from a Fiat Punto 1.2 16v (had one lying around) it was 61bhp... and then with the GSR kit it was 69bhp. I also had mine remapped that day, got a nice round 74bhp.

I'll keep you posted on here regarding what we find. The head looks to be pretty solid anyway, very good for standard. The PSA induction and cams appear to be the weak spots on the TU 8v engines.

are you going to be putting bigger valves in the engine or thinking of manufacture of forged pistons&rods etc?

Lol I don't think so, as that's where it starts getting stupidly expensive and on a 1.1 it is near pointless. I'm considering lighter pistons but tbh, the 1.1 revs up nice and quickly anyway.

Stupid to ask but the lighter pistons will they be suitable for a turbo and not melt?

I shall leave you now and await results.:y:

Yup, best way :)

or just buy my whole turbo kit

You selling up? Or upgrading :P

Selling up tom I don't have the time these days as work is pretty much top priority right now.

Just going to build a nice useable n/a spec engine and use that as it is on weekends as I barely go for random drives anymore lol!

could you please keep us updated on prices of the cam reprofile and other things please im quite interested in this and i'll look on tht thread u sent to see how ur engine is goin.
cheers

Will do... I bought a new inlet manifold & throttle body just this morning so will let you know what sort of gains I get from that + the injectors and the re-remap to tie it all together.

Red Dot got my engine on Friday and will start poking about with it on Monday!

sophia what sort of bhp was ur 1.1 pushing then? and do u or any one know if an east coast is spi or mpi?

Any news on the cams? etc matey?

i just got a new powerflow exaust system from downpipe back on my 1.1 pug 205 does any1 know how much power increase tht gives me

She goes in Saturday :y: not heard anything about the reprofiled cam yet, which is worrying :S but I'll let you know.

Will be installing all the VTR parts no matter what, so God knows what gains I'll see where. It's £120-worth of stuff (induction kit @ £100 and VTR inlet/TB/injectors @ £20) so will be interesting to see if there's any gain whatsoever.

Should be a fully ported and flowed head in the garage for me on Saturday too :A:

nice work keep us updated

*sigh*

Got there yesterday, no head, no cam, engine hadn't even been unwrapped... so I took it all apart myself and gave the head to a specialist to see what happens.

Injectors proved worthy though... 78bhp.

Asswipes, so 78bhp with the 7bhp induction etc? What power did the injectors give?

whats the injectors?

Standard = 62bhp (rolling road tested)
Induction kit = 69bhp
Remap = 74bhp
Injectors + map tweaked to accommodate (do not just pop the injectors in, your car overfuels like a bitch and goes into limp home mode!!) = 78bhp

To come...

Cam = 8-15bhp
Ported + flowed head = 2-10bhp
Exhaust system = ?